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petscoboba · 29 days
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I want Toby Fox three years after the last chapter to make a game where it's just the Fun Gang going on a road trip to the east coast to go fishing. They raid a gas station on the way to grabs snacks for the road (and the lobsters they catch). Happy April Fool's.
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anxious-witch · 3 months
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So, Jan and Nace photoshoot analysis. This will definitely be long, and idk how coherent I will be. As always this is entirely subjective, this time maybe more than ever. I am up for friendly discussions and disagreements, but also after today if you are a dick, I will block you.
Anyway.
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So let's go pictures by pictures first and then observe how they interact. We start off with the top one, that almost seems like it was two individual shots first, but go glued together. To focus on Nace first, he is looking directly into the camera, his face completely visible, but his hair and body is in the shadow. His leather jacket is even covering his neck. He is in "full armor", except for his face. His face having a layer of combativness only add to that imagery.
Now to focus on Jan. I'd say he is in a similar state, his stare perhaps even more defiant, as if daring us to judge. His face is half covered by his hair, which makes sm sense in a way that we know Jan is a quite private person. He doesn't want people to full see him behind a curtain. Some things are private and he doesn't want to show us everything.
I also find it interesting that these pictures have less contrast than the ones we go later, as if there is additional layer of gray over them. Like they weren't sure it was just yet time to full pull the curtain away from their intimate moments, making them softer and more blurry. As someone else pointed out, it's giving a vibe of them being in the shower, the hot stream muddyijg up the pictures.
Then, right below it, we have Jan and Nace doing an Inuit kiss, their noses touching. And my god, I am so insane about this complete shift in perspective. They aren't looking into the camera, but at each other, with an almost painfully soft expressions.
What struck me as really interesting is that with Kris and Bojan's shoots, they were the most honest and open in the pictures where they look into the camera. Here, it's the opposite. In moments where they are focused on each other, you get the feeling they aren't even aware they are being observed. Looking into the camera, to the viewers seems uncomfortable.
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Then, we have this set. Top one resembles first one from the set, except for few significant changes. It's clearly one photo, not two separate ones glued together. Jan is closer to Nace, as if he moved close to protect him. Also another thing that I find interesting, although I am not sure of it was purposeful or simply a trick of the light but! In all pictures where they are together, it looks like they both have just a bit of smudged eyeliner. And I will even go as far to speculate it might be on purpse as if to imply their facade is getting smudged. They can't hold it in place anymore.
In picture two(my favorite, my beloved). We get them favung each other once again, and this time, Nace is openly laughing and Jan is smiling and looking at him with what I will dare say is the closest to adoration.
Jan's eyes are open and more visible, unlike from the first shot, where they were mostly covered by his hair. Almost as if seeing Nace in a happy and relaxed state made him show off a bit more of himself.
Last picture in this set has Jan looking at the camera, his hand clasped over Nace's mouth and Nace has his eyes half close, blind to the viewer, only focused on Jan.
And, okay. This is where my interpretation loses any pretense of objectivity, but I simply can't see this any other way. I read this as Nace being blind to them being watched so constantly and perhaps saying something that should-by Jan's standards-stay private. He is, unlike Nace, looking directly to us, and looks caugh, out of breath.
There is also that aspect of protectivness too-if he can stop Nace from revealing something us as views are not meant to hear, perhaps he can protect him from it.
Now, to focus on their separate pictures. Or well, mostly separate. Let's go with Nace's first.
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To start with the top picture, Nace looks both tired and defiant here, staring directly at the camera. His arms are crossed over his chest and he is gripping his shirt very tightly, pulling it away from his arms and towards his chest.
Again, throwing objectivity out of the window because I simply cannot be bothered today, but. This reads to me sm like he is showing off his tattoos and hiding chest? As if he wishes to be judged by art he choose for himself. It could also tie into the fact that due to some body issues, his arms are truly something he likes to shows off in comparison to the rest of his body.
Second picture on the left is connected. Once again, he is not looking at the viewer, unaware he is being observed and thus, showing how under the facade of intensity and defiance, the pressure is getting to him.
Third picture is SO INTENSE. Nace is gagged by some sort of fabric and the shadow/makeup around his eyes is the most intense. He looks the most brooding and his features look almost twisted. Like he is being silenced and put in the shape he doesn't want to be in.
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Then, we get this. What a transformation. The pure softness, the trust in Nace's eyes here. It's literally giving the intimacy of sharing an intimate moment with a lover to me, especially with the way these are positioned. Like Nace is laying down and softly looking up and then almost bashfully lowering his gaze. I am genuinely unwell with how intimate this looks.
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Now, THIS. We have Jan, staring at the camera, pulling Nace closer to himself. Nace is standing with his back to us.
This picture once again shows to me of how protective Jan feels over Nace. This is giving such "Don't you dare touch him" vibes, it's insane. Jan's hair is messy and untaimed, and still half hiding his face and yet, he is not turning away. Because turning away would mean leaving Nace vulnerable so instead he faces the camera head on while providing a safe space for Nace.
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And at last, two solo photos of Jan. First one has Jan showing off his painted nails, which we don't see in any of the other pictures. His face is half covered in both pictures, first with the hand and hair and the other with the hair only.
In the first picture, he is still looking at us, almost as if saying, "Are you watching? Do you see what I am showing?" While in the other one, he is looking at something away from the camera, in an almost resigned way. He is tired of the preformance, of being on guard. He is just letting hinself be observed.
Another thing that was pointed out to me was white frame for Nace vs black frame for Jan. And not to go totally off the rails at that, but-Nace providing a light to Jan, a hope of brightness and warmth, which Jan provides the comfort of dark, safe place for Nace is just bfjxnxkdjx.
Alll in all, I absolutely adored these and I am half asleep so I probably forgot half the stuff I wanted to say so please feel free to add on your thoughts.
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king-krisu · 7 months
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JOKER OUT/KÄÄRIJÄ KINKTOBER PROMPT LIST
I'm so in love with kinktober and in case some writers are looking for inspo for certain prompts, here you go!
