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#Reva deserved better
fangeek-girl · 8 months
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I will defend Reva until I die. She was such a brilliant antagonist to bring to the Kenobi series.
The Inquisitors have always been known as Force-sensitive beings turned to the dark side. Some of them have been hinted as Jedi before they turned. But to have a youngling who survived Order 66 become an Inquisitor for the sole reason to take revenge on Vader? It’s so much more personal. She deserves a whole series about how she got there.
I’ve seen a lot of people laugh at her for daring to fight Vader, and it baffles me how the parallel from the flashback scene in that very episode went right over their heads. She fights because she’s angry. Because she cannot see past her pain. She wants revenge. That’s exactly who Anakin was back then. That’s who he was when he first fought Dooku and lost an arm.
Reva is a shadow of Anakin’s past following him around. That’s why he took the time to fight her properly. He could’ve discarded her, but he needed to teach her a lesson. And he needed to cut that link to his past.
There are so many parallels, but she got discarded by the fandom because she’s a powerful Black woman who took too much place in a show the fanboys wanted to be only about Kenobi and Vader. And it pisses me off to no end because Moses Ingram did an incredible job and Reva is one of my favourite antagonists in this entire universe.
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melinavostokoffkisser · 8 months
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The reaction to Shin vs the fan reactions to Reva just proves to me that #those star wars fans truly just hate black women. At least we had a look into Reva's backstory and an understanding of her motives. We know virtually nothing about Shin or her motives yet she's been accepted with open arms when they are both very similar characters
Not to kill the vibes but it needed to be said. And this isn't Shin hate either
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antianakin · 3 days
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Hey anyone remember how everyone and their mother tried to bash the Kenobi show for doing another sympathetic Inquisitor story and claimed Reva was just copying Trilla's story even though Reva's motivations were entirely different than Trilla's and her story ended up very different?
Where are all those people now that TOTE made a story that's basically just repeating Reva's plot except without any of the things that made it unique and interesting and compelling and then slapped Barriss's face on it? Where are those same people to bash TOTE for rehashing a story that's already been done and doing it worse?
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agirlunderarock · 2 years
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I don't trust you if you think Reva should have died
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englishlotusflower · 2 years
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I have So. Many. Feelings about Reva's casting.
The fact that she is a black woman in the canonically white, male Empire is so important to me. Because the fact that the Empire is predominantly white, males is important to me when juxtaposed with the diverse, inclusive Rebellion.
And Reva is in the Empire, is, in fact, an important person in it. And I have all the feelings about it, because yes. She is a black woman in the white, male-dominated Empire.
But this is important because of all the 'Reva was a Jedi' things.
Yes, she doesn't fit in with the Empire, but that's because she shouldn't. She isn't supposed to.
She was meant to be part of the Jedi, who are canonically whoever the fuck they want to be.
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She would have gotten on great as a Jedi, imo, and fitted in really well, because normal among the Jedi was just to be Force-sensitive and a generally good person (yes I ascribe to the Reva got tortured theory).
Because you know who canonically don't limit themselves to white males? Not the Sith. The canon Sith are white males (Palpatine, Dooku, Anakin, Kylo Ren), apart from Ventress, Maul, Savage and Feral (who only sort of count because Maul was definitely just a tool/placeholder and the other three were Dooku's pseudo-Padawans during his homesick periods so…)
The Jedi don't. The Jedi have, well, pretty much everyone. Kel Dors and Togruta and Twi'leks and Rodians and Wookies and…and…and….
Honestly, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
Something along the lines of, oh it's really important that Reva is, in fact, not a white male in the Empire, something something, her being unable to fit in with the Inquisitors vs the way the Jedi accept and cherish everyone is important because it shows just how the Empire has fucked the galaxy up and wow I have so many feelings about it.
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everyfandom-girl · 2 years
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Where the "Kenobi" series says "look! The old white man oppressors from the 70s! Remember them? Well because you love diversity, the fascists can be a black woman now!"...
