#fandom comparisons

[freedfromthegalactichivemind]

I just want to take a moment to wonder / baffle at how different fandoms can be. It seems like some things are constant between all fandoms - an abundance of smutfic and art, self-insert and OC character-creation fun, people inserting characters into popular memes, people making the wildest aus (Let's fanart them as werewolves!" and the like). However, there are just such interesting differences. In Spop fandom, I will never, NEVER get over how much visceral HATRED exists for Hordak on one "side" of the fandom and how much of the same kind of hatred exists for Catra on another "side" of the fandom. Additionally, discourse over Glimmer and etc. It seems like all the people in this fandom (who haven't just said hang it all to just make cute fanart and funny comics) talk about are WAR CRIMES and "who deserves redemption more?" in a show that is clearly about restoration and kindness. Horde Prime's destroying planets aside, I can count the canonical deaths in this series ON ONE HAND. And everyone's upset at all of the war crimes committed in a largely non-lethal local-to-the-main-setting-planet war on this... almost utopian planet where we'd all probably like to live. Meanwhile, over in Trigun fandom... The body count is in the literal millions and not in passing mentions of genocide Jell-O at dinner, but in triumphant arms to the sky as a burning fleet of spaceships incinerate in the sky in a deliberate attempt at a genocide (not as a side-effect of ruling). Many on-screen deaths of characters you get to KNOW. There is this huge complex moral dilemma centered around the survival-needs of a population that depends upon sentient beings that are both dependent upon them and overused and abused by them. There's another huge complex moral dilemma revolving around the justification of lethal force vs. the prices of a life of chosen, ardent pacifism. It's not a Y-7 series by any means and the manga / comics version of it gets really super dark (yet somehow Trigun Stampede made the Tesla-arc even darker, bravo, I'm gonna be sick). And yet the villains - from the mini-boss assassin characters to the ur-villain who LITERALLY WANTS TO DESTROY ALL OF HUMANITY and also wishes to manipulate his hero-brother to his side through severe traumatizing emotional torture... it's like... there are loads of people in this fandom who are "Oh, Millions Knives is my favorite character!" and it doesn't seem like anyone bats an eyelash. There are probably more fandom essays exploring Knives' side of things and why he feels the way he does and how his character-arc makes sense than even people in any way actively against him. Yes, most people in this fandom "side with Vash" (as do I), but it's like... we understand the villain here, or try to, and here's a fandom where people find sympathy for and "humanity" in the blatantly cruel person who on-screen slaughters swaths of people in some of the most gruesome ways possible. It's like, in this fandom, if someone's a Knives-fan, or a Legato-fan, or a Midvalley-fan, or even those of us who love the greatest villain of all, he who shines in the darkness, BRILLIANT DYNAMITES NEON!!! (oh, my two-episode wonder, missed you in Stampede oh so much, my sparkler-smoking baby...) it's like... no one cares? It's like "Yeah, they're great characters, aren't they?" It's just so... different. In the non-fatal sparkly princess show, everyone's scrutinizing everyone else for liking characters who do (largely non-lethal) WAR CRIMES! and then the mature-anime/manga fandom I am in where there's this whole extinction of humanity and the uses of their adjacent created-resource-species at stake everyone's like... chill. And enjoying the villains - and different ones, at that, is NORMAL.

#spop #she-ra #trigun #trigun maximum #trigun stampede #fandom comparisons #why is the innocent sweet sparkly cartoon the one with the contentious fandom? #and the one with literal whole comic panels covered in blood is the one where everyone's generally chill? #I honestly don't think I've ever seen a bad take on knives that made me mad #I'm a vash-stan but it doesn't mean I hate his brother #I mean he doesn't not really #I see bad takes on like all of the spop characters all the time #especially my pookie cyborg-clone evil overlord #don't worry hordak you are luvd

[mrs-sherlock-holmes]

My four fave captains 🫡

#fandom comparisons #Elle’s original posts #multifandom #crossover #captain jack sparrow #captain jack harkness #captain Carter #Captain Kirk #pirates of the caribbean #doctor who #marvel #Star Trek #potc #dw #mcu #star trek into darkness #star trek the next generation #Star Trek tng #marvel cinematic universe #captain Peggy Carter #captain Margaret carter #Margaret carter #Peggy Carter #James Kirk tng #James Kirk #james t kirk #Jim Kirk #Jack harkness #Jack sparrow #captain jack

