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reluctant-mandalore · 10 months

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Apparently this is a hot take, but it honestly does kind of worry me that people who worked on the Ahsoka show keep saying that supposedly you will be able to watch it without knowing anything about Star Wars Rebels. Because from what we know and have seen, the Ahsoka Show is meant to continue on with what we were left from Star Wars Rebels. It makes me wonder how much has been watered down or even retconned from it.

"New fans shouldn't have to do homework to understand a new show."

The Ahsoka show is a continuation of the Star Wars Rebels storyline. Its not homework to actually look up the start of a storyline to be able to understand its continuation. Some shows aren't always meant for new fans, and are meant to expand on something already established instead. Whether it be characters, or a story that was never really finished/left on a cliff hanger. And that is ok.

I don't think Star Wars shows or movies always have to cater to new and old fans at the same time. Of course its great that some shows can be easy to digest for new fans while also being great for old fans. I literally got into Star Wars because The Mandalorian was like this at the start. But not every show needs to be like this, especially when a show is meant to continue off from another one. Trying to do so can easily lead a show to having a watered down storyline with lackluster character arcs.

Which is exactly why there should be a balance between making shows that new fans can get into (while still allowing for older fans enjoy them), and making shows that are more meant to expand on the universe for older fans who are already familiar with it.

So yeah. I'm a bit worried for the Ahsoka show, and I'm still not convinced that making it into a continuation of SWR was a good idea rather than just making another SWR season.

If the Ahsoka show focused on her without continuing from Star Wars Rebels I would be singing a different tune (like maybe focusing on her time after tcw and before swr). That would be fine and I think it would have been a better direction to go in to get new fans into/understand her character while still giving older fans new content about her that they want to see.

Of course we won't really know until we see the show what it well be like, which is why I'm not going to sit here and completely tear into it, but man I am definitely not getting my hopes up.

#ahsoka tano #star wars rebels #ahsoka show #ahsoka series

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the-yearning-astronaut · 3 years

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Star Wars Character Age Comparison Chart

Again and again I've seen people in the writer's channels on the various Discord servers I'm in ask "how old is ____ when ____ happens?" Or "how much older is ____ than ____?" And I usually have an answer because I'm a timeline junky...

Then I thought, why not make a chart for this so that people could look it up themselves? So I did.

I know canon timelines are arbitrary and messy (especially SW, goodness) but I thought this might be a useful and interesting tool for writers and those who like making what sense they can out of the timelines.

There are 74 characters currently listed.

Instructions for use and an explanation for my thought process are below the cut. Feel free to share this post on whatever social media you'd like and have fun! 💛

To read the chart, find a character on the left side and then move across the chart to the right to find the character you want to compare them to. If the number you land on is POSITIVE, then the character on the left is OLDER. If the number is NEGATIVE, then the character is younger.

Here you can see that Han is 13 years older than Leia and Kanan is 14 years younger than Lando.

Please note: Not everyone is listed so if there's someone you're looking for that isn't there, let me know. If you have any questions, find incorrect math, or have a different age for someone (and have a source), feel free to message me and I'll update the chart.

With the exception of Eli Vanto and Cal Kestis, all characters listed come from the 9 films and current shows (TCW, TBB, SWR, TM). I've used their canonical ages as listed on Wookieepedia when they're available and when they aren't I used their Legends ages. If neither was available, I used context clues to the best of my ability to make an educated guess as to their ages (these are marked in orange). Some characters have a range listed for their age -- in this case, I picked a number in the range to use (these are marked in bright yellow).

I chose 0BBY/ABY as a reference frame because it makes the most sense and is easiest to use. If a character is 36 in 0BBY then they were born 36BBY. If they are -11 in 0BBY then they are born 11ABY. To figure out how old a character is during Order 66, subtract 19 from their age. For their age during the time of The Mandalorian, add 9. For the events of TFA, add 30.

Final note: Clone ages are given in BIOLOGICAL YEARS, not physical. For example, Rex is 13 at the time of Order 66, which is the age I have listed, though he has the appearance of someone in their mid twenties.

