#even the non queer characters are queer

[orionsangel86]

Watching The Sandman again for the hundreth time and I know everyone always loves to focus on Dreamling, but can we talk about Rose Walker for a moment?

The Sandman is often applauded (and complained about) for being an extremely gay show, but I particularly love how even the characters who aren’t canonically gay come across as extremely gay.

Take Rose Walker. The main character of The Doll’s House story. Neither the show nor the comics ever give Rose a sexuality, but there are some very glaring factors that heavily support her being queer.

The first time we see Rose is in episode 5 24/7. Judy, the lesbian at the diner who has had a fight with her girlfriend Donna, calls Rose and asks if Rose knows where Donna is. We know that Rose considers both Judy and Donna close friends and has a picture of Judy in her apartment.

Rose’s only other friend that we know of besides Lyta Hall (who she got to know via proximity since they were neighbours) is her friend Carl who she clearly is close enough with to let him house sit for her (even though he has sex with The Corinthian on her bed!).

So her closest friends are a lesbian couple and a gay man. I know I know straight people can be friends with queer people but statistically speaking queers flock together. Its more likely that Lyta is the token straight in the friend group than Rose AND Lyta both being straight.

I also question her choice of seeking out accomodation in Cape Kennedy. Isn’t it interesting how she ends up in a very strange B&B also managed by a gay drag artist and filled with colourful characters including Chantal and Zelda (I know their relationship is supposed to remain ambiguous but imo the show also leans more into them being lesbians due to Chantal’s dream where she calls them “soul sisters” and “gothic brides” and I dunno I just think the fact she refers to them as brides is pretty telling!)

Of all your accomodation choices in Florida, this in particular seems like the kind of place one would go to if they were specifically looking for somewhere advertised as “LGBT friendly”. All the characters staying at the B&B are either canonically queer or heavily queer coded.

Gilbert/Fiddlers Green isn’t technically human, but his whole aura is distinguished older gay man - he’s played by Stephen Fry after all!

Also I could go on about Barbie (who I theorise found the accomodation for her and Ken) but without revealing any comic spoilers, she also later surrounds herself with basically all queer people. I know in the comics she is strictly heterosexual, but nah she dreams like a queer theatre kid on speed or something lmao. That girl is a bisexual disaster all the way and yeah I may be projecting on her as a fellow blonde overly dramatic dreamer and disaster bisexual but I claim her for my own okay just let me have this.

So yeah, the queer friendship groups, the specific seeking out of an LGBTQ friendly b&b in Florida, and the fact that she literally wears rainbows in her hair and I think its clear enough that that girl is a baby queer if ever I saw one.

Due to the merging of Rose and Lyta’s stories in the Netflix show, we should actually get to see more of Rose in future seasons. In the comics, after the Dolls House book, she doesn’t appear again (unless she turns up in the Wake since I haven’t read that far ahead), but by making her Lyta’s companion in the show, we know she will appear again since Lyta and the baby (Daniel not that he has been named yet in the show) are reoccuring characters throughout the entire Sandman comic run.

Maybe I just crave more lesbian and bisexual women rep in my fave shows, but sitting here watching this show again it just tickles me that in the entirety of season 1, it is so easy to view practically every major female or female presenting character as queer. Joanna Constantine and Rachel, Judy and Bette, Lucifer and Mazikeen (bring on the make out scene in season 2!), Chantal and Zelda, and in my opinion, Rose Walker, Barbie, Lucienne, and Gault are all queer coded WLW.

(Lucienne and Gault is just a ship I love okay but you can’t deny there was some flirting in episode 10!)

It’s been such a crappy year for lesbian rep with lesbian shows getting cancelled left right and centre. I just think lesbians should therefore claim the Sandman as theirs. if nothing else, claim it out of spite. It’s a fantasy show with a pathetic wet cat emo boy as a main character who literally surrounds himself with lesbians, is probably in love with his best friend, and considers a slutty gay serial killer with teeth for eyes his greatest ever creation. It just seems to me like the kind of show that should appeal heavily to WLW okay! Plus there are more lesbians coming in season 2! Encourage your lesbian and bisexual friends to go watch The Sandman now!

