#Ezralahm

[randomnameless]

@ezralahm replied to your post “About that Listhea and Edelgard dialogue on crest...”:

man imagine an /actually/ "deep and political and complex" 3H that is primarily Dimitri inventing and settling a House of Commons and Edgey having to deal with some bloke with the Crest of Seiros tromping into her throne room with the Sword of Blessings and declaring that he's the true descendent of Wilheim through the firstborn son and she's merely the imposter from the second branch

​and someone tries to claim they deserve a spot on the Round Table bc they have a Crest only for the other members to be like "lol whatever you're poor and don't even have ONE merchant ship, loser, go out and find a treasure," as Claude has to create a trading route with Almyra without anyone finding out

I'd totally read those fics if they are even written, because the severe drought of Hresvelg Grey means those ideas would never have been able to make it in the game(s).

Claude trying to trade with his papa and working on the "Wednesday Raids" as a result because Leicesterian Merlinus has as much def as the one from Elibe, which in turn makes him realise that Papa Goneril's "easy way to make cash" by offering "servants" to people if they need a job done fucking sucks and that's one of the first thing he has to change when he will finally sit on that Round Table -

Supreme Leader trying to Aymr' her way out of an inheritance crisis because she has better things to do like freeing the world from the evil lizard illuminati, but a clown barged in and suddenly people are siding with the clown, and shitting on her papa's and her grandpapa's (etc) regime who never did a thing for Adrestian commoners save for maybe offer them a place in the Opera to "relieve" nobles after a day of hard labour - leading to an Adrestian civil war :'( -

Dimitri setting a House of Commons, but tfw commoners still believe everything the Western Nobles and the Western Church tell them to believe, dealing with proto-populism and trying to keep his calm when someone asks him to build a wall between Duscur and Faerghus and get rid of duscurians living in Faerghus because they are bandits -

#ezralahm #the Merlinus from Leicester has a yellow cart #and it's pulled by deers not by horses #The fake Hresvelg is totally not related to Billy and isn't an Eisner 3rd gen bastard no not at all #Dimitri despairing because some of his people prefer to vote for someone who promise them he will give them a coin #instead of picking someone who really has their best interests at heart #and that's how Cornelia legitimately won an election and became the Fraldarius representative over Rodrigue #people didn't vote for him because his facial hair was less impressive than Cleobulus's bulusses. #fodlan nonsense #but there's no place for church BaD in those AUs!!!

[raxistaicho]

"No see, Moonlitboar wasn't HARASSED to the point of deleting their socials for their benign and untagged opinions about a video game, they were CANCELLED for them!"

Good to know that Moonlitboar wasn't unnecessarily dogpiled until they left and that they were only unnecessarily dogpiled until they left, thanks for clearing that up

Good to know I'll always have a home. In Teaveetamer and Ezralahm's heads.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to play more Grim Grimoire before I go to the gym.

#edelgard critical #teaveetamer #ezralahm

[deathbirby]

I think there might be some good old ageism involved in it. You know. The thing raxistanon keeps complaining about in ezralahm’s inbox.

Think about it. Edelgard is a young woman — in fact, she’s barely even a woman in WC. She is constantly portrayed as actually very girly. Hopes dials it up to eleven, but it is present in her Houses incarnation as well, particularly with the alternate hairstyle that makes her look like Weiss Schnee decided to dress completely in red for a change.

Meanwhile you have Rhea, a sexy lady who is (way) past the magical age of 25, a.k.a. when women become useless and unattractive to straight men (according to TikTok). Not saying raxistanon&gang consciously subscribe to this idea, just saying that the older woman (who arguably has less power) is seen as scary, a threat, and so on. Meanwhile the younger woman must be protected in petty internet arguments because she is a strong female character who fights for all of us… Yeah. Doesn’t make sense, does it?

Anyway, all I’m trying to say is that there is a hefty amount of ageism (villifying Rhea) and sexism (infantilizing Edelgard) involved. Ironically, raxistanon likes to complain about the former whenever his age-inappropriate behavior is brought up.

I'm not sure if that's the issue with them, because Rhea doesn't look like she's over a thousand years old, but they definitely think of Edelgard as an uwu tragic traumatized girl who can do no wrong.

