#and they defeat vecna

[mike-wheeler-ik-what-you-are]

no because for me the BIGGEST like MASSIVE byler proof is the fact that they've building that up for 4 whole ass seasons so clearly the story will develop more in s5.

and if it's supposed to be a slowburn why the hell should it end up with will being rejected?

the only outcome would be that he becomes a villain, but then the ending could not be considered beautiful.

so yeah, no fucking way byler is not canon.

#also give me will thinking he got rejected and becoming a villain #but he has a dramatic moment with mike in the finale #and when he's about to kill everyone mike says something like 'will stop' #'this is not you' #and will is like 'you don't even know me anymore and you don't care' #and mike goes 'yeah maybe it's true and I'm sorry for that but don't you dare say that I don't care about you' #'because I love you will I've always loved you it's always been you' #and then will stops whatever the fuck he was about to do and they kiss #and they defeat vecna #and queer love saved the world once again #byler #stranger things #byler tumblr #mike wheeler #will byers #byler is endgame

[evilkaeya]

I love how we as a fandom collectively went ‘nope’ after watching Eddie’s death scene and continued making posts like it never happened

#truly love that for us #I refuse to acknowledge vol2 ep2 #eddie lived and kissed steve after defeating vecna that's it #steddie #eddie munson

[kedreeva]

Eddie Munson's message as a character should never have been that he needed to stop running and fight to be a hero. It should have been that heroism can look a lot of different ways. It should have been you don't have to be a hero to have worth.

#eddie munson #stranger things #yes I am still mad #no I will not be stopping soon #but you're going to get meta tomorrow about something else #no it will not make anything better #yes it will make you mad too hopefully #also not for nothing but #Literally El's whole arc was the same thing #they tried to play it like it wasn't #but after spending a frankly bullshit amount of time #showing us how she was floundering without her powers #they dropped Mike going you're a superhero and El going Not Anymore #and then she has to get her powers back to save everyone #which like yeah okay she's literally the only one who can do that #but listen‚ look me in my eyes #she really could have used someone like eddie #to teach her that she doesn't need to be a hero to have worth #she's not listening to anyone else because they've all experienced her with superpowers #But Eddie didn't even see her defeat vecna at all #idk I'm just. the possibilities!!!!! the character development!!! #they could have had narrative parallels!!! #ugh

[thekeythief]

"You still with me, Nance?" 🥺🌈💕

#ronance #nancy wheeler #robin buckley #stranger things #the gag here is while I love the idea of Robin saving Nancy #the reality is #Nancy would kick Vecna in the balls #wake herself up #say: I know how to defeat him #and march out of the house while the rest of the gang is like ????????? #we love a capable woman #but like Jesus Nancy really do be the smartest person in Hawkins #her and Joyce should exchange notes #anyway I fucking love Nancy Wheeler with my whole heart #and Robin Buckley being in blind awe of her beautiful wonderful amazingly capable girlfriend #:)

[milf-harrington]

i wrote this in like an hour so please forgive the quality but here's some gentle steddie set somewhere in the early 90's mentions of canonical violence and trauma, but otherwise just a gentle morning scene

5:30 am found Eddie Munson on the back porch steps, watching their liver spotted dalmatian patrol the fence-line with her usual level of seriousness. Ronnie moved like a spectre in the half-light, her edges all blurred and smudged until she stopped to sniff at a weed and became solid again.

The cherry of his cigarette flared bright on his inhale as he brought his knees further into his chest, feet crossed over one another like he could trap the warmth in if he just curled up tight enough. With autumn creeping closer, the mornings were getting crisp.

Luckily, his ears were warm under both his hair and the hood of his jumper,but his legs were prickly with goosebumps thanks to his habit of grabbing whatever was on the floor. This time it was Steve's basketball shorts, the one's that used to be trackpants until he'd taken scissors to them in the summer of '88.

They definitely weren't suited for cooler weather, but they were comfortable and Eddie kind of liked the distraction the chill brought. It was harder to get stuck in memories of snapping bones and dead motors and being eaten by bats when your toes were trying not to freeze off.

Eddie sniffled without tears and wiped his nose with the back of his hand, bringing his smoke back to his lips for another drag. His hands were shaking, but it had nothing to do with the weather.

He'd dreamed of Chrissy again.

The problem with an overactive imagination, is that it could always make your nightmares worse.

