#discussing philosophy on the other?

[backlogbooks]

Reading When The Angels Left the Old Country and I’m so enamored by every page, like the writing is just so wonderful and i’m in love with the characters and also i’m Very Nervous about events 

#mary emma talks #also. not to discuss ga*man on the side of tumblr that likes him but um #this is why i don't accept his word of god 'it's not two gay men it's an angel and a demon' vague nod towards them being nonbinary and/or #asexual #reading this book and the way the angel is described and feels in its head is like. #okay it's not that neil's thing wasn't 'valid' or whatever but you know that meme where it's playing blocks with a baby on one side and #discussing philosophy on the other? #I'm relieved and excited to be reading a book that i could discuss gender with in more complicated temrs than 'nonhuman therefore nongender' #*terms #anyway mostly i'm trying not to compare because the book is so goddamn good in its own right that i really don't want to spend my time being #like 'oh this did this so much better' because i just want to read #but a couple of the gender moments really hit me like oh That's why that whole thing bothered me when the tv show came out #you know?

[commsroom]

there's an interesting statement being made about identity if you accept all of the wolf 359 characters are equally themselves as of the finale: eiffel is form without memory; hera is memory without form; lovelace is both, but without continuity of experience; minkowski is both with continuity - and she's still not the same person that goddard recruited. if we're never the same people we were, but we're always ourselves, then the only way the self can be defined is through its own assertion - and maybe it can be argued that "my name is-" (and later, being able to say "my name is hera" reintroducing herself to pryce) and "i am captain isabel lovelace. no matter how hard you try, you are not taking that away from me" and "without me, who are you?" / "renée minkowski, and that is more than enough to kick your ass" are all the set up for (and part of the answer to) "am i still doug eiffel?"

#wolf 359 #w359 #it's about accountability but also about inevitable change and the willingness to learn from the past #and change for the better #holding those maybe contradictory ideas in your head #that we can't escape who we are. the limitations of the self or the people we've been in the past. but also #that there's no permanent state of self we're bound to #that the self is a constant negotiation of presentation and communication with others and can't exist in a vacuum #but also that it is about inherent worth and self-defined and self-named #i think that line is so interesting. 'we can't just change who we are but we get better.' #because depending on how you interpret it it either supports or contradicts this philosophy #and i think the difference in how hera interpreted it vs how maxwell might've meant it is part of how they misunderstood each other #and why it's an idea that stuck with hera and that she returns to. and feels like it was a lie. after maxwell betrays her #but that's another discussion maybe. #and also of course. the significance of names in wolf 359. but that's a whole thing on its own too.

[furious-blueberry0]

Hey, am I the only one who does not like the idea of Luke's new Jedi order allowing romantic relationships, marriage and having kids?

Like, George Lucas even said that the reason he did not give Luke a love interest in the end was because Jedi do not marry? And he even gave us a clear example of what happens with that in the Prequels?

I just don't understand this whole "Luke's Order was better because people could finally love" or "That's why the old Order fell"

Yeah sure buddy, they ceartenly did not fell because they had a freaking Sith Lord as head of the Republic who orchestrated one of the greatest evil plans the galaxy had ever seen, no no no, they fell because they didn't let Jedi to marry. sure.

The Order had the rule of non attachments for 25,000 years, and it's a rule that makes sense, we even saw what happens when Jedi form attachments and are unable to let go.

So I don't understand how a new Order without this rule would be better than one that survived for that long with it.

#I know that this idea comes from Legends #and it's one of the reasons why I won't read anything related to the New Order there #but I think it also comes from the idea that if you're not in a relationship you're incomplete #there are people who cannot comprehend others being happy without a partner #and so they try to always give one to characters that just do not need that #please if you want to start a discussion be civil #every insult will be blocked immeadiatly #luke skywalker #pro jedi #jedi order #jedi philosophy #star wars #jedi love #jedi #new jedi order

[rearranging-deck-chairs]

new theory on what The Boundary is: the doctor's body just does that

#been reading pasteur abt............spontaneous regeneration #and been thinking abt communication #in the way of wormholes #listened to this philosophy podcast a while ago where they were discussing how the universe couldve come from nothing #and the host jokingly suggested that what makes a universe spring from nothing is maybe not an attribute of that which universes come from #the void or........whatever #but instead an attribute of /universes themselves/ #in other words things /can/ come from nothing. but the only thing you'll get is a universe #only universes can come from nothing #he didnt believe in his own suggestion but i havent stopped thinking abt it #and idk enough abt philosophy or science or cosmogony to ruin this really fun concept for me

[anaalnathrakhs]

i feel it's so fucking stupid and ungrateful but it still hurts a little when someone gifts me something i just don't like. i don't know. i know it's dumb and inaccurate to astrain that much meaning to a simple gift, but it feels kinda like they don't know me. i guess it feels like people don't see me, like a reminder that the person i reflect and the person i feel like are incredibly different.