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helbertinelli · 3 years

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1 thing i think actually worsened Anakin in TCW was how much weaker he seemed compared to EU. Like Anakin was a Jedi considered to be strongest of the strongest Jedi even before ROTS he was arguably stronger than his own teacher Obi-wan. It also doesn't help they nerfed Dooku to high heaven while hyping up Maul

Yeah, I've noticed that. They made him seem like just a regular Jedi. Like Ahsoka basically has the same skills as he does and she's able to hold her own against very powerful foes and she was only trained for 3 years and she's not even the Chosen One.

I mean in the EU he was incredible. I remember when he fought against Durge (who was basically immortal) and won when no other Jedi were able to. Or in one SW book that I've seen passages from on here, he combusts a man from the inside out. And he can leap farther than any other Jedi, but in TCW/SWR canon, Kanan can easily do that and then some too... like he jumped over an entire canyon as a Padawan in BB, while Anakin needs to get a boost from Obi-Wan to make a jump.

Yeah, they never showed Dooku to be as powerful as he actually was. Like it was a big deal that Anakin was able to defeat Dooku. I remember in AOTC in the book they say how Dooku was basically an expert swordsman and he was basically undefeated when it came to dueling. And then he fights Anakin, who's a Padawan, one on one and Dooku is struggling to keep up because of how amazing and fast Anakin is with a lightsaber and because of how powerful he is. And then in ROTS, you can see Anakin became even more powerful. Like when he tells Dooku that "my powers have doubled since we last met," he actually means that, but Dooku sees it as arrogance because he can't understand just how powerful Anakin is.

And I think a lot of people (including TCW writers) look at that duel and they see how easy Anakin takes down Dooku and they probably think Dooku was weak. But no, Dooku was really powerful. We see that in AOTC, we see how easily he takes down Obi-Wan and he struggles with Anakin and with Yoda, but ultimately, he's able to get the upper-hand one way or another. But in ROTS, he does get rid of Obi-Wan and he thinks it'll be easy to defeat Anakin because there's no way his powers have actually doubled, but they did. And Anakin is way more powerful than the already powerful Anakin that Dooku fought in AOTC. And the duel is short and Anakin takes down Dooku easily because he is that much more powerful, not because Dooku is weak in any way. I mean he just threw Obi-Wan around like he was a ragdoll

I think people see this and they assume that Maul was way stronger than Dooku, and like maybe? But Maul also lost to Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan was a Padawan, but Dooku was able to defeat Jedi Knight Obi-Wan twice. And Obi-Wan is powerful af too.

I hate that they brought Maul back. I know it's in the EU too, but it's one of those EU storylines that should have been erased. But I bet they only brought him in TCW to give Ahsoka a powerful nemesis and to make her look like she's way strong. I hate the way Filoni assigns villains to characters but that's a rant for another time.

But anyway, they should have shown Anakin for how powerful he is, but they're cowards.

#anonymous #ask #anakin skywalker #count dooku #anakin is the most powerful jedi to ever exist #sorry i don't make the rules #when people ask who is the most powerful jedi #it's anakin duh

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azems-familiar · 2 years

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Interview with a Fic Writer

i was tagged by @sleepswithvillains for this and it looks quite fun! tagging @ipreferfiction @tarrevizsla @darthsassacre @basilissa-bastila and @darthmarrsgf for this.

1)how many works do you have on AO3?

SO. i'm doing this with my main account as opposed to just the pseud i actively post on, so uhhhh. this and the next two questions are not counting the 9-fic 470k word series i orphaned a few years ago that i occasionally check in on to see how it's doing. i have... drumroll... 104 works posted on AO3 since February of 2016!

2)what's your total AO3 word count?

2,000,622 words!

3)what are your top 5 fics by kudos?

do you love me, tcw/codywan, 2723 kudos

follow me (and i will bring you home), ST/reylo, 1495 kudos

something inside this heart has died (you're in ruins), tcw/codywan, 1316 kudos

tell the world (i'm coming home), swr/vader + ahsoka, 1291 kudos

i just wanna keep calling your name (until you come back home), tcw/codywan, 784 kudos

4)do you respond to comments? why or why not?

i respond to comments on my current fics, especially because they're pretty niche - kotor and swtor mostly - and so i don't get a lot of them, and i crave interaction. i haven't responded to the comments on a lot of my older ones because i got a lot and it simply got too difficult to keep up with - for example, dylm has 491 comments and that's a bit much to actively respond to all of them

5)what's the fic you've written with the angstiest ending?

oh god this one is difficult. probably a rogue one fic back in 2017 i wrote based off the song whiskey lullaby, which is uhhh pretty damn angsty. for the most part i don't tend to end fics with angst, so all my angst is in the middle, and Let Me Tell You What there is a lot of it! but i like healing and growth and change and resolution and happiness so my fics tend to at least end bittersweetly?