3Houses makes her sing a whole song about how sad she is, 3Hopes dresses her in a sailor moon outfit and gives us an upskirt shot when she's lobotomized(??), and Cipher gives us art that is meant to be sexy. The reason IS would do that is because they want to cater to a specific audience, because it's not like Edelgard is a real person who would do that stuff.

So IS knows what her audience likes and it's that. She needs to be attractive but also uwu and sad enough for you to want to protect her.

#edelgard discourse #grey borb #WEISS SCHNEE IN RED??? #LMAO #they lobotomized her for a reason #people called her a sad weak puppet #so thats what she became #just like they wanted

[renisfan]

@ezralahm brave dimi can eat this map like breakfast but the flashy staff and rally guy and new enemy spawn positions hurt my brain so I went extra miles to have the legend boi aka my only dimi with NCD inherited 1-turn it 😭

The pain to fight morden spd demon with a spd DR unit...and having to use Mark for isolation and Plumeria for dance & bonus & 3 movs who are both debuff-based while the opponent has super warp + clash 4...and being too broke to have NCD 4...thankfully using aether + B!Robin did the trick

Surely when his remix come in November he'll get a bunch of stats and upgrades to make him super OP right? 😭

[archer3-13]

something that feels missing from botw compared to a lot of previous zelda games, and im thinkin on it right now cause ive been playing oot and mm recently, is a sense of moodiness as it were.

atmosphere would probably be a more eloquent way of describing it, but @ezralahm has mentioned the 'weirdness of zelda' before and how thats an interesting draw and appeal of the series and not a bug, but i would also call that part of the atmosphere of whats appealing of zelda as well.

on the other hand, whats on my mind at the moment is the moodiness of zelda. the sense of dread and expectation well plunging around in a dungeon, the droning music as it echoes through ancient halls and monolith structures of unknown purpose stand impassively, or tight hallways draw the player in as they tredge ever onward.

its a matter of aesthetic effectively, and its an aesthetic i feel botw lacks. which is funny cause there isn't anything too out of place for botw's visual design compared to other zelda games, but it still feels out place on that aesthetic level.

to bring a comparison, the water temple in oot is dead simple and plain in terms of aesthetics and definitely the weakest in that regard of the oot dungeons. its a fucking cave, and its centre piece is a tower you barely interact with. and yet, i think it does the idea of a water dungeon far better then vah rutah.

the water temples music is undersaid fitting the kinda haunting calm and contemplation of the water dungeon, and the muffled feeling of being in an underground underwater cave. the rock edifces are the appropriate colour of dark blue, complimented by a sandstone and grey blue palette for additional dungeon assets. it feels appropriately carved out of a cave even if it is highly simple, and i think its a very solid touch of having the shadow link fight as the image of the illusion pond and dead tree is more striking then the dungeons actual heart.

vah rutah is the same as every other divine beast in terms of visual and musical aesthetic, and that aesthetic is a generic rock magic technology hybridization and occasional generic purple goo.

idk this isnt a timely post, but it is one thats on my mind is all about the aesthetic of design.

#legend of zelda

[gascon-en-exil]

With this crap happening on a public discord server and how nobody there is giving a crap unless it makes them look bad, I'd say the FE fandom has gone overboard, well at least the Edelfandom has. When we're getting to the point where people are spewing out death threats and no one in their camp is batting an eye or nipping the bud immediately, then that's crimson (pun intended) flag that something has gone horribly wrong.

The thing though is that this really isn't a recent phenomenon. It seems that way because many of us have now publicly decided to share the evidence of how we're talked about on this server, but many of these screenshots go back quite a way. I've found instances of the server linking my posts and videos going all the way back to 2019 - and I haven't even been their primary target!

Raxis did recently call out Diaphin on Tumblr...but given that he only cares because it's "setting back" his years-long harassment campaign against Nilsh it's safe to say that none of us are buying it.

I agree with Ezralahm that this flare-up seems to be at least in part a scrambling for continued relevance, in the face of time and the fandom moving away from Three Houses since there just isn't all that much to say about it any more that hasn't been said in the last several years. People move on to other games and other interests, and when they do still want to talk about Three Houses/Hopes there's no reason to entertain the wankier elements of fandom - not just in this server, but in general.