I'm gonna highlight the kinktober prompts in the suggestions so you can work out what prompt my ramblings can fit with lmao😮‍💨💀
Feel free to use any of these however you wish! Credits are nice but not necessary lol, just have at it:
JOKER OUT:
Kris should get his ass destroyed, it's not a want it's a need. Maybe something like Jan/Nace/Jure taking Kris from behind meanwhile Bojan chokes him and whispers some sweet nothing in his ear? We all saw how enthusiastically both of them were into the choking at Tavastia 🫵🏻😀
Nace getting tied up by Jan. Will not elaborate (Toys/Bondage)
Pretty, dolled up Bojan who get taken care of like the princess he is. Our model boy Kris can also be made pretty (Lingerie)
I'm so passionate about a Bojere sandwich with Jance, like Morbid said I need them to squash those boys like bugs (Threesome/Group)
Just someone please take care of Nace, okay? That man is not into pain just give him a good time 😔🫶🏻 (spoken like I know him lmao)
Sensory deprivation is pretty much always on a kinktober list, and maybe that could work with Kris? You know, stressed out lil man taken care of by whoever by shutting the outside world out? 🧍🏼‍♂️
Since exhibitionism is also usually on the lists, and we know that Bojan and Nace are gym buddies, maybe Nace could fuck some sense into Bojan in a gym locker room, barely hidden away? Preferably post-workout so they're sweaty 😀🫶🏻
Someone make Jance dp Bojan. Maybe spitroast him. Thanks. (Double penetration)
I mean "This guys is my puppy" Bojan would probably love some puppy/pet play
Perhaps Nace gets tired of one of the boys constantly coming up to him on stage asking for attention, and he gives them what they want and more? (Overstimulation)
Prev can also work as Nace getting tired and wanting good boys to wait (edging)
Bcs Jure and Nace met on tinder, I think anonymous sex works best for them (FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST JURE CANNOT MEOW PLEASE)
KÄÄRIJÄ:
Bojan and Jere on the phone, with Bojan riding a pillow, pretending it's Jere's thigh or smth, and being desperate all the while Jere praises him over the phone? Yeah! :) (Phone sex/thigh riding)
Now obviously monsterfucking is very Käsh coded, either demon!Jere or Tommy, maybe vampires, maybe something else freaky in that gay forest in the ICIP mv?? Go wild
Y'all know I am a Nace/Jere enthusiast. I NEED a fic with Nace getting pissed off that Jere keeps forgetting his name etc, only to find out that it's just Jere's way of getting "Big big strong man" riled up. Maybe resulting in Nace then giving him more than he asked for. You can also include an annoyed boyfriend Jan here and make it dp lol (overstimulation/double penetration)
Now of course size queen Jere "any guys with big dicks here" Pöyhönen can work with any of the big boys, but especially Nace lolol (tho also that photo of Kris having to fold in half to meet Häärijä is also good inspo)
Edging would be funny with Tommy requiring Jere to stay quiet if we wants to cum lmao
I mean...... breeding with our mpreg king Jere works with anyone 🧍🏼‍♂️
I don't particularly care for the virginity tag BUT this could be used as a way for Jere to show Bojan a new kinkier side of sex like bondage, choking, roleplay etc?
Someone please put a ball gag on Jere good god he needs to shut the fuck up. You know he's a squirmy boy so tie him up too while you're at it
Speaking of shutting him up and even Jure also getting tired of his babbling, maybe Jure could shut Jere up by idk dragging him to the nearest supply closet and having his way with him just mere metres from the rest of the gang 😀 (exhibitionism)
Jere in lingerie!!!! Jere in pretty ruined makeup!!!!!!!! JERE IN A HARNESS!!!!!!
SOMEONE PLAY WITH JERE'S TITTIES. MAYBE THEY'RE PIERCED WHO KNOWS. Maybe Jere lets Bojan fuck his titties to give him atleast One (1) heterosexual fantasy in his life
Jere's strong af tongue pierced making Bojan go insane in whatever way you imagine 🫵🏻😎 maybe Tommy made him do it on a dare and he discovers it's a huge turn on for Bojan? :) maybe he eats him out and Bojan comes untouched WHO KNOWS THE WORLD IS YOUR OYSTER
Jere post-Tavastia (1 or 2) in a bathroom jerking off because whatever the fuck happened on stage was so hot and Bojan catches him? 🧎‍♂️ (masturbation/exhibitionism)
Okay that's all bye
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akanemnon · 10 months
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I saw many people ask about Frisk and the dark world but I'm more curious about what Chara would do in the dark world, or how they would react to Ralsei maybe they'll think it's Asriel idk wouldn't blame them.
Also, will Jevil or Spamton ever appear? I just love these scrunklies and would love to see any of them interact with Frisk, I think this happens sometime after chapter 2 so they're both most likely items perhaps they can speak as items? Would be another new thing to freak Kris out lol just imagine your glasses start talking all of a sudden
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If I can find a way to naturally put them into the comic, I will. Though there are a lot of characters already which are pretty hard to juggle. Maybe it could be possible as a one-off gag.
As for the Dark World Chara question... if something is gonna be brought up in future comics, I typically try to avoid answering these. Don't wanna give away too many spoilers, y'know ;)
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vsa-pieldepapel · 2 years
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Indulge my inner shipping trash-self for a bit. What exactly made Kris crush on Noelle? What do they like about her? Why prank her constantly? If they hadn't drifted apart, what would their relationship look like? (bonus Ralsusie question: How would it work if Ralsei couldn't leave the dark world?)
The indulgence is all mine as well anon
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> what exactly made kris crush on Noelle?
When they were kids? Nothing too important. Just the closeness of the relationship and that noelle was a cute girl, and Kris would feel like a valiant knight taking her on adventures. Kids don’t really need super deep reasons for their puppy crushes
As they grow up, I think a big part of it is the mutual understanding they have. Both feel alienated and pressured for different reasons and there is a respite in each other; Kris knowing noelle trusts them with all her quirks makes her attractive (after they bond over dark world shenanigans of course, my take is right now as of chapter 2 they are only starting to heal). I also think kris is attracted to the idea of a “partner in crime” which Noelle has been for a long, long time
> what do they like about her?
Interestingly, the sides of her that are less public LMFAO it’s all part of the Confidence you see
Her taste for horror, her prankster side, her appearance (yes I think kris finds Noelle really cute lol), her sense of humor are all big ones. We all know kris pranks Noelle but in Ch.2 we can see her retaliate and be sarcastic and playful and sharp and I think kris really likes that, again, the idea of a partner in crime to stick with through clean and messy and dick around with. I also hc they like the serious side of her— like when she waxes poetic about growing wings in the Ferris wheel, or monologues about Dess? They have heard that type of monologue before and they like it
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> why prank her constantly?
It’s a love language!!!! Kris knows noelle enjoys the adrenaline of getting spooked to a degree and extrapolates she will like them if they give her that thrill, and so pranks her to get her attention when they’re kids and it solidifies as a way to display affection. Kris won’t do a prank that goes too far, they know where to draw the line and how to tightrope it. They acquired the practice through going too far a couple times
They also know she will return the jabs and games, and they like that.
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> If they hadn’t drifted apart, what would the relationship look like?
Lmfao is it bad if I said I think Noelle would have never gotten a crush on Susie if they hadn’t drifted apart cus that’s what I think. I dunno if they would already be dating but they for sure would have more complex feelings for each other, perhaps walking that awkward line of “but they’ve been my neighbour forever, they probably see me more as a sister”
Or maybe the feelings toward Susie would exist, but the feelings toward kris would also exist, with all the consequent implications. Teen drama ahoy (I think if she did feel attracted to Susie, it would be on a more physical level and conflicting with the feelings toward kris… kris also has problems expressing their own feelings toward Noelle and so the relationship is at a standstill)
(Doodle of kriselle endgame to finish)
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>BONUS ROUND how would Ralsusie work if ralsei couldn’t leave the dark world?
PBTBTHRBTH this is so silly but I guess it’s time to talk about the Van Headcanon eH?
In @zixzs-ajk’s fics, there is this little world building bit that the shed in the forest is an entrance to the Dark World. I really like that, and I stole it to hc the following: a few years down the line when Susie is 19-Early 20s, she gets kicked out of the house for good. At this point she has bought a dinky secondhand van. When this happens she moves in there and drives it next to the shed, setting up camp- and lives this double life of sorts where she will have a part time odd job in the light world to keep the van working-ish and socialise with kris and Noelle, but the rest of her time is spent in the dark world with Ralsei, where she has food, shelter, a lover. (I dont doubt the others go visit her there, too)
I conflate it with Rals leaving the dark world so they sometimes sleep together in the van/camp when they want to be alone, but it works if he can’t leave the dark world, the difference being that she would gradually spend more and more time there. She will never 100% stay in it without leaving (she cares for her other friends a lot, and the van does need some degree of upkeep) but most of her life is spent being queen with ralsei because duh prince he’s gonna ascend to king with warrior queen in tow
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Of course canon May shit all over this and adjustments would be done accordingly, but for now, that’s the idea for that one
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toothzome · 2 years
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The Elements and the Fun Gang
I've had a theory/speculation for a while: that the fun gang all have ties to a certain element. Not anything like "element 6" or anything coded like that, but the elements of earth.
