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variousqueerthings · 5 months

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on aroace queerplatonic doctordonna

@foxfables just answering you here, since it's easier for me than on the replies, cos wooord count:

1. a fair amount of espeeecially aroace fans of the show have talked a lot about how we read the doctor as aroace and a lot of the pain that comes with Companions is their often moving on specifically for alloromantic and allosexual reasons (whether or not they were looking for that from the doctor, lots of examples in classic!who of companions having not-at-all that kind of dynamic with the doctor, and leaving for a romantic relationship) and how that especially comes to the fore with ten's doctor -- and we relate to that pain

2. the doctor's and donna's relationship was specifically deliberately created to be a platonic relationship, going so far as to spell it out in their first adventure together in s4 and then making fun of the idea that they could ever be read as alloromantic in any way

3. "despite" this explicit non-romantic and non-sexual framing, their story was one of deep abiding love and partnership, with the doctor occupying a similar -- if not even moreso -- position in the noble family as they had done with the tylers or the ponds, where they were deeply embedded not just in donna on her own when she was out travelling, but in her family affairs. that's the "queer" of the platonic part -- they're not just good friends who meet up sometimes but have other relationships that are higher up the hierarchy for being romantic, they build their life around each other (clarifying queerplatonic partnerships can and do also exist when one or more people within them have romantic relationships, but the point is the hierarchy -- which we see when shaun arrives too)

4. and it all culminated in a massive heartbreak for the both of them, where they couldn't be together anymore, despite both of them desperately wanting that -- donna didn't leave the doctor, the doctor didn't leave her to a life that was "better" suited to her (which the doctor sometimes has made decisions about against their companion's wishes). it was a tragic queerplatonic story, and one in which the doctor ended up dying/regenerating alone after making sure that everyone else was fine (notably, this "fine" included romantic relationships in almost every scene of that montage -- sarah-jane is an outlier)

5. this story then, was asking the question over and over: why this face? why does the universe/the tardis always bring me back to you? what is this mysterious force that's making us fated to meet this way? and for awhile neither the doctor nor donna can answer that -- the doctor constantly talks about bringing donna home to her family, her life, because the doctor is used to eventually having to go off alone, and by now donna is married and has a kid. how could there possibly be space for the doctor in that? and of course donna wouldn't be able to travel again. it's as incompatible as it always was

6. and then the story answers that question by going: donna is the doctor's family. this face came back to be with donna again. they're not romantic, but they are partners, donna's daughter, donna's husband, donna's mother, donna's grandfather, are all the doctor's family too

7. the doctor didn't need to promise a romantic/sexual relationship that they couldn't actually offer, didn't have to become someone else, didn't have to twist into a shape they couldn't, they just had to let themself stop running long enough to understand that this is the love they deserve to have

that's the power of the doctordonna in the end. this is what this doctor ends up living for, not grand battles and great destinies. just loving your best friend and being loved in return. that is the final thesis of this entire era of doctor who, and it's very aroace queerplatonic in theme

#doctor who #dw #donna noble #the doctor #the fourteenth doctor #the tenth doctor #dw spoilers #doctor who spoilers #aspec doctor #aroace doctor

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tardis-technician · 4 months

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Gabby, Cindy, and the tenth doctor are what Amy, Rory, and eleven could’ve been if they were written by someone who didn’t hate women and also thought more women should be bisexual and also thought the doctor was aroace

#I’ll absolutely elaborate on this at the drop of a hat if anyone wants to ask #this is tenth doctor comics propaganda #doctor who comics #tenth doctor comics #tenth doctor #cindy wu #gabby gonzalez #aspec doctor #paradox posts

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g1ngerbeer · 2 months

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its that time of year

#id in alt text #my art #dw #doctor who #tenth doctor #aroace #asexual #aromantic #doing my part :)#aspec doc tag #feb 14 posting

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vroomvroomwee · 5 months

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Something that often scared aspec people is being left out in the cold when all our friends eventually find partners and start families and it leaves us feeling so unimportant and like we always come second place.

But this...

It shows how capable of perseverance platonic love is. It only needs to be strong enough. People can love their best friends just as much as their families. And it can be beautiful. To see this as an aspec person gives me so much hope for the future, I hope rtd knows how much this finale means to so many ace and aro people

#doctor who #doctorwho #qpr #queer platonic relationship #ace #aro #aspec #asexual #aromantic #asexuality #aromanticism #aroace #the giggle #doctor who 60th #60th anniversary

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algolithium · 2 months

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hey it's feb 14. Love is in the air. So I turned some of the aspec flags into plague doctors.

because is love in the air? No. Miasma.

here's my tribute to the aspec community, to make this day a bit bearable, I guess. :))

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aq2003 · 8 months

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ten is aroace for this one sorry society

