#you down with fdc?

[eclipse-colony]

"down with fdc?" More like down with specifically YOU!!!

Considering this is basically the same thing a member of fdc said on the post featuring my blog I’m left to assume you looked for and found my blog specifically to say this to me directly. All that does is prove my point that fdc encourages harassment of the people posted and that the censorship rule does nothing to actually protect people’s privacy.

Fdc has no way of fact checking if the people they claim to be faking disorders are and most of its users are so karma happy that they end up looking for systems or people with other disorders and post their content without so much as a look into the person. We aren’t seen as people but instead targets of mockery and a source of validation for the posters.

I made my down with fdc post without having been posted there myself because I have seen the harm and paranoia it causes for people. Many of those that state online their mental health conditions and experiences do so because they are looking for community and support from others who actually have the disorder not those you haven’t lived with it or doctors, that form of emotional and professional support is valuable and needed but sometimes what we need is to talk to someone who has similar life experiences.

Users on fdc like the one that posted me are a prime example of what I see as way the sub is harmful. The person who posted me had stalked and made a whole “saga” posting one blog for several days in a row, their first post had incredibly poor censoring which led to another system searching their url and messaging them to let them know anyone that saw the post could find them easily, they responded which led the fdc op whom was stalking their page to post systems2 carrd which contained their system name and can also be easily found.

I then had my down with fdc post reblogged by system2 which led to the fdc op posting me as well.

My point is the fdc poster had been posting several days in a row on system1 blog and the blogs that interacted with it. How anyone sees this as anything but obsessive I don’t know.

Some fdc posters such as the one that posted me also actively seek out and invade safe spaces for systems so that they can post them to be made fun of.

Another issue with fdc is the fact that they do not take take down requests for posts even if a person was to prove their diagnosis I know this because others have asked on the fdc discord. Fdc mods have also banned and muted people for sharing US government articles stating the actual statistics of DID specifically claiming it to be misinformation.

Another reason I have such a strong dislike for fdc is due to the fact that most people that are posted do suffer from mental disorders. Even if they are right and the person posted is faking (which the posters have no way of proving.) purposefully faking a disorder is a disorder called Munchausen syndrome and those suffering from it still deserve kindness respect and treatment.

I understand this response is long and you probably won’t read or that you’ll just screenshot it and put it on fdc so you can get karma but I hope that you’ll actually process what I’ve said.

-V

#system #fdc #down with fdc i say #neurodivergent #seriously this just proves my point that you sought me out just to say something you already said on Reddit #Reddit sucks

[goldlogie]

Good news everyone, I have added more Fontaines DC songs to the Gerry playlist

#flood warning #he’s in his 70s and he hears I Love You for the first time (he’s trying to be a Cool Old Man and listen to what the kids are listening to) #and it just hits a nerve and unearths all of the trauma he’s been squashing down for decades and decades #anyway #I know old!Gerry ends up being the biggest fdc fan

[deep-dive]

2023

albums/eps: a.s.o. - a.s.o. Amaarae - Fountain Baby Amnesia Scanner & Freeka Tet - STROBE.RIP André 3000 - New Blue Sun ANOHNI and the Johnsons - My Back Was a Bridge for You to Cross Anthony Naples - Orbs bar italia - Tracey Denim Beach Fossils - Bunny Ben Vida, Yarn/Wire & Nina Dante - The Beat My Head Hit Beverly Glenn-Copeland - The Ones Ahead Biosphere - N-Plants Blonde Redhead - Sit Down for Dinner Bored Lord - Name It Call Super - Eulo Cramps Carly Rae Jepsen - The Loveliest Time Caroline Polachek - Desire, I Want to Turn Into You Chuquimamani-Condori - DJ E Cole Police - If I Don’t See You in the Future, I’ll See You in the Pasture Dean Blunt - Give me a moment DJ Lostboi - Music for Landings DJ Sabrina the Teenage DJ - Destiny Double Virgo - hardrive heat seeking Eartheater - Powders The Embassy - E-Numbers Everything But the Girl - Fuse Fever Ray - Radical Romantics Freak Heat Waves - Mondo Tempo Headache - The Head Hurts but the Heart Knows the Truth Hiroyuki Onogawa - August in the Water: Music for Film 1995-2005 Jam City - Jam City Presents EFM James Ivy - Everything Perfect Jessy Lanza - Love Hallucination Jim Legxacy - homeless n****a pop music Joanne Robertson - Blue Car Jonnine - Maritz Kelela - Raven Khotin - Release Spirit Kota Hoshino, Shoi Miyazawa - Armored Core VI OST Laurel Halo - Atlas Loraine James - Gentle Confrontation Maria BC - Spike Field mark william lewis - Living Matmos - Return to Archive MIZU - Distant Intervals ML Buch - Suntub Noriko Tujiko - Crépuscule I & II Nourished by Time - Erotic Probiotic 2 Oneohtrix Point Never - Again Osmotic & Fennesz - Senzatetto Pierre Rousseau - Mémoire De Forme Purelink - Signs Ryuichi Sakamoto - 12 Sofia Courtesies - Madres ssaliva - sector6park/counterfeit Sufjan Stevens - Javelin Tim Hecker - No Highs Tirzah - trip9love…??? Wild Nothing - Hold Yves Tumor - Praise a Lord Who Chews but Which Does Not Consume; (Or Simply, Hot Between Worlds) µ-Ziq - 1977 7038634357 - Neo Seven