#two fairly recent examples jump to mind #last year my class did a secret santa #the guy who got my name barely knew me so instead he asked our litterature teacher for tips #i was doing an effort to participate a lot in her classes and discuss stuff and i felt like she was an adult i could really trust #and adult who Gets It #and she picked just. the wrong gift. a classical philosophy essay. #stuff i hate reading. stuff i hate thinking about. #i said thank you to both of them and tried to read it during christmas break still. but i was right. i hated it. #and this year's christmas #recently i tried patching things up with my parents and we are a lot more communicative now #so they've opened up that my demand not to receive any gifts was painful to them #so we had an agreement: we write open-hearted letters to each other on christmas. #and they can gift me something if they'd like but no pressure if they don't find anything they feel would be a good gift #bc i myself opened up about the whole ''inaccurate gift'' thing being one of the reasons i dislike receiving stuff #and guess what. christmas comes. they got me a printed card from an artist whose work we saw at a local art thing earlier that year. #that artist does mainly either plants or nice architecture. stuff i love. #they picked the ONE work of hers that doesn't look like that. some reinterpretation of the great wave of kanagawa #a piece which i dislike with a passion for aesthetic reasons #i had promised i'd be honest if their gift missed the mark but tbh i couldn't. it's just an aesthetic thing it's completely begnin. #it's not like they spent lots or tried to pick something that was USEFUL #so i smiled and the picture is hanging with other stuff in my room #and i thanked them and i can't express how genuinely glad i am we have a better relationship #but man i felt my heart break a little under the tree in that moment #idk #i know it's silly but it makes me feel weird. and cold. #broadcasting my misery #vent

[onesunofagun]

This is probably a wildly unpopular thing to say, but I see chatter and takes concerning Hyrule and the Hylians and Hylia where the fandom dissects them as white European, or more often British coded. I've seen it be argued that this is because of surface level European (like Greco-Roman and Celtic) aesthetics are commonly used for them, though these are pretty shallow wrapping paper at best in game. Not that similarities can't be drawn! I'm saying this with all my Irish distaste for Britain! But it seems to be more of a symptom of ignorance or unfamiliarity with Japanese culture and history, and its own tilt at Imperialism.

Which I get! The average Western Fan's closest touchstone to Imperialism is likely Britain.

But Hyrule represents Japan. It's narrative is deeply rooted in Japanese Shinto beliefs regarding the relationship between man, nature and spirits-- including spiritual purity and impurity-- as derived from Buddhist concepts. Hylians are a fantasy race of elves who are Japanese coded, their Royal Family and Imperial structure and attitudes reflect a Japanese Nationalism that is deeply tied to Shinto. Hylia reflects aspects of the Goddess Amaterasu and her role as a progenitor of Emperors in Japanese myth.

I fully understand that many criticisms that apply also pertain to British Imperialism and their own Divine Hegemony, which is valid. But I think it's also falling short to critique and dissect the meta and intention behind this franchise without bothering to have the context of Japanese beliefs and history, and without bothering to really seek it out.

JP Imperialism formed as a response to the Western encroach and their subsequent focus on forced unification of the east in order to defend against it is deeply reflected in how Hyrule operates. The localisation of games like SkSw and TotK have wildly missed their mark in the impression that they give of certain concepts to especially the North American audience, and entire concepts and references to cultural beliefs and history (and what they might imply within game) are simply invisible to many who do not have that context to connect back to.

And I'm not trying to say that what anybody takes from the story they personally received isn't a valid impression based on their own experience with the games and media around them. There are many interpretations and themes that you can take away and play with.

But I don't think that saying Hylians are just white people coded or following Christianised themes or 'basically Britain' and calling it a day is quite good enough if you want to meaningfully and accurately discuss and dissect the narrative and intent of the Zelda franchise. Being able to critically read it with both external and Japanese context is really important in having the full conversation about what it reflects on real world history, religiosity and nuance.