#human ten is actually so. different. from normal ten. i really appreciate how he's portrayed as like #this empty shell of a person. past the surface level there's just kind of nothing underneath #he isn't selfless. and nowhere near as caring. like he's fine with kids growing up to be soldiers under his watch #he is like a blank wobbly sheet of paper. factoring in reading (normal) ten as aroace and this makes the point crunch in such a funny way #dr who #asexual #aromantic #tenth doctor #aroace #aspec doc tag #10 era

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lost-tardis-room · 21 days

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i think it was yesterday but in any case happy aspec day from the tenth doctor

#doctor who fanart #tenth doctor #aspec #my art #look at the little squinker he is very squashable #i made designs for goobers of them all yesterday at like midnight hehe but its okay cos daylight savings happened so i got an extra hour of #sleep heheheheheheeeee look upon my creation

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awkward-aro-ace-princess-76 · 1 year

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Interpreting any character as aspec is fighting a losing battle cos the aspec headcanon will NEVER be the popular fandom interpretation. I can’t think of any character that is widely interpreted as aspec by non-aspec people, it only seems to be the aspec community that headcanons characters as aspec and everyone else treats us like we are taking away from “real” queer rep with our headcanons.

#it makes me so angry #Elsa from frozen is SO aspec coded but everyone else is convinced she’s gay despite her never showing attraction to a woman #Sherlock Holmes is the most aspec coded character in the fucking world and guess what the fandom interpretation is #the Doctor from doctor who is aspec coded and the show is so fucking amatonormative #just feeling sorry for myself #I wish aspec headcanons were legitimized more #aspec #aromantic #aro #asexual #aroace #ace #amatonormativity

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thatineffablewitch · 4 months

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The Doctor is such an aroace icon, especially Fourteen living with his best friend and being accepted and happy as a part of her family 💜💚🤍🩶🖤

Watching that episode and ending felt like getting an ace affirming hug. In a world where we’re constantly invalidated and pushed into allonormativity, it was so nice to see a happy ending just be healing and acceptance without any unnecessary relationships to “fix” him. This episode healed something in my queer heart that I didn’t know was hurting.

#Doctor who #doctor who anniversary #doctor who 60th anniversary #doctor who 60th specials #asexual doctor #doctor who spoilers #the giggle #fourteenth doctor #aroace #aroace character #aroace community #arospec #acespec #aspec #My post

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leikeliscomet · 3 months

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Really tired of the weaponisation of the ace and/or aro spectrums to defend Ten's treatment of Martha. Apart from the reasons that had nothing to do with him not reciprocating romantic feelings for her, being aspec =/= not understanding sex and romance. Yh, we joke about "not getting the allos" but Ten is 900 years old he knows what Earth understandings of romance and sex are by this point, plus him and Rose playfully flirt throughout s2 so he knows clearly? It's in his character. He dismisses Martha's concern about sharing a bed, sharing jokes about Martha and Frank kissing him and holds Martha's knickers when they get to her flat. This isn't a compulsory sexuality case of Martha forcing Ten into a relationship which is a trash take in itself. Martha knows from Smith and Jones that he doesn't feel the same way and actively avoids trying to make the situation more awkward. Ten on the other hand flip flops from wanting to fly solo and giving her one trip to changing his mind and giving her more. And again, are we gonna hold every other allo companion "responsible" for crushing on the Doctor or is it just Martha? Are you confused by allo characters or is it just Martha?

#Ten's asexual not clapped #this is why Black aspecs need visibility bc the community doesn't understand how #race overlaps their perception of asexuality and aromanticism #this is also why “allo privilege” doesn't work as a framework but thats other convo #asexual representation #martha jones #aspec representation #aromantic representation #tenth doctor #10th doctor #doctor who series 3 #rtd era #doctor who

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variousqueerthings · 5 months

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i feel like rtd shouldn't have given away the secrets of the ace community like that, we weren't ready to let the world know that we asexually reproduce via bi-regeneration

#doctor who #dw #doctor who spoilers #dw spoilers #the giggle #the fourteenth doctor #the fifteenth doctor #david tennant #ncuti gatwa #aspec doctor #wait im going to make a million comments about this

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tardis-technician · 4 months

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I don't think there's really any right or wrong interpretation of the doctor's sexuality, and I'll often reblog or even post just about anything as long as it's some sort of not straight, but in my heart of hearts I am an ace doctor truther.

#doctor who #the doctor #aspec doctor #paradox posts #tenth doctor #tagging them bc I see people out there fighting for their lives arguing for aroace ten #I see you and I salute you

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dansdoom · 4 months

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doctor who is an asexual icon , david tennant said it I don't make the rules

#asexuality #asexual #doctor who #david tennant #tenth doctor #aspec

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g1ngerbeer · 4 months

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