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kuj0goth · 1 year
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Watching gotham. Fixed oswald 😍
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railroad-spike · 1 year
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dc-polls-not-the-og · 1 month
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charliethedino-12 · 1 year
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Gotham??? Yeah, more like autism! Am I right or am I right?
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alexjcrowley · 1 year
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Oswald Cobblepot watches NBC Hannibal wishing it was him and Edward
"What if you were autistic and worked with the police and I was a murderous cannibal in love with you🥺🥺"
"Oswald, all of this is already true"
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zer0expektation · 1 year
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Gotham characters & their respective disorders/neurodivergencies (canon and headcanon) (& whether or not they'd actually qualify for an insanity plea based on this):
First and foremost: Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one. For this particular post we will determine based on the M'Naghten rule and the Irrisitible Impulse test.
"The "M'Naghten rule" was a standard to be applied by the jury, after hearing medical testimony from prosecution and defense experts. The rule created a presumption of sanity unless the defense proved "at the time of committing the act, the accused was laboring under such a defect of reason, from disease of the mind, as not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing or, if he did know it, that he did not know what he was doing was wrong."" "The test is bifurcated into two components, (...). First, a defendant is deemed insane if they were incapable of knowing what they were doing at the time committing the object offense." - "The second component of the test looks to determine if the defendant knew that his or her actions were wrong. Here, even if the defendant knew what he or she was doing, he or she is deemed insane where he or she was incapable of recognizing the wrongfulness of the action committed." "Under the "Irresistible Impulse" test a jury may find a defendant not guilty by reason of insanity where the defendant was laboring under a mental disease or defect that compelled him to commit the object offense." Link
tldr / an easier way to digest: our determining factors will be;
whether or not a character would be "in control" during the time of the crime (if they weren't mentally present, or believed something else entirely was happening because of delusion or psychosis) - ex. Humpty Dumpty (in DC)
whether or not a character would be able to determine the morality of their actions during the time of the crime (ie. they believe they had to/had no other choice because of delusion (believing God is telling them that they have to kill someone) or think that they were "saving" someone(s)/themselves) - ex. (some versions of) Poison Ivy and her belief that the world would be better off without humankind
whether or not they could control a compulsion that would be of cause - ex. Victor Zsasz's compulsion to add more tally marks and thus needing to kill more & having to kill someone if a tally is "incorrectly"/"wrongfully" added (at least in his depictions in both the Arkham games & the Telltale games)
(Please keep in mind that I am not qualified to properly "diagnose" these characters nor am I in any way trained to know anything about actual prosecution laws, I just think the insanity defense & psychology as a whole are interesting.)
Anyways, with all of that in mind:
Bruce Wayne:
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (headcanon)
Autism spectrum disorder (headcanon)
Post-traumatic stress disorder (headcanon)
Avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder (semi-canon - it was mentioned that he had some sort of ED through most of s1, which, esp with his autism, would have affected his eating habits for a time)
Five (514-A):
Dyscalculia (headcanon - idk why I just think it makes sense (i also didnt even think about this when deciding, but it really makes his name all that much more tragic lmao))
Selina Kyle:
Willis-Ekbom disorder (aka restless legs syndrome) (headcanon - particularly post-paralysis)
Jim Gordon:
Generalized anxiety disorder (headcanon - I just think the constant itch to be chasing something and "stopping the bad guys" could be related to a near-constant anxiety of not doing enough)
Harvey Bullock:
Alcoholism (canon I think?)
Oswald Cobblepot:
Borderline personality disorder (not canon, but iirc Robin has said that he likes the hc)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea - is known for being manipulative and driven by his need for power, and despite being rather impulsive can be relatively predictable and reasoned with - might be able to get an insanity plea anyway seasons 2-4 if not solely because of his power and the corruption in Gotham (but probably on a more real basis in s4 more because he would probably be unshakeable in the insistence that Martin was actually alive despite several witnesses stating that he killed him)
Edward Nygma:
Autistic spectrum disorder (canon)
Otherwise specified dissociative disorder/psychosis (semi-canon - hc osdd type 1)
Substance-induced psychosis (canon - s3 e15)
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (usually canon for all versions of the Riddler, but I'm not sure if it's actually canon for Gotham specifically) (+ ocd and autism tend to be comorbid)
Narcissistic personality disorder (semi-canon?)