..."Andor", in contrast, starts out with a big flashing neon ACAB sign, police brutality, the oppressing class does not need a tragic backstory when they have the conviction they are right, the show is three episodes in and I trust it to feel grounded already,.,
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midvalkyrie · 2 years
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“They were the only family I ever knew. And he slaughtered them… Where were you while he was killing my friends? He was your padawan.”
I am on the floor.
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spaceediasporaa · 6 months
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I’m rewatching the kenobi show and damn,, I forgot how amazing Moses Ingram is at her role. shes absolutely TERRIFYING every scene she is in she makes my hair stand on end
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intermundia · 2 years
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the kenobi show has given me so much Jedi content and I’m so glad, but also as someone who’s Jewish, it’s made me Incredibly Aware of exactly how many people in the fandom would fall for Nazi rhetoric - like when I see people saying “the Holocaust was bad” but then going “the Jedi deserved their fall” in the next breath, it doesn’t give me a lot of hope that people actually know why the Holocaust was bad, or that they’d be able to see through the propaganda if it occurred today
Absolutely, completely, and totally. The inability of many fans to correctly parse a narrative, to evaluate the credibility of information based on the person delivering it, and instead believing obvious, malicious propaganda because it satisfies their vicarious craving for power, listening and trusting the people wearing literal black cloaks and surrounded by stormtroopers, it is all depressing at best and deeply concerning at worst.
We share a fandom with people who argue with their whole chest that fascism is better than democracy, and that genocide was not only deserved, but also a net benefit for society at large, either ignoring or accepting without problem the blatant, shouted, real world antisemitic parallels. I don’t know if they are projecting their religious trauma from Christian institutions onto the Jedi, and so don’t see the antisemitism of reveling in their genocide, but that’s my most charitable explanation.
It’s so frustrating how they happily share and support Sidious’s version of reality, the view that was put into Anakin’s mouth on Mustafar to show how far he had fallen into evil, not to frame him as being right. They aren’t guided by compassion for innocent people, or maybe even aware of the history of very real atrocities, but it’s no excuse when it’s a sign of being incurious about the experience of others unlike yourself, and unconcerned with their suffering.
Watching Episode 5 and hearing Reva’s story about hiding among the bodies, my first thought when I was watching was about the 33,771 Jews killed at Babi Yar, and the survivor narratives, which included hiding among the dead. I think everyone needs to know about the very real, historical analogies to the things depicted on screen and understand why it is so important for us to agree about who are right and wrong about genocide, even in a fictional form.
I am not Jewish, but it matters to me a great deal to protect Jewish lives and to make sure it never happens again, both specifically to Jewish people and to other vulnerable minorities as well. Our stories should inspire us to be vigilant about the creep of fascism, not inspire us to argue in defense of fascists and enjoy their violence. Yes, it is just Star Wars, yet it is also much more than that. The stakes of all of this are actually indescribably high.
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gffa · 2 years
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“I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I failed them. He killed them all, and I couldn't do it.“ “You haven't failed them. By showing mercy, you have given them peace.“ I was in tears, Reva going after Luke because she wanted to take away Vader’s family, wanted to kill the child that should have meant everything to him, just like he killed the children that meant everything to her, wanting to avenge her family, but she only sees herself when she looks at Luke passed out, she only sees a  youngling who doesn’t deserve what happened. Contrasted against Vader having a chance to come back to a better path as well, to not be what he’s chosen to be, that Obi-Wan offers him a way back, offers him love and compassion, but Vader rejects it.  Reva cannot reject it, she couldn’t do it, couldn’t kill that part of herself. Because Obi-Wan is right, the other Jedi younglings wouldn’t have been avenged by murdering the child of Anakin Skywalker, it wouldn’t bring them peace.  Mercy brings them peace, Reva’s inability to become what Vader is is everything those Jedi younglings, her family, would have wanted for her.  They would never have wanted her to become him, they would want the light for her. Moses Ingram absolutely destroyed that scene, she had me in tears right along with Reva, this young woman who was so ruthless and lived on her rage and pain, but in the end, she was still Jedi enough to turn back.  She couldn’t do. She will never be Vader.  And her family is at peace for it.
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materassassino · 7 months
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Patrimony
From the DinLuke Server prompt of the same word.
Luke reaches the end of his tether, and Ahsoka gets yelled at, as she deserves.
