#aegisthus

[apollosgiftofprophecy]

IT'S 11:30 PM BUT I AM HAVING THOUGHTS

THOUGHTS ABOUT APOLLO AND ORESTES

I HAVE NOT READ THE ORESTIEA BUT DW I HAVE IT AND I'M GONNA READ IT AFTER THE ILIAD

I MAY HAVE MORE THOUGHTS AFTER THAT WE SHALL SEE

I made my Apollo & Cassandra post a while back so now it's time for Orestes :)

just. ahhhh. how do i begin.

at the beginning i guess.

Orestes is a young child when he's smuggled out of Argos. By his sister to keep him safe when their father is murdered by their mother. He's a young boy exiled from his home because of the actions of a vengeful queen.

Years later, he receives a mission from Apollo - kill his mother to avenge his father. And he does just that.

Apollo was a young god, not even born yet, when he was exiled from the very earth by a vengeful queen. His mother fought and ran to find a place to deliver him and his own sister to safety. In his mother's honor, he goes out of his way to kill those who dare to harm her - Python and Tityus, to name a few.

The parallels get me okay? Even if it's not a deadringer, they are sill there.

Apollo defends his mother while Orestes kills his.

Orestes was ordered to kill his mother while Apollo murdered others for Leto on his own accord.

And what REALLY gets me is their different motivations in this situation - Orestes believes he's avenging his father, the man he never quite knew. Apollo meanwhile wouldn't loose sleep over Agamemnon's death.

Apollo wasn't aiming to avenge Agamemnon. He was avenging Cassandra.

But he couldn't tell Orestes that, now could he? After all, what was a mere slave girl from Troy to Orestes? Especially since he didn't know her at all.

Avenging Cassandra wouldn't be enough to convince Orestes to commit matricide. So Apollo uses Agamemnon's death as incentive for Orestes.

And it works. Apollo's goals are met - Clytemnestra and Aegisthus are killed, and Cassandra's soul can rest easy now in Elysium.

He could cut his losses and leave Orestes to the Furies. He no longer has anything to do with this.

But Apollo stays with Orestes. He helps him rest in Delphi before getting him a headstart to Athens. He defends him in court from the Furies, in front of the jury of Athenians and Athena herself. He puts himself firmly on Orestes's side and uses whatever means necessary to get him off the hook.

And if that means manipulating the city of Athens via their sexist ideologies? It's free real estate. When you're in court, you use whatever you can to help your client.

And Apollo wins. Orestes is free to go, and the curse of the House of Atreus is gone for good.

just. vibrating from this. the similarities between Apollo & Orestes in their youth that diverges in stark ways. How Apollo could have dropped Orestes the moment his own goal was finished, but chose not too - he chose to take it a step farther and get rid of that curse for good. So Orestes and his family could live in peace.

When I first heard about the Oresteia, and what Apollo says to free Orestes, I had a hard time reconciling it. Apollo just didn't give off those sexist vibes to me (as a matter of facts, very few gods do - after all, they appear how they want when they want. gender is meaningless to gods.).

But I did some digging. Some thinking. And really, Apollo is quite in-character during the trial - he's in Lawyer Mode. He manipulates the system to his advantage as well as the Athenian citizens with their misogynistic beliefs.

Because think about it. Apollo uses the argument, in brief terms, that a mother has no claim on the child because they are only for making babies. This gets half of the Athenian jury to immediately side with Orestes.

Is this a bullshit argument? Absolutely. But sometimes a bullshit argument gets your client out of trouble and that's the job of a lawyer - to help their client.

For a closing statement, I also want to say that I don't think Apollo himself believes that sexist opinion. After all, Leto was the one running around the world to find a safe place to deliver him and Artemis - Zeus did very little to help.

It was his mom who did all the work, and Apollo is very clearly a mama's boy.

Plus, 99.9% of the people Apollo hangs out with are women. Leto, Artemis, the Muses, Athena, Hecate, Aphrodite, ect ect

There's no way he actually buys that argument. He just used it to gaslight the very-sexist Athenians into voting in Orestes's favor because godsdammit that curse needs to go!

thank you for coming to my TEDTalk. I have feelings. goodnight now. happy new year. i shall post a snippet of a storyboard idea for my mythology series tomorrow that features apollo & orestes because I HAVE FEELINGS.