[lost-technology]

The annoying thing with having a sideblog is being able to see someone's blog via the regular / base blog and then finding out they've blocked your sideblog for some reason and you don't know WHY. Or, in some cases, some of those mysterious likes / reblogs / supposed activity going on on your sideblog you can't see because someone blocked your regular for some reason? Anyway, managing sideblogs can be a mess. Also, I am wondering what I've done in Trigun fandom specifically to annoy a person or two. Considering that I found someone tonight via a mutual's reblogging that I was going to reblog because "Oh, how cute!" got me an error-message and I found out that I couldn't put in a reply on my sideblog name because it was faded out and "I don't know them from Adam" as the old saying goes, I'm just left puzzled as to why I got a block. I haven't been fighting with anyone in this fandom. It's not like the last fandom I was involved in very heavily where there was a LOT of fighting. Oh, well, I figure I could have been blocked over the pettiest of things. Maybe I don't ship somebody's ship. Maybe I do ship a ship they don't like or have reblogged art thereof. Maybe they just think my art is fugly. Maybe a friend of theirs doesn't like me for some reason (maybe going back to the fighty other fandom). Maybe it is something as simple as my age pinned up on my blog's welcome message. I make no secret that I'm an old swamp hag and I know that some younger people don't want to interact with anyone over 30 regardless of morality/pleasantness/fandom opinions or whatever and blocking is the easiest way to do it. I don't know, it's just a little aggravating not to *know* because I have this nitpick of wanting to know if I am doing something wrong so I can attempt to adjust my social interaction accordingly. (I think I just might have typed the most neurodiverse sentence ever...) Well, it is at least much better than how things went in the last major fandom I was in - which happened right around pandemic lockdown when everyone was losing their damn minds. The projected insanity lead to people in some branches of the fandom on a pathological need to put up callout posts dissecting people's bad takes on their problematic faves and people screaming at each other that they were "abuse apologists" and people projecting their real life traumas into everything and taking "people enjoy X-villain I don't like" personally. I'm serious about these giant rambling callout posts... It was insane. And it only all died down when people in the fandom learned to liberally use the Block button so they simply did not have to see people who had takes they didn't like on their blorbos and associated ships anymore. All in all, Trigun fans seem to behave better with simply Ghost Blocking For Mysterious Reasons.

#don't make me famous #fandom comparisons #trigun fandom really is seriously chill #even when we don't like each other we don't make a big deal out of it #love and peace

[thenightisland]

people trying to insist a fandom is tiny when it /only/ has a few thousand works on ao3 meanwhile my current fandom is a sixteen book series and has several hundred fewer works than goncharov, a movie that, and i cannot stress this enough, doesn’t even exist

#measuring the size of fandoms based on their goncharov index #this has been a useless text post you may now resume your normal programming #rote has a goncharov index of 0.63 #for perspective ofmd has an index of 26.5 #spn's is 360.8 #the cosmere is 2.26 for a fantasy book comparison #i am very normal #post

[horang-07]

FNAF SPOILERS! SCROLL! TALKING ABOUT THE SPRINGLOCK SCENE!

i’ve seen so many people discussing the springlock scene in both negative and positive ways and i think it brings up really cool points about how matthew played that scene and balanced fan expectations with his own characterisation.

i think the discussions around this movie have rlly exposed the disconnect between fanon and canon in fnaf, especially talking abt the core games in isolation, bc frankly in the game universe (ignoring the books) we get Very Little characterisation for William other than the obvious, but Matthew managed to add so much in the way he talks and his body language.

in the reveal scene, we see afton at arguably his peak. in his first scene, he comes off as somewhat demeaning and judgemental until he recognises mike’s name, at which point he seems to have this nervous energy, rushing to cover it up but stumbling slightly, his reaction to the tables being turned even slightly is massive.