I had my fun with the Ferdibert musicals project in April, and depending on what my video schedule looks like I may have occasion to make one on the Fódlan games in the future, but none of that will involve engaging with these sorts of people. I simply couldn't fathom spending this much time and energy defending any fictional character, even those I really like and those I particularly identify with (few if any of which come from video games, by the way). It's just so...pointless.

#Fandom discourse

[faroreswinds]

I am sorry but edelgard is not the villain there is no villain route each side is gray morality though for Claude it’s shown with the golden wildfire more and dimitri and edelgard and rhea turn out worse if byleth isn’t on their side rhea needed to be taken down from power A lesson in fire emblem is against dragons controlling humanity and a tendency of dragons causing problems and leading to humanity acting terribly is a thing

No, that's... not a lesson in FE.

At all. That actually misses the point of FE.

@ezralahm I believe this is more your jam?

#anon asks #FE discourse

[butwhatifidothis]

Aside from the horrendous cheating ordeal the casual racism in the chapter was also abysmal no wonder they tried to write it as no not Nabatean Ficleth is part god totally different yup this isn’t about race it’s about divinity no don’t think too much on it

Ohhh yeah, for sure. There were some anons that @ezralahm had gotten a while back trying their damndest to argue that Byleth isn't "mixed race, just part god," and they remind me a lot of this chapter.

Well, yes, sure, Nabatean is a race, and yeah Ficleth says this was always a part of who she is (meaning, before merging with Sothis), and sure that might could maybe sorta perhaps mean that would definitely make her partially the race of Nabatean, and yes the fic miiiiiight have already fucked up and called her part Nabatean before (or, well, said that she wasn't because she was also human, and as we all know there's no such thing as being two races and belonging anywhere silly!)... but she's part god! It's definitely her being a god that's the problem and not her being a Nabatean, we swear. Ignore how we also constantly demonize Nabateans and blame them as a whole race for all of Fodlan's problems, that has nothing to do with Ficleth becoming worse as a person should she retain her Naba- oops, sorry, godly part of herself!

And it certainly doesn't help that both the anon and the fic uses real, actual rhetoric used against mixed-race people to try and make a point about Byleth's mixed-race. "They don't have the right hair and eye color" being said by that anon is, like, straight up "you don't LOOK black though," naked and bare for the world to see. The idea of Ficleth being miserable specifically because her mixed-race status "ensures" that she doesn't belong anywhere and her journey being about how good it is to reject half of her heritage in order to be a pure [race] is, um, something I hope I don't have to explain why that's not exactly progressive.

It's very much something that 1) is not meant to be thought too hard about, and/or 2) Cap'n did not realize he was writing. As, um, noticeable it is for some people (*waves hand*), I still want to say that it's likely he's just ignorant on this sort of thing and that it's not malicious. Even with that though... yeah can't say that was a fun read for me personally

#ask #anon #o captain my captain #and it's just sprinkled in the cheating thing so casually #Ficleth might as well have said ''as you all know I hate being mixed-race and the fact that I am makes my life actively worse. Anyway-'' #like bro WHAT

[agoddamn]

@ezralahm Or if he had changed substantially over the timeskip. Or if any character in the FB had been like "sorry about your personal problems but I think it's pretty fair for someone relying on you in battle to be concerned with your strength."

It's such a cheap, fake conflict, you know? That's my personal opinion about a lot of 3H's Crest drama in general, I suppose. The fundamental conflict doesn't work because nobility exists separate from Crests. But the characters need to blame Crests, because the characters aren't allowed to point out that the story doesn't work, because if they did that any "ambiguous" reading of prime waifu Edelgard would go up in flames.

#3h blogging

[teaveetamer]

Who else has that guy blocked evaded?

That I know of:

Nilsh

Moonlit

FantasyInvader (everything tagged “the analyst” on his blog is just screenshots of FantasyInvader’s posts so I guess he has his next harassment target)

And now that he’s demonstrated that he’s clearly stalking BWIIDT she has openly stated that she has blocked him as well, so if he shows up screenshotting her posts you know he’s evading. Ezralahm also has had him blocked for months now so if you see anything of her’s on his blog, he’s block evading there too.