I believe this, for one, because it is an interesting way to look at their magic/predictions for future events. Knowing how they interact with each other during fights based on the elements provides a guideline for how any future fights should play out. For two, it's also a helpful way to look into their characters outside of that, like how their personalities are shaped.
Starting off, Susie is the element of fire. She's bold, hot-headed, and even incorporates fire into attacks in-canon. Her design is based on a lizard--possibly a dragon with her thoughts of "Susiezila." Fire suits her perfectly. Though the emblems of anger have been down since her introduction; now replaced with the flame of determination.
Ralsei would then embody earth. It's hard to imagine it, with his nervous shtick, stuttering, and overall hesitance to do much of anything (even if he is slowly gaining confidence), but we can see through a lot of his physical traits (his earthly tones, his general down-to-earth personality, the fact that he has healing powers which are historically generated with earth and nature) that he is earth. He is the grounding force of the fun gang, the one that reminded them of their mission in CH1, the goat (an animal associated with grass and dirt), the prince who gave them their mission in the first place. It's interesting to wonder how he'll change as he gains more confidence. In the future, we may see Ralsei transform from a grounded hero into a full-on rock-like force of good.
Of all the elements, Kris best fits water. I originally considered if they fit earth, until I remembered more about them. Their association with adaptability, their overall relaxed nature, the scene with the sink in CH2, the fact that their skin turns ocean blue in the dark world--it all led me to believe that Kris fit water the best. Their emotions, while default stoic and calm, can shift depending on the situation, as water changes form, shape, and flow depending on force. Kris is water; a calm element that can rapidly transform given trouble.
Finally, it makes the most sense for Berdly to be air. It may not seem fitting for his "nerd" personality, but then one has to remember that it was an air he put on. A front. The truth is that, for lack of better words, Berdly is an airhead. He's a kid whose head is inflated with the idea that he's the smartest, he uses wind/tornadoes for his attacks, and he's a bird! The sky, flight, and general association with air comes naturally to him.
In addition, Noelle is ice. That is unmistakable. It's important to note that ice is another form of water, explaining why Kris and Noelle get along so much. Susie clashed with Kris at first, before becoming friends with them. As we see from CH2 she's even become calmer from being around them. It's water cooling down fire. Ralsei is close to both Susie and Kris because he meets them in the middle ground (literally) as the element of earth. He can withstand all the elements. Berdly initially clashed with Susie and Kris because of his stature as air; a force that can disrupt both water and fire. It further explains why he got along with Noelle so well; her bearer of ice prevented her from being too disrupted by Berdly's wind. Noelle finds herself loosened up around Susie, her confidence having rubbed off on her; fire melting away the tensions of ice.
It's very interesting what this may mean in the context of future conflicts. Perhaps Kris, after Snowgrave, will begin to embody ice more? Maybe Ralsei representing earth is foreshadowing a future of stone for all the darkners? All I have is the "element theory" for now, I don't want it to be a harbinger of bad <:0
Tl;dr: each of the fun gang represents one of the 4 elements. Susie is fire, Ralsei is earth, Kris is water, and Berdly is air. Noelle is a variation of water, being ice. This outlook helps understand their personality, their interactions with each other, and why they clashed in the past. It also gives a bigger scope on their magic/fights.
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jam-n-jay · 7 months
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Everyone is focused on Ralsei knowing more than he lets on but I think Kris does too. From what we can tell Kris may have been expecting the players involvement. The cage in their room is used but there's no strong evidence they were possessed before the game, so perhaps they were practicing for it. Like think about it why would a human with literally no idea what's going on know how to rip out their own soul.
I think it may be likely that for whatever reason Gaster and Kris are working together. Despite the Goner vessel being discarded everything seems to be going to plan for Gaster, and Kris very much doesn't seem to be having fun but it does seem they KNOW what's going on. I think it would be an interesting angle if Kris was working with Gaster partially against their will. Maybe Gaster promised that if Kris helps him he can help bring back Dess from wherever she went. Whatever the case may be, Kris is very, VERY aware of the player's existence and what that entails, and has a vested interest in the creation of more dark worlds. I remember seeing some people saying that Kris probably just opened the dark world at the end of chapter two to have more adventures or in snowgrave to find a way to get rid of the soul, but I don't think either of those interpretations are entirely sound. I think the more likely thing is that Kris has the same motivation across both routes, and it's strong enough to not be stopped by having to suffer through snowgrave. Although I don't have any real evidence for it, I think it may have something to do with Dess' disappearance. Call it a hunch.
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agentravensong · 2 years
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incoming self-indulgent crossover au pitch:
kris, susie, and noelle deltarune go to hatchetfield and meet hannah and lex foster (maybe also rose? (I think she and susie would be fast friends) as well as miss holloway/holiday. the forging of new friendships - partly involving delving into similar supernatural trauma - ensues :)
putting the elaborate setup i came up with to justify this fun thought experiment under the cut (featuring brief spoilers for nightmare time season 2)
My thought for how this comes about is that, during or post the events of deltarune chapter 3, kris gets across to toriel that they are in need of capital H Help, the kind regular monsters may not be equipped to deal with.
Fortunately, when Toriel adopted the baby human from a not too far off human town, she was given a number to call in case of such an emergency. Her call to the social services is picked up or overheard by Duke Keane, who, after hearing the type of problem it is, tells her to come bring the kid to town to see Miss Holloway.
When Kris informs Susie they’re leaving for a little while, Susie insists on tagging along cause they’re besties (she convinces Toriel that her parents agreed to it). Noelle gets involved either because Kris and/or Susie asks her to come along, or maybe because, when Kris tells them the town they’re going to, Noelle remembers that was a place December had interest in as a weird town where weird things happen.
Susie doesn’t hear or fully absorb the name of the town they’re going to until they’re arriving, but once she does, she realizes she remembers it. See, building off the hints in-game that Susie grew up around humans rather than monsters, I think it’d be fun if her family, for a few years at least, lived in Hatchetfield. I mean, you can imagine a Hatchetfield story about a family suspected of being lizard people or something, right?
And, more importantly, it’s a good excuse for the squad to meet up with the Fosters. Susie goes back to the spot where she grew up, out of her or her friends’ curiosity, and runs into a face she very vaguely remembers: Lex. (Lex, for her part, forgot about this Susie kid - or, at least, forgot there ever being anything monsterly about her - when she gave up on her “imaginary friend” Webby and the idea of magic and the supernatural in general.)
Anyway, that’s my long-winded excuse to see the dynamics that would arise between these five teens (again, potentially six if we rope in Rose, or Ethan). Featuring Susie and Lex awkwardly catching up and finding each other to be kindred spirits, Noelle seeing herself and Dess in Hannah and Lex’s dynamic, Kris and Hannah quietly bonding over being Weird Kids with musical talent (among other things), and generally all of them having fun with, learning from, and helping each other.
And while they’re all growing close, Holloway/Holiday* is trying to help Kris (and potentially Noelle, if we decide to involve That Route) with the whole possession thing. A thing that Hannah inevitably picks up on - maybe even before Holloway does, with Webby’s help - and, perhaps, tries to help with in her own way.
Obviously the teens all have to go on a Dark World adventure together, but the contrivances required for that are something to ponder on a future date.