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Luke feels out of his depth.
Everyone seems to know more than him.
“We didn’t used to do it like that,” Cal says, frowning.
“Oh, Kanan told me it was done this way,” Ezra says, flippant.
“That’s not how the Jedi teach,” Ahsoka says, disapproving.
“I don’t remember anything about that,” Reva says, dismissive.
“I DON’T THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED OF,” Gungi says, uncertain.
“Are you sure you want to do it that way?” Ezra asks, wincing, and Luke has had it.
He likes to think he’s left his rashness behind. He’s matured, he’s fully mastered his emotions. But even his patience can’t last forever.
He whips around to Ezra, shoulders set, face a mask of fury.
“You run this karking Order then!” he snarls. “If you’re all so much wiser than I am! Run it yourselves!”
And he storms off, blood hammering in his ears. He’s surprised he only said that, and not something so much worse, which was exactly what he wanted to. He stomps away from the little compound they’ve made, their temporary temple, and out into the streets of Sundari.
His boots pound the pavement as he tries to get as far away as possible, and Mandalorians quickly get out of his way, staring at him as he passes. He doesn’t care. All he can hear in his head is reproach, remonstration, criticism, dismissal. What do you even think you’re doing? the voices in his head demand, jeering at him. You don’t know anything!
Of course he doesn’t know anything, he thinks bitterly. He’s found himself in one of the little parks, a residential area, and he throws himself beneath a tree that still needs time to grow. No one told him anything. His masters were forging a weapon, not a Jedi. He didn’t even know what a Jedi was until he was nineteen! And they had the gall to call him the last, as if there weren’t people out there, people the same as him, who could have guided him from the start. They didn’t even attempt to remake the Order, and now they come here, judging every wrong step he takes without offering to teach him the dance in the first place.
He refuses to meditate, even though that would be the correct, Jedi thing to do. But he doesn’t want to be a Jedi just then. He doesn’t. He wants to drop everything and just run to the farthest corner of the galaxy where no one has even heard of the Force. Sithspit, even Tatooine would be better than this, right now.
What is he even trying to do, anyway? Maybe the Order would be better off dead and buried. What would the galaxy even gain, if he succeeded?
“May I sit?”
Luke hears the silver bells in the Force, their resonant chimes, and he scowls.
“What do you want?” he demands, not even looking up.
Ahsoka, wisely, chooses not to sit, because Luke would simply stand and then march off again.
“To discuss, perhaps,” she says, mild and supercilious and it grates on Luke’s nerves like metal scraping against metal, the hulls of two ships colliding. He surges to his feet, and her height doesn’t intimidate him – frankly, he’s faced taller, and meaner, and uglier.
“What’s to discuss? How I’m destroying everything? Ruining the legacy of the Jedi?!”
“Rage doesn’t—”
“Shut up, Ahsoka!” he snaps, and she does, her mouth clamping shut like he’s cast a spell on her. “You’re the worst of them all! Always needling, always criticising! You waltz in here whenever you want, proclaiming you’re not even a Jedi, and then proceed to tear everything apart because it’s not to your exacting, aloof standards!”
Luke breathes deeply through his nose, and instantly regrets everything he’s said. He pinches the bridge of his nose.
“I’m tired,” he says, fighting to keep his voice steady, “of everything I do being worthless.”
Ahsoka is quiet. “Luke,” she says, and finally there’s some emotion in her voice after it’s been so distant all the time, “it’s not. You’re… you’re trying to do everything on your own. You’re exhausted, you’re barely at home.”
She reaches out, cautious, like he’s a cornered, wounded animal that might bite, and gently her hand settles on his shoulder. Viciously he contemplates shrugging her off, but that just feels petty. He simply glances at her hand, and then at her.
“We know how much this means to you,” she says. “How much is at stake. You’ve done so much and you’ve done it by yourself.”
He scoffs at her.
She frowns. “It’s not just your legacy, Luke. You can’t carry it alone.”
“I’m not trying to!” he says through gritted teeth. “I was never trying to! I need help, not constant belittlement!”
