#and he does the same to sam

[torturedpoetemotions]

Actually the implications of John also being bisexual are so fucking tasty to me because like. OG John has no support system and no protection against the world except his own perceived strength so he learns to ferret out anything that can possibly be seen as weakness to those around him and that includes any affection or attraction he might feel towards men because nothing screams "stay in your fucking closet" like spending all your time around a fringe subculture of serial killing doomsday preppers in the Midwest during the Reagan era.

By the time he notices Dean starting to look a little too long at boys his age, he's probably convinced himself that whatever he felt (still feels but ignores) was a temporary youthful indiscretion, and of course Dean can't afford those, doesn't get to have those, he's got to be a soldier. He's got to be a better soldier than John, even.

I dunno I've just had enough conversations with family members who are loudly but somehow also mildly homophobic and yet say or do things that make me *eyeballs emoji* not to think this is not only possible but arguably likely.

#supernatural #the winchesters #spn #spnwin #john winchester #shifting my headcanon of john to the type of person who doesn't think of himself as homophobic if he ever things about it at all #and would even probably try to stop a hate crime if he saw one happening right in front of him #(or likes to think he would) #but also views his own queer desire--and thus that of others--with suspicion and contempt #like something frivolous that he simply doesn't have the luxury to pursue as a Real Man in the Real World with Real Responsibilities #and when you live like that especially due to your own choices anything that seems like a luxury you view with a certain level of contempt #so he's like 'heh must be nice to have time for boyfriends' in the most condescending and degrading way imaginable #in the same way he probably treated sam's affinity for academia #in fact i'd argue a lot of what we see from dean with regards to the way he mocks sam for certain things is probably just echoes of john #and what's REALLY crazy-making is the way most of these things dean mocks sam for early on later prove to be things DEAN actually does enjo #dean likes to read and he loves chick flicks and he gets excited about tomatoes and enjoys dressing up nice #dean learned early on that certain things were not acceptable for a Real Man from john bullying him out of doing them #and he does the same to sam #and one of the things he consistently mocks sam for in the beginning is his perceived sexuality #and sure we could just chalk that up to stereotyping but EVEN THEN that jives with the idea that #john simply put his own queer desire in a box labeled 'weaknesses real men don't have' along with idk a love of reading and salads and bein #emotionally vulnerable and sincere with people you love #and then he told Dean 'this is the box of forbidden things' #and dean the ever-dutiful son learned his lesson well

[cattoonxd]

"where shall i find rest?"

#frodo does not want to swim the ocean he does not want to fight the tide #my friend said he has the look of sadness you can only find on dobby from harry potter #he wants so badly for his journey to end #he will never be the same #the shire is saved but not for him god damnit #frodo nation rise #lord of the rings #lotr #lotr fanart #lord of the rings fanart #frodo baggins #samwise gamgee #samwise the brave #frodo and sam #lotr frodo #frodo baggins fanart #frodo fanart #samfro #samfro fanart #samwise gamgee fanart #lotr sam #lotr sam fanart #lotr frodo fanart

[ardentpoop]

for real going to cry thinking abt sam and bones

#spn #help im not joking 😭 #dean gets to relish his memories but sam's not allowed to bc it hurts dean that sam's best childhood memories dont include him #like LOOSEN UP buddy. sam learns abt and empathizes more and more w/ dean's perspective but dean does not extend that same understanding #or even the Attempt at understanding as the series progresses... to sam #he needs to be centered!!!! #it's an affront that a memory that was for dean traumatic and stressful was to sam his first taste of freedom and autonomy #and then dean can't grasp why sam wanted to get away lmao #5.16

[aranciu]

Rocky Lackadaisy 🤝 Max SamandMax

anthropomorphic animals with violent jobs and toothy grins

#also Rocky almost wears the same outfit as Sam does #i had to go over Rocky's eyebrows three times and they are still not thick enough #let's be real here Max would start hating Rocky as soon as he plays his violin or starts rhyming #i like how the first panel turned out but in the second one Rocky looks like he's a bro called Justus who studies law #or like a wolf of wallstreet fursona #lackadaisy cats #lackadaisy #rocky rickaby #sam and max #max sam and max #lackadaisy pilot #lackadaisy comic #art #myart #my art #comic #fanart #lackadaisy fanart #sam and max fanart #same hat #digital art