#shut up hero #And yeah I've been in the fandom since the 90s like I'm very aware that the eldest games had some particular Christian imagery #like that one illustration of Link praying to a cross and the presence of a 'bible' in game #as well as a connection to the idea of foreign knights #borrowed European religious symbols (and even other ones) was pretty par for course to see in Japanese fantasy and RPGs at surface level #there's really no depth to them beyond implying the vibes you know? #the og LOZ was inspired by Miyamoto exploring the forest behind an Inari Shrine #same shrine inspired starfox tbh #Ganon as was recently discussed is based on Cho Hakkai and Ox King in Journey to the West #but it's always been Shinto in approach and philosophy since the beginning #SkSw era forward has just made it undeniably more JP nationalist in shape

[ourdreamsareneon]

it's crazy the level of discourse there is about antis/pros and how teenagers just devolve into purity culture so quick. I'm sure I used to be like that, but somewhere between dating gang members and reading copious amounts of philosophy the world became a lot more gray to me when I entered my twenties and I've realised three things that I think are important for teenagers to know:

To quote my favourite childhood book series: "People aren't either wicked or noble. They're like chef's salads, with good things and bad things chopped and mixed together in a vinaigrette of confusion and conflict." Sure, going to car meets, selling drugs, drunk driving, stealing cars, playing chicken with cops are all examples of bad things that you shouldn't do but am I going to sit in my lovers bed and tell him that this life he was born into that saw all his friends die in drive bys and that saw his own dad pull a gun on him when he was a kid makes him a shitty person? Even though I can see all of the good in him, and can tell he doesn't want to do this, I should ignore it and focus on the negatitives? We have all done bad things, we all do bad things, and we all will do bad things. It doesn't make you a bad person.

Purity culture hurts everyone. There's a great book about this called the History of Sexuality that delves into how purity culture and the censorship of sex is at its essence the capitalist authority controlling the means of reproduction. At large scale 'pray the gay away' and 'contraception is a sin' make it so that men and women couple up more (instead of same sex coupling) and have unprotected sex. On a smaller scale 'AO3 is evil because it has pedos' and 'watersports is the grossest thing ever' do the job of the capitalist authority on a more digestible level. Us vs Them no longer is 'alt right vs communism' they use your words to make it 'pure good hobest people vs pedos who like piss play.' you are making bullets for your enemy and handing them your own damn gun. I promised I wouldn't make this whole post this one point tee hee sorry if you want me to elaborate just ask lol

Fetish ≠ real world experience. I'll build my own pyre as an example: I love me some good CNC (consensual non-consent) in my fanfics but in real life sex I have a praise kink so bad I have cried during sex multiple times. I am into tooth rotting sweet stuff and the kindest people in the world in real life. The media you consume 1000% has an effect on you, I'm not arguing that. I am however arguing that if you have media literacy and know what media is and is not harmful to you, it shouldn't effect your real life drastically unless you have other shit going on. I know this is rich coming from the "I have dated people in gangs" guy because that may show what kinda guy I'm into but prommy that's not a sexual attraction thing, it's 100% a lifestyle thing that again I will elaborate on if you want. Point being, porn ≠ reality and what gets that blood flowing isn't necessarily a reflection of how good or bad you are (ofc there are kinds of porn that are bad but that's beside the point and a very complicated thing for me to type while I'm this sleepy)

thank you for coming to my ted talk. pls I am begging on my knees for people to stop having black and white world views but i also know that's just a product of being a teen so if you are a teen pls! go out there and! consume media from different cultures and people with different lives to you! the world is at its best when it is wide!!! and full of love <3

#im on a recreational drug rn and u get brownie points if u cn guess which one #also i say lover but very much ex lover #it wasnt messy or anything we just #idk #atopped #ANYWAY this was inspired by tiktok beef im having with a (i think) 16 year old #about #heartbreak high #so you get put in that tag #i was saying i want a chook centric fix it fic bc that would be cute #and i accidentally forgot yall teens werwnt here for hannibal #and didnt read asoue when you were 10 #cause likw i was fully shipping the man antagonist with the sister of a guy he murdered #among other bad things #shipping discourse #fanfic discourse #fanfic discussion #philosophy #im too high man it took me way too long to type #iwanna be in the bush on md at a lil rave wouldnt that be nive #sorry #bye #love you #stay safe #xoxo

[veone]

I personally enjoy fight club because it’s very interesting to watch the physical and mental self destruction of person trying to find a purpose in life when they don’t desire the typical traditional american ideal life. To see the descent into delusion.