Ahsoka sighs. “I… I think some of us are afraid,” she says. “We’re afraid it might be too distant from what we knew, even if we barely knew anything in the first place.” She removes her hand and sits, cross-legged, rubbing her arms. She looks much younger than she is, in that moment. “The world we knew is gone, and it’s been gone so long, that to see something being born out of its ashes means… letting go of it.” She looks up, tears in the corners of her eyes. “I’m sorry, Luke.”
He takes a deep breath, and for a long moment he stares at the ground beside her, before making a choice. He sits as well.
“It can’t go back to how it was,” Luke says. “I’m trying. I know it’s not the same, but it can’t be the same. Am I qualified? No. But are any of us? You all left me alone to do this by myself, no help, no guidance, no knowledge. I’ve been working off puzzle pieces that don’t even fit together. You say you want to help now, but it doesn’t feel like help. It just feels like resentment.”
Ahsoka’s breath hitches and she shuts her eyes, a look of pain on her face. “I know. The thing is, you’re doing so well. You’ve given us a place to call home again, you’re finding our history, you’re finding us the future as well…” She rubs at her eyes. “We had nothing for decades. We ran and we hid and we died, and then you came along and...” She gestures at everything around them, the rebuilt dome and the cleared streets and the rebuilt houses. “You even made allies out of old enemies. You’ve done so much.”
She looks at him then, biting her lip. “Is… is this because of Anakin?”
Luke scowls at her. “Not everything is to do with Anakin kriffing Skywalker,” he says waspishly.
“No, I meant… do you feel guilt for what he did?” she asks. “Do you feel bound to it because of him? Because of his actions?”
“I…” Luke swallows, and searches inside himself. I am a Jedi, like my father before me. “No,” he admits. “It’s not guilt. It’s not repentance, because I didn’t do it. It’s more… the right thing to do. It’s because the galaxy will be better for it.” He laughs bitterly. “Not that it feels like it.”
“How so?”
“Sometimes I wonder what the point of it is,” he says gloomily, tugging at the grass beneath his fingers. “Maybe the Order should have stayed dead.”
“Have you ever… thought of leaving?” Ahsoka asks, her voice gentle.
Luke blinks.
“You could, you know,” Ahsoka continues. “You have a husband, a son. Grogu doesn’t need to be a Jedi. You could simply be Luke.”
He’d thought about it, on lonely sleepless nights, curled up in bed on Yavin 4, all alone, where the future seemed impenetrable and murky and ultimately futile. But he hadn’t. He gotten up the next day and continued, one foot in front of the other. Although… well, if Grogu hadn’t have come along, perhaps he would have. Loneliness was becoming too familiar a state of being.
Luke shakes his head. “I am a Jedi. That’s what I am. I couldn’t… I couldn’t see the suffering in the galaxy and turn a blind eye to it, just walk away from it all. Not when I can do so much more.”
Ahsoka smiles then, her eyes creasing. “There’s your answer. That’s the point.” She sighs again. “I think we’ve been neglecting that, but we’ve also been neglecting each other. We’ve all been so isolated, it hasn’t done us good.”
“Jedi are pack animals?” Luke suggests, teasing, and Ahsoka chuckles.
It’s quiet, broken by the sound of children playing a street away and the recycled breeze in the leaves above them.
“You’re a good grandmaster, Luke,” Ahsoka says. “Don’t let us tell you otherwise.”
Luke stiffens, head snapping round to stare at her. “What?”
“A good grandmaster,” she repeats.
He shakes his head. “No. No, I’m no grandmaster, I’m far too young for that…”
“Who else is there?” Ahsoka asks. “Me, the coward running away from her own truth? Cal, who ran away from everything else? Reva, who was an Inquisitor?” She sets her hand on his shoulder again, more confidently this time, and Luke welcomes its weight. “You’ve done more than we ever could. You’re the only one it could be.” She makes a face. “And perhaps being old isn’t always the best choice.”
“I’ll take that,” he says, shrugging. “I’m not calling myself that, though. Not yet, anyway.”
Ahsoka nods with a chuckle.
Together they head back to the compound, and all eyes are on them as they walk through the gate. Grogu sprints across the yard and launches himself into Luke’s arms, babbling wildly and accusatorially.