[phantoms-world-and-more]

What if amity park was Gotham

So amity park happened decades ago and amity park is known as a ghost town because of all it's ghost sightings

One day a billionaire bought the property of amity park, bulldosed all the old houses and started to build a city on it

However amity park is still dannys haunt, he's been there for decades and will not leave his home, he still feels the need to protect his home from the assholes destroying it

But he doesn't want to hurt anyone so he keeps sending signs and signals that their not welcome but anytime someone brings it up their fired and replaced by the billionaire

After the construction is done Danny dosen't know how to feel about it, it's not his home, these people destroyed his home and are now disrespecting it more and more but he doesn't want to hurt anyone so he just keeps sending signals telling them to leave but once again there ignored

This continues for centuries with Danny (his need to protect his home is now overriding the dislike of hurting people) getting more and more violent and nasty to the people invading his haunt

It gets worse and worse, Gotham gets polluted, crime rates go up, the poverty line increases just all around getting worse and worse

But no ones leaving

So Danny keeps getting more and more hostile towards the residents of Gotham because this is his home not theirs

The rogues happen because they were subconsciously inspired by the rogues Danny used to fight and his memories bleed into their subconscious, that's why they all share some resemblance to ghosts he knows ;frostbite and Dr.freeze/ poisen Ivy and overgrowth/ freak show and joker ect:;

So the reason Gotham is so corrupted is because it was build on dannys haunt and he just wants them gone

The neighbourhood Jason grew up in is so bad because that's dannys neighbourhood and he keeps trying to force them away.

The only reason Danny tolerates Batman is because he reminds Danny of when he was protecting his home as phantom

#fic prompt #daily prompt #dc x dp #dp x dc #Danny is gotham #DC and DP happened in the same universe #Danny tolerates batman nothing more #He does go easy on the little robins though #He dosent want to hurt the children #Danny has favorite rouges #Its poisen ive because she reminds him of sam #And harly quin because she reminds him of jazz #Danny has mixed feelings about the joker #Gotham is curropr because it was build on dannys haunt and he wants them gone #Constantine takes one step in gotham and sprints the other way #He avaoids it and only goes in when absolutly nessisary

[boylikeanangel]

henry telling joel the story of how he informed fedra about the leader of the resistance so he could get the medicine he needed to save sam, and seeing joel's entire face and demeanour change as he starts to understand who henry is and how similar they both are. joel initially not trusting henry because he's a rat, but once the full context is given to him, he tells henry it's not fair on him for so many people to want him dead for what he did. joel not questioning why henry would betray so many people for his brother, because he knows he would do exactly the same thing in his place. henry DIRECTLY making joel ask himself the question "what is more important: the world, or the one person you love? your honour, or your family? when it comes down to it, how many people will you hurt to make sure she's safe?", and you can just see that joel immediately knows the answer.

#if bill was there to make joel realise his purpose as a protector #henry is there to make joel painfully aware of the lengths he must go to to fulfil that duty #and only AFTER this conversation may i add does joel start trusting henry unquestioningly #because he knows who henry is now. he knows theyre exactly the same #and no matter what he can rely on him to keep these kids safe. theyll both do whatever it takes #god help ANY motherfuckers who stand in our way #< the way THAT has become one of the thesis statements of the show btw. thank you bill #anyways i think this episode was a bit anticlimactic in terms of dramatic stakes #but the narrative throughline. joels character development. ellies friendship with sam #it all balances out #if nothing else this show is fucking NAILING the character beats #tlou #the last of us #tlou spoilers #meta tag

[curarems]

Okay but what hair colour do you see Vimes with. Because to me he is greying and blond but calling him blond gives me immediate psychic damage and is that normal

#(no its not) #i have no problem with calling any other character blond (obv) why is he a special case #why does calling him blond sound so fucking weird in my head #same with brown haired vimes actually #actually amy hair colour vimes #but i usual see him as having blondish hair so i notice that the most #why do i have an aversion to describing vimes's hair colour #discworld #sam vimes

[shallowseeker]

Okay, before it falls out of my head. Someone on my timeline tagged a Sam post with stuff about how Sam mimes rebellion to cover up how much he wants (and fails) to fit in.