6)what's the fic you've written with the happiest ending?

uhhhh hm that's a hard one. i don't usually write explicit fluff either. probably it would be the one and only doctor who longfic i wrote way back in 2016 which ended with a wedding, which i am not linking because it is very old and not good writing and you can find it if you dig really hard.

7)do you write crossovers?

crossovers, not so much. fusions, absolutely yes, i love taking my favorite sw blorbos and putting them into new fandoms. i've got a hunger games fusion back when i wrote for tcw, there's a swtor/mass effect fusion siting in my drafts, and ofc my main project right now is a kotor/swtor/hp fusion that i am very proud of!

8)have you ever received hate on a fic?

i sure have. my very very first fanfic, which i posted on ffn, got outright hate yelling at me saying i'd clearly never watched the canon before lol. was sure an Experience as a very insecure 17 year old new to writing! also i wrote for some pretty ""problematic"" ships back in the day so i used to get shit for that, but that's a bit different imo

9)do you write smut? if so, what kind?

UNFORTUNATELY yes i do. none of it is posted yet, the only scene i've finished needs a lot more of the hp au posted before it has the context it needs, but i do in fact write smut. mostly it is full of emotions like angst and also so many horrible Dynamics, either dead dove or like, D/s shit, or what have you. vanilla sex is incredibly boring to my very ace mind and so i don't really have any interest in reading or writing it.

10)have you ever had a fic stolen?

not as such, but i have seen someone who very very closely copied a fic idea of mine once, including similar plot beats. it wasn't as well-written though so i ignored it.

11)have you ever had a fic translated?

not to my knowledge!

12)have you ever co-written a fic before?

oh god have i. i spent two and a half years writing tcw fic with @ellis-thescribbler, which was a very enjoyable time and ended in 2020. now i split my time between solo projects and a few different things i've got going with @ipreferfiction!

13)what's your all time favorite ship?

oh god this is a hard one. this is a really difficult one. it depends what hyperfixation i'm into at the moment. i still have a soft spot for codywan and rebelcaptain, but i think my favorite is probably going to end up being revalek. it just has all the dynamics i love and many of my favorite tropes are very common for it! i'm also incredibly attached to a couple of exceedingly rarepair ships that are the fault of the discord server and also AC and i interacting without supervision but the only one of those i can list is Cassus Fett/Mandalore the Ultimate. the others make me sound insane.

14)what's a WIP that you want to finish, but don't think you ever will?

i have two of these, both from my tcw days, which won't ever be finished because i no longer write with the other author involved. those would be the all i ask of you series, which is a tcw/hunger games fusion, and the other is the lullabies series, which is a huge rewrite of the latter half of tcw.

15)what are your writing strengths?

oh hmmm this is difficult to answer as i'm not very objective about my own writing. i have been told i am good at fight scenes before, and as much as i hate writing them i do feel fairly confident with them. i like to think i am decent at putting emotion into my narration and making the prose really feel like it belongs to the characters. crowdsourced from my discord: i am apparently very good at fluid prose and vivid descriptions. that is word for word.

16)what are your writing weaknesses?

i have always struggled with coming up with sideplots, and with juggling large casts of characters in scenes, both of which are being heavily tested in my novelization of kotor. i also feel like i spend a lot of time saying the same things over and over again while trying to write description, but description is Hard so

17)what are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?

well, given that i do this a lot.... i don't always go hunt down conlang words, sometimes i'll just indicate other languages by italicizing the dialogue, but i definitely do it. in a setting as varied as star wars, there are so many other languages, and especially when writing nonhuman characters i like to show that they're nonhuman in more ways than one.

18)what was the first fandom you wrote for?

doctor who, back in 2016! god but it feels like ages since then

19)what's a fandom/ship you haven't written for yet, but want to?