There’s a few other people I know of that have been getting/have gotten harassing asks from what they suspect is him or his buds in the past even though they have him blocked, but I’ll let them make themselves known if they want to.

And I’m sure he’ll be like “it’s not harassment, I don’t say his name!” About the screenshots. Evading someone’s block so you can farm content to mock on your blog IS in itself harassing behavior my dude. If you can’t accept that someone in the world somewhere might disagree with you then don’t go on the internet.

[randomnameless]

@ezralahm replied to your post “She doesn't want to kill them, she just want to...”:

She really wants to be the heroine of a Sentai series okay?! Before she was forced to be Emperor she'd spend hours practicing poses in between sweets breaks. Hdu mock her hard work making snazzy speeches!!!

​TFW she's not the sentai heroine who kills the evil bad guy complete with an explosion!

#ezralahm #poor Supreme Leader #she can't even be a sentai heroine because that beast stole her role :( #cruel beast #fodlan nonsense

[raxistaicho]

Fantasy Invader: Master of all five elements!

Wake up losers, Fantasy Invader is analyzing symbolism again!

So to give a bit of backstory, this all began with Ezralahm making a joking post comparing the four saints to the Four Holy Beasts.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if IS drew from them for Macuil and Indech - Eastern media LOVES using the four beats for symbolism - but it just kinda crumbles to pieces with anything more than a basic examination.

For instance, the Black Tortoise is associated with the cardinal direction of north, but Indech is to the west, and the Vermillion Bird is associated with the south but Macuil is to the north. All the Nabateans are dragons so they're all kinda the Azure Dragon, and none of them have tiger-like traits so who is the White Tiger? But she was mostly just joking around with how Flayn's latest Heroes skin (at least at the time) had her dressing as a cat, so I'm not gonna fuss.

But then Fantasy Invader took a crack at analyzing it more seriously. And I can't pass up the opportunity to demonstrate why his analytical ability is both underdeveloped and extremely motivated.

Another thing is the Yellow Dragon connects to the story of the Yellow Emperor as when he died, the Yellow Emperor is said to have transformed into the yellow dragon and ascended to the heavens (which, in turn, is why dragons are a symbol of enlightenment). Now, why is this important? Because the Yellow Emperor was the one who defeated the FLAME EMPEROR.

The problem, because of course there is one, is that the Yellow Emperor was associated with water, in contrast to the Yan Emperor being associated with fire. Byleth is associated with fire, not water.

Byleth doesn't have any water imagery associated with them at all.

Also, as Ezralahm pointed out, the Yellow Dragon would be Rhea, not Byleth, but the issue there is that the Yellow Dragon is associated with earth, and... well.

The Nabatean Earth Dragon is not Rhea, but Seteth. Rhea was a Sky Dragon.

Also, bringing in further issues, the Vermillion Bird is associated with Fire, but Macuil was a Wind Dragon, and the White Tiger and the Azure Dragon were Metal and Wood, respectively, but Seteth and Flayn are Earth and Light, respectively.

Like I said, there are relations to the four beasts, but they're very very surface-level.

Anyways, moving on,

Not only that, but the Yellow Dragon is tied to the element of earth as well as the Chinese version of quintessence (ergo, heaven and Earth), and changing of the seasons (as well as late summer). Changing of the seasons, in a game with each route tied on one season.

Okay, but the problem is Byleth and Sothis are associated with fire and the stars, not earth. And Byleth's route, Silver Snow, is associated with winter, not all four seasons.

The Chinese element of fire begets the earth Element, as fire reduces everything to ashes where they become part of the earth again. While fire can be positive, in excess it is said to represent hatred, impatience and impulsive behavior. Or, in other words, this can also be tied to how Edelgard brings about Byleth being the leader of Fodlan as Byleth succeeds Rhea as the leader of the Church in the center of Fodlan.

Then who's the wood person that got Edelgard to where she was? Wood begets Fire, as Fire begets Earth. You can't just stop partway with your symbolism, FI.

