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#ProShip Interact
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I spoke to an old IRL friend, who's sadly an Anti, and the conversation left me feeling quite a few things:
Antis do believe they're superior to you, in some way. Be it because they consider themselves the "morally better ones", or the "healthiest ones", or the "smarter ones". There's this feeling that they do or say the shit they say because they treat you as though you don't understand, like you disagreeing it's because of being "in denial".
Antis don't think using your trauma against you as an argument is bad. They see it as more of a reason that you should agree with them, because if you didn't have that trauma, you'd "think the way they think". A.k.a., they think that trauma makes you less intelligent, or less capable of critical thought.
They project A LOT. They are the ones unable to trust their own judgement, they are the ones who have weak morals and ideals and would crumble if they were in an environment that wasn't sanitized and questionable. And they either think everyone is that way, or are so far up their own asses they can't accept that it's a 'them problem'.
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russetfur1128 · 11 months
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People seem to have forgotten that "proship" was the Fandom norm for the longest time.
Only, it wasn't called proship. It was called ship and let ship. Or minding your own buisness.
If someone had a ship you didn't like or thought was gross, you would avoid them. If they drew art or wrote stories you didn't agree with or like, you would ignore them.
There were tags like smut, whump, and angst to tell people about things they might not want to read. And then dead dove: do not eat for taboo subjects and especially gritty fic.
Then people started to ignore that. Younger fans started to bully people because they disagreed with shipping certain characters. Whether it be because it "wasn't canon", they thought it was gross, or they just didn't like it.
These people began calling themselves "anti-ship"
Pro-ship became a label to show that someone was against anti-ship.
Eventually, the anti-ship movement began to die down. So do you know what they did? They started accusing people. Of being pedophiles, groomers, rape supporters, and more. All because they wrote or drew things that these people didn't like.
They began claiming that THEY were the Fandom norm, and that these "proshippers" were the bad people. They started claiming that proship stood for "problematic shipping"
Due to this, the term "pro-ship" is often misconstrued as to what it means. Many people don't even KNOW what it means.
It means "anti-censorship".
It means that we support someone's right to produce art, no matter how gross, no matter how taboo, no matter how "problematic"
Because it's not hurting anyone.
If it's something you don't want to see? Block the person. Block the tag. Say in your bio that you don't like it. That's what they're FOR!
This was discussed in earlier days of fandom.
"I wonder why people would read a story in a genre they don't care for, then take the time to let the writer know that sure enough, they didn't care for it. That would be like me going to a restaurant, ordering a slice of cherry pie, then asking that the chef be brought out so I can say "I don't like cherry pie, and I didn't like yours either." To continue this analogy into its usual fannish outcome, the chef would say "Well gee, lady, why did you order it?" And I'd say, "Are you questioning my right to order cherry pie?"
-Unknown 2002
Except now, it would be like the person who didn't like the cherry pie and ordered it anyways then demanded that no restaurant serve cherry pie because it was poison. Not only is it a ridiculous request, it's blatantly untrue.
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natsukashii11 · 1 month
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If antis need a DISCLAIMER that the dark fiction they read should not be repeated in real life, are they really old enough to be on the internet?
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seventyone-71 · 1 month
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watching a tv show but doing this everytime someone commits a crime so everyone knows im not a criminal
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lolikisser · 10 days
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Huh
(edit: that tag is blocked because apparently it might cause the person to be find out, if you saw it please don't look into it and and especially don't harass that person )
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dstrider-3 · 2 months
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antis acting like youre going to die or youre a terrible person for things you consume fictionally or thoughts you have remind me of terrible christians/catholics who say youll die and go to hell for xyz
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mangoshipping · 25 days
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💙 proship/neutral safe 💙
you and your f/o together in a room, sharing a bed. youre having a sleep over, before you get together.
its nighttime, and youre laying down, but youre up talking and smiling and making jokes together. youre both so tired, but you just want to keep laughing at random things with them.
you close your eyes at some point, relaxing, listening to your f/o, considering sleep. but when you notice theyve stopped talking, you turn and open your eyes to see them looking at you lovingly.
you cant tell if the moonlight coming into the room is playing tricks on you... but you could almost swear you can see a blush on their face.
they realize theyve been caught and stutter out some excuse, but youre barely listening. all you can think about is how cute they look.
💙 proship/neutral safe 💙
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dollystuffs-chiori · 27 days
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low empathy people, I love you
no empathy people, I love you
amoral people, I love you
morally grey people, I love you
people who are demonized by others for not caring, I love you
people who unknowingly harm others, I love you
people who accidentally harm others, I love you
people who are deemed problematic for any reason, I love you
irredeemable people, I love you
evil people, I love you
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This is a take that I've seen many Antis making lately, and I think it reaches peak stupidity for a number of reasons.