And there's this exchange between Anael/Sister Jo and Lucifer in 13x13:

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Despite lipservice to the idea of rebellion, Lucifer wants to fit, too.

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13x13 DEVIL'S BARGAIN script via @spnscripthunt

#spn lucifer #lucifer sam parallels #sam stuff #spn 13x13 #spn season 13 #i'm thinking too about how lucifer tried so hard to pitch to the angels in season 11 during the amara arc #but who does he bring out to marshall support? #CAS #lucifer doesn't fit in #cas is weird but manages to be so well-liked by literally everyone #the same is true with sam and dean really #dean effortlessly makes the connections that sam craves but struggles to build

[give-grian-rights]

did you see the statement against Majo- Ellen's actor, it's...a lot to take in

https://x.com/artistz93/status/1724168049480085988?s=46

i contemplated not posting this, but I know there's only so many other blogs that'd do so.

I am disgusted and appalled by the behavior shown in these screenshots. It is incredibly frustrating to see yet another individual come out of that sphere of people and be horrid. I was already familiar with the depravity of Yuki, and the quiet allegations posed against them.

I do not have my own experience along the same lines (much less with a creator) but I do believe that bringing some of this information to enforcement might be for the best. I understand that this is easier said than done, due to either online anonymity, family, etc., and as such respect and understand the lack of involvement with law enforcement.

I'm so fucking sorry to any of the people who had been affected by Ellen, and I hope that you guys can find some sense of closure from this. Out of my own experience with his lack of maturity and inability to reasonably approach these matters, I would like to say to any of the parties involved that I would not recommend bringing this to Sam.

While I am not saying he would support these actions, I am willing to assume he likely would not care, nor is there any responsibility he could really claim, outside of giving Ellen (and Yuki) the means to start a platform.

really fucking shitty way to end the night. fuck Ellen, Yuki, and Sam How I will go forward with YHS: I have taken a break from posting about Ellen, as both he and Yuki truly do not deserve any sort of positive affirmations regarding their past work. While I'm not sure how long this break will proceed for, any further communications involving their fictionalized characters will likely be altered, and I'll likely change aspects of their characters.

I'm not the most active or frequent when it comes to commentary and fan content involving YHS, due to quite obvious reasons. However, it's still something in the back of my brain and something I don't intend on straying far from with my fan creations. For better or worse, it shaped a part of me. Quite frankly, in ways it never should've.

EDIT: I did not feel satisfied with this my original posts as my thoughts were generally disorganized due to the fact I was beginning finales at the time this situation was brought forward to me. I also broke it up into how I will be going forward with their characters, and my message to anyone involved as I do not want to make this about me. It is not. It's about the gross behavior displayed, and I hope that everyone involved in these situations are able to move forward.

#obligatory message that im not putting sam on the same level as them. hes really gross and immature #while he was inappropriate with his fans imo (having his channel for children while also having a r* torture scene) he . to my knowledge #does not have the one-on-one encounters that ellen or yuki do. #so fucking tired and now i need brain bleach. hgg #tw grooming #tw pedophila mention #majoellen #majo ellen #yhs #yandere high school #samgladiator yhs #yhs mcrp #mika-posts

[quietwingsinthesky]

Irks me a little bit whenever Dean torturing in Hell is positioned as his own fault, or even really his choice to do. We get given the solid number, 30 years of torture for him and 10 inflicting it on other people (which was also more torture for him because it’s Hell, the torture evolves, it doesn’t stop), and we get told that wasn’t long enough. That John held out longer. That angels were going to pull Dean out of Hell and if he’d just held on a few years more, the seal wouldn’t have been broken.