#The Sandman #rose walker #lgbtq #queer coding #queer coding in the sandman #please talk to me about this show #i love it and i really wanna talk about it now #even the non queer characters are queer #the angry straights were right when they said every character in the show is gay #even the non gay characters are gay #its the gay fantasy show to go with the gay pirate and vampire shows #my stuff

[fromtheseventhhell]

People erasing Asha's attraction to/relationships with men because she's a non-conforming woman is very weird (i.e. homophobic and misogynistic)

#asha greyjoy #it's so frustrating that people ignore part of her character because they don't think it /fits/ with her nonconformity #if you want to make queer headcanons about her you can just say she's bisexual! it's right there and doesn't disrespect her character #makes me even more appreciative that George writes several of his non-conforming female character with love interests #and gives them nuances without just writing any of them as flat/basic stereotypes #the show had an influence but I see this even from book only readers and it always leaves a nasty taste in my mouth #sorry but saying that Asha has to be a lesbian because she's masculine/non-conforming is just insane logic

[variousqueerthings]

there’s so many ways that queerness exists in texts, unintentionally and intentionally, coded and uncoded and partially coded and baited and confused and limited and expansive, and then there’s whatever is happening with Hawkeye Pierce, M.D. of the 4077th MASH unit

#hawkeye pierce #MASH #there is of course also the constant mist of gender/sexuality queering that hangs over the narrative because of its structure #its structure as comedy (often subject to whimsical departures from acceptable gender/sexualities) #its structure as anti-establishment and anti-conformity #its celebration of non-conformist personalities and lives and its redefinitions over and over of madness and mutual aid #its structure - of course - as found family #its structure as an island in a sea of militant and fascistic surrealism and answering the questions of: #well what does the alternative to that violence look like? #so the idea of intentionality/unintentionality sort of doesn't matter #because it's creating a manifesto/ethos of sorts that speaks the same language as queerness #and it's down to the DNAs of its structures #(not even mentioning the structures of echoing the realities of those making it -- ethnicities - romantic lives - cultures and religions - #friendships and political beliefs - family structures created on the set of the show itself) #but yes hawkeye pierce is depicted as fascinatingly overtly queer and comedy is (like horror... which....) an acceptable space #for him to be this #(which -- when the horror and tragedy takes more of a front seat his funny-man queerness is somewhat diminished #but a. still very much present b. given an air of drama that legitimises it further c. underpinned by seasons and seasons of existence #d. embedded in that self-same DNA of the structures -- he IS the main POV character #which means he's carrying so much of that idea of non-conformity/civilish disobedience as good and right/whimsy/gender-and-sexuality/etc #so you see... there's whatever is happening with hawkeye pierce M.D.

[booasaur]

A League of Their Own (2022) - Season 1 Trailer - Carson and Greta

#alotoedit #a league of their own prime #carson shaw #greta gill #abbi jacobson #d'arcy carden #a league of their own spoilers #carson x greta #the potential portmanteaus are....not promising #femslash related stuff #well well well #I for some reason thought abbi's character would be the one non-queer character since she's married #but lol no #I assumed max would be since we saw her Gazing at another lady in a previous trailer #and even though they cut two different scenes in this one...she had a lipstick mark on her cheek! I'm putting her down too #lupe? gotta be it's roberta colindrez #jess...I mean it's zeph from KJ obvs #and jo and maybelle's actors played wlw in shrill and perry mason respectively #so every single one of them better be a wlw

[monsieuroverlord]

One of Marvel's Pride Stories this year, apparently:

(Hi, still internally screaming, thanks for checking in!)

#a doodle i made during my lunch break today #I'm still flabbergasted #about all of them #but this one esp got under my skin #like okay a rogue/gambit side story is cute #rachel/betsy is one of the queer x-couples #and emma could be fun #like this wouldn't be as irritating if it was a standalone ALONGSIDE the main pride issue you know? #none of the non x-men characters have stories this year #even then literally only two queer x-couples have stories regardless! #like even if they wanted an x-men focused pride this year theyre barely usin them! #anyways #thats enough ramblin in the tags #gabby kinney #daken akihiro #fang #wolverine #james logan howlett #logan howlett

[genspiel]

Ray Walker: is a bisexual Lakota man

me: oh, some bi and Indigenous rep! that's cool

also Ray Walker: has "never been a romantic" and "never expect[s] anything long-term" from relationships, feels like "romantic" is an inaccurate description of his relationship with his ex, and asks another character if they can be friends who have sex sometimes

me: oh wait holy shit, is he aroallo???