Shepard/Kaidan, mass effect. Shepard/Javik, also mass effect. most of my swtor ships exist in my head but i haven't actually written them out on paper yet. mostly i just want to write for mass effect in general, and also dragon age, but i need to finish the dragon age games before i can write for them

20)what's your favorite fic you've written?

i have a few! war has let this age begin (it's where we've gone and where they've been) is the first solo longfic i've written and finished in a long long time and i'm pretty happy with parts of it. it's better to love (whether you win, lose, or die) has some prose that i feel like is probably some of the best i've written, and i'm pretty damn happy with it. and, frankly, the Vader + Ahsoka rebels fic i linked above in the kudos section, tell the world (i'm coming home), which is a Vader defects fic that explores redemption and i like a lot.

finally, i have to add an honorable mention to sharing beds like little kids (but that will never be enough), for the sheer worldbuilding fun i've had writing it, and where i know it's going. when it finishes, with all million+ words that series is going to have, it's going to be my favorite thing of all time.

#things i'm tagged in #swtor #kotor #tcw #my fic #this was surprisingly fun! took a long time though lol #god some of the fics i had to link are from like 2018 #like the sequel trilogy stuff. i haven't touched those in YEARS #whoops

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ironwoodprotectionsquad · 3 years

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"my hatred of Ahsoka" - okay, you've got me curious. What's the beef?

Hey anon! Warning this is going to get very VERY long and their will be major spoilers for Star Wars Rebels (SWR), The Mandalorian and The Clone wars (TCW) so if you don’t want to be spoiled please watch those shows before reading this. Also if you like Ahsokas character please skip this because this does get salty. Obviously if you like the character that’s fine I’m just explaining my beef. Also I’ll be going into a fair bit of details to give background and context to the scene just in case you haven’t seen certain series to try and minimize confusion.

So I’ll break this down into parts because as I said I have a lot to say.

-Jedi or Not?

One key feature about Ahsoka in SWR is that she repeatedly insists that she is not a Jedi. However despite insisting she is not a Jedi she continually participated in Jedi activities, Din goes to find her to train baby Yoda, she goes with Kanan and Ezra to Malachore, the Jedi council contacts her for help even with Mandalore and she was even planning on returning to the order shortly before Order 66 happens, and during the Rise of Skywalker every voice we hear is a confirmed Jedi that is dead, BUT we also hear Ahsokas voice and Filoni himself said she’s not dead. Why is Ahsoka able to do this trick of speaking to Rey when not dead? Why is she even participating in this VERY Jedi moment and acting as a Jedi guide to Rey despite her continued I distance even in the Mandalorian that she is not a Jedi? And this is all that I remember off the top of my head. She insists she’s not a Jedi while overall trying to pretend she is one and this seems like it’s solely for the purpose of her being allowed to not die while all the other Jedi characters are brutally killed in a lazy way to explain Yoda’s line about the Jedi in the original trilogy which goes on to my next point:

-Ahsoka comes back to life when no one else can

In TCW their is an episode where Ahsoka, Anakin and Obi-Wan are trapped in this strange planet where the force seems much more powerful and the Son and Daughter live who are embodiments if the dark and light side of the force respectively. During the events of the episode Ahsoka is killed by the brother and then subsequently saved by the gravely injured Daughter who gives Ahsoka her remaining life force. Given that the father (also seemingly a manifestation of the force itself) the scene reads as the force interfering to prevent Ahsoka from dying.