“Well, they didn’t kill each other,” Reva says.
“Are you ok?” Ezra asks, nervous.
Luke sighs. “Yes. But… It’s been feeling like you’re all against me, like you hate everything I do, and that’s been… demoralising.”
“Talking out your feelings like normal people?” Merrin heckles from her seat beneath the porch – she tends to watch, distant and slightly mocking of it all, but fundamentally supportive. “Not very Jedi.”
Cal rolls his eyes as Reva huffs darkly.
“WE DIDN’T MEAN THAT, LUKE,” Gungi says. “IF YOU HADN’T HAVE FOUND US, WE WOULDN’T EVEN BE HERE, TOGETHER AGAIN.”
“We owe you a lot,” Cal admits, folding his arms. “What you’ve done so far, it’s incredible.”
“And we didn’t get this far by doing it by the book,” Ezra says. “We had to adapt to survive.”
Luke rocks Grogu gently, looking down at him pensively. Grogu looks up, curious, and touches his little claws to Luke’s hand.
It’s for him, isn’t it? Everything that he does, ultimately, is for Grogu, and those that will come after him. The legacy isn’t something they’ve been handed from the past, it’s a debt owed to the future. And there is no future without change.
“The past can prepare us,” Luke says, tickling Grogu behind the ear, just to hear him giggle, “but we can’t chart a course back to it. And I can’t do it alone, I need all of you with me.”
“Spoken like a true grandmaster,” Ahsoka murmurs, giving him a gentle pat on the shoulder.
The word doesn’t fit right now, but perhaps it will, in the future.
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fangeek-girl · 7 months
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i remember reading tweets and shit when obi-wan kenobi was still airing and among all the racist nonsense abt moses having the audacity to be black and a woman with a lightsaber in a star wars show, dudes were complaining abt how reva was just being a “whiny bitch” and going on to explain how it was acceptable and “reasonable” when anakin did it but NOT her.
fuck her trauma and anger! and going beyond that just BEGGING to see a black inquisitor woman humiliated? it was a mess. i felt for moses and reva.
I'm so glad I don't have Twitter/X and have stopped looking at reels on Instagram. These places are fostering so much hate.
The level of misogynoir we've been seeing from fanboys is disappointing, but unfortunately not surprising. They wanted a movie about Obi-Wan and Vader fighting. They hated the idea of a show from the get go and they've been trying to find every reason to complain about it since. I've seen them rage about Leia, about Luke seeing a lightsaber (nevermind that this was such a traumatic experience his mind probably wiped it all out after) and meeting Obi-Wan, about the Path, about the First Inquisitor's look (as if that kind of prosthetic could hold in action sequences), etc.
They hate any kind of diversity and inclusion because to them Star Wars is pretty coloured swords and starships and a cool villain in a mask. Unfortunately for them, the women who have been brought on recently to create new Star Wars cinematic content (not talking about KK here) seem to care more about good stories than the fan reaction.
I feel terrible for Moses (just like I felt terrible for Kelly Marie Tran, but that has as much to do with how the movies treated the character as how the fans treated the actress). I hope that won't stop Deborah Chow from coming back with more material for Reva (I'm not sure anybody else could give her character the story she deserves), or for the comics/novels creators from writing about her.
Reva deserves a whole show, a comics run and/or a novel dedicated to her. She's a force of nature, and her story shines light on one of the few things we still know so little of (at least in canon). The Inquisitors have been used a lot in the decades between the prequels and the original trilogy, but we don't get much information on their path to becoming Inquisitors. Reva not only gave us that, she was also morally gray. Her entire life is dedicated to getting revenge on the guy who's essentially her boss now. There's so much to explore there!
Anyways, sorry this got so long. I am very defensive of Reva/Moses and I hate the fanboys with a passion 😅 Thank you for the anon!