this is a man who committed multiple mrdrs in essentially broad daylight, hid the bodies in the most obvious place, and still got away with it, and then kept the crime scene as a trophy of his actions, and an ongoing prison sentence for his victims. he has been in complete control for decades, and is confident that he can deal with any kind of threat quickly. his confidence in his reveal is palpable

it changes when vanessa shoots him. the whole parallel with vanessa and the animatronics is hugely interesting too- how william refers to the animatronics almost endearingly as “kids” when he wants them to obey, how both vanny and the animatronics have an unearned loyalty to him, almost a pseudo-adoption through what he did to them, taking them from their parents and keeping them under his thumb, forever stuck as naive, forgiving, obedient children. vanessa breaking from that control shakes him, but the mask slips back into place almost immediately.

then, he’s outsmarted by the brother of one of his victims, and the child he planned to end next. his pseudo-children turn on him and he can no longer manipulate his appearance or shed his skin to escape. he explodes on them, and his language is incredibly telling that he is being dishonest.

he calls them small, trying to belittle them into submission, even though they are ten feet tall metal animatronics powered by rage. he is grasping at straws to regain control, and failing miserably.

finally, the springlocks go off. the locks in the movie look more like a ribcage, so the first two likely puncture his lungs. they’re slow, and painful, but he doesn’t scream or beg or sob. he grunts and groans, gritting his teeth and only letting out sounds of pain that sound almost involuntary. there is no way in hell he would visibly let himself show weakness or pain in front of these creatures that he believes he has control over. he isn’t brought to his knees until there are eight metal spikes embedded in his abdomen. he doesn’t let the mask fall for even a second, until he literally PUTS THE ACTUAL MASK ON and finally collapses. even then, he’s fighting for consciousness, twitching and writhing with no control over his body. william afton thrives on control, and his soul will not rest until he gets it back.

it’s why he keeps the pizzeria- he always comes back. he can’t help but return to the scene of the crime, putting on his old costume, continuing his killings. he revels in being a constant threat on the horizon. and now, he knows he is going to die, and he knows the suit will bring him back, and noone will be able to get rid of him then. so he puts the mask back on, and waits.

in terms of the sfx- they’re pretty accurate. with stab wounds, you need to leave the knife in the wound as long as possible for best chance of survival, as it stops the blood from escaping. in terms of the springlocks, there wouldn’t be copious amounts of blood as the locks are keeping the wounds filled- which is good because it means a slower, more painful death.

#fnaf #fnaf movie #eden rambles #william afton #matthew lillard #springtrap #five nights at freddy's #fnaf spoilers #idk i thought it was a great scene #ppl just need to manage their expectations of what fnaf 1 Actually Is in isolation #not the years of other media and fandom and lore and theory #we literally saw him get springlocked one time in 8 bit with no audio and four frames. how is this worse in comparison #wanna make another post talking abt how the film explores images vs the reality when you look deeper #specifically abby and her drawings/the drawings at freddys vs mike’s motivation being based on the images he sees in his dreams #and how it’s so perfect for fnaf 1 being a game almost entirely made of just scary images without actually exploring the reality #that these robots are Children and Scared and Lost #tldr the fort scene was necessary

[ribbononline]

Callie and Marie posting in honor of their Splat 3 designs which I love dearly

#splatoon 3 #callie #marie #callie and marie #squid sisters #are those the tags. i hate tagging for fandoms i dont usually post in i have no clue pensive emoji #dont look too hard at maries parasol. i drew it like three times died then gave up #callie was a dedlight to draw i love shading w the outline colors #marie was a struggle in comparison i hate working w white KFJHSDJF #anyways. yeah #i used to be fairly neutral on the squid sisters but their splat 3 designs really elevated them for me actually wwww #i am a callie stan now. marie also looks nice

[hppjmxrgosg]

to all the fanfic writers who write about small, niche tropes and random crossovers that have less than a thousand works total and rarepairs and one specific vein content so that despite the master pieces you write you only get a couple hundred hits: you are doing god's work. i am kissing you on the head. you are my lifeblood.

edit since its getting lost in the tags: the thousand works comment is not to minimize the people who write for subgenres with maybe 10 works or rairpairs with like 3 works, but to include people who, while garnering more attention than the former, may still feel disheartened for receiving less attention on their work than people who write for megafandoms or very common tropes. 1000 is more than ten, but 1000 is closer to 10 than 200,000.