In season 2 of Rebels, Ahsoka comes face to face with Darth Vader himself and goes into a battle to the death. Later on in an episode I loath with every fiber of my being “A World Between Worlds” after being forced to watch his mentor Kanan die a very brutal death Ezra finds a realm that seems to have inspired the portals in RWBY where time is meaningless and their are portals showing various events in time. Ezra finds the portal showing the dual between Ahsoka and Vader where we see Ahsoka stab the crumbling ground beneath her and Vader in attempt to save him from being killed by the holocron s blast and he raises his saber to kill her. In order to keep her from dying, Ezra pulls her out and saves her life. In this moment Ezra realizes he could save Kanan, his mentor and father figure whom he just had to watch brutally die, with Ahsoka, whom Ezra had just saved in the same manner, follows him and prevents him from saving Kanan saying that he wanted to save his family and thus wanted to die this way and Ezra shouldn’t interfere, which really to me reads as Ahsoka realizing Ezra saving Kanan via time travel risks HER then actually dying and selfishly saying that to save her own ass rather then believing Ezra shouldn’t interfere with events of the past. The whole way Kanan died also has some ableist undertones which I won’t get into which also further makes these episodes that much harder to swallow and I’ll be happy to elaborate for anyone whose curious as to why I think this. Anyways since again Loth Wolves which are again heavily tied to the force was the one who guided Ezra to this place that exists outside of time we ONCE AGAIN have the force going out of its way to keep Ahsoka alive. It’s especially frustrating since the force refused to help the Jedi slaughtered during Order 66, refused to help Kanan despite him doing what the force basically ordered him to do which lead to his death, and refused in general to help like anyone doing the will of the force which led to their death.

What is Ahsoka doing that is so important the force over and over again feels she has to be saved but no one else ever does anything that is deserving of being saved in the same way and just has to die and stay dead? Why is no other character that is a good guy ever allowed to come back and be saved like Ahsoka?

- She is being shoved into EVERYTHING

This statement may feel like an exaggeration but it’s kind of hitting a point where it’s not so much anymore. She’s obviously in the Clone Wars, she makes another appearance in season 7 despite leaving the order to figure things out on her own and again participate in Jedi business (while this is honestly an understandable return it does show a bit of a pattern). She then makes her appearance in the Rebels era acting as Fulcrum over several seasons. Her next appearance is in the Mandaloran as the Jedi Din is searching for to potentially train baby yoda (avoiding the name to avoid unnecessary spoilers). I can’t help but wonder why they threw in Ahsoka other then to tease at the Ahsoka series and completely throw off the line time and actively retcon the Rebels timeline.

For those of you confused by this, let me explain. Originally when the Rebels epilogue took place we where told it was 5 years later after the fall of the empire. However we also know the Mandalorian takes place 10 years after the fall of the empire. This is important because in the Mandalorian Ahsoka is currently looking for Thrawn and Ezra ALONE but in the Rebels epilogue Sabine and Ahsoka leave together. The original plan of leaving Ezra lost for 5 years was bad enough but now it’s been changed to 10 years and the show and description have no mention of Sabine and is all about Ahsoka.

Rather then using a character that wouldn’t mess up timelines or even just in general let us find out other characters fates instead Ahsoka is used and at times it feels like people think she is the ONLY animated female character to exist in all of Star Wars. Why not have one of the Padawan from the clone wars be Fulcrum? Why couldn’t say Ventress or Cal be the Jedi Din searches for? Why couldn’t Kanan be allowed to live and be the one to search for his Padawan? Their are just so many options to give other characters a chance to shine but over and over again it’s given to Ahsoka.

I know she’s a very popular character and most people would disagree with me, and that’s fine these are just my frustrated and pissed off opinions. Feel free to disagree with me it’s just my two cents after all.

#Ahsoka salt #SWR salt #Star Wars salt #this is salty #also forgive any typos I’m on mobil and will be for the foreseeable future #sorry

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kingaegonblackfyre · 3 years

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I have a lot of feelings, and I went into it wanting to like it

I love Ahsoka Tano. Removing the whole rl situation with RD from consideration, I went into this desperately hoping for the best and wanting to like it because I would love to see a live-action Ahsoka. Problem is, after over a decade of a purely animated character, any live-action version was gonna be a tall order, particularly due to the appearance and combat style. I get it.

The intro scene was alright - a good start. Duel wielding, reverse grip saber, force pushing and pulling. All characteristic of her fighting style, sans a classic Ahsoka kick to the face.

Then as the episode went on it got... weird? It was like it hit wrong notes for me across multiple points, and not necessarily RD’s fault.

Costume/Makeup Dept

As almost everyone is saying, the montrals and lekku are too short. The montrals look like she’s stuck her head out the window of a car.

The paintjob looks like it was painted last minute and then maybe sent through the washing machine and faded (sorry, not sorry).

And the creasing my god I could not look away, it was right next to her face. If it was meant to demonstrate battle scars, it was not done in an obvious enough way to show that.