* I was thinking of maybe setting this around the events of Nightmare Time Season 2? Both for the easier way to tie in Rose (depending on timing), but also, the parallels between what Otho does to people in Yellow Jacket and Kris’s situation are so ripe for the dissecting that I would love to have Hannah notice and act on them in some form. Problem being, of course, that she and Lex leave Hatchetfield at the end of that whole thing. Might just cheese it and have this be a separate timeline where Hannah has dreams of other ones. This AU isn’t supposed to take itself that seriously, after all; it’s just for funsies.
…That being said, having Miss Holloway be going by Miss Holiday at the point that Noelle Holiday shows up is a joke waiting to happen. So I might just have to make it work.
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yeunno · 1 year
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Review One
One of Us is Lying by Karen M McManus
as always i would like to note that this review contains spoilers for One of Us is Lying by Karen M McManus. if you do not want the book spoiled, do not read this! at all! i will begin spoiling shit immediately <3
first of all, i should begin by noting that i bought this book knowing the entire plot line from start to finish. i already knew who the alleged “killer” was, knew everyone’s secrets, and still went ahead and purchased this book. and i definitely dont regret it at all. the start of the book keeps you intrigued because they get to the point quick. simon has his accident(?), the drama starts a bit, and then you find out that he dies, and you’re left wondering why. i think the book did a great job of keeping interest high. it’s definitely hard to say if i would feel this way at all if i didn’t quite literally have the whole book explained to me, perhaps maybe i was always interested because i already knew what would happen next, but i think the slight-yet-not-too-long drawing-out of the secrets and how they all handle them differently, especially with the fact that cooper’s real secret wasn’t revealed to us for a while, and the public/his family for even longer. i think that one of my main criticisms comes into okay here, though, because between cooper denying his use of steroids and the planted phones at the beginning, it was, on occasion, hard to determine what was true and what was not. at the beginning, when bronwyn mentions that the phone in her bag wasn’t her, simon says something along the lines of “you too?” at first i took this as simon mocking bronwyn, like he thought her excuse was dumb. and with the steroids, i don’t remember cooper explicitly stating to the reader that he wasn’t taking steroids until a bit later. i’m mildly disappointed that nate and bronwyn didn’t end up together at the end until a bit farther into the epilogue, as i was honestly routing for them. i do, however, understand that it’s probably a decently realistic scenario, as they led such different lives, but i did want them to work out. bronwyn had a nice little “i can change him” mentality that i honestly really wanted to be true. then, in the epilogue, they don’t even have their shit fixed, and they’re some weird on-and-off long-distance couple. which, again, slight bonus points for realism, buttttt i did not want said realism in this situation :) plus, this is combatted by the unrealistic nature of the fact that no one looked into simon himself and how fucking ODD it was that all four students claim to have a phone planted in their bag, and they all ended up in detention with simon the day he was going to write shit about them. you’re telling me that no one IRL would look into that? eli and his big brain really came through with that one. i found it really heartwarming that kris was the one to solve the whole problem, essentially the first time that cooper is OUT out with him, in more ways than one. i liked that little touch.
i think that that’s all i’ve got for this review. i could make a whole separate post on the show, please don’t watch it, you’re going to hate addy and everything just moves too quick. granted, only watched the first episode, but i was immediately not… not at all into it.
One of Us is Lying by Karen M McManus
overall, i really enjoyed this book. was satisfied with the delivery, had minimal complaints, and was sort of dying to read the book whenever i had a free moment, and even when i didn’t. i will say, though, it was a book that i could put down, and when i did put it down it was down for a little bit before i picked it back up again. but i think that everyone’s development was done very well and the suspense factor was not drawn out too much nor was too quick. very good book, sort of looking forward to reading the next one, though probably not for the writing style, but the plot itself. very much enjoyed
final rating: 8/10
thanks for reading my shitty little book review! let me know what you thought! if you have anything you’d like me to read, please let me know!
see you on the other page!
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miraculous-fatigue · 2 years
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Turns out I can write! So here’s a sort of “Beginnings Part 0.5” for my aaml au! It’s under the cut! It’s here! It has Klavier and Plagg interactions! Enjoy!
Klavier had known his brother was hiding something for a long time. About seven years, in fact. Kristoph didn’t seem as suspicious when they were younger… in fact, he seemed cool. He always had decisive evidence the prosecution and detectives were unaware of, and kept calm under pressure, almost like he knew the situation would always work out in his favor. That was how Kristoph became known as the coolest defense in the west.
But the older Klavier got, the more suspicious it all was. How did he always find decisive evidence that the detectives and prosecution overlooked? Why was he so confident that he’d have that decisive proof? And how did he know Phoenix Wright would use a forged piece of evidence in a trial that had not yet begun? Was it connected to Zak Gramarye firing him the day before? And when Kristoph was convicted of murder, it only confirmed Klavier’s suspicions. His brother was definitely hiding something, and he’d be a fool to think it stopped at one murder.
Since Kristoph was in jail, now seemed like the perfect time to look for answers in his office. A little technically-legal snooping would surely uncover something. Unfortunately, his office appeared oddly secret-free thus far.
If I was pretentious and petty, Klavier thought to himself, where would I hide my deep dark secrets? His eyes wandered around the room, eventually landing on the large painting hanging behind his brother’s desk. A lot of prosecutors hid their regulation safes behind paintings and the like. Perhaps defense attorneys did the same? Did they even have safes?
Sure enough, with the painting out of the way, Klavier had access to a small safe with a keypad. A four number combination... he could just look up the best way to break into a safe, but maybe it’d be better to try a few obvious combinations first. He could put Kristoph’s birthday, his-
*CLICK*
No way. He actually used his birthday as a combination? Did he forget that his birthday can be found by anyone with a quick Google search? How is he that dense? Maybe I’ve been overestimating him.
Shaking his head at his brother’s stupidity, Klavier peered into the safe. Disappointingly, there was nothing inside but a small black box. Still, it was something. He unclasped the lid, knowing he was prepared for whatever may be inside.
He was not prepared for what was inside.
A bright light flashed from the box, making Klavier long for the sunglasses he used to wear everywhere. What, he thought it made him look cool. He was seventeen, cut a guy some slack! And hey, his fashion sense had improved since then, and he didn’t wear his sunglasses indoors anymore. Or in the rain. Or at night. But if he’d known Kris had the goddamn sun hooked up to this box, maybe he’d have worn sunglasses!
He blinked rapidly, trying to chase away the dark spots in his vision. He cautiously peeked back at the box, but saw nothing there but a small black ring. As he wondered why there wasn’t some kind of lightbulb inside the box as well, he heard an exaggerated yawn from behind him.
“How many more times are we gonna do this? I told you I don’t know anything else! If you’re not gonna give me cheese, at least let me sleep,” groaned a… ok, he didn’t know what that was. Some kind of fairy… bug… cat? The tiny floating black thing blinked its big green eyes at him. “What, trying a new look? You want my advice? Doesn’t work for a guy with your personality. You’re too prim and proper. It’ll never work. Trash it, go back to your stuffy suits. And for the love of camembert, cover your-”
“Hold it!” Klavier interrupted. “I don’t know what a… whatever you are knows about fashion, but who exactly do you think I am? What’s this about my personality? How could I not be rockin’ enough to pull this off?”
“Alright, first of all, I’m a kwami, you know this, BLOURGH!” The kwami(?) hacked up a cloud of green bubbles. Gross. “Oh. Guess you’re noooot… a person whose name I can’t say. So who knows, maybe you can pull off the look after all.”
He blinked. Alright, so this is a “kwami.” It can’t say someone’s name. Probably my brother’s. Gottverdammt, Kris, what were you doing? I expected normal corruption, not weird… magic… whatever. Am I dreaming? Is this a nightmare? He pinched himself, but much to his dismay, he did not wake up.