#ramblings of an oracle #apollo #orestes #the oresteia #house of atreus #clytemnestra #agamemnon #cassandra #cassandra of troy #aegisthus #electra #greek mythology #tagamemnon #greek myths #greek myth #greek gods

[incorrecthomer]

Aegisthus: May I pour my lady some wine? Clytemnestra, loudly: Are you insane? My husband has just had his tendons ripped out and is on death's door! Clytemnestra, quietly to Aegisthus: pour it in the teacup

#greek mythology #incorrect greek mythology #greek heroes #incorrect greek heroes #incorrect greek quotes #incorrect quotes #iliad #incorrect iliad #aegisthus #agamemnon #clytemnestra #agamemnon x clytemnestra #clytemnestra x aegisthus #mycenaean royals

[lesbiancassius]

Aigisthos in Mycenae, Casey J. King

#aigisthos #aegisthus #casey j king #june original #HOUGH. hes important to me. #also sourry for spelling aigisthos and then also spelling it mycenae. consistency? who's that #might go back make it all mykenai but the other ones are already posted #in mycenae

[ghostwithwings]

Zeus: "Aegisthus did not listened to my warnings when I sent Hermes to announce Agamemnon's son will return to kill him if he sticks to his wife's side AND kill him. Not even Hermes with his long tongue could change his mind!"

Athena:"Who cares about that mf,he deserved it! Let's talk about the divine 💫 Odysseus 💫 instead. Let's send Hermes to Calypso."

Hermes:"I didn't even sit down in fact, as every story starts with me sent Hades knows where!!"

Zeus:"What are you saying?"

Hermes:"To your orders, my Lord Zeus."

Hermes *kilometres of ocean later* "Dammit!"

#incorrect greek god quotes #greek mythology #incorrect odyssey #odyssey #hermes #zeus #athena #odysseus #aegisthus #Agamemnon

[pantheonsofgaynessanddespair]

fourth gen house of atreus (i'm calling them that now) being stupid. yes including aegisthus i kNOW but they had a happy childhood together so leave me alone.

sorta inspired by this fic (the idea of these four being goofy together)

#greek mythology #greek myth #agamemnon #menelaus #anaxibia #aegisthus #house of atreus #appl memes

[luminouslumity]

Watch "Why Are So Many People Cooking Their Kids? The FULL Curse On The House of Atreus In Greek Mythology" on YouTube

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I would love an entire series on the whole House of Atreus! This family is so messed up, but it's so fascinating too!

#greek mythology #house of atreus #tantalus #pelops #hippodamia #atreus #thyestes #agamemnon #menelaus #aegisthus #clytemnestra #helen of sparta #helen of troy #iphigenia #elektra #orestes #moan inc.

[alexanderpearce]

your dear aegisthus? then into his grave-bed. continue your coupling as cold stiffened corpses. carry on tupping under your tombcairn.

libation bearers of oresteia dir. peter hall, trans. tony harrison

#OKAY LAST ONE. #this made me crazy #oresteia #orestes #clytemnestra #aegisthus #peter hall #tony harrison #tagamemnon #choephori #fleshposting #my posts

[incorrecthomer]

Aegisthus,walking into a messy living room: What’s going on here? Clytemnestra: Teenage rebellion Aegisthus: Fuck yeah, stick it to the old people Clytemnestra: We’re the old people Aegisthus: You guys better clean uP THIS MESS-

#greek mythology #incorrect greek mythology #greek heroes #incorrect greek heroes #incorrect greek quotes #incorrect quotes #iliad #incorrect iliad #the orestia #incorrect orestia #mycenaean royals #clytemnestra #aegisthus #electra #orestes #clytemnestra x aegisthus

[my-burnt-city]

the problem with loving a swing best, especially this close to closing, is that there is simply no way of knowing which performance will be the last time they ever play a particular role

anyway this happened again, and it was spectacular again, no regerts

#the burnt city #burnt city #punchdrunk #punchdrunk theatre #immersive theatre #immersive #aegisthus #ryan o'neill #ryan my beloved #i really truly honestly intended to follow clytemnestra #yes it would have been a stealth aegisthus loop #but still #but then the reset music played #and i just wasn't in the mood for stealth anymore #follow your joy #own your feral