After weeks of stress free dreaming, he'd wound up back in his trailer last night, but this time he'd known Chrissy's favourite song. Playing it hadn't worked, and instead the bats had come pouring from her mouth like it was it's own gate. They'd swarmed him before he even had a chance to run, breaking free through the windows and those damn vents before tearing him and Hawkins apart.

He'd woken in his and Steve's bed, in the house they bought with their shady government money, sweat slicked and on fire. His skin was tight and itchy as he'd crept out of bed, tapping the dog awake to take her outside and grabbing his smokes from the dresser.

Ronnie chose then to drop her favoured rope at his feet, head ducked and eyes flitting from between him and the toy hopefully, tail wagging. Eddie secured his cigarette between his lips so he could distract her with a scratch behind her ears, and grabbed the toy with his free hand before she could react. She'd turn it into a game of tug-o-war if he wasn't careful, and it was impossible to ask her to drop it when it took both hands just to keep hold of the thing.

The rope sailed across the backyard in a high arc, and Ronnie almost tripped over her own paws in her haste to get to it.

A few more throws later, the sky was brighter and the back door opened with a familiar wheeze behind him.

Eddie didn't turn as he threw Ronnie's toy again, but listened to Steve quietly walk closer and settle down beside him with a soft grunt.

A moment later, his cigarette was stolen from right between his fingers, but when he turned to complain, Eddie was met with a steaming mug shaped like a bear. He took it with hands that were steadier than they'd been 10 minutes ago.

Steve, meanwhile, had tucked the cigarette between his own lips like he used too when he was trying to seem cool and impressive (before they got their shit together), and unfolded the blanket he'd brought out with him.

It settled over both of their shoulders while Eddie sipped his coffee, feeling it's journey all the way down to his stomach. He watched Ronnie register Steve's presence and come bounding over.

She stopped in front of them with the rope toy swinging from her mouth, tail picking up enough speed to move her hips with it when Steve signaled for her to drop it.

Steve generally wasn't verbal this early in the morning, preferring to sign until the world felt awake enough for voices. Luckily their dog was deaf too, even if she was cheeky about ignoring signals by pretending not to see them.

Finally, Ronnie relented, dropping the rope between Steve's ridiculous old-man slippers as he passed the cigarette back to Eddie. She graciously accepted her vigorous head scratches as reward.

Eddie huffed a laugh and tapped off the excess ash, taking another drag and waiting until the dog was tearing off after her toy to pass it back to Steve.

He accepted the smoke with a smile and didn't ask why Eddie was awake so early, or why he hadn't bothered to dress warmer. Just made sure the blanket was wrapped around him properly, and pressed a kiss to his temple over the top of his hood.

Eddie sighed from somewhere deep and tired inside him and let his head drop onto Steve's shoulder, feeling it drop as he exhaled smoke towards the rising sun.

#hoh steve harrington #steddie #steve harrington #eddie munson #i really want a dalmatian but i'm currently in no position to get one so i gave steddie one instead #im imagining that they adopted her from shelter sometime after vecna is defeated #eddie wanted to name her something metal but steve didn't want her to have a weird name so they compromised on 'ronnie' #which is cute and also the name of dio's lead singer #steddie fluff #sort of #domestic steddie #my writing

[artiststarme]

Well, @carlyv is loving the angst so here is some more!

~*~*~*~

What if Steve never made it out of the Upside Down after the attack on Vecna? He tells Nancy and Robin that he’s going back to check on Dustin and Eddie and takes off back to the trailer park. They leave through the gate closest to them and think that Steve got out through the one in Eddie’s trailer. Dustin tries to drag Eddie to the gate with him but isn’t strong enough and has to leave him behind in order to survive. By the time Steve gets to the trailer park, Dustin is missing and Eddie is surrounded by blood. 

He heard the clock chimes, he knows Max didn’t make it. If she died, something had to have happened to Lucas and Erica. As he stares at Eddie’s pale face and blue lips, he falls to his knees. He failed. Steve was supposed to protect everyone and now half of the Party is dead. They didn’t even get to kill Vecna/Henry/One. He didn’t have time to grieve over his failure or the loss of his friends. Instead, the sky erupted into flames and the fallen bats came back to life. They shook their necks, stretched their wings, and as soon as their eyes fell upon Steve, he knew it was over. 