But that isn’t true, right? We know Heaven wanted the seal broken, ergo Dean wasn’t getting saved until it was. Until it, and he, we’re thoroughly broken and usable by Heaven to achieve their own ends (ie to make him into a good (obedient) Michael sword.) So, it wouldn’t have mattered how long he held out in Apocalyptic terms because the game (that he didn’t know he was playing) was rigged against him.

But more importantly for Dean, the amount of time he managed not to break literally does not matter. Because it was never going to be long enough. Thirty years, forty, a hundred, a thousand, it does not matter how long he held out because the breaking itself is the unforgivable part to him and the breaking was always inevitable.

Anyway. There’s my Dean meta for the year. Eat up, I guess.

#despite this being brought out by that prev post I’m not like. actually annoyed or anything. #we’re all free to interpret the show however. I just think this way brings out the tragedy of it best is all. #you know it’s like. did Dean & Sam technically both have choices in s4? did they technically make the wrong ones? yes. #but at the same time. there was never a choice. there was never an option to avoid the apocalypse. especially with how little they knew #of what was actually going on over their heads. like. it really is insane to go rewatch s4 and realize how much they don’t understand about #what’s happening around and to them. and that’s the part I like best! it was unavoidable! they will still blame themselves forever! #what’s the thing called where you like both brothers. bibro? that’s me. #samgirl with bibro tendencies. #if you ever see me speak negatively about dean know that it’s because I love those things about him actually. #I like when he’s possessive and self-destructive and terrible. I just think. in this particular instance. this was not him embodying #a character flaw. so much as it was him being forced into his role in the story in a very like. visceral literal sense. #I could go into the Michael-Dean ‘what does it mean that of the two vessels it’s not Lucifer’s sent to hell but Michael’s’ thing but #maybe save that for another day. I have thoughts I’m just tired. #spn #dean winchester

[franklespine]

The way Dean said he was thinking of going on a drive "just me and baby" and Sam was like alright, let me pack my stuff :))))) Like... girl.... Dean literally had to be like erm.... no I was actually thinking more.... one on one time with mum... before Sam got the picture and was like alright now I know something is REALLY wrong. And he was right. He called Mary few hours later and was like idk maybe I should come over too and Mary was like yeah something's wrong but just let me talk to him dont come out just yet. Cut to Sam putting the phone down, already in the car, starts driving faster.

#supernatural #spn #sam winchester #dean winchester #s14e11 #Damaged Goods #Sam lowkey being insane about his family this season #same thing happened with jack when he got taken by Michael #no sam dont go in there alone says Castiel #yes of course sam says #cut to sam cutting off a guard's head and marching right on in there alone #I am so here for it tho #sam and dean #such silly little guys #just wow #sam gets upset about jacks death and dean is like just leave him be cas and cas does leave him be as he watches him leave #then dean is like no!!!!! i meant give him space IN the bunker!!!!! obviously!!!!!! #he can have his space..... as long as he's in the same building as me... where ik where he is at all times xx

[albeckett]

same gesture..........

#sam also does this little head scratch thing during awkward moments; he does it during the homesick line and also in roberto #its fine. like im literally fine thinking about scott bakula keeping the same tics for sam #ql #oc

[artoutoftheblue]

Swap!Solar and Swap!Eclipse anyone? :3c

#lol now Solar is the tall one with a nanomachine body #although swap!eclipse is still tall compared to other bots #hes the same height as moon #fnaf security breach #daycare attendant #blues art #blues references #tagging that bc these two are the only ones with semi-different designs #and i dont feel like making refs for them since its just their outlines #and swap!solar and swap!lunar both have sharp teeth #while swap!eclipse and swap!crimson have flat teeth like sun does #tsams eclipse #the sun and moon show eclipse #the sun and moon show au #sams au #tsams au #swap!btb au #swap!solar #swap!eclipse