[pelideswhore]

clytemnestra rejecting aegisthus over and over really is a concept that needs to be explored more

#i say this like i couldn’t write it myself #clytemnestra is such an ultimate slay queen i can’t get over anything she does #greek mythology #greek myth #clytemnestra #aegisthus #agamemnon #the oresteia #oresteia

[theburntcitycontraband]

#Clytemnestra #Aegisthus

[adriles]

my sister is a woman driven by grief. as her husband lay down in the bath she threw a net on him while her weird incest boyfriend lay into him with an axe. the house curse now lays on her shoulders. all menelaus and i now have to worry about is our daughter and our nice new drinking cups

#clytemnestra #agamemnon #aegisthus #is this the first aegisthus mention here? #helen #menelaus #odyssey #specifically cause of the book 4 mention #but also #orestia #seneca #seneca’s agamemnon my beloved….. #april fools #and shout out to alanna #with the immaculate house curse post tonight #hermione

[ilions-end]

WAIT aegisthus wasn't just agamemnon's cousin, but the one who killed his father?? klytemnestra really went and picked a lover for revenge with surgical precision

#do you think she had a chart to determine which fuckboy to pick. just comparing revenge scores #also aegisthus was apparently the child of father-daughter incest. god these families are dysfunctional in all directions #aegisthus #klytemnestra

[childofthesungodbooks]

Clytemnestra is a bad bitch fr

#bookish #books #2024 reads #clytemnestra #helen of troy #aegisthus #greek tumblr #greek mythology #ancient greek #greek gods

[blueheartbookclub]

"Euripides' Electra: A Timeless Tragedy of Vengeance and Redemption"

In Gilbert Murray's evocative translation of Euripides' timeless Greek tragedy, "Electra," the spirit of ancient drama is vividly brought to life. Set against the backdrop of familial betrayal and revenge, Murray's translation captures the essence of the original work, allowing contemporary readers to delve into the emotional depths of a classic tale.

The play unfolds with Electra, daughter of King Agamemnon, harboring a deep-seated resentment for her mother, Clytemnestra, and her stepfather, Aegisthus, who conspired to murder her father upon his return from the Trojan War. The narrative is woven with themes of justice, retribution, and the intricate complexities of human relationships.

Murray's translation strikes a delicate balance, preserving the poetic beauty of Euripides' language while making it accessible to a modern audience. The dialogue crackles with intensity as characters grapple with the moral consequences of their actions. Electra's grief and seething anger resonate powerfully, making her a compelling protagonist navigating the treacherous waters of vengeance.

The dramatic tension builds steadily, culminating in a gripping climax that explores the consequences of relentless pursuit of justice. Murray's translation masterfully captures the psychological nuances of the characters, inviting readers to empathize with their struggles and dilemmas.

"Euripides' Electra" remains relevant across centuries, offering a profound exploration of human nature, morality, and the enduring quest for justice. Gilbert Murray's translation ensures that the play's emotional depth and intellectual richness are not lost in translation, making it a compelling read for both scholars and those new to classical Greek literature.

"Electra," of Euripides skillfully translated by Gilbert Murray is available in Amazon in paperback 10.99$ and hardcover 18.99$ editions.

Number of pages: 132

Language: English

Rating: 9/10                                           

Link of the book!

Review By: King's Cat

#Euripides #Electra #Greek tragedy #Gilbert Murray #Ancient drama #Revenge #Justice #Clytemnestra #Aegisthus #Trojan War #Family betrayal #Moral consequences #Vengeance #Human relationships #Psychological nuances #Emotional depth #Classic literature #Greek mythology #Tragic hero #Dramatic tension #Morality #Intensity #Treacherous waters #Grief #Retribution #Consequences #Protagonist #Timeless themes #Intellectual richness #Classic Greek play

[modredus]

Ok I swear I’m going insane or something. Anytime I look up something about the House of Atreus, they always mention a daughter of Clytemnestra and Aegisthus who is named Helen and who Orestes kills as an infant. But I cannot for the life of me find what source mentions this.

#WHERE IS SHE #i swear im going to lose it if I don’t find it #can I not see or something where is it?? #a couple things seemed to point to Hyginus’ Fabulae but I could only find Erigone and Aletes there #tagamemnon #clytemnestra #aegisthus