The kwami thing spoke again. “Uh, you good? You look like you’re gonna pass out. Or maybe throw up. Ew, that’d be gross. Don’t do it at me.”
I probably don’t look “good,” do I? I can’t believe I thought I was ready for anything. How did I ever think that? I need to sit down. He collapsed into the nearest chair, his brother’s desk chair. It was ridiculously high-quality, far more than anything else in the office. Sitting in it felt like being a grade-schooler, sitting in a teacher’s desk chair when they were out of the room… though with Kristoph in jail, there was no risk of being caught. He couldn’t come in and act upset in that specific way that made Klavier not want to leave his food and drinks unattended. He understood that there was no real risk here, but even so…
The kwami spoke again, snapping him out of his thoughts. “Ok, so since you’re clearly not, uh, that guy, I gotta bring you up to speed on a few more things.”
Klavier laughed weakly as he rubbed his temples. “I see, more information. Why not, it’s not like this can get any more confusing. Go ahead, little kwami. Tell me everything.” That is why I came here, after all.
“Don’t call me little kwami, my name is Plagg, so use it! Plagg.” the kwami (Plagg, apparently) griped, drawing out his name. “I’m basically a tiny god, so show some respect. Let’s see, what does “everything” mean… you probably want to know that I’m bound to the ring in this box, I grant the power of destruction to my wielders, blah blah blah boring, but what you need to know is that I love cheese. Camembert, brie, mozzarella… you name it, I eat it. If we’re gonna be buddies—which obviously, you want to be my buddy—then you gotta give me cheese. Camembert is the best, of course, but anything stinky is good. The stinkier the better, that’s what I say! And of course cheese doesn’t have to be pricey to be good, but expensive cheeses are usually-”
Plagg’s cheese monologue was interrupted by a loud crash, followed by what sounded like an eagle screeching, a siren going off, and a crowd screaming.
Plagg grumbled. “Great, sounds like some idiot decided to go nuts with their miraculous. I wouldn’t have been let out otherwise. Let me guess, you “have to stop them” or whatever?”
“I have to stop them! It sounds like people are getting hurt!” Klavier ran to the window. “Smoke coming from the prison… scheiße. You, come with me,” he told Plagg, grabbing the box and quickly crossing to the office door. “If you really are a tiny god, you can use your powers to fix this.”
“Slow down, Mr. Rockin’ Outfit, I don’t “fix” things. And besides, I can’t use my power willy-nilly, as much as I may want to,” Plagg grumbled.
“Why not?
“You ever seen a dinosaur? Like, a living, breathing dinosaur?”
“No?”
“Exactly. And if I cause another incident, the guardians will get mad at me, and then I’ll be in trouble, and that’s no fun. Plus, it’s tiring to use my power myself, and that’s no fun either! So, if you’re gonna make me help, you’re gonna do the heavy lifting for me. Take my ring-”
“The one in the box?”
“What other ring is there? Just say “claws out” to transform. And have some cheese ready for me when you go back to normal! There’s an instruction manual in your baton once you transform, so I’m not gonna bother explaining anything else… but remember the cheese!”
“I… wait. Transform? What, like a magical girl?” Klavier asked as he slid the ring onto one of his free fingers. Remarkably, it changed its appearance to match his other silver rings. That would certainly be useful if this became some kind of permanent arrangement.
“Not explaining anything else!” Plagg shouted over another crash.
Another crash. Right, the whole people-are-in-danger thing. Life-saving first, questions later. “Plagg, claws out!”
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alpacasandwine · 1 year
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I have always thought it just feels so unfair that out of nowhere we become in control of Kris, like, the dude isn't enjoying it, and because of the narrative, you can't enjoy the game without forcing kris to do stuff you want to to, even the good stuff
So I have beeen coming out with possible headcannon solutions/explanations to this, We'll probably got a cannon answer sometime in the future but until then I'll brainstorm a bit, relating it a bit to Dess because I believe that Kris does care a lot about Noelle
So, what if Kris became possesed because they were trying to find Dess? Like they saw her last time near that bunker, and feeling bad for not doing anything at the time, they went to that bunker to try to find her, but something else came out of it? Or perhaps they did indeed checked inside and didn't found her, and that's why they are trying at a dark world now that they know how to open a fountain thanks to Queen
Another idea I come up with would be a way to make less shitty the whole using Kris thing. What if Kris was the one who summoned us? They felt they weren't able to do much to find Dess, so they asked for help, the help of someone who would be able to done a lot more than what they would be able to because we aren't bound by the same rules. However, just because it wasn't Kris's plan, that doesn't mean they are ok with everything we do, not only in the Doing bad stuff department but also in the not concentrating to find Dess, so they tried to force us to search a bit more by creating a new Dark wold, or maybe even that could have been an attempt to open a new are to search Dess in
Even thought I love the narrative of Kris being our Puppet, I feel bad that, at least based on what we know until now, we simply started to control them and ignore their feelings one random day. Making it so it is somewhat Kris's decision/fault would be the way I'd like to explain why they can refuse, it's like a "Wow wow buddy, my turn on the controller ok " at the end of each Chapter(?
I should refine this idea more, it is still a bit too vague to be a fully fleshed theory
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thebigshotman · 2 years
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*A hastily scribbled note is lying before you. Read it?
*YES *NO
*Hey everyone! I’ve been lurking around and checking out shenanigans every now and then, and it’s safe to say I miss you all terribly. But I can’t come back just yet. Like I feared, it’s been craziness at college right out the gate, and it’s been hard to find time to just sit down and to reply to things. I’m not gone for good, not by a long shot! But I’ll need just a little bit more time.
*However! I realized today is the one year anniversary of Chapter 2, and therefore the anniversary of Spamton coming into existence! So I felt compelled to write a little peek into what Spaul’s doing on this fine day. I wrote it over the course of several days, so apologies if it’s a little scattershot or weird. I hope you all enjoy it nonetheless!
*TL;DR I’ll be back in just a little while longer, but for now enjoy this little story! Bye for now!
*Inside is a crystal that changes between pink or yellow depending on how you’re turning it. You can see a birds eye view of Spaul in its reflection. Peer inside?
He wasn’t at his store or his dumpster today, not even at Cerise’s. Although he had stopped there for his usual ramen and cup of tea earlier today, to prepare himself for what he was going to do.
Instead, Spamton G. Spamton-nowadays more well known as “Spaul” since he had been given this second chance of existence-had discovered a portal back to Cyber City. His Cyber City. And so he had stepped through. Today was a…special day, you could say, for him.
The place was mostly abandoned, having been vacated by most of its intelligent residents in favor of going to Castle Town. The sole exceptions being misplaced Werewires, Virovirokuns, and Popups that continued to hunt for prey that didn’t exist. He had to dodge and sidestep them quite frequently, especially as he got further and further to his destination.
Queen’s Mansion.
He had no idea what had happened to his Swatch, Swatchlings, and Queen, but the place was empty and the door was unlocked. So he stepped inside, relishing the fact that he was finally back here after so, so long. Yet, surprisingly, happiness was not the only thing in his mind. Perhaps for the first time ever, fear was on Spaul’s mind as well.
It was probably because he was here to see…it. Or maybe it was a figment of his rapidly unspooling mind’s imagination. Who was to say for sure? He certainly couldn’t.
Down the stairs into the basement he went, and then even further down by way of that absolutely torturous tea cup ride. Walking along the rails that sprawled along its deepest layer, until he finally came across it.