Instead, as someone else pointed out, it looked like they ran out of CG money and time and just used the stand-in headpiece.

Do not come at me about “well she wouldn’t be able to move or fight in it”. This is DISNEY, and they are damn well gonna use this to springboard a new series and/or movie around Ahsoka, so don’t tell me they don’t have money to CG it in their FORTY MINUTE ADVERTISEMENT.

The face markings were off. The cheek ones didn’t extend back, and the forehead ones were a little too low and off.

There was no pigment to the lips or nails.

The outfit itself was fine, she always favored sleeveless (good!), but I thought the bottom was a little too low and would infringe upon her usual movement fighting style (as compared to her entire history of tactical skirts over leggings).

Choreography

The start was good - Ahsoka, like Maul, has never subscribed to the usual Jedi “lightsaber and ONLY lightsaber” combat style. She uses the force to push, pull, throw things. She kicks, she punches, she tackles. She turns sabers on and off on a whim to suit her needs. And most famously, the reverse grip. The first scene checked most of these boxes, while not perfect it was a pretty fair job.

The jumping over the tree branch and slicing her way out was well done too.

But by the time it got to the fight against the Magistrate, the choreography just... wasn’t there? From a cinematography pov, with the background, it was a pretty shot, but the combat just was not Ahsoka and kinda... weak for knowing over a year out she was gonna be in this.

She faced Grievous (at least twice) and survived, defeated Maul, jacked up Vader to the point that he limped away with 2/3rds of a helmet, and survived Sidious, and somehow she was disarmed by the Magistrate.

And then never recalled her saber from the water. The girl, who was disarmed by Maul and summoned it lit back to her hand through him, didn’t recall it.

I don’t know if there was a Covid concern, time issue, or a costume issue where they wanted or needed RD to do a lot of her own stunts, but clearly CW7 had a duel-wielding stuntwoman ready. to. go. to stunt Ahsoka. (and let’s face it, nobody had a problem with the Maul duel mo-cap so...)

To be perfectly honest, as she has done with Maul and the Inquisitors, she would have just grabbed the beskar spear and yanked it out of the Magistrate’s hands.

Or just knocked her into a wall with the Force

And to be fair, if the problem with the lekku and montrals was “well she couldn’t move or film fights in it” they didn’t really do enough movements for my taste to even justify that argument.

Writing

As other reviewers have noted previously, the Mandalorian loves to tease characters or plot lines and basically pool skim them (i.e. Cobb Vanth). It’s hard to cover an entire character/plot in 30-50 mins. I get it. But from the outside, if you were new to this character and hadn’t watched TCW or SWR, these were some of the takeaways you got, almost in order:

“She’s badass, but is she actually good or bad?”

“Can she be trusted with the Child? Maybe Din is right to be pacing.”

“Who is she, and what was she in the scheme of the story?” (this at least piques people’s interest to maybe do some research)

“Oh cool, so she won’t train him after we spent episodes getting here. Cool. Cool.”

“And now she’s gone, so should I give a shit about looking up who she is?”

And my personal favorite I’ve seen a few times: “Any other Jedi could have been substituted here and it wouldn’t have made a difference”

^^^^^^^^^This last one.

That’s a writing problem. That means you fucked up. That means you didn’t do enough in 40 minutes (when you set the timespan) to tell people why she matters or why we the audience should care.

And finally RD. It was mostly ok. I think some of the looks and head tilts nailed it. Ahsoka. But Ashley, even as adult Ahsoka, always spoke a little... musically in tone? Even portraying the older “I’ve been through some shit and I have PTSD” Ahsoka with an older tone, it still had moments of ups and downs in tone. And that can come off a little too cartoony real easily irl, I will admit, but it was just a little too monotone for me a lot. Plus Ahsoka does a lot of arm crossing and hands on hips, and the scene with her watching Din and Grogu really caught my attention that it was missing.

So I feel like there was a lot of good shit that happened (we got a name and backstory, we saw Morai and lothcats, THRAWWWWN, Tython, dual white lightsabers, live-action Ahsoka in the flesh, a Kurosawa feel, good cinematography), but I just... didn’t quite like it, and I can’t even just pin it to one thing.

#the mandalorian #mandalorian #mandalorian spoilers #star wars #ahsoka tano #ahsoka #tv

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