All at once, the demobats descended. They tore through the leather jacket as if it were paper, their teeth gnawing quickly into the preexisting bites on his sides. He couldn’t even scream as tails wound against his neck and limbs. He struggled but alas, it was no match against the plenitude of bats. Just like that, he was stuck in the Upside Down. 

The rest of the Party would commence in the hospital surrounding a comatose Max. They would wait for Steve, check his house, and then check Robin’s. But he wasn’t around. He was still Upside Down lying right next to Eddie.

#it could end here #or perhaps the shock from the blood loss wears off for Steve and Eddie and they survive #they're still stuck in the Upside Down but El can find them when she goes to defeat Vecna once and for all #And after being alone together for so long- the boys fall in love #stranger things #steddie #ish #steve harrington #eddie munson #ficlet

[your-stranger-halfblood-things]

Vecna: Your days are numbered

Steve: Yeah, it's called a calendar, you fucking idiot

Eddie, in the background fighting with the vines: Yeah! You tell him babe!

#stranger things #steddie #steve harrington #eddie munson #just trying to defeat vecna #vecna/henry/001

[probablybadrpgideas]

Sidequest where you tidy the GM's house and file their taxes

#RPG #Roleplaying game #Generic #meta #adventure idea #look its the only way to defeat Vecna #I didn't make the rules

[demadogs]

jonathan aint gonna fuckin die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#i see so many people think this will happen #1. this is wills final battle and hes had so much fuckin trauma and doing this to him on the last season would not give us a chance to see #him finally start to heal from his trauma and he will do this through defeating vecna coming out and byler #and 2. if we’re looking at it from an outside perspective jonathan just isnt a smart move to kill. it wouldnt affect people as much #like look at everyones reaction to eddie the ga wouldnt have that reaction to jonathan and they would wanna kill someone that sticks with us #we love jonathan but i dont think hes everyones number one favorite character on the show #steve on the other hand…………….. #i would be so shocked if he lives #byler

[will80sbyers]

wait Will is associated to tigers all the time specifically and Henry to falcons/birds spying on people ( with the chessboard too) and the game in s4 is Tigers vs. Falcons :0

#will byers #henry creel #vecna #st5 speculation #byler #stranger things #just to add to the idea that Will is defeating Vecna

[chirpsythismorning]

Terry Is Not El's 'Mama'

Let's talk about this scene.

In 4x08: Papa, as El is waking up after finding out the 'truth’ about the massacre, she has yet another flashback of her birth.

It's important to keep in mind that El has had flashbacks of her birth consistently ever since she met Terry aka 'Mama', in 2x05: Dig Dug. Though arguably, her most notable flashback occurred in 4x07: The Massacre at Hawkins Lab, which showcased her mother’s love in the moment El was born and how that memory was a a catalyst for her getting the strength to defeat Henry in '79.

And so, why? Why oh why is her flashback in Papa framed like this?:

Did you catch it?

The nail polish...

The same woman doctor currently helping attend to El at the Nina Project in Nevada, has identical nail polish to Terry in El's flashback.

Literally, back to back, they are juxtaposing these shots with this woman's hand.

This exact shot of Terry from El's flashback was also shown during the massacre, just a little bit differently with I love you accompanying it instead of Hi, Jane.

If you want to understand what exactly I'm implying here, this ask I answered a few days ago delves into why I think El's memories in relation to Terry and the Rainbow Room at Hawkins Lab have been tampered with. And the scene(s) here in this post seems to support that claim even further.

Because seriously, why else would they show us a flashback of what we're being led to believe is Terry's hand, aka El’s mom, with it being this huge moment that gives El the strength to banish Henry to the UD, only to bring back that same shot in the following episode, juxtaposing it with this woman who works alongside Brenner and Owens?

Why?

I talked about it in that original ask, but I just want to reiterate again that it really doesn't make sense for them to keep rehashing El's birth, making it more and more disjointed every time, if the truth behind it all is that Terry is simply El's mom? It only makes sense to keep bringing it to the forefront if there's still something missing/being misunderstood by both El and as a result, the audience.

I also want to add another scene in the mix, within the context of that scene I talked about most in my ask, related to Terry rejecting herself as El's mom/home, and how that also juxtaposes this scene from 4x05: The Nina Project, which includes Brenner, Owens, some guards, and that infamous third doctor (with the nail polish matching Terry)...

You might be asking yourself why? And I am clearly right there with you!

Why???