#tre reads #homesick #before we disperse like star stuff #nino cipri #ray walker #aroallo #aromantic #the word “bisexual” is specifically used but “aromantic” is not so i can't be 100% sure here #but those descriptions do seem to imply that he could be at least arospec...??? #he specifically says that there's no word IN ENGLISH that describes his ex relationship #he doesn't specify if there IS a term in the Lakota language/culture that better describes it or not #but. still #even if i'm wrong about this possible aro rep i still love this story and the collection it's in so very much #y'all please go read it #there's a lot of non-aspec queer rep in all the stories #specifically in before we disperse like star stuff there's also two trans characters! #the author themself is trans/nonbinary and has some super intriguing story premises imo #everybody should go read their work right now dshfjkdf

[fvedyetor]

sigma is the trans ever!! proof: my friend and i were drawing fanart for each other and she was drawing sigma for me and after like ten minutes she was like "wait! is he trans? should i make him trans? i can add top surgery scars here..." and the best part is shes never even read/seen bsd before!!

yippee!! trans sigma wins again guys

#even the non bsd fans can tell that sigma is queer #what a character #bsd #trans sigma #sigma bsd

[buck1eys]

LOTR PEOPLE just thinking about a Possession AU where Éowyn and Faramir are PhD students at different universities researching this early medieval Old English text called Þāra Hringa Hlāford and they develop an academic rivalry about whether a certain two figures in the narrative were getting it on or not. This debate is much encouraged by a certain reincarnated Prof. G. L. Findel who knows an enemies to lovers moment when he sees one and gets them together for some field study

#lord of the rings #faramir x eowyn #eowyn #faramir #glorfindel #the silmarillion #tagging this as #gimleaf #gigolas #because that is my in manuscript debatable ship of choice #but whatever floats your boat until i break my leg and am forced to spend summer inside writing 200k of this #but genuinely think about it #Tolkien could even be a referenced character who produced a fairly conservative modern translation 50 years ago #eowyn is one of those medievalist sandboxers who loves a queer feminist reading of any and everything #faramir is a linguistics transplant with more traditional approaches to scholarship lets say #but he's never met anyone with such an intuitive grasp of old english even if her latin is non existant #glorfindel KNOWS they were banging but he can't say shit

[in-tua-deep]

Had a dream where I was back in high school in a math class and my teacher was just. Incredibly disrespectful about my identity/pronouns. So I swapped to the other math class section with a different teacher

And new teacher didn’t use my pronouns either, but it still felt better. And then someone broke my desk. And someone asked me if I made the right choice swapping, because neither teacher used my pronouns, right? And I just had this moment of such clarity, of, “yeah, he doesn’t use my pronouns. He doesn’t always use the right name. But you know what? He’s angry someone broke my desk, and I know that if he finds out who it was, they would be in trouble. And it wouldn’t be like that with the other teacher.”

Just. Utter clarity of the definition between someone who doesn’t understand pronouns but still sees me as a person deserving of safety vs. someone who maliciously doesn’t use my pronouns as a way to communicate disrespect and thinks that means I don’t deserve to be safe

#my dreams #rip to my high school history teacher who got cast as the villain #but also neither of these teachers were math teachers #it was my highschool history teacher and my high school art teacher? #very out of character for my history teacher. but honestly pretty in character for the art one #do I think my old art teacher would have used my pronouns? no #do I think he would have bitten then head off of someone who was messing with me? yes absolutely #terrifying man. used art as a coping mechanism for his war experience. 10/10 #I think this dream is a reaction to my new job actually #sat down and had a very emotional but helpful conversation with my director about pronouns and use of them with clients #my supervisor is a queer elder who is confused but supportive #told me that if non-binary were as known as it is today back then supervisor might also identify with it #but supervisor is apparently too old to come out *again* #which what a mood #man being non-binary is fucking hard #nothing but respect for my fellow they/thems and neo-pronoun users this shit is EXHAUSTING #also shoutout to the dream bit where bad teacher was like ‘haha and is that an apple’ when I was holding a banana #and I just fully ignored him. didn’t even acknowledge the ‘joke’ #an iconic move if I don’t say so myself