#the narrator is a passive party sometimes he doesn’t express much of an opinion about Tyler actions and philosophies #he goes with it no questions asked until a point were it’s to late #I’m thinking about the scene where the narrator is at work in the movies when he forget he left the original copy of the rules of fight club #in the copy machine at work and in the movies it goes the same #just the mood is diffrent the boss is bemused not necessarily annnoyed he think this is funny he’s mocking him a little like dafuq is this #is this your lol and the narrrator goes on his rant about shooting the building and halfway through he’s bored with the edgy response and is #not just questioning why does Tyler need this again? #I found that so interesting it was the first time he really had a question for Tyler because I’m seeing this as a big betrayal because when #the other fight club pop up he’s genuinely confused as to how in the hell he found the time #I’m still enjoying my read #I just want to add this comment and sentiment to the fight club discussion on here because 👀 I wanna discuss it! it fun #fight club #fight club book #fight club 1999 #will come back and edit the tags

[thatscarletflycatcher]

I have been trying for days to find a topic for the "paper" I need to turn in for this Philosophy of History course on Friday, and I got nothing.

I so intensely dislike this subject you cannot imagine.

#This is the main reason I didn't take it the first time around #because they told me back then it wasn't required #and I had no interest in it #unlike most other branches of philosophy #it's constituted mostly by Prussian Philosophers #writing theories about history where of course Prussia is the pinnacle of humankind #theories that have the randomness of Tumblr shitposts without any of the fun #You open JSTOR and won't be able to find more than a couple dozen papers on the subject itself #and how could you #It's a discipline that has like 2-3 possible questions tops #is history linear or cyclical or something else #Does History have a purpose (so is there a providence) or not? #And that's pretty much it #By the point you are asking the question about the subjectivity of historical narratives you are talking about hermeneutics #and therefore philosophy of language and the mind #My frustration is not helped by the fact that the professor herself has taught very little #most of the classes have been presentations by freshmen classmates whose interpretations are understandably very basic and tentative #so the fact that she's asking for this without specific guidances is adding insult to injury #but wait there's more! #she intends the papers to be read collectively and peer discussed and evaluated #grrrr #Anyways if you need me I'll be on the pit of despair

[mint-corset]

Sometimes I find a YouTube video recommended to me and I'll like the idea of it but something will bother me, but it feels wrong to really hate the video for it. In this scenario, the video was about the infantilization of women. And like nothing said was really wrong but it just felt odd to make it a woman issue, the things mentioned. Things like people using phrases like adulting because it's a digestible way for millennials (in this case that's what she was referring to and the studies she references uses) to approach being an adult because things like finances and milestones are harder to hit now.

This lines up. I fully do think that the growing lack of ownership and wages not reflecting the growing price of living has caused a phenomena like this, but I kept considering how this isn't just a woman issue. If this is happening it's affecting literally every young adult - adult alive in the west right now. But like the premise and title is about women so who am I to be bugged by it.

Y'know? It isn't like the YouTuber is really obligated to talk about men going through similar mindsets.

#i also didnt finish the video I got most of the way through and I sorta got sick of asking to myself #“yeah I wonder how men are handling these things” #but knowing it would likely not be addressed because the video is about women and again that isnt wrong #I guess I'm just more interested in less targeted philosophy discussions #because I just don't really gain anything from only observing how one group is reacting to events #i like a full scope #if I know how others are handling a situation I think I might be more helpful and understanding

[iris-nonsense]

Clearly higuruma is incredibly tired of his job because it's demanding both mentally and emotionally and he probably rarely succeeded because of the japanese system. And so after years of this he found himself in front of the abyss and he looked into it but he stared for too long and the abyss looked back

#if no matter how hard you try the system is always against you and your beliefs then it's understandable that you would eventially give up #but higuruma you can still go back to your ideals you just need to help yuuji #sorry for the nietszche quote but this is literally it like this is the closest the series got to his philosophy when discussing nihilism #if higuruma comes out of the other side with his ideals back i will go on a tangent about nietzsche btw #iris reads jjk #jujutsu kaisen #jjk manga spoilers #higuruma hiromi

[gothamcityneedsme]

thinking about the arkham series again and how i actually just adore that 3 games are about arkham as a philosophical concept and an entity, as an answer to "what should be done to criminals" and a powerbase. and how it reflects the beliefs of those who created it.

then arkham dies in City. the idea of arkham comes to its natural, intended, solution. bombed to ash, the problem it was built to solve barely impacted in the long run. a failure of its whole philosphy.