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melinavostokoffkisser · 8 months
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I want more black women in lead roles in star wars. But then again do I want to have to get on here and have to ward off this racist Fandom till my dying breath? Like When the acolyte comes out I'm gonna have to build a protective bubble around Jodie and Amandla
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kanansdume · 2 years
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What if Reva joins the Rebellion when she starts hearing Luke Skywalker’s name associated with it and thinks that Obi-Wan may have finally come out of hiding, only to show up and find out that he’s died, and the only person on that base who recognizes her is LEIA, who isn’t exactly going to be able to vouch for her as a trustworthy person.
But Reva insists she left the Inquisitors, that she wasn’t the same person anymore, and Luke being Luke decides to trust her. Maybe he hears something, or just gets a Feeling that’s Not Quite His Own telling him she’s being truthful, that she deserves a chance. 
Reva, who deliberately chose not to become Anakin Skywalker, choosing now to pick up the mission Obi-Wan Kenobi had had to leave behind. Reva choosing to help guide Luke when he asks because Obi-Wan can’t. Reva absolutely TERRIFIED about failing this person she nearly killed so long ago. Reva who never even became a PADAWAN, much less a Knight or a Master, struggling through the concept of training someone else to be a Jedi. But this was Master Kenobi’s mission, this is what he gave his life to protect. Obi-Wan had been a teacher, up through the end. He’d taught her, he’d taught Leia, he’d taught Luke. She could choose to follow in his footsteps just like she’d chosen not to follow in his first student’s. She could be a BETTER student than Anakin Skywalker had been and ensure that Anakin’s son never turned out like him. She decides that, while she’s not in the revenge game anymore, ensuring that Luke Skywalker never gets turned to the dark by his father is as close to justice for her family as she’s likely going to get. She doesn’t have Luke call her “Master” because she’d barely been a YOUNGLING, not even a Padawan, certainly not a Knight or a Master. And beyond that, she’s not certain she’s earned the right to call herself a Jedi again, yet. 
Reva probably struggles a little with some of the more advanced Force and lightsaber techniques just given where the majority of her training would have come from, but she ensures that Luke knows how to face his own fears by the time he sees Obi-Wan’s ghost telling him to go to Dagobah. 
Reva follows him to Dagobah and nearly bursts into tears when she sees Yoda come into their camp, even though he’s being kinda weird and trying to steal their food. Probably BECAUSE he’s being kinda weird and trying to steal their food, if she’s being honest with herself. Yoda being a mischievous troll of a mentor is something she’d long missed and never realized was something she could still find. Of course, having a lot of experience with helping out with Yoda’s pranks and a lot of (unfortunate) experience with keeping a straight face, she plays along and lets Luke figure out for himself that Yoda’s the Jedi Master he’s searching for. She’d told him she knew Yoda and so Luke just assumes she’ll tell him if she sees him.
Reva finally getting to see Obi-Wan’s ghost herself on Dagobah and ACTUALLY bursting into tears when he thanks her for picking up his mission where he’d left off and assuring her that she’s been doing an exemplary job and that he’s SO SO PROUD of her. 
This time, Luke’s had a little more training in facing his own fears, so he doesn’t go to Bespin when he gets his vision, as much as it hurts. Reva offers to go in his stead, because protecting Leia was ALSO part of Obi-Wan’s mission, even if Leia still isn’t Reva’s biggest fan. When Leia yells out that it’s a trap and to rescue Han, Reva doesn’t go anywhere near where Anakin’s waiting for Luke and instead manages to backtrack her way out and intercepts Boba Fett before he can fly off. 
When Reva comes back with the good news, Luke is able to continue his training uninterrupted. After a few months, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Reva have decided that Luke’s ready to know the truth about his parentage and sit him down to break the news. Luke asks them how they could trust him, knowing what happened to Anakin. He asks how he can ensure he doesn’t become Anakin, when it’s Anakin’s blood that runs in his veins.
Reva speaks up first.