Hmm, the Eastern Church is in the Alliance. The direction of East is represented by the Azure Dragon, which would make it appear as though it's blue. But the ancient Chinese treated blue and green as simply different shades of the same color, much like how pink used to be just a very light red. Green is also used in relation to Almrya and Claude's route is Verdant (read Green) Wind.

And the Azure Dragon is associated with wood. Okay, so Claude got Edelgard to where she is? Well, no. In Verdant Wind, Claude doesn't create but defeats Edelgard, which reverses the wheel.

And, obviously, Claude is not ever associated with wood. He's associated with the wind, which doesn't fit any of the five elements.

Oh, and also, while he was right that blue and green are kinda confusingly synonymous in eastern cultures, Claude is associated with yellow. Not green.

Does this mean Ignatz is the true Azure Dragon!?

Considering it uses the banner of victory symbolism as Silver Snow does

The banner which looks nothing like the Buddhist banner of victory, mind you. And it uses that scene because VW is SS with Claude clumsily inserted.

the route is not just Byleth having obtained Enlightenment but Claude obtaining it as well. Claude doesn't give into his poison and remain a snake, he gets on the same level as a motherfucking dragon.

Which is changing the story as he so often says you do when you play CF over SS. In the "normal" story, SS, Claude does not join with the church and tries to go his own way.

So really, Golden Wildfire Claude really is more in line with his "canon" 3H self. At least, if you follow FI's logic and be consistent with it, which he never ever is.

And yes, he does call SS the "canon" route in this very post.

It would also put his route as the true Spring route, as that's what the Azure Dragon is tied to, tying in to how he accomplishes what Edelgard said she would except through proper means.

What blooms in spring, FI?

The fact the azure Dragon is tied to the Element of wood ties into how Byleth is supposed to be “a great tree that kindly embraces (the Golden Deer) and watches over (them) as (they) perch on its branches.”

But that's Byleth being the tree, not Claude. I thought Byleth was supposed to be earth, not wood? In that very quote FI grabbed, Marianne compares Claude to the wind, not the tree.

And Claude is like the wind, pushing us forward as we soar across the open sky…

Claude is associated with the wind, FI. Both games are very consistent about this.

While there is no Northern Church yet, the North is linked to the Black Tortoise (sometimes called the Black Warrior) intertwined with a snake (TWSITD and the damage they've done to his life and his country). It represents Winter. It wouldn't be hard to think of this as Dimitri in his black armor.

And winter, as I mentioned earlier, is Byleth's route. Snow. Autumn is Dimitri's.

But the Kingdom does have the Western Church,

The Western Church are Dimitri's enemies. Consistently.

linking it to the White Tiger. Dimitri ditches his black outfit for a white one as he becomes the good king, leader of the Blue Lions.

Heheh, NOPE. Dimitri unlocks the Great Lord class at the start of chapter 16, a full two chapters before he snaps out of Boar Mode.

So while Dimitri starts in Winter, he ends up in Autumn which corresponds to the Moon part of the game's Japanese title. This could also mean that Dimitri represents both the elements of water (which is tied to the moon, hence Azure Moon) and metal.

Except that Dimitri's not really associated with any element. Three Hopes made him associated with lightning, but eh, typical Fire Emblem trio with Edelgard and Claude had no remaining things to use but lightning. In any case, he's definitely not associated with water.

Metal can be beaten by flame (Edelgard) but water can beat fire, hinting at how the battle between the two can go either way. Earth though gives rise to metal (hence Byleth helping Dimitri succeed) while Metal beats wood (Claude, who hands over the Alliance)

So the good Dimitri will lose to Edelgard while Boar Dimitri won't? But that's not how it goes. Also, Water begets Wood and Wood begets Fire. So Dimitri created Claude created Edelgard created Byleth created Dimitri?

(Chinese, how does Metal beget Water? That doesn't make any sense!)

Also, how does metal beat wood? Metal's not adjacent to it, and your previous line of reasoning was that the earlier element in the wheel begets the next one. If metal coming before wood "beats" it, then wouldn't Edelgard beat Byleth? And also also, Dimitri doesn't kick Claude's ass and take his lands, Edelgard almost does!

If you're getting confused trying to follow along, I am too lol. This whole Pokemon-esque type advantage symbolism is a gigantic mess.