Hunching across from him was the shriveled, disbelief, crazy, colorful husk he had once dared to call a “workout ready body”. Its metal wings were draped over itself, as if trying to protect itself from a threat that had long since consumed it. Indeed, a large, square shaped carving was present on its chest cavity; Kris’s handiwork from removing him from the robot.
Peering inside-but not too deeply, for fear of being sucked back in-wires were strung all around every crevice, holding all of the functions together. The ones that had held him in place spilled out from the hole, also from Kris’s sword work. And indeed, outside of the body, countless lime green wires also spooled out of the back of the machine.
He tried not to think about how it had felt when he had been cut loose from them. Halfway between consciousness and death, barely clinging to life until Kris and that purple girl had propped him up on this vines. Perhaps he would never be free after all.
Hurriedly, almost as if afraid of the strings, Spaul backed away to take in the entire piece in front of him and stuck his hands in his barely used pockets. Allowing the memories of that fight, of that fateful day, to freely flood his memories for the first time. His glasses turning completely black as this happened.
*K-Kris?? What did you do that?! He turned into those glasses to help us!
*…
*…C-C’mon, Kris. Ralsei, you too. This place is giving me the creeps; let’s leave before something else happens.
*Oh…okay! We can always come back and fix them up after we seal the Fountain! C’mon, Kris, let’s go!
He had tried so hard to believe what the Dark Prince had said, he really had.
But nobody came.
His glasses were still bent on one side from when Kris had thrown him, as well as one of the lenses being perpetually smudged. Even worse we’re more permanent effects that he did his best to hide: Cracks along the back of his head. What would Cerise or Eileen think if he saw that?
It was only after he felt the impact of his fist on it that Spaul came back to reality, realizing he had punched the NEO body. Static oozing out of his glasses which he quickly worked to fix by jostling them, returning them to their normal form. He backed away again, once again taking in the whole body again.
It seemed to be buzzing, calling for him to enter and seek limitless power once again. You want it. You need it. Don’t you see?
Spaul glitched spastically, shaking his head as the garbage noise in his mind whispered at him to betray every person that he had grown to love and appreciate since he had emerged in Castle Town. Coming here might not have been the smartest idea.
He would never turn to this power ever again! And for that, he felt quite proud of himself. He didn’t need anyone or anything else! He would protect his new friends all by himself!
But a little bit of power to do that with couldn’t hurt…
*…No. N0. I’VE B3EN THROUGH [[round trip to-]] T0 GO BACK TO TH4T [time to get in shape!]!! TOO MUCH [9-5]!!! YOU HERE THAT M1KE?!?!?! [[I’m sorry, but that’s incorrect.]]!!!
He “screamed” that to the Heavens, to the skies above the basement that he was in. The voice clip only sounded slightly upset, akin to a game show host, but his demeanor immediately afterwards, of preparing to leave and nervously smoothing back his hair, told the story better.
*…N1CE COMING BACK [[where it all began…]] BUT [[no stars, would not recommend!]]. TH1S THING C4N BURN IN [county landfill]!!!
He fixed it with one more long, hard stare. Flying again would be nice, but besides that…never again. OR SO HE THINKS.
Just before he turns to leave, though, he looks right at you. At the audience. His grin is menacing for a moment, before he sighs and lightens up a bit. After all, this body is the reason he has everything he has now. Perhaps he can’t be too mad at it, not when it’s been so throughly decommissioned. An “accepted” noise plays before he speaks, waving politely.
*4ND AS FOR [you lovely people!]…
*…HAPPY B1RTHDAY, [Heaven].
*The crystal goes dark, returning to simple pink and yellow hues once again.
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amaranthineoceans · 3 years
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Everything Weird About Deltarune!
Spoiler Warning for Undertale and Both Chapters of Deltarune! Really! I Literally Go Through Everything I Can Remember About Them!
This is a long post so get comfortable. Also note that my brain doesn't process thoughts into words very well so some of these might not be worded in the best way. :)
Deltarune. The first teaser chapter was released on October 31, 2018, and it came out of nowhere. We've all gone through this, but I'll try and go through every single painstaking detail I can remember. Feel free to reblog and add/correct things.
The weirdness begins right off the bat. The title is an anagram of UNDERTALE. We all know Toby likes to use anagrams when he wants to indirectly tell us when things are related, so it's no surprise that when you go to download DELTARUNE, it warns you that the game is designed for people who have played UNDERTALE. You think, "Cool, so it's a sequel? Or maybe a prequel? A different perspective of UNDERTALE perhaps?" You were wrong; so terribly, terribly wrong! I'll elaborate on this later.
Before you download the application, the terms of service that you must agree to beforehand reads simply and plainly, "You accept everything that will happen from now on." This detail was kinda brushed off in the beginning, because, hey, it's Toby Fox. He does weird stuff all the time. But even in the first chapter, it's apparent that the concept of choice, or more accurately, the lack of it, is a very present theme in the game. I would like to remind you that Toby has announced that there will be one ending in the game. One. I'll elaborate on this later.
The program (as in, what the game is called in your files) is named SURVEY PROGRAM. Why not just call it Deltarune like it is when you download chapter two?
The game launches you, without a title screen, without any setting adjustment options, straight into a reference to the theme of the entire franchise: the lack of choice. A strange formless voice guides you through "making a vessel", with what we know now as a fountain in the background. You have the option to make some very disturbing choices in this character creator, such as making its favorite flavor "pain" or expressing your feelings about it with options such as "fear" and "disgust." You name your "creation," tell the formless voice your name (which is different from your vessel's name) and watch as said formless voice muses over your name at an agonizing pace. It thanks you for your time and tells you that your wonderful creation, (cue music cutout and background removal) will now be discarded. "No one can choose who they are in this world." The screen slowly turns white as the voice says, "Your... name... is..."
It gets weirder. The next scene appears from the whiteness and showcases Toriel calling "Kris" out of bed. Kris' area of the room is very bare in contrast to the other side, which we later discover is Asriel's.
It's Toriel. Why is Toriel here?
Kris is kind of an anagram of Frisk (the protagonist of UNDERTALE) but without the F. I highly doubt this is a coincidence.
Speaking with Noelle is the only reason you can proceed (see what i did there?) while finding a partner in the classroom. This means you can't go through the 1st chapter without knowing who she is. Is it because of the Snowgrave route?
Ralsei is just suspicious to me. There's no way he was just waiting in that castle his whole life alone without some mental toil. So either he's insane or he wasn't alone the whole time. What happened? Is it related to how he can close his eyes and see what Susie is going through when she's apart from the party? Was he just watching everything? Is he related to the formless voice?
Susie's icon is the only one without color in the Dark World.
Jevil's fight is more difficult than Sans'.
Your actions have little consequence in the first chapter. If you choose to go genocide, the only difference in the ending is being run out of the kingdom, and this doesn't carry over to the next chapter. Again, lack of choice, people.
If at the end of chapter one, you walk around town, it's mentioned (notably by Noelle) that you're usually not this talkative. If you go to the hospital and speak with the receptionist, they mention that you used to play the piano in the corner. If you decide to attempt to play the said piano, an out-of-key bash can be heard and the receptionist comments on how you used to play beautifully. If you try this in chapter two, the result is the same. All this is confirmation that Kris is acting noticeably weird.
When you leave the Dark World and walk around town, you can find Sans. He "pretends" to recognize you, and if you tell him you recognize him, he tells you it's funny, considering that you two have never met before. He winks. I'm pretty sure he knows that the player is there.
The mention of Papyrus in both games, but the purposeful lack of him. Like he's avoiding you.
If you go upstairs while inside Asgore's flower shop, there are flowers in glass cases resembling his SOUL collection in UNDERTALE. There's a red flower.