#i love you infinitely #fanfic #ao3 #rare niche fanfic about the strangest crossover that fuels my heart #edit: this isnt meant to minimize people who only get maybe 8 hits or amhave 10 works in their content realm #but to include people who write things that might be bigger than some fandoms and pairs #but are still miniscule in comparison to mega fandoms

[meep-meep-richie]

Totally normal about the way they look to each other

#shut up i love it #charles in las vegas made my brain rot even worse #max did it first tho #no that second pic is not from las vegas #just a comparison #lestappen #3316 #las vegas gp 2023 #f1 #f1 fandom #formule 1 #formula 1 #charles leclerc #max verstappen #verstappen #leclerc

[anthonycrowley]

i think this will get me tarred and feathered if i don’t word this properly but i do genuinely think that fandoms with canon relationships - gay or straight - as the most popular pairing kind of suck a little. like as a rule. not the media itself, that usually is very good. and especially in the case of actual lgbt rep i would rather that over well written fanfic every day of the week. but. man. something really is lost when you no longer have to have a downward spiral of madness with your friends for 2-4 weeks before you go ‘fuck it they’re in love i’ll do it myself’ and instead you’re all shaking hands going good game good game. a kinder world, truly. but none of you are going to write a 150k word fanfic set in an alternate apocalypse universe that showed up in a single episode out of 200 just to prove your blorbos truly Are in love.

#this is mostly about the state of azcrow fanfic plummeting the SECOND neil said that was his intention on twitter and also a little about #ofmd fanfic being. not bad but slightly uninspired in comparison to a Lot of fandoms i read for #but HONESTLY the gays are not alone. jaimebrienne fic got soooooo fucking boring after they fucked #and they broke up in canon so now i have NOTHING. which whatever. it’s fine. fuck you got. anywY. #text #my post #mobi #***to be clear i don’t know if mulderscully could do the apocalypse thing i didn’t finish the x files. other than them tho.

[freedfromthegalactichivemind]

Okay, browsing another fandom-tag, (the thing I am newly becoming RE-obsessed with, my longstanding decades old fandom re-emerging due to shiny new material)... well... I found something that made me think of THIS fandom and how ridiculous it is sometimes and how ridiculous fandom can be about certain things.   Take a look at this reblogged image on my other sideblog: Classic Trigun Official Art.   Its kind of spoilery for those who haven’t seen the 1998 original anime series, but it’s non-canonical at, anyway.  At least, I think it’s non-canon art.  However, it is official, as in, it’s not canon art / not an image from the actual anime, but it is promotional, a kind of post-series funsies thing done by crew.   The pale-haired guy in the space-suit there?  The one who’s got the smiling spiky-haired guy’s arm wrapped around him?  He’s the series’ main villain.  He’s also a genocidal maniac with a deep hated of humanity who has murdered millions of people.  He of course is here, in this funsie official / adjacent art shown in the trope of a “reforming villain” with heroic-characters including the main (Vash with his arm arround him - twin brother) gladly hanging out with him.  Anyway, my point is that - hey, look at the actual official although non-canonical art of the “defanged villain” trope - done for fun, to show a villain being begrudgingly good / implied to be on his way to reformation post series, etc.  Silly promo / bonus art.   It made me think about how She-Ra fandom had the Catra vs. Hordak wars and how some people / factions were just AGAHST at the idea that some of us fan-critters loved to contemplate redemption arcs and do fanart and fanfic that defanged the villains and so forth.  While people don’t seem to mind it much for Horde Prime - people doing sexy or silly fanart with him to scratch that itch for a “defanged dark lord” fun time, people got really bent out of shape for a while for both Hordak and Catra, didn’t they?  In the Hordak fan-faction (hi there, where I make my bed, or my clone-pod, as it were) there were a lot of people who hated Catra, thought of her as taking time away from their blorbo and who considered her “too toxic” for Adora and made this big honking serious deal out of it.  Fanfics about Catra fucking off to the Crirmson Waste alone and whatnot... I actually don’t mind pairing Adora with other people, it’s just that some of the “Catra cannot be redeeeeeemed!” stuff got a little obnoxious for me, even though I, myself, got sick and fucking tired of overzealous Catra-stans calling me a genocidal colonist for liking Hordak.   And of course, um, Hordak.  A villain portrayed with some sympathy and human emotions, despite being an actual dictator trying to conquer a planet. Yeah, Hordak’s done a lot of fucked up things, like employing torture and execution-by-exile in his reign.  I like him, anyway, because of those sympathetic points - the clone-cult stuff, the sense that he has a desire to be wanted and loved despite everything (thank you, Entrapta).  And, well, I LOVE the idea of post-canon, of “Lets let him live a cute domestic life with Entapta and lets dress him in sweaters and have him discover how delicious mangoes are, the poor cult-denied big fruit bat!”   And, well, there was a big row among people about liking these characters, something of a sympathy-contest of who “deserves more sympathy” and whatnot.  I was sitting here the whole time going “Let me enjoy my defanged dark lord trope in peace.”   Meanwhile, back in my old fandom, which I have returned to... it’s like “Oh, yeah, there’s official art of the actual literal genocidal maniac who canonically has a very graphic 100K+ body count being domesticated by the good guys, not to mention what the fandom does and the thirst some fans have for this guy”  and it’s like.... “Whoa, anime fandoms just be more chill than American cartoon fandoms, don’t they?”    No one accuses you of wanting to erase humanity because you enjoy Millions Knives, so why do people accuse you of being a real life abuser or colonial apologist if you enjoy Catra or Hordak?  