She tells him that she knows he won’t become his father because Anakin chose this. Anakin chose to fall, he chose the darkness, he chose to turn on the people who’d considered him family, he chose to be the scourge of the galaxy, and CONTINUES to choose this. She knows Luke won’t make the same choice because she’s seen him do otherwise. She’s seen Luke make the sacrifice Anakin never could. She’s seen Luke manage to let go when Anakin never has. And she knows she can trust him because while Anakin’s blood may be what flows through Luke’s veins, he wasn’t Anakin’s father. She tells Luke that she met his father once, on Tatooine. That his true father had been willing to die for him. That he’d been willing to stand up to her when she was still making the wrong choices. That it was Owen and Beru’s love for Luke that had been part of what kept Luke alive that day. It was Anakin’s connection to Luke that pushed her to nearly kill him, but it was Owen and Beru’s CHOSEN connection to Luke that began to pull her back, that held her off long enough for Reva to think it through, calm down, and make the right choice. She trusts Luke because he ISN’T Anakin, because he makes the choice every day NOT to be Anakin.
When Yoda declares Luke ready, he knights both of them. 
On Endor, Reva has to accept Luke choosing to surrender to Anakin on his own, especially when he asks her to protect Leia in his stead. Reva chooses to let him go, because as much as she loves him, this is his choice to make, his destiny to pick up the way he wants. 
As he leaves, Luke bows to Reva and thanks her, calls her “Master” for the first time. Reva smiles and responds, “May the Force be with you, Padawan.”
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agirlunderarock · 2 years
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I'm having so many thoughts about Reva tonight
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Knowing that this is the last episode I have BIG FEAR. I have so much that I want for this character, and this fandom has been nothing but horrible to her.
I'm going to explain under the cut though because MASSIVE SPOILERS for the Obi-Wan series and maybe even a prediction of what the will happen next. Read at your own risk
Okay so I just wan to say Reva has gone from a character that really just intrigued me to one of my absolute favorite characters over the course of the Obi-Wan series. This is going to take awhile for me to get the main point of where I want Reva's story to go, but just bare with me. Its been so frustrating watching this fandom trash Reva, and/or be overly critical of her character at every turn and I'm going to take some time to address that to set up what I hope happens for her in this last episode.
If episode five was about Anakin still being a padawan, because he's impulsive and impatient and only focused on Obi-Wan- the same can be said for a good portion of the audience. Patience People it takes time to tell a story. We were two episodes in and people were throwing fits online because Reva knew who Vader really was. THE SHOW LITERALLY TOLD US WHO SHE WAS IN THE FIRST MINUTE.
From the first two episodes I had Reva's character locked down. The writers and editors told us everything we needed to know about her in those first two episodes. Opening with Order 66 and it having to do with the children, was not without reason. Thats the director's way of saying, "Hey remember this HUGE THING that happened? You need to remember these children, you need to remember this scene its going to be important to the story." Like that scene should have been in the back of your mind every time Reva or any of the inquisitors came on screen, any time there was an unfamiliar jedi, that should have been the first scene to pop up in the back of your mind. Every scene has a purpose.
So we have that first connection right? We have the scene with the kids during 66, and the next scene is the Grand Inquisitor and Reva at the little saloon right? That should tell you- there is a connection there!
But thats just our first connection to who Reva is, right? The next thing is motivation, for which some people were saying its very weak. HERES THE THING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I don't know what show everyone else was watching, but not once, NOT ONCE, does Reva mention killing Obi-Wan. She wants to "Catch" him. She wants to draw him out. In those first two episodes, none of her orders include killing him, or even harming him. Its about catching him. Are we supposed to know why she wants to catch him? No. We don't need to know yet, but we're meant to question why she's obsessed with him, why its important that she's the one to capture him when the other inquisitors have already given up any chance of finding him. They do not care or want to bother with him. We're meant to question why. I mean after all we can assume hat Vader wouldn't be opposed to any and all efforts to flush him out. He knows he's alive but everyone else is so dismissive and is frustrated with Reva for the actions she takes.
Theres a lot to say about the attitude the other inquisitors and how they treat Reva and the how writing choices made there have some really uncomfortable and upsetting real world issues. That in itself is a whole other post- but the long story short of that, is that the production/writing team could have made some changes to handle it better. The way that I've been watching and understanding Reva's interactions with the other Inquisitors- since the end of episode two- has a lot to do with the conditioning and torture they went through to get to this point. In other words I'm just trying to answer the question of why they might be that frustrated with her, and how the fact that majority of them where either former jedi/padawans/younglings at the temple. For a while when watching E1-2, I thought it was because she wanted Vader's favor. That delivering Obi-Wan to Vader would earn her some kind of recognition from Vader. It sat weird with me and I couldn't explain why until Disney revealed some of the character posters specifically this one.