South is the Vermilion Bird, linking it to Edelgard (who wears red), her many bird-themed elements and her Southern Church. It's also linked to fire, indicating she's the Flame Emperor, as well as the season of summer.

Except Crimson Flower and Scarlet Blaze are the seasons of spring, not summer. Flowers bloom in spring.

Fire is also very, very destructive. Fire can melt metal or be defeated by water (again, how Dimitri can either defeat her or lose to her),

Except, again, he's got which Dimitri beats her reversed. By his own logic, Boar Dimitri is water, while Savior King Dimitri is metal, but SK Dimitri is the only time he can win against her.

it uses wood as a fuel (her invading the Alliance to fix her totalling the Empire's economy with the war)

FI just pulled that one completely out of his ass.

but creates earth in turn (Byleth ending up as Fodlan's ruler after defeating her in VW/SS).

But I thought Byleth was the tree!?

That's the end of that post (more or less, he rambles a bit but it's nothing important), and while I'd like to just stop here because following along with FI's train of thought is giving me a headache, but he had another post! Luckily this'll be a lot shorter.

Houses tries to link Claude to wind, but wind isn't one of the Chinese elements. Those are fire, water, earth, metal and wood unlike the western elements of earth, wind, fire, and water (no heart though). Ergo, Claude being wind makes him an outsider to this.

Well shoot, it seems like you analysis doesn't really work, does it?

Again with the blue-green stuff, this would also make Byleth a blue-haired lord/player character (the only real outliers in this regard are Corrin. Eliwood, Leif and Roy) But this would also denote that Rhea, Seteth and Flayn are trustworthy by hinting at the connection. Meanwhile, Edelgard's associated with red and black, villainous colors.

Red sure is an evil color in this series!

Edelgard's not associated with black herself. The Empire uses black for its armor, but the Black Eagles, aside from Hubert, are not associated with black. Edelgard herself wears mostly red, white, and gold in her Armored Lord and Emperor clothes.

And meanwhile,

If anyone's associated with black, it's Dimitri.

(Also fuck you for forgetting Celica and Micaiah, sexist asshole)

When you think about the game's usage of flowers, Edelgard's intendedred flower being the safflower would indicate it's a route of attraction (only revealed post-timeskip and altered to a rose in the English text),

Safflowers symbolize good luck and attracting love and marriage.

whereas the white lily Rhea wears would symbolize purity.

Very pure. Bountifully, bouncily pure.

Also wait, does this mean Rhea is a lesbian?

Whatever you have with Edelgard is meant to be superficial,

Love and marriage are superficial? Man, and I thought I was jaded.

whereas Byleth's real connection is meant to be with Rhea. That's the pure relationship.

You sound like a damn conservative, lol. Yeah, nothing purer than dating the woman who delivered you, tried to indoctrinate you, tried to eliminate your personality to get her mom back, and then called you by her mother's name during a tender moment.

Well,that's enough for now. There's only so much Fantasy Invader a man can stand. So, as usual, his symbolic analysis isn't consistent or well-researched, and it crumbles like a shitty jenga tower under the slightest scrutiny.

#fire emblem three houses #edelgard discourse #edelgard von hresvelg #edelgard positive #rhea #symbolism gone wild #fantasy invader

[yanderefairyangel]

Alright so apparently I am a liar because "the devs never said they wanted Engage to sell as much as Awakening but that they were trying to create an Awakening effect by attracting new players to the franchise" and that makes me wonder... how does it not equal to expect Engage to sell as much as Awakening ? How ?

Let's put things in perspective first. The "Engage has flopped crow" insist it flopped because it sold less then 3H right ? That 3H did a better job at bringining in new fans right ? So... by this logic, would the devs want Engage to outsell 3H... wouldn't they have said "we wanted it to have a 3H effect ?"

I repeat. Engage and 3H were developped in the same time, meaning 3H didn't existed yet in the market. Their best seller was Awakening and Fates. None of the game so far except Awakening managed to sell over 1. million copies. They designed Engage to look like Awakening (a game newcomers friendly) and even went for a story with a tone more akin to it and said they wanted to create an Awakening effect. Their goal was always centered around Awakening. And how do you wanna judge if something has an Awakening effect other then by expecting it to have the same numbers of sales ? It's common sense.