And yet, upon thinking more critically about what is believed to go down in s5, I can’t help but wonder if all of this series long build-up related El’s birth(day) memories being tampered with, and how that might have a little something to do with another certain characters widely speculated forgotten birthday…

#byler #stranger things #el hopper #willel wondertwins #willel literal twins #st theory #birthdaygate #twelvegate #let’s unpack this… #also if you’re a birthdaygate truther #let’s talk about the implications of el’s birth being constant flashback material for her… #the memory of el’s birth(day) is what gave her the courage to fight on… #remind you of anyone else…? #ITS WILL #HER TWIN WILL! #HER TWIN BROTHER WHO WAS ALSO THERE WHEN SHE WAS BORN GAVE HER THE STRENGTH TO FIGHT #AND THATS WHATS GONNA HAPPEN IN S5 WHEN THEY REALIZE THEIR TRUE CONNECTION #AND FINALLY DEFEAT VECNA ONCE AND FOR ALL

[the-angst-chronicles-fanworks]

Made myself sad here we go

Nancy, Robin, and Steve come back from torching Vecna to find Eddie bleeding out.

Between their combined first aid knowledge, they are able to stem the flow and get him out of the upside down and to a hospital, in time to save him.

Over the next year, Steve and Eddie grow close, into very good friends. Maybe something more.

Then Vecna comes back. The whole group works together to fight him. They lose.

Steve wakes up back on that day, when they first went against Vecna to save Max. He has a chance, a do-over. He thought thinks it was a silly dream at first, but everything plays out the same.

He has a year. He and Eddie fall in love. The world ends. Steve wakes up, back on that day.

Steve loses count of the loops. It’s hard to keep track, anyway, when the loop is so long. But he falls deeper in love with Eddie every time, and it crushes him when he wakes up back in 1986 and Eddie doesn’t remember

And nothing Steve is doing is working. Every time, Vecna wins. Because what Steve doesn’t know is that the only way to defeat Vecna, to end the loop, is to let Eddie die on that day in 1986.

#stranger things #steddie #steve harrington #eddie munson #prompts #writing prompts #my prompts #okay a happier ending #as a treat for those who read the tags #the reason is because Eddie has to die by bat venom and his body has to be left in the upside down #To be resurrected as a vampire a la Kas #and Kas is the key to defeating Vecna #angst #steddie angst #Steve Harrington angst #Eddie Munson angst

[thorniest-rose]

Eddie who specialises in alternative pest control, i.e. he safely catches the little critters and lets them out safely in the wild where they can’t get hurt or get into anyone’s homes.

And Steve who doesn’t want mice in his bakery but also really really doesn’t want to kill them because he’s too soft hearted and glue traps sound scary.

omg this is so cute!!!! Steve with a bakery?! That would be the sweetest thing ever... like Steve graduates and is completely over all the toxic masculinity he exhibited and was part of at school, and after everything goes to hell at Starcourt and he isn't working at Scoops anymore, he gets a part-time job in a bakery alongside his hours at Family Video. And it's just because they needed staff and he wants the extra money, not because he has any particular interest in baking, but while he's working there he quickly discovers how much he loves it and how fascinated he is by baking and being able to make pretty, delicious things with his hands that make people happy. He learns how to make all different kinds of bread and pastries, graduating to making cakes for events and weddings and doing all the sugarcraft and experimenting with flavour profiles until the bakery's sales are booming and its reputation sky-rocketing and people are coming from neighbouring towns just to buy something. And people just can't believe that king Steve of all people has such a delicate hand and can make such exquisite things, but he does, and you just know all the kids would be in the bakery and that he'd treat them all the time because he loves them so much.

And maybe after a couple of years Steve becomes head baker or maybe he opens a little place of his own. Perhaps the latter, and the place is run-down and needs a lot of work, but it's *his* and that's what matters. Except he realises he has a rodent issue, and while he doesn't want to kill all the cute little mice running around and nesting in the walls, he needs them out if he wants to run a viable business and not be shut down. He gets a recommendation for a pest control company, and he calls and makes an appointment with a gruff older man who says he'll send his nephew out the following morning.