A: It's so stupidly bad that it's easy to twist their words around and say the obvious: "Oh, so you think if there's a minor in the smut it's okay to show it to them?"
B: I can be naked in my own house but I can't go out on the streets naked. Meaning, it's my blog, you stepped-on cardboard sheet, as long as I put the appropriate warnings I can put whatever the fuck I want in it.
C: It's probably the most terminally-online take of them all. Because it shows you have really ZERO idea of what a minor is /l-h.
You can't seriously think a bunch of pixels with an arbitrary number attached to them is the same as a REAL flesh and bone minor; age in fiction means literally nothing when there's characters like Ash who'd been 10/11 for as long as I've been ALIVE and characters are able to live ridiculous lifespans of 1000+ years. Also, minors are rarely written to feel like minors, because they're usually put in situations where the average minor can't even see themselves in.
And of course, thinking your brain is stupid enough to not recognize there's a difference between a minor in real life and a minor in fiction, would put you in the same category as animals who don't recognize their own reflection in a mirror. Please give your brain some credit, evolution worked really hard on it.
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russetfur1128 · 2 months
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Antis say "what would your coworkers/parents/etc say if you told them you're proship" all the time.
Well I just had to explain the whole anti vs proship to my step-mom and she goes "Well that's stupid. I'm pro do whatever the fuck you want as long as it doesn't involve real people"
This is how "normal" people think. "Normal" isn't judging random people for what they do in fiction. "Normal" isn't demanding other people censor themselves for your comfort.
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bxtchyfukei · 10 days
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Made this, can’t wait to piss off a few people 😍😍😍
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Now featuring the whole ass image because I noticed that people took out the first stage for some reason and because art so nice ima make all of y’all see it
Idk if any of y’all have also been through this before but it’s an oddly common occurrence with antis I have been noticing
Btw don’t take this post seriously, it’s just a little goofy thing I made to kill some time
💢 Antis I swear to fucking god do not interact
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natsukashii11 · 17 days
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some people are normal and then there’s this abhorrent mess of society called antis
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proship-angelbunny · 27 days
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Hey going off anon for a moment
Proshitters do not belong in the community
Your f/os actually fucking hate you
You’ll are lumping a group that contains actual predators with CHILDREN.
Did you or op have the fucking intelligence to comprehend this.
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Oh wow how mature, a 33 year old adult calling me a “proshitter” I would say think of a better insult but you being here is good enough! At least since you didn’t hide like a coward that means we can just block you. :3
Everyone reading this: please block this person for your own sanity.
Anyways here’s a silly rosecest picrew I did last night <3
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coffinfilled · 8 days
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yall people who act like offline everyone and their mom cares about proshipping drives me INSANE.
I was texting a irl who's chronically offline about the new Coffin of Andy and LeyLey content and she went "Fuck yeah! Love that for you" because I was excited, then asked if I named myself Ashley to be called LeyLey. like I promise NO ONE CARES
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dollystuffs-chiori · 24 days
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I HATE people who think it's okay to use the wrong pronouns for others just because they don't like them. dude shut up and be a decent fucking person. it's not that hard and never will be
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@the-great-ladyg Hope you don't mind I'm answering in a post, hun, I just have a lot to say about this!!
I think the reason Antis don't attack big name authors it's because Antis are "brainless". And no I don't mean this in the ableist sense, I mean this in the sense that they don't think for themselves. They're victims of mass media fearmongering, they like or dislike whatever is dictated by the general level of current tolerance.
Everyone has read big name author books with questionable themes. The thing is, nobody brings that up because it, genuinely, doesn't matter. So the public doesn't ponder about the nature of those questionable themes, and if they do, because the general public it's a lot more smart than Antis give them credit for, disregard it as simple fictional content and for what it is: As something that doesn't matter.
Now, because there's been such an upraise in fandom puritanism in the last few years ―I'm not sure why but what I am sure of is that there's not just one source of why―, people do stop and ponder about these things. And because there is a widespread fear and sense of "urgency" and "danger" about these things, Antis thusly are born.
Think of it as the tide-pod challenge a few years back. There most likely wasn't a huge number of kids who did it; a big part of the reason many did was because of the mass media reports about the subject. But Gen-Z got blamed and labeled and attacked for it just because there was a mass media panic about an issue that pretty much no one was seriously considering at the time.
Same with proshipping. The amount of proshippers who do genuine harm is nothing compared to the amount of proshippers who are just normal, everyday people. Mass panicking over this only breeds more hostility towards proshippers, who are in turn more reachable and brought up in reachable social media; i.e. TikTok, Twitter, etc.
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