[npdclaraoswald]

I fully believe that after The College Tapes Mark, Marley, Indah, and Neon form a "fucked up intense relationship with Damien that we have no idea how much of it was genuine" support group

#'but wait!' you say #'mark made it very clear in safehouse that he does Not want to talk about it!' #yes but the college tapes heavily implies that he has talked to oliver about it #whether that's due to the intervening years or oliver not being as close to the situation as sam or joan #who's to say #but the point is he is willing to talk about it by that point #and while it would certainly be more complicated than talking about it with oliver #i do think he'd find comfort in others who have been through the same thing #similar to how he's formed such a close relationship with oliver beginning on the basis of their both being tier 5 patients #mark bryant #the bright sessions #the college tapes #also yeah the idea is cheesy but tbs is no stranger to cheesiness

[sammygender]

YALL ARE NOT SERIOUS PEOPLE no way i’m looking at the tumblr tag for spn 7x03 aka the sam centric flashback episode dealing with his childhood trauma and how he feels like he’s a freak and everyone is just posting about DEAN. dean and his stupid fucking pie. dean winchester used to be my guy! genuinely! s2-3 i truly thought i was a deangirl! But you people (plus this show atp lmfao) are making me hate him😭

#he was cute witn his silly pie. and i care for him and understand he’s grieving cas and thinks he’s about to lose sam and is therefore copin #Awfully and doing things like resorting to black and white john winchester embedded monster racism to do so #But thing is i’m actually getting pretty fucking sick of him coping awfully #he never learns he never grows he just gets angrier. he’s incapable of seeing sammy as someone whose decisions can be respected despite the #fact sam literally SAVED THE WORLD by SACRIFICING HIMSELF. #he just sits around and drinks and tries to become his father and avoid becoming his father in equal amounts #he’s actually awful!! sam goes off to do a case something totally justified (tho sure he could’ve asked) and dean fucking punches him in the #face… and somehow it just Doesn’t feel haha funny because its forceful and it’s serious and this is like the 3rd time he’s done this shit #and it’s also in the same ep where we see sams fraught relationship w john (Bc Duh) which is paralleled to the relationship amy has with her #mom where her mom fucking hits her. like. #dean winchester!!! when i find you!!!!!!!! stop recreating ur trauma!!!!!!!! stop taking shit out on sam :( #he cares sooooooooo deeply and it affects every fucking thing he does that’s why he’s so awful and why he cant cope #But guess what the same can be said about john winchezter the same can be said about a LOT of people. doesn’t excuse anything dean. GET YOUR #SHIT TOGETHER. #i love dean he’s vividly compelling to me. But. :/ #oliver talks #sam winchester

[pinbitch]

this is deeply incoherent and meta but i really feel like the way fandom treats john is incredibly karmically appropriate. like, if john could somehow see the ways he’s so commonly misinterpreted as a straight up villain and used in fanfic as the convenient whumper/bad guy he’d be so horrified that his treatment of his sons lead to that impression. john in canon is abusive but he’s also complex, and he wouldn’t do a solid 90% of the things fandom happily depicts him doing. so if he could see that, if he could see all the awful things these strangers think he’s capable of, i think he’d know it was his own fault people were making those assumptions. and that’s exactly what he deserves

anyway john winchester’s hell was the “john winchester’s a+ parenting” ao3 tag and the reason he never broke and stopped his own punishment was cause he knew he deserved it

#supernatural #the nuance of john winchester is that to a certain extent he doesn��t deserve to have those nuances examined #while at the same time he absolutely does #or at least it’s more interesting to examine him #he’s so much more interesting as a loving father who failed #not to say i don’t enjoy a fic where he’s the absolute villain #but i also enjoy a fic where sam travels back in time to kill his younger self and john is unequivocally against it #yknow he is both #and being doomed to be both is what he deserves! #he did this to himself #anyway this is insane i am insane #john winchester #supernatural meta #sort of #meta #me forgetting my own tag organisation system rip