Dermatillomania (compulsive picking at your own skin) (headcanon - no real reason outside of the fact that I'm autistic (and might have ocd?) and I have this & I like to project onto Ed)
Realistically could qualify for an insanity plea - if he played his cards right / could prove that he was dissociated when committing the crime - probably less likely to get it in s2, but still could if he tried
Butch Gilzean:
Bipolar disorder (canon - hc BP-II (he experiences hypomania rather than mania))
Dissociative fugue (headcanon - particularly after his death)
Realistically would (probably) not qualify for an insanity plea - the only way he could is if hes charged for something from while he was Grundy (he'd really have to play his cards right & get a good lawyer)
Barbara Kean:
Bipolar disorder I (headcanon - overall I think the way she is isn't because of her bipolar, rather that she acts like that because its more freeing and fun - instead during some plot lines (end of s1 & her death and being revived by Ra's and her entire arc post Ra's's death) could be broken down between depressive episodes and manic episodes quite easily)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea
Ivy Pepper:
Depersonalisation disorder (headcanon - I just think that the rapid aging thing in s2 & all of the shit that happened with her parents)
Autism spectrum disorder (headcanon - her being described as "creepy" or unnerving throughout s1, her special interest in plants, her everything in s3)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea
Victor Zsasz:
Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (headcanon - i think though in this version his tallies exist as less of a compulsive need, and instead as a self-reminder and physical proof that he can fulfill as promised)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea
Jonathan Crane:
Psychosis (canon)
Panic disorder (headcanon? - i mean it just kind of makes sense esp for this version of the character)
Epilepsy (headcanon)
Realistically would (probably) not qualify for an insanity plea
Bridgit Pike:
Pyromania (canon)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea - unless arrested quite quickly post-Indian Hill
Jerome Valeska:
Trichotillomania (compulsive hair-pulling) (headcanon)
Dermatillomania (compulsive skin-picking) (headcanon)
Histrionic personality disorder (headcanon)
Night terrors (headcanon - particularly when he was a kid, then they came back after he was revived)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea - could still get it for plot reasons as a "not" Joker character
Jeremiah Valeska:
Exploding head syndrome (headcanon)
Avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder (headcanon)
Antisocial personality disorder (semi-canon i think? - im pretty sure in the show he just says that he's "always been insane" or some shit, but that's not really a thing soo)
Realistically would not qualify for an insanity plea - shown to be far too calculating - could still get it for plot reasons as a "not" Joker character
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shyjusticewarrior · 2 years
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cowchickenbeefpork · 2 months
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Men like Edward Nygma - Cowchickenbeefpork - Gotham (TV) [Archive of Our Own]
heyyyyy....*twirls hair* look what i got for you guys to read and devour i totally didnt write this i totally didnt im normal im normal
on a serious note though tell me what you think! ill try to write more fanfic stuff soon as well lol i dont want my ao3 account to only have one work to its name
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just-an-enby-lemon · 1 year
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Do I have hobbies or do I just live of doing picrews of Eddie, Babs and Bruce in Unburied (my autism squad)?
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Picrew link:
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hiero-green · 1 year
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ALSO I FINALLY GOT MY HANDS ON RIDDLER COMIC TODAY GEGEHEHGEHEGE
i know we already know this but my god. he’s so Autidm. so so much. MINOR out of context spoilers below the cut, literally not even panels or anything i’m just mentioning a couple lines from it
first off ed being called “rain man”. yes the guy who called him that is an asshole and is also an asshole for calling him that BUT it’s still literally comparing him to another autistic character.
said asshole also saying to ed “if you […] could, like, talk to people” hello. and when he tried to be nice and smile on the train and he just creeped the woman out????
to himself: you could have tried to make a connection. but you didn’t. because you are incapable. because you are a fuckup!
and the depression and anxiety and suicidal thoughts of course but the most damning /pos piece of evidence, “I can’t help that I’m different. I can’t help that I was born.”
if paul is aware of how he’s writing riddler then god….. kissing him on the cheek
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eddienashtonn · 10 months
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there’s something so autistic about the riddler as a character. the frustration of having no one really see you, the need to prove yourself smarter and cleverer than all of them to make up for the fact that you could never fit in with them, the compulsive joy of forcing others to play by your rules, the obsession with truth and answers, the comfort of having your own space where you’re in control, the fear of inadequacy, the isolation and loneliness, the need to be acknowledged in your reality to be satisfied but never able to reach that satisfaction.
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kuj0goth · 11 months
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More of my riddler!!! Be nice to him and you can be friends :) he likes coffee and playing sudoku in a big blanket
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railroad-spike · 1 year
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"I knew, I had talked to the creator of the show, Bruno Heller, for a while. Well, actually, it wasn't necessarily a conversation, I was on the phone and I just listened for 15 minutes, and, like, scribbled onto a legal pad every word that he was saying. Because, we didn't have the script ahead of time, and all we had was the first script, and I had like one scene that was gonna last for like 25 seconds, and I'm like 'how the – am I gonna build a character off of this? This is insane.' You know, like, if you have a theatre script or a film script, you know, it's like the entire canvas is in front of you, and you're like 'alright, that's what it looks like, that is the trajectory of this character, and now i get to like fill in everything else' but I'm like, looking at a canvas, I don't know where the end is, and it's like a little ink blot right here, and I was like 'I don't know what to do with this.' So I was like 'Bruno, you gotta help me out here' and he was like 'well here's what we're thinking of doing with Ed' and it was, he talked about, having me look up autism and aspergers and, like, what those qualities are in a human being, and what it's like to have difficulty with social eptitude[sic]"
Cory discussing the physicality of playing Edward Nygma. Conversations with Robin Lord Taylor and Cory Michael Smithof GOTHAM
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booster-outsold · 3 months
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superheroes i think are autistic
batman (for obvious reasons)
robin (damian)
superman (the kryptonian equivalent ofc)
captain america (steve, i just feel this one in my bones)
spider-man (peter)
iron man (also for obvious reasons)
bonus villains:
lex luthor (trust me, he told me himself)
the riddler (again, very obvious)
scarecrow (obvious x4)
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oxygen-stealer · 11 months
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They just made out in the batmobile ❤️
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puzzlekinq · 1 year
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i love this picture of him. he just looks exceedingly autistic idk how else to explain it
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