songs: a.s.o. - Love in the Darkness Addison Rae - I got it bad Alex Kassian - Leave Your Life (Lonely Hearts Mix) Amaarae - Reckless & Sweet Amnesia Scanner & Freeka Tet - Clown André - Ants To You, Gods To Who ? ANOHNI and the Johnsons - Can’t ANOHNI and the Johnsons - It Must Change Anthony Naples - Silas Armin van Buuren & Punctual - On & On (ft. Alina) bambinodj - High as Ever Still Passin' Through (Remix) bar italia - Nocd Baths - Do I Make the World Worse Beach Fossils - Don’t Fade Away Beverly Glenn-Copeland - People of the Loon Bibio & Óskar Guðjónsson - Sunbursting Björk & Rosalía - Oral Blawan - Toast Bored Lord - Wait Wait Wait bvdub - Days on Heaven and Earth Call Super - Coppertone Elegy Carly Rae Jensen - Psychedelic Switch Caroline Polachek - Bunny Is a Rider (Doss Remix) Caroline Polachek - Crude Drawing of an Angel Chuquimamani-Condori - Eat My Cum Chuquimamani-Condori - Know Dean Blunt - Rinsed (ft. TYSON) Dj Lostboi - PUF 2 LAX DJ Sabrina the Teenage DJ - For Now and Forever Double Virgo - gainfully deployed EASYFUN - Long Long Time The Embassy - Amnesia ESP - North Fever Ray - Kandy Freak Heat Waves & Cindy Lee - In a Moment Divine Fwea-Go Hit - Back Wildin Headache - That Thing with the Rabbit Headache - Truism 4 Dummies Hemlocke Springs - sever the blight Hudson Mohawke & Nikki Nair - Demuro Ike - Rose Quartz Jam City - Magnetic James K & hoodie - Ether Jessy Lanza - Don’t Cry On My Pillow Jim Legxacy - amnesia111 Jim Legxacy - candy reign (!) Jonnine - Tea For Two (Boo) Kelela - Divorce Khotin - Computer Break (Late Mix) Kylie Minogue - Hold on to Now Laurel Halo, Bendik Giske, Lucy Railton & James Underwood - Earthbound Loraine James - Tired of Me Lorenzi - Lonely Cowboy Tales (Crayon Moon Remix) LSDXOXO - Devil’s Chariot Maria BC - Still Maria BC - Watcher mark william lewis - Living Mc LcKaiique, MC Celo BK & DJ Jeeh FDC - Quem Tá de Motão, Vou Sarrar Puta Na Marcone (ft. DJ Biel Divulga) ML Buch - High speed calm air tonight Nation & Ecco2k - Ça Va Nicole Dollanganger - Gold Satin Dreamer Nourished by Time - Rain Water Promise Oliver Coates - One Without Oneohtrix Point Never - Krumville Purelink - We Should Keep Going Shoi Miyazawa - Rough and Decent Slayyyter - Miss Belladonna Sufjan Stevens - Shit talk Tim Hecker - Total Garbage Tirzah - u all the time Troye Sivan - Got Me Started Wild Nothing - Suburban Solutions Yves Tumor - Echolalia Yves Tumor - Fear Evil Like Fire µ-Ziq - 4am