Then Knight rolls around and in marches in jason, arkhams final victim and the only remaining shard of it, the symbol on his chest and arkham in his name. and he brings his own whole philosphy to it all, a much more personal and visceral thing.

#Shitpost #the only major flaw for me in the arkham series is that Ras and the League's plotline in Knight fucks with the themes. #they like. Forgot that City and Arkham in general relies so strongly on Ras as the creator of it. And they just kinda drop him #instead of continuing to discuss that philosophy #its so strong in City and in Origins it feels so odd to disappear #but i get it like. They wanted to do other villains. Different things #from a step back over time looking at the series as a thematic whole it is a slight falter #but really i cant complain fully #Arkham exists in Knight with only its final victim #The jason of Knight is not as like. Idealogically motivated and thats something I find so compelling really #it IS anger it IS power it IS suffering. #but then it all falls to ash because at the end of it all. bruce reaches out his hand #and has no intention to continue the violence of arkham #and i suppose that is a good conclusion to it all

[longagoitwastuesday]

I love the Goncharov meme conceptually. It feels like classic academia perhaps, definitely like studying ancient philosophy at times. You get a fragment (knockoff boots), a general context (Martin Scorsese films existing), and then a very long discussion about nothing starts. But the nothingness isn't entirely nothing, and there are still limits to what can and cannot be said framed by both the existence and non-existence of that which is being discussed. Hilarious, truly, and the fact itself so very interesting to analyse in so many ways.

#This feels a bit like studying and discussing presocratics or Socrate himself xD #ngl while I loved the boots thing (I had often thought about those knockoff boots‚ I found them hilarious) #I don't find the Goncharov memes particularly funny #But the concept is fascinating conceptually and thrilling to analyse in so many levels #The fact that almost every webwaving‚ even the ones about a fake film‚ have the same quotes #That basically everything said about this film is what is said about any other popular media #Is so interesting as how short media analysis falls into superficiality and miopic repetition of patterns #As is the fact that we can discuss to eternity something that doesn't exist #in a sort of Narcissus looking at his reflection on the pond situation‚ in love with our own discussion more than the thing itself #And that's a level. But it's also very interesting in how basically everyone has a very similar idea of what the film is about #How nothingness with sprinkles can tell us something‚ a lot‚ and make a ghost of a film which can effectively to some extent be analysed #It's also hilarious in how it puts a mirror‚ so to speak‚ in front of so many academic studies #How we've basically been doing this for centuries unironically and I'd say with at least a certain sense of self awareness #How this brings back studying and discussing the lost texts of Ovid or Sappho based just on what they say about them or the absence #in what they say about them‚ or what other authors say about them or how their works are wrapped around those lost texts #How it brings back the study and analysis of presocratics like Pythagoras or even Socrate himself of which we have Plato and Xenophon #but really something close to nothing considering how important those authors are as basis of the entire history of western philosophy #And yet there's honestly so much to say about them given the nothingness we have accompanied by the something! #And Goncharov memes work a bit that way #I don't know. There are really so many facets to this meme and they are all conceptually hilarious yes xD #Another but not less important aspect of this meme that I love conceptually is that #I'm a bit fan of funny lies. I adore them. Especially when constructed between several people #And Goncharov is precisely that lol #Goncharov #I talk too much #I should probably delete this later #Meme shit

[corvidinthewoods]

a new philosophy tube video came out and i have a lot of thoughts. i left this all as a comment on youtube, but i figured i might get better discussion elsewhere so im posting it here too. i put it under a readmore cause its kinda long and i dont want it to clog up ppl's dash, especially if discussion turns into a reblog chain (which would be nice!!!)

specifically this is thinking about what she said regarding gender dysphoria and pathologization and stuff

i started hrt in february 2020, so before any changes could be easily seen the world went into lockdown. i also got top surgery in april 2021, less isolated but still not especially opened back up yet

i don’t see my extended family very often just due to geography, so with covid it became even less frequent. the first time i spent time with some of my aunts after starting T, I think was thanksgiving or christmas 2021. So, at that point a lot of changes had happened and I imagine for my extended family it was much more sudden than for my immediate family and friends. That probably contributed to why gender and transition came up in conversation.