[juneviews]

DAMNNN, they kinda popped off on step by step! would be a fair point to make if it wasn't itself a bl show profiting off lgbtq+ relationships but oh well 🤭

#axelle rants #step by step #step by step the series #like ngl I can never take shows that do this seriously lol bc how are you gonna call yourself out like that #to be fair step by step is a lot less exploitative than other bl shows so far but still #and to be fair it IS very much in line with pat as an actual queer character to say that so it makes sense why this sentence was said #I do really like the show though & this is making me think: is there a way to make bl shows non exploitative? #I guess not pushing the pairing in events & such but it's so embedded in thai culture atp idk if that's possible #ANYWAYS we're raising philosophical questions here lol #but anyways what do y'all think of step by step? I'm super enjoying the long episodes & the characters I'm very much into it #also LOVE how they're taking their time to set up the ship slowly even though most bl shows rush to hook fans in as early as possible #but also khun jeng asking pat to share his bed ON A WORK TRIP AS BOSS EMPLOYEE IS FUCKING INSANE #all of these boss employees shows are making me think: is there no hr in thailand? bc phi gun & khun jeng would've have been fired - #- a long time ago almost everywhere else LMAO

[fromtheseventhhell]

No offense but trans-masc/trans-man headcanons about Arya are so incorrect, I'm sorry. I can't even take them seriously considering this fandom's desire to separate Arya from girlhood/womanhood. I would love it if people would stop trying to divorce female characters (and real women) from their identities as women just because they aren't traditionally feminine.

If we're talking about actual good-faith interpretations, ones that actually work with how Arya is written, then trans-femme is a much better fit. Arya has never had the desire to be a boy or be seen as one, she is fiercely insistent on her identity as a girl and corrects people several times, she doesn't consider herself a "real" Lady because she's not one in the same way her mother and sister are (!!!), she has self-esteem issues from her looks and ability to perform feminine tasks, she actually spends time pretending to be a boy but never considers herself one or enjoys doing it, as time progresses she loses the ability to pass as a boy (!!!), etc. Look at the material!! There's so much there to discuss from that perspective! Arya's non-conformity and how that fits into a society with such strict gender norms is fascinating and there's a lot to discuss there, but calling her trans-masc is one of the laziest interpretations to come up with.

#arya stark #asoiaf #It's wild cause I literally never see any other character separated from their gender identity like Arya is #Arya isn't even our most non-conforming character (female or otherwise) and yet it feels like she gets singled out for this treatment #probably because characters like Brienne + Asha + Sam are more associated with romance than her and as progressive as people claim to be #they aren't actually interested in queer identities + relationships and their larger implications go figure 🙄 #her feelings about being a Lady are so intertwined with society's (misogynistic) expectations like ughhh it's such a well-done conflict #I just wish people weren't such illiterate clowns about it #Arya doesn't like sewing or wearing dresses and wants to be more than a housewife and people go /this is a man/ :/ #it's like seeing people portray Arya with darker skin than her siblings...the way this fandom acts I know it's not being down in good faith #can it be done sincerely by people interested in exploring queer subtext? 100% is it often done so? almost never #no hate to people who genuinely make these headcanons this is for the people who hate viewing Arya as the girl she actually is #justice for trans-femme!Arya cause it works so much better then any other identity people force on her #though it is hilarious to me that people act like complicated feelings towards gender are impossible for cis people to have lol

[limpfisted]

Was just informed karlachs va is blasian, big win for the nation of blasia tbh

#the wasian nation salutes u queen #ooc #i feel some kind of way that u cant tell karlach is a poc bc shes a big red tiefling #but thats a whole nother thing lol #also. they also got. very little time with their character #and the least amount of scenes besides anyone but wyll #but. lets pretend theres not a pattern #and that its not even more tragic for a queer non binary person of color to be going thru the same damn thing as theo

[aroacesimp69]

My first water colour painting since my epilepsy caused me to lose some of my motor control, it's messy and amateurish, and the colours aren't what i wanted, but I'm proud of it anyway because even though my fine motor controls will probably never be the same again, i can still make art and will continue to

#epilepsy #jme #art #artists on tumblr #oc #oc art #original character #non binary #queer #even if you're disabled you can still make art #dont give up hope #you can do it #art is never perfect #but thats what makes it beautiful #pansexual #also this is alex #their pronouns are they/them #and they're a himbo #thembo? #they're big beefy and kind is the point

[eenochian]

“headcanoning farah as wlw is disrespectful because she’s muslim”

my. my guy. queer people exist in every group. queer muslims very much exist.