mixes: CFCF - CFCF for TERMINAL 27 Chuquimamani-Condori - Fact Mix 937 PC Music - 10 Physical Therapy - car culture remissions vol. 4 plush - LIVE AT SKSKSKSK S-candalo - Fact Mix 897 WHY BE - OdyXxey Radio Mix

movies: Afire (Christian Petzold) All the Beauty and the Bloodshed (Laura Poitras) E6-D7 (Eno Swinnen) Evil Dead Rise (Lee Cronin) Grown in Darkness (Devin Shears) How Do You Live? (Hayao Miyazaki) The Killer (David Fincher) Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese) Knock at the Cabin (M. Night Shyamalan) Last Summer (Catherine Breillat) May December (Todd Haynes) Oppenheimer (Christopher Nolan) The Outwaters (Robbie Banfitch) Rotting in the Sun (Sebastián Silva) Showing Up (Kelly Reichardt) The Zone of Interest (Jonathan Glazer)

games: Alan Wake II Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon Baldur’s Gate III Blasphemous II Diablo IV Humanity Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Lies of P Metroid Prime Remastered Octopath Traveler II Pikmin 4 Star Ocean: The Second Story R Super Mario Bros. Wonder Theatrhythm Final Bar Line Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty

[sophieinwonderland]

r/SystemsCringe: *Claims to aim to help "real systems" and revives r/DIDCringe for that purpose* > Also r/SystemsCringe: *Fakeclaims and makes fun of people with DID and OSDD* You can't both support people with mental disorders and bully them. r/FDC at least PRETENDS to only go after fakers, but these people on the other hand are very open about attacking traumatized people (even the name itself, r/DIDCringe, is inherently looking down on people with DID. Shame on Reddit for reviving it...).

☝️

#Nothing to add. This sums the situation up perfectly! #syscourse #sysblr #multiplicity #reddit #bullies #cyberbullying #ableism #ableists #r/didcringe #r/systemscringe #hate group #hate groups

[wyrddogs]

Listened to the FDC podcast episode with Dr Danika Bannasch on chondrodystrophy (CDDY). It was not dachshund-specific; since she breeds tollers she mostly focused on them. Here are my notes:

IVDD (intervertebral disc disease) is not the same thing as IVDH (intervertebral disc herniation). Dr Bannasch considers CDDY and IVDD to be interchangeable.

CDDY variant: Abnormal intervertebral discs. Can have bouts of back pain. Can have disc herniation. All discs are "diseased".

Not all dogs with disc herniation show clinical signs.

All CDDY dogs (in her study on tollers) have signs of diseased discs, but not all had clinical signs that the owners noticed. So not all CDDY dogs are brought in for medical care.

She emphasized that CDDY causes short legs, not long backs. So CDDY shows up in a lot of breeds that you wouldn't expect-- tollers, Portuguese water dogs, beagles, Chesapeake bay retrievers, etc. because the phenotype is shorter legs, not longer backs.

She feels that IVDH is the most painful disease in veterinary medicine.

The CDDY mutation is dominant. It is a "gain of function" mutation. There is no "normal" gene; it is an insertion of an entire gene on a chromosome where it does not belong.

There is a difference in calcification risk between dogs with one versus two copies of the CDDY mutation, but there is no difference in herniation risk with one or two copies.

All beagles are homozygous for CDDY. You cannot "fix" this unless you do an outcross. In breeds where the allele frequency is lower, you can select against it. But be careful-- if the frequency of the allele is high enough, there can be consequences if you remove all CDDY dogs from the gene pool.

Usual recommendations-- keep dogs lean and fit, avoid landing hard if possible, stairs seem to help. Pay attention to subtle signs of pain, eg. refusing to do things they like.

CDDY prematurely degenerates the discs. So a younger dog has "older" discs. All discs degenerate as dogs age, but a dog with CDDY degenerates faster.

What does CDDY do? It makes the legs a little shorter and the skull a little wider. Dr Bannasch believes it rounds the ear tips. This is a desirable phenotype (it seems to win in the show ring), so breeders selected for it before we knew it was bad.

Chondrodysplasia (CDPA) is not associated with IVDD but also produces short legs. Some breeds only have CDDY, some only have CDPA, and some have both. [Note: Dachshunds have both, but CDDY is more common.]

In a breed where there are a lot of homozygotes, it will take a long time to remove CDDY. First you will have to produce heterozygotes, then you will have to produce homozygotes of CDPA.