Cue Steve standing outside the bakery the next morning waiting for him to arrive when he hears a blare of hard rock music and sees a van speeding around the corner. He rolls his eyes, thinks it's some drunk hellion, but then realises, mouth agape, that it's the pest control company. His mouth drops even more when the van parks up, haphazardly outside the bakery, and when, instead of the gruff man he spoke to on the phone, it's Eddie the freak Munson who jumps out. Eddie Munson who he went to high school with and who rocks up in a band t-shirt and ripped jeans, and tattoos across his arms and chest. Who grins at Steve when he sees him, a cigarette in the corner of his mouth, and says, "Hey Harrington, I heard you've got a problem with some pesky little critters," and Steve's eyebrow arches up and he replies dryly, "That's right. But I wanted to get rid of them, not let even bigger ones in" and Eddie thinks that's so hilarious, he lets out this bark of laughter around his cigarette and Steve can't help but laugh too, his life is so weird.

(Eddie would collect all the mice inside the bakery and in return Steve would make him a strong coffee and a freshly baked croissant, and Eddie would be telling him the entire time how it's the best thing he's ever eaten, hands flying everywhere because he's so excited and expressive, and all the while Steve is trying not to flush at the praise and trying not to stare too hard at Eddie's tattoos or his black nails or how his wild dark hair is swept up in a loose bun with loose tendrils of it framing his strangely pretty face.)

#asks #steddie #this is such a cute idea tho omg thank u anon #eddie would be appalachian in this of course <3 #maybe this takes place in a timeline where the party defeat vecna and the upside down in season 2 or 3 #and so eddie lives and steve meets him after high school #and they can fall in looooove

[cringengl]

Just thinking about Jonathan and Will's lies and what it means for s5....

#going off the interpretation that the UD is a metaphor for corruption for example in the US gov #UD=corruption=lies #jonathan and will lying ESPECIALLY WHEN HONESTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIG PART OF THEIR CHARACTERS is not only going to play a huge part #in their s5 character arcs but also in defeating the UD/vecna #byler #will byers #jonathan byers #stranger things #jancy

[ice-sculptures]

i haven't seen anyone bring this up so i wanna point out how absolutely hilarious it is that mike says that " it [defeating the evil] will be easier" if he and will were a team. friends. best friends. baby boy that is the lamest, most teenage-schoolboy-with-a-crush excuse i've ever seen to reconnect with the boy that you Definitely Do Not have feelings for. like it's okay, just say u want to kiss him, i promise he won't be mad!!!!

#mike really does not think when he's with will does he #so.....what if we were best friends again. but not bc i'm in love with you. definitely not. only because it'll help us defeat vecna :)))) #mhm. yep. that sounds believable. go mike!!!! #byler #stranger things #rae.txt

[redshoes-blues]

OKAY WAIT

So there’s weird time stuff going on and the Upside Down is stuck on the day Will went missing…

And @will80sbyers made a great post breaking down some of the weird inconsistencies about the Byers’ house and UD that makes it seem like the time things are even more strange than I thought.

Remember Flickergate? We know that lights flickering in Hawkins = lights being interfered with in the UD. And this sparked a discussion about the lights that flicker over the Wheeler’s garage, and the idea that maybe a future Will and Mike cause the electricity to go haywire when they visit that same spot in the UD.

Another thing: I’ve always wondered how Will knew to use music to save himself.

Because maybe it’s just a coincidence since Jonathan played him music when Lonnie was being a sick so it’s a coping mechanism. But!! We also know music has the power to prevent people’s minds from being attacked by Vecna. This is knowledge the Party gains in S4, which in hindsight, makes the coincidence with Will look a lot more purposeful…

So if we’re dealing with time travel into the day Will went missing, and the Party now has the knowledge of how to avoid being attacked by Vecna:

What if Will from the future is the one who saved his younger self? Armed with new knowledge about how the UD and Vecna work, and knowing the UD is stuck on the day he vanished, maybe the key to solving all of this has to do with that day? And the way Will is somehow recovered from the UD?

Remember how Will is found by someone/something in Castle Byers and it fades to black before we see who it is, and he’s there singing Should I Stay Or Should I Go?

Just saying…maybe it’s some kind of time loop phenomenon that only Will can tap into.

#I’m so!!! #idk if this made sense but that post really has my brain going… #the combo of the weird time stuff and the flickering lights is making me so intrigued #i really do think that will is the key to defeating vecna for good #and that it’ll have to do with his initial vanishing and how he survived in the ud #posted this in the tags of that post originally but thought I’d flesh it out a bit better here #recoverypointgate #flickergate #byler #stranger things #st5 theories