“ok but it’s a sin in islam”

WHY ARE WE SUDDENLY JUSTIFYING HOMOPHOBIA WITH RELIGION⁉️⁉️ it’s wrong for a christian to use religion to justify their bigotry, so WHY is it okay to use islam or any other religion to do the same?? i know that i’m comparing the world’s most oppressive religion (christianity) to a religion that’s oppressed, but like… allowing one group to essentially “get a pass” opens the door for EVERY group to get one.

what was even weirder is that the person who made the post about it wasn’t even muslim 😭 they said they looked it up which i believe, but then they had an actual wlw muslim in their comments telling them it wasn’t a big deal— and THEY LITERALLY TOLD THE COMMENTER THAT IT WAS STILL DISRESPECTFUL?? AND OTHER NON-MUSLIMS WERE GOING “grr but it’s a sin >:(” LIKE?? HELLO?? WHY are people not even included in the group talking over ACTUAL MEMBERS OF THE GROUP???

i care very deeply about respecting people’s beliefs and faiths. but once that belief starts to harm others, my respect is withdrawn. the golden rule is that your rights end where another person’s begin. i remember seeing posts from years ago about queer muslims. they’ve always reminded me of queer christians – the vast majority of their faiths hate them, but they do still exist. and it’s possible to be progressive while also being devoted to your faith. i’ve met so many religious folks that are allies and supportive of queer people, so seeing posts like this crop up and gain popularity is just… disheartening. it feels like we’re going backwards after finally making some progress.

#not to mention the fucking astronomical rise in purity culture #so many young people don’t even realize that they’re becoming just as rigid and bigoted #as the older folks they claim to hate and be so much better than #it’s fucking 2023. we have less than 4 months until 2024. #the fact that people– especially people MY AGE– are still using religion to justify hate is insane to me #go back 8 or so years #back when “free the nip” was on the rise and people started reclaiming slurs and celebrating pride #we were somehow more progressive then than we are now #this is such an insignificant situation in the grand scheme of things #but it provides so much insight into the thinking of this generation. #we think we’re being progressive and so respectful and kind and that we’re so much better #because SURELY respecting a religion’s beliefs is the right thing to do #unless it’s christianity. then have at it y’know #but all these people (non-muslims) are doing is justifying bigotry and hatred with the EXACT same arguments that they claim aren’t valid #“you can’t use religion to justify hate!! (unless it’s this religion lol)” #like. that’s not the take you think it is. and we’re never going to progress past these hateful beliefs if you continue to justify it #idk just. as a queer person myself who has a fem oc that i ship with farah because i love her and view her as a very progressive character #seeing people use her to justify outdated bigoted beliefs hurts so bad #her whole character revolves around empowerment. and going against traditions. and not bowing down to what other people say #using her to justify the exact behavior that she fights against just feels disrespectful to HER. #like yes– she’s very likely muslim given where she lives. but she already doesn’t follow several of the practices iirc #and again. ‼️QUEER MUSLIMS EXIST‼️ #it’s just. ugh. i’m going in circles atp #i’m going to sleep i’m too tired and migraine-y for the internet

[unproduciblesmackdown]

billions could only have a gay man, who was married, and died by the end of that season; only deal with taylor's upending of presumed cishettery by having everyone who's not terrible be automatically down without putting some crisis about it on them, as the better approach to trying to have people talk about it (true, certainly in this case); extent of its room for rian's latent nonbinariness being "never wearing skirts/dresses, always wearing makeup though"....all that is to say, even with neither of them allowed to be "truly" cishet, b/c that's the rewarded realm for superior people, billions could never do winstuk. but they could be kissing right now