The devs wanted it to be around Awakening's sales because it was the effect they wanted to produce. You can only judge the effect a game does by its sales according to those same "Engage flopped" people. By their logic, Engage was designed to sell around the same number as Awakening and the devs expected it to be around this number. That was the objective fixed.

3H was never the option... cause it didn't sold anything yet when Engage was being made. Why would they expect the game to sell as much as the one that gain 0 yen because they didn't put it on the market yet ? When 3H and Engage were being made, no one expected 3H to sell 4 millions worldwild cause none of the game so far made it close to this number, expect Fates.

Also. Keep in mind that IS is used to such small number seeing how the franchise fared so far. The only flopp they faced where Shadow dragon who sold 250, 000

As we can see this little seach shows that IS is used to it and to the fact that it takes years for some of their best selling games to reach the over 2 millions.

Engage as of march 2023 sold over 1. 6 millions copies. That is the number that Fates managed to achieve after 2 years since its release. I repeat. Engage in 2 month the number that Fates took 2 years to make.

And Awakening ? The game that they were aiming Engage to create the same effect and therefore the same sales ? In its first month, it made 225, 000 copies !! Needless to say, for IS Engage's current sales are enough for them to say cheers !

It's completely nonsensical to think IS would all of a sudden expect Engage to make 4 millions when 1) when developped it wasn't the intention 2) 3H didn't sold anything yet wehn Engage was developped leaving the current landscape to be limited to the likes of Awakening and Fates 3) It was designed to create an Awakening effect and an Awakening effect can only be translated through the sales.

IS is now used to have game that make over 1 million with the years, Engage making the same number as Fates did in 2017, 2 years after release is enough for them to be happy cause they aren't used to that pace of sell, they are used to their game slowly gainining more and more, not being a blockbuster of the year. Again, 3H is the exception, not the rule.

As for the people saying I am "making things up" because we have no data of the budget. Unless you work at Nintendo, you will never have the actual number and @ezralahm already explained it here its kind of easy to deduce that Engage costed less then 3H to make : it wasn't originally a mainline game but just an anniversary one and became a mainline game cause they had nothing better to do then polish said game, it has less cut content then 3H, it is much shorter then 3H, it was developped internally and it didn't had a rushed deadline. Compared to the amount of cut out content 3H had amassed when its a game that's 400 hour long with 4 stories and made by two different teams, it's pretty easy to deduce it costed less to make.

I'd also like to point out that by the sales it made in 2 month it became automatically the 4th best selling game of the franchise. It is one of the best selling game this year as it is right behind Xenoblade 3 who also happened to have sold less then its predecessor, it is the 2nd highest download of the year in Japan. It sold more then both Awakening and Fates did in their first month. It also sold more then Hopes, the actual game before it.

All the comparison to a game that came out 4 year prior and that was never mentionned in the interview other then to say "we wanted it to be different" is nothing but bad faith and cope cope cope.

Which is very bizare to see cause I don't recall anyone trying to point that Awakening or Fates were commercial failure even though they sold much less then Engage and 3H in their first month. I also never saw a fandom feeling obligated to point out at a game to say "it's a failure" when it's objectively not.

This makes it very funny to imagine as this guy suggest an interview about "What went wrong with Engage"

"Hey Nakanishi, what went wrong with Engage ?"

"Oh I don't know Tei, it just sold the same number as Fates did in the span of 2 years, it did more then twice the number Awakening did in its first month, it got the highest download score in our country of the rising sun and got nominated for the Golden Joystic Award, I have no idea what went wrong with it"

#fire emblem #fire emblem engage #fe engage

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@ezralahm​ HIM HIM HIM

#fire emblem engage #ephraim fire emblem #eirika fire emblem #eirika: hold up imma call my brother to come kick your ass

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@ezralahm 力 is パワー 🐗💪

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i can't be the only one that thing Engage's main story is not that bad, sure it'aint great but still not that bad

your not the only one anon no. i think engage had a pretty fun main story, i know @ezralahm and @teaveetamer enjoyed it as well, as have a number of other people ive seen in the general tags.

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