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For the most part all the characters have one of two images in their line of sight. Either Vader or Obi-Wan. Its meant to symbolize their goals or motivations or some key aspect of their charcter development. Obi-Wan has Vader, Vader has Obi-Wan, the Grand inquisitor had Obi-wan- if Reva's main goal was to serve along side Vader, it would seem like Obi-Wan should be her main goal. He's not. She wants to catch him. Thats it. So my guess was then that left me with two guesses- she's trying to gain praise from Vader, or she's trying to draw him in to something. If Vader is where her goal lies, then Obi-Wan is just a means to an end, right? Obi-Wan was never the goal, he was a means to an end, Vader's end. By the end of E3 my guess had been that she would capture Obi-Wan and use him to fight Vader. How many people would be strong enough or smart enough to kill Vader- only the man who trained him. And again that begs the question of how did Reva know who Vader was. At this point you can assume one two things. One that she either managed to see recording Obi-Wan and Yoda saw of Anakin being knighted as Vader, or she was there when he attacked the temple. Think about it, Obi-Wan was a Master on the Council, all of the jedi had to know him or at least visually be able to recognize him. It stands to reason that they would have also known Anakin since they're literally always together. Any of the former jedi, would see this man who was so passionate about being a jedi, a well loved jedi, turning on his people and cutting them down without remorse. E5 confirms this with Reva's story, which was the main reason e5 was personally satisfying for me but whatever. Anyways, that answers a motive and how she knows- but it doesn't explain why the other inquisitors react the way they do to her. My guess is that the other inquisitors could sorta sense that she wasn't fully with them. Its not a "snuff out the light" sorta thing. Its a "I did everything I had to in order to survive, and you're going to jeopardize it" kinda thing. Like I almost feel like Obi-Wan still being out there and surviving is something of a buffer between Vader and the inquisitors. It means Vader has a big goal and will leave them out of it somewhat if he feels he can do a better job. Vader also acts as a buffer between the inquisitors and Palpatine- and if any of the inquisitors feel Reva is going to threaten that, then they're going to keep telling her to stand down. At least the way they're framed in the Kenobi show- the inquisitors don't seem so ambitious, they seem content to just do what they have to in order to get by and survive, fear of dying or worse is what gets them moving. But not Reva, for her its revenge. I'm not a huge fan of the dynamic if thats what they're going for, but it makes sense. I was going to say I feel like they could have made it more explicit, but Reva killing the Grand Inquisitor kinda says that she doesn't give a fuck about them. Even in Rebels the inquisitors have a very "every person for themselves" energy. I think it would have been beneficial to show more competition between them or something. Something so it doesn't single out Reva.
I wanted to get this out sooner but life happened and some of you are already watching the episode. That being said I have not seen the last episode as of yet, I have another hour before it drops.
My sincere hope is that in this last episode, Reva is allowed the chance to leave the Empire. I DO NOT want her do die or "redeem" herself by dying. Star wars has a nasty habit of making characters die in order to be "redeemed." They're not being redeemed, they're atoning for their actions. That's not the same as actively having to face the people you've harmed and working to make things right. You know who did get that chance? Kallus. Kallus is the only antagonist in watchable sw media to actively have to face the people he harmed and have to earn their forgiveness. His story with Zeb isn't perfect, I would have liked to have seen more, but it was a step in the right direction.
I want Reva to have that chance. I want Reva to go to Owen's farm and be about to threaten Luke and see the same frightened face she had when she was a child. I want her to see that and walk away from the Empire and the Inquisitors and start helping get children to safety using the Path. I want her to struggle to find people to trust her, people who know what she was a part of, and people who want to give her a chance, people who felt the same pain she did and chose kindness instead of revenge. I want her to have the chance to tell an amazing story in star wars, one we haven't seen yet, one that doesn't end with her dying before she's found a new family for herself.
I don't know whats going to happen I have 30 minutes still, but I hope above everything that this story does not end with her dying
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