#winston & tuk: cannot be cishet in a way that matters (billions means this as an insult. i mean it as a testimonial) #sure convincing that winston's own ideals are like ''wow im the straightest in the world'' after One alleged official dating experience #and Two crushes on nonbinary people. and being the One person who's a) supported tuk b) without telling him to Stop Being A Loser #the one way other characters can Elevate(tm) tuk more than winston: not Really support him; just tell him to Become worthier #while winston: does not do this #anyway nobody at all gets to be ''truly'' ''ideally'' cishet; just like other inventions re the Correctest body/mind's look & behavior #tbt yrs & yrs ago some random lady talking abt ''queering'' her marriage by having a cellphone or smthing like ma'am i agree nowadays fr #winston Cannot have a ''correct'' sexuality even if he's supposedly ''at least'' cishet with it #neither can tuk; next most loserest dumped no gf nerd! neither Unglasses'd; neither Thin; winston's autistic; tuk isn't white.... #show goes ''well just look at & listen to him XD'' towards winston on occasion; usually doesn't ''overtly'' do this; doesn't re: tuk.... #meanwhile the idea that well Non Hot(tm) people who have no place in ideals & fantasy of Correctness & what's most desired? #they can get with Each Other :) that doesn't threaten things haha don't know how wrong they are. or have accepted All They Deserve (less) #billions is so proximately capable of letting these two be Involved in this way lmao. but it also Isn't #can barely handle taylor & just avoids addressing as much outright as often; again: one gay man; neatly married; neatly deceased.... #iconic total hc's: supplementary dynamics the ladies who are also friends they hooked up w/in 6x11 having a fourway abt it #no anxious negotiating of what must be done & must not be done to keep it all cishet ''enough'' lol. congrats to them all #winston billions #winstuk #was already thinking winston could be dating someone we don't know abt till billions tried to reassure us oh he hasn't Of Course lol right #same is true for tuk ofc but he gets the same treatment (ft. ben's utter mysteriousness re: Any mention of past dating history....) #riawin could've been great & was completely welcome; issue became how the abusiveness there would just also manifest re: sex / romance #totally won't find resonance / overlap b/w ableism & homophobia in how winston's sexuality is seen as mere sex drive that's also gross btw #tuk's really also framed the same way like Of Course You'd Be Rejected; and Any desires would become repulsively Too Much #b/c the superior parties have to want it for it to be correct! & they'd never want You! you're just completely wrong & outside of it all #winston talking at all? Too Much. he must be talked To; & that is so usually begrudging & nonideal #other ppl being horney like well of course. pretty epic really #like w/e winston's sucking & fucking & [Saluting] if he isn't dating at all. like good for him. he can make out w/tuk one way or another #''winston can go fuck himself'' (like one bg dialogue person straightup says) Okay. He Is. party for one? this too can be Sex

[dukeofriven]

Normalize non-binary characters who don't dress like total dorks. Normalize non-binary characters who don't remind you of the most exhausting person you knew in drama class. Normalize non-binary characters who look like they'd be happiest bombing around rugged terrain in a 1987 Ford Ranger Bigfoot Cruiser they restored themselves.

Normalize non-binary characters who've never painted so much as a toenail and have no inclination to do so.

Normalize non-binary characters who are hairy, heavy, sweaty, and whose favourite musical group is The California Raisins. Normalize non-binary characters who you can't identify from the other side of a warehouse by sight.

Normalize non-binary characters who look and act like a diverse group of people you might meet in your everyday life because god damn am I sick to death of shows getting praised for 'representation' that never stops feeling like a caricatured Other.

#non-binary #queer #enby #characters #yes I am watching Star Trek Discovery #yes its version of queer feels like it had to pass through six comittees of studio execs #yes its cringey as hell and no amount of 'but isn't it GOOD to see ourselves on screen at all' can makeup for how false it feels #I'm old enough to remember the 90s/00s and the first gay characters we were supposed to applaud for breaking barriers #they were all the same guy #the same catty sexless asshole #(Remember Second City's 'Sassy Gay Friend'? No? Man I'm old) #and it honestly did more harm than good because The Gay was always The Other #and rather than teach the lesson that 'a gay can be anyone around you' #it instead taught the world 'how to recognize a gay' #and even within the queer community we still internalize those fucking paradigms today #see: every self-doubt post going 'am I really [x] if I don't [y] #imagine how much freer the queer community would be if we hadn't internalized that sense of checklist gatekeeping #Am I really gay if i'm not an enormous tool like Kurt Hummel? #and so on #we don't take a lot of steps forward #we take a lot of steps sideways and call it progress because there's technically movement