#fandom comparisons #villains #villain tropes #defanged dark lord #catra #hordak #the catra vs. hordak wars #spop discourse #trigun #anime #deep apologies for people on the trigun tag who aren't into she-ra #this is my dumb she-ra blog #for my actual trigun blog go to lost-technology

[mrs-sherlock-holmes]

Yet another Fandom Comparison:

Merlin and Nick Miller being absolutely unable to lie or else their bodies betray them and shut everything down

#new girl #Merlin #nick Miller #fandom comparisons #elle’s original posts #fandom comparison #love these bumbling idiots <3 #colin morgan #Jake Johnson

[imagionationstation]

He straight memorized the map

I love how the series goes from Donnie needing a map to find their way through the sewers in Season 1, Ep 14:

“Snakeweed’s Lair should be around here somewhere…”

To Donnie knowing every inch of the sewers like the back of his hand and literally leading his family through every escape hatch and to each destination in Season 4, Episode 20:

“Up ahead. It’s not far.”

“This way. Hurry!”

“This is the same station Karai held us captive. Remember? When she poisoned us.”

“I’ve got a fix on Splinter. He’s in the Under City.”

“That’s where he fought the Rat King! Come on! I know a short cut!”

Seriously. This kid never ceases to find way to make himself useful.

#tmnt 2012 #tmnt 2k12 #See what I see TMNT #teenage mutant ninja turtles 2012 #tmnt donnie 2012 #Turtle Comparison Notes #2012 donnie #tmnt fandom #donnie 2012 #tmnt 2012 donnie #2012 tmnt #tmnt raph 2012 #tmnt leonardo 2012 #2012 donatello #tmnt donatello 2012 #donatello 2012 #tmnt leo 2012 #tmnt mikey 2012 #tmnt raphael 2012 #tmnt michelangelo 2012 #donnie tmnt 2012 #tmnt april 2012 #donnie hamato #teenage mutant ninja turtles

[tanaleth]

Minthara on legendary drow hero, Drizzt Do'Urden

oh Christ, nobody tell her about Tumblr

#my dearest sweetest homicidal beloved #after your reaction to my slayer form that comparison may not be as impactful as you think #minthara #minthara baenre #baldur's gate 3 #bg3 spoilers #drider #drizzt do'urden #kar'niss #(I knew immediately when I met him that fandom was going to clamor for drider flesh) #(and you weirdos have not let me down <3)

[lord-squiggletits]

With all due respect IDW Megatron is the kind of dad that would go out to get cigarettes and then never see his kids again considering that's what he did to all of the Decepticons leaving on the Lost Light + he groomed Tarn into worshipping him as a mentor/authority figure and then basically stopped caring about him.