One of my aunts is fairly tall for a cis women, and she wondered why people choose transition over a different way of being their agab. she shared a memory of hers from growing up, how she felt like she wasn’t Correctly Female because of her height. But at one point she joined a tall womens social group, and was actually only just over the minimum height requirement. There, she was actually shorter than most of the other women and it helped her feel better in her own womanhood.

That’s a very nutshell retelling of it, but her full explanation sounded to me just like gender dysphoria, based on both my own experience and on what i’ve read of the experiences of others. It wasn’t the point of her question so I didnt bring it up, but it did (and obviously still has) stuck with me

Later, I went into a trans-focused discord community and asked others whether they thought cis people could feel dysphoria. The consensus from answers i received was ‘no’, and that surprised me.

For a while now I’ve also been feeling that the line between ‘cisgender’ and ‘transgender’ is a false binary, just like with the male/female binary.

I’ve recently been going back to Contrapoints videos, and in one of them she talks a bit about how her conception of gender and transness has changed, particularly with regards to trying to categorize it. She said her current mindset was that some things about human existence are just irrational, and will always defy attempts to group them. So rather than endlessly try and make them make sense, it’s better to just accept them.

I feel like this could apply to gender dysphoria, if we approach it in the more linguistic sense like when Abby Thorn used the word to summarize her feelings when someone asked “how are you”. Sometimes when a person is feeling dysphoric, the solution is adjusting her view on tall womanhood. Sometimes the solution is taking bioidentical hormone therapy. Sometimes it’s hormone replacement therapy, sometime’s its surgeries to change sex characteristics like breasts or genitals. Sometimes it’s just a feeling that we have to cope with and eventually let pass, like nervousness or sadness. There’s no way to systematically decide ahead of time what the outcome of ‘feeling dysphoric’ should be, and when you try to make that system you can end up with the clusterfuck going on in the uk.

#crow.txt #trans #transgender #philosophy tube #dysphoria #gender dysphoria #discussion #transition #cisgender #pathologization #uhhh what other tags could i use to find ppl to talk to #actually this might be eno0ugh i think tumblr only uses the first several anyway

[weirdnerdygoat]

I'm doing far too much introspection lately, can't i just go back to calmly reading fiction?

#Seriously the past few months how i viee myself changed so so much #Obviously becoming a goat is one #Joining tumblr in and of itself was revolutionary (so queer. So leftist. So ahsjsj) #Philosophy summer camp as well as engaging in more philosophy content as a hobby surely didn't help #All the while I'm applying all my current and new knowledge of psychology to everything #Then i like realise some shit about my orientation (not saying them now bc i need to discuss everything properly with my amazing gf) #then i become plural which is like huge #Then I realise i sure have a lot of adhd diagnostic criteria/traits #Plus other gifted kid school and perfectionism reflections :3 #Now I'm analysing my gender #And gender in relation to alterhumanity in both my types (goat + genderweird dude that lives in my head now) #Also got a girfriend just before all of that so that's probably a big deal #Also reconnecting with my spirituality in bursts throughout #It's been HECTIC

[valerieismss]

God I hate atheists who major in phirel like SHUT UPPPPPPPPP I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!

#this is about someone in my philosophy of religion class genuinely like #girl you are dumb. #everything she says is obnoxious and inane #like why are you here girl. actually. #none of your contributions to these discussions are good. #she wildly misinterprets the things I say… #girl I did not call agnostics cowards let’s be fucking serious #I know she hates me too #good! #I’m not even a theist guys like #sometimes atheists are fucking annoying keep that shit to yourself oh my goddd #ughhhhh like #ugh. atheists are fine. it’s just the ones in my phirel classes that love to play devils advocate #I’m a reasonable and sound person who just can’t conceive atheism as a living hypothesis is that really so bad. #god. #the tension in this fucking room..class has not started it’s just me and like four other people #goddddd #guys I hate her #all of her inputs are like #well what if I don’t care about the god question. #girl SHUT UP!!!!!! #SHUT UPPPP THE ARGUMENT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR YOU!!!! #WE ALL KNOW THAT BE SO SERIOUSSSS #valerieisms