You can't enter the church.
The clock in the storage closet shows a different time than all the others in the school.
If you go all the way south in town and into the woods, the music stops and you come across a rusty, double door is in a hill covered in crass. It's locked. If you go this way in chapter two, however, you watch a cutscene where you and susie happen to find Monster Kid from UNDERTALE (or someone resembling them) and an owl kid in front of the door. The owl kid is pressuring Monster Kid to (presumably) break inside, telling them that they don't want to be a wimp like Kris. Does this imply that Kris is connected to this strange door somehow?
The ending. You know what I'm talking about.
Did Kris actually rip out the SOUL (I say "the" because I'm not entirely sure it's Kris') and knife because they wanted to eat the pie? Did they only eat the pie because Toriel caught them?
Why did they look at the player? Are they sick of being controlled? Is that why they freaked out after the Spamton fight? (later)
Anyway, now we're at chapter two.
DELTARUNE Chapter Two was released on September 17th, 2021. 17. Entry Number 17. Sound familiar?
Asriel's part of the room is different from the last chapter. I don't think this means anything sinister, but I think it means Kris notices different things about the room as the story progresses. My theory is that it will become more sinister in each chapter.
Ralsei getting super excited to see Susie and Kris after a day. As in he has separation anxiety and it breaks my heart. not anything suspicious but it makes me sad so it's on the list.
Kris and Susie's rooms. Ralsei REALLY doesn't want them to leave. Seriously get this boy a therapist. Or a stuffed animal. SOMETHING.
Kris having to gather everything from the storage closet so that people appear in the Dark World????? Why??????????????? They had to do the same thing for the computer lab too.
The golden door. I don't trust it.
How/why the heck did Noelle and Berdley go into the Computer Lab Dark World? I don't see either of them just walking into pulsing void doors without Susie.
Apparently the knight has been gone for a bit and can corrupt people's minds? The king in the first chapter doesn't seem like he can be redeemed but Queen just seems,,, not bad, but a little crazy. I wonder what happened.
Then again, name ONE person in this franchise without trauma.
Spamton.
Horror doesn't bother me. Spamton? Spamton bothers me.
SPAMTON. ENOUGH SAID.
A Kromer is a type of hat invented in the '70s. Nobody named Mike is associated with it, that I can find.
SPAMPTON. HOW DO I EVEN DESCRIBE IT.
HIS SONG IS THE ONLY ONE WITH WORDS.
The way he asks Kris is they want to be a heart on a chain their whole life. Like, dude, no wonder they were screaming after the fight.
WHERE DID THE YELLOW HEART COME FROM. YELLOW MEANS JUSTICE. WHY DOES JUSTICE APPLY.
Kris screaming after the fight and the player not being able to hear it. Don't you dare tell me that's just how the game is designed. There are sound effects characters make throughout the game. None that I can think of apply to Kris, apart from when they rip their soul out.
Ralsei brushing off the Spamton fight. Either that's his coping mechanism or he was trying to shut Susie and Kris up to protect them from... something. I'll touch on that in a minute.
According to Queen, DETERMINATION is a key factor in creating a fountain.
Also according to Queen, Kris, Noelle, and Susie all have DETERMINATION SOULS.
Ralsei freaking out about Berdley making a fountain implies that he may also have DETERMINATION. Why I'm bringing all this up will make sense soon.
How was Noelle able to cast Snowgrave... a spell that she, according to her, didn't know?
The Snowgrave route is so twisted.
You manipulate Noelle into killing Berdley and then, when you get back to the computer lab and investigate his corpse, the text box says that he doesn't seem to be awake. As if you're in denial?
Burgerpants recognizes you. Not Kris. As in the player.
The ending. I don't think I need to describe it. Kris is very methodical without the SOUL. (I say "the" because, again, I'm not 100% convinced it's theirs.) I'm saying this about how they left clues that someone broke into the This proves that they are NOT a mindless, vengeful husk.
HOW DID THEY MAKE THE FOUNTAIN WITHOUT THE SOUL INSIDE OF THEM. DID THEY FEED THE SOUL TO IT AFTERWARDS? IS THAT WHAT THAT WAS?
Another point I would like to make is my theory that Ralsei knows much more than he would have us believe. I might put this into a different post because I have yet to gather my points into a coherent bullet point list, so keep an eye out for that.
Anyway apart from Toriel and Susie being VERY heavy sleepers, I think I've gone through everything. I have a few theories.
1. Kris is possessed by the player and figured out that they could make a fountain from Queen and related to Spamton freaking out about freedom. They then decided to make a fountain going by the logic that "this would tick the player off." This is one of my top theories that assumes that the SOUL is theirs.
And 2. Kris is possessed by both the player and the knight. I think the formless voice at the very beginning of the game is the knight, and they somehow needed the player to possess someone with DETERMINATION. If so, then why Kris? We know from Queen that Noelle and Susie, and maybe even Berdley also have DETERMINATION. The most plausible thing I can think of is the fact that human souls are stronger than monster ones.
I do think that the popular theory (about the one that suggests that the Dark Word is nothing but a figment of a child's imagination, and the events that occur in said Dark World are simply children playing with toys) has been thoroughly dashed due to Berdley's murder in the genocide route of the second chapter. Unless he's not dead. Regardless, how the events (or lack thereof) that occur in the second chapter play through the next will be interesting, especially considering Toby's announcement about how there will be one ending to the game. So either Berdley isn't dead, or he will be.
Aaaand I think that's it! Sorry for the long post; let me know your thoughts and if I missed anything!
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lunagalemaster · 3 years
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Found out about salt route au for deltarune and I have thoughts.
On one hand, excellent angst and interesting use of game mechanics. The loop at the end of it and the static locked out game? Excellent. Love that.
However, one thing that my brain gets caught on: why does Spamton believe the player?
The biggest thing about Snowgrave route that I think something people miss: Noelle has zero clue as to what's going on. She doesn't know how to fight, doesn't get this world, and overall, the point is that in this vulnerable state, the player takes advantage of her and makes her dependent on you. (Which is why it feels distressingly real: there's real world tactics of manipulation used).
Meanwhile Spamton, he's the exact opposite. He knows EXACTLY what's going on. He knows that the player is manipulating Kris. He knows multiple ways to potentially get out. He wants to be free of his ties as a creature but doesn't know how.
So.... an idea for salt au: Spamton believes that the player is giving him an alternate route to get free. That he's convinced that the player has given him an alternate escape route (not able to get Kris out but is able to get Spamton out).
Maybe Spamton is aware that finding his keys isn't part of the original route, aware that something weird is going on, but perhaps he embraces this. He wants to trust by breaking the game, he can get free too. However, he is also aware of the player's power, and over time he gets more and more suspicious and distressed at what exactly he's getting caught in. However, he gets manipulated, he listens, he is still a puppet on a string as much as he doesn't want to be.
Which leads to the end, the game is "broken". Nothing works. It's just Spamton and the player (Kris can't even move anymore. Their strings? They're cut, but stuck here). So it loops and loops forever, until finally.... you let Spamton go. You tell him you're not proud of him.
There was no point in doing this. You take the character that knows too much about this world and still, you couldn't escape. Instead, everything is broken down, monotonous.
This was not a true path to go down. This was no way to be free and now you're trapped forever.
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coolfire333 · 2 years
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I don’t think this is true for all of his quotes, but what if Spamton is trying to say “sun” in some of his instances of [Hyperlink Blocked]?
He mentions Kris as “having the light” and that his eyes burn looking at their soul, and his “IT BURNS” dialogue in the Japanese translation more specifically implies that the “burning” is his eyes burning from looking at something too bright.