#squiggposting #a meme was posted in a discord chat and we discussed #i think all dad comparisons should be purely for memes and not lik #textually interpreting characters as being parentz #but still come on megs would be a horrible dad ksfjaidjsj #at the very least he's so full of personal issues that i would see him seriously struggling #idk idw megs can be like an AUTHORITY FIGURE or someone who lays down the rules #but he's like 0 percent nurturing or emotionally communicative #he has almost no ability to be vulnerable and is overall very cutting in the way he speaks #idk like i'm not gonna say YOUR HEADCANON IS WRONG if people like dadly megatron #but this is just one of those things i dont agree with the fandom memes and jokes

[fromtheseventhhell]

"Sansa = Ned 2.0 and Arya = Catelyn 2.0" is one of those takes where you can just tell people are more attached to the aesthetic than anything. "The Stark girls are most like the parent they look least like" sounds good on paper and people run with the idea, regardless of how it actually fits into the story. A majority of the justification relies on misinterpreting all of their characters + a healthy dose of fanon. What gets me is that this is the same fandom that insists that Lyanna, only compared to Arya in the text, is equal parts Arya and Sansa but Ned and Catelyn, two fully fleshed-out and complex characters, have to be more like one girl or the other? There's just nothing in the story to justify being so adamant about these comparisons. Arya and Sansa have parallels with both of their parents but at the end of the day, they are unique characters with their own stories. I'll never understand why people want to flatten these complex characters down to their most basic tropes and fit them into restrictive boxes just for a "poetical~" comparison.

#arya stark #sansa stark #catelyn stark #ned stark #house stark #asoiaf #BORING YAWNING SLOPPY #notice how these takes never come with actual evidence from the books to make direct comparisons from the text? #/ned is a gentle quiet poitican/ and he physically attacks someone + constantly shows his frustration and voicing his opinions #our first introduction to him is him executing a man and we know he's done so several times that year #he says that his toddler son needs to grow up and stop being afraid of a giant wolf cause /winter is coming/ and Northern life is hard 😭 #/Cat is a feral wild woman/ and her chapters are full of her holding her tongue and trying to mediate situations #people literally switch their characterizations cause the second a woman shows emotion she's /feral/ #and a man can be the most wild unhinged character ever and still be /kind/ and /gentle/ #like yeah fanon sansa is fanon ned 2.0 and fanon arya is fanon cat 2.0 but their actual characters are more complex then that #the only valid /2.0/ comparison is between Lyanna and Arya but somehow she gets split between Arya and Sansa 🥴 #my hourly frustration at this fandom not caring about the story and only being here for /the vibes~/ #like Ned hates Tourneys and protests one as a waste of resources while Sansa is planning a Tourney and using resources while winter #is arriving and smallfolk are going hungry...but she's Ned 2.0? Where? How? Huh? #And yeah Ned deals with politics in KL but that's relatively a small aspect of his character #and even him constantly speaking his mind and challenging Robert directly is the exact opposite of Sansa's approach 😭 #/courtesy is a Lady's armor/ vs. /I'm gonna tell Robert he's an idiot right to his face/ oh yeah totes the same #Arya is the character following his advice and guidance for a reason just saying #like if Sansa was doing the same I could see it but she..isn't? Her approach is much closer to Catelyn's than Ned's #I don't understand why people have all of the sudden decided that the Sansa/Cat parallels are shallow when they're #very similar characters and Sansa's current plot actually revolves around that fact #obviously they're not exactly alike but no two characters are or even meant to be...their comparisons are still very valid #tired of being expected to accept an idea just because enough people repeat it

[runefells]

It's been nearly 3 years since I did my fanart of Candentia's darkly, and now that she's reposting her fics I can once again show my appreciation to one of the best authors in the fandom. ...Maybe I'm a little excited to be able to show off how much I've improved since then as well

This is fanart for Where Hope and Reason Part, which I'll link in a reblog.

#jonelias #elias bouchard #jonathan sims #the magnus archives #tma #jon #elias #gore #eye trauma #blood #think that covers the basics #je #my art #not a 'redo' of old art #but i love doing comparisons #fic art then vs fic art now #damn ive been in this fandom for a while