And the background of his shop is painted with a bright blue sky, white clouds, and perhaps most noticeably, a big yellow sun:
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In this line in particular, I think he’s trying to describe the sun:
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Here, he seems to be making a play on lines like “vacationing in paradise while you soak in the sun” that you sometimes see in vacation commercials. There’s also a direct mention of “burning acid” that could be another allusion to the light of the sun hurting his eyes
There’s also this line:
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I think he’s saying “sun” in this instanced based on the fact that he mentions “in the morning.” It could be something else (I find the idea other people have brought up of it being LOVE/LV/love both fitting and funny), but when you replace his words, the line “and sometimes in the morning, a little sun sounds good” makes sense. Alternatively, it could be “sunshine” or “sunlight” in place of [Hyperlink Blocked], but either way, I think he might be trying to describe wanting to see a sunrise or the bright light of the morning sun. 
And maybe the reason why he’s not allowed to say “sun” is that it’s a lightner word, and whatever happened to him that caused him to be corrupted has barred him from saying words exclusive to light world concepts. Spamton is able to say heart (as in “lonely hearts” or “heartshapedobject”) because, as we see during the neo fight, that’s not something only lightners can have. Cyber city has lights (neon signs) and a moon (albeit a fake one), but no sun, so this means he’s unable to say “sun.” Spamton also seems unable to say “soul” at first, instead alluding to it as “the light” and calling it a “heartshapedobject”
BUT when he becomes neo, he clearly says that it’s Kris’s SOUL he wants, and there’s also a buildup to the moment where he says it, similar to the buildup before he first says [Hyperlink Blocked] in his first appearance in the alley. It’s almost as if he’s testing to see if he can really say it this time, either that or he’s just dragging out the “reveal” of what he wants for dramatic salesman reasons, just like when he was saying Kris “wanted” [Hyperlink Blocked]
The body he fused with was a lightner’s creation, so maybe that allowed him to say those words again. It makes me wonder, was he ever able to say those words, did he just lose the ability when he fell from grace? Ralsei also names the soul, but can other darkners say those words, or would they also be unable to? 
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Watch me go on anon for deltarune requests only--
Okay. This is stupid but. Reader really likes to hug Lancer?? He looks so huggable fr. Platonic relationship would be best!
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I too would also love to hug Lancer. He's just so round and adorable! I considered buying the Lancer plush but it sold out before I had the chance. Now, I hope you enjoy this! It was a lot of fun to write.
⚔Mod Peko⚔
You’re pretty much Lancer’s parent in this one (and maybe susie’s if this story continued)
“Lancer you can’t go that way remember! You set all those traps for the Fun Gang to the left.” You quickly run up to the small child before he can walk right into his own trap. Picking him up, you bring him into an embrace. Lancer wraps his pudgy arms around your neck. He takes a minute to look at the two paths before looking up at you.
“Well honk my whistle! You’re right. See this is why you’re the best evil knight. Those clowns won’t know what hit them!”
“How about I carry you the rest of the way. If you walk you’ll get too tired to fight the heroes.”
“Hohohoho! What a great idea [Name]! See, it was brilliant to convince Lesser Dad to let you be my dark knight.” Lancer gleamed as he climbed his way up to your shoulders. He liked sitting up there. He says it gives him great practice for when he builds his elevated throne that will also be on fire…..You weren’t so sure about the fire.
Originally, you just babysat Lancer to help Rouxls get a break once in a while. But eventually you became his knight in a shining cape. The cape is from Lancer. He said that armor was too clownish and even got your name embroidered onto the back of it.
A lot of the time you felt like Lancer’s parent. Sometimes he would even slip up and call you his Lesser Parent. And honestly you love him like you would love your own child. He’s just so cute and small you can’t help but want to hug him and support him through whatever weird interests he has.
Now you had no plans to fight the Fun Gang. You mostly just wanted to keep the small boy entertained. And you could tell that the Lighteners know that Lancer means no harm. As long as Lancer was safe you knew you wouldn’t have to fight.
“When we find the Lighteners you have to use your super cool Dark Knight Magic against them!”
“Of course Lancer! I’ll make sure to whip those fools into shape.” No you won’t.
Coming to the end of the checkered light floor you set Lancer down on the ground. Upon his instructions you and Lancer get into menacing poses for when the Lighteners show up. About 20 minutes pass and your arms are getting sore. Another 10 minutes is when the Fun Gang decides to finally show up.
“Well, stomp on my boots! The Fun Clowns arrive. Well you’re going to have to fight to the extreme. For my Dark Knight will give you a proper beating!” The metaphorical camera pans to you. If fanfictions had sound effects there would be a squeaky toy noise. You are then brought into the battle, the heroes drawing their weapons. The boy clad in green calls out to you telling you that Susie would attack. This lets you have a chance to dodge the axe swing.
“Hohoho! It’s time for their super powered dark move! It’ll bring an end to you, Lighteners.”
It is now your turn. You would use your biggest attack if this were a real battle. But for now one of your simple attacks will do. Pulling back your cape you bring your arm up and cast ‘Dark Wind!’. A current picks up in the air and a rain of purple glitter falls over the Fun Gang, decreasing their attack by 20 percent.
Kris pulls up their act menu and notices that your name is already yellow. You didn’t actually want to fight do you? Bringing Ralsei to the side they sign something to him. They were happy someone here was able to understand them. After Kris was done signing Ralsei turned to you and Lancer with a happy glow.
“Excuse me, could we perhaps have a time out. The move really got us beat and we would like to give your Dark Knight some praise.” Susie gave the two a confused, and mildly angry, look.
Lancer quite comically brought his hand up to his chin. You could practically see a thought bubble appear above his head. “Hmm. Well you losers!!! are as good as dead anyway! It’ll be good for my knight’s self esteem to hear some praise. Go ahead, Lighteners.”
Walking up to you Ralsei leans in to whisper in your ear. “We know you don’t want to fight...well Kris and I more than Susie. How about we put on a small show for Lancer. I’ll cast one of my pacify spells and put you to sleep for a bit.” You take a moment to ponder before nodding in agreement.
You both walk back to your places and the battle continues. Kris holds up their shield in defense and orders Ralsei to “attack”. Narrowly dodging Susie’s axe you ready yourself for Ralsei’s spell. The prince casts his spell and a wave of sleepiness rushes over you. In your sleepy daze you do not see or hear Lancer let out a dramatic gasp.
Opening your eyes you see that same checkered floor. Looking around Susie is standing behind you with Lancer at her side. Why is she on your side now? Standing up, Lancer bounces up to you in excitement.
“Hohoho! [Name]! Susie has joined our evil dark forces. Now we can finally have a use for that third matching cape Lesser Dad refused to wear!”
“This wasn’t the plan….” Poor little Ralsei mopes.
“Enough of you squares! We have to go and plan our next evil move! And figure out which pg rated comedy we will be watching at our diabolical sleepover.”
Snickering Susie yells in agreement. “Yeah! Squares!! You’ll be crushed in the dirt….What was that last part.”
“See you Clowns later! If you can even survive that long!” Lancer then turns to you with his arms up making grabby hands. Leaning down you let him climb up onto your shoulders...Sorry, his temporary evil throne.
With a smile you look at Suise. “Would you like to be carried as well?” This flusters the purple girl.
“What?! No!.....m-maybe later...Ugh! Wait! No, let's just go plot already.” She quickly makes her way into the dark forest. You, with Lancer on your shoulders, follow her. Leaving behind Kris and Ralsei.
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