Chondrodysplasia (CDPA) may be associated with valgus (deformed/bowed legs) and elbow issues. So its not totally innocuous.

As a breeder, she worries about producing a dog that would experience back pain, or have a herniation event, or sell a dog to someone who cannot afford the $12,000 surgery.

X-rays are not great at detecting calcification. CT scans are a bit better, but much more expensive. They've been screening in Europe for a while, and have not seen much improvement. She has not seen much evidence that the amount of calcification correlates with the possibility of a disc herniation event. MRIs look at hydration status, and still aren't great at predicting herniation events, and are super fucking expensive. There are no good screening tests for predicting disc herniation.

Dr Bannasch has dealt with a lot of anger and pushback from breeders for her work on CDDY. Whenever she feels down about it, she goes into the neuro ward to look at the surgery patients for disc herniation events. Then she is rejuvinated to continue her research.

#ivdd #intervertebral disc disease #long post #canine health #there is some FDC nonsense that I'm like. what. at #but most of the episode is very informative

[fdcreviewswithmark]

Guess who's back?

Hi, I'm Mark. Today I'm just looking at FakeDisorderCringe. Due to the blackout, a lot of cringe subreddits shut down, but FDC is still viewable. The posts are probably gonna be old, but who cares.

(Note: some posts will be skipped)

So, here we go.

1. Nonverbal person makes communication cards that are a little funny, so that means they're obviously faking! /sarc

2. Autistic person putting down self diagnosed autistics in the form of memes.

3. Asking questions isn't allowed, you can't question if you have a disorder- at least according to the post in question.

4. A minor-bodied (likely introject heavy) system has alters and in-system relationships. None of these prove they are faking. Some systems, especially with particular trauma and especially in the age of the internet, will find out they're a system easier and Introject more often. In-system relationships happen- big fucking whoop. I hate FDC sometimes... They also use the boundaries and triggers of some alters as "evidence" of being fake which is really shitty. If someone is uncomfortable with something, don't be an ass about it.

(not e from Adam: they screenshotted the system's rentries. Dunno, just makes me feel weird that they went through a whole system's rentries, taking pictures, and then highlighting random things that bother them.)

5. Stimming means you're faking in the eyes of random people on the internet.

6. Introject(?) of monster can in a newly discovered system that doesn't know systems don't need amnesia. Introjects can be basically anything so no idea how any of this proves they're faking.

7. Person with more than one disorder makes meme. Obviously people can't have more than one disorder! /s

8. System doesn't remember childhood. Gets fakeclaimed because, in the OP's words: "Can't remember every detail of my life, must be a system." Despite the OOP never saying that. Literally making up arguments to get angry at.

9. Another poster that doesn't know the definition of stimming... (Self stimulation.)

10. Saying random people have Munchausen's because..... *Checks notes* they self-diagnose.

11. An for autistic women event is inclusive towards self-diagnosed autistics and that's... Bad?

12. Neurodivergent person, likely a minor, in crutches makes a joke on TikTok. Gets posted.

(Note from Adam: It's weird they posted a minor, and it's also weird that they didn't know that physical issues are common in folks with neurodevelopmental disorders. For people who spend their time claiming people are fake on the internet, they sure don't do their research!)

13. Person with DID on TikTok. Probably a minor. That's... The reasons for fakeclaiming them.

14. Person with autism does something silly, means they're faking and are just a silly neurotypical. /s

15. Systems exist.

(Note from Jonah: fucking dying rn)

16. Self-diagnosed autists can mask. Shocker.

17. System makes meme about the parts of being a system that aren't necessarily pain and suffering. (EX: forgetting simple objects!)

(Note from multiple alters: Weird how FDC fakeclaims autists for being covert, and then fakeclaims people with CDDs for being overt- oh wait nevermind they fakeclaim both for being both overt and covert. They just can't decide, can they???)

18. Things are stims. FDC gets mad. Everyone knows the drill by now.

19. OP is mad that there's more systems. Maybe, just fucking maybe, it's because the disorder is getting more recognition and therefore more people can realize they have it, and the lessening of stigmatization encourages people to be open about it. The more you know!

(Note from multiple alters: I guess people can't recognize their own symptoms anymore! Fml. Literally- I guess that means we're faking? Yeah, guess we're faking since we saw our own systems and recognized what was going on. Well, more like we recognized our symptoms when compared to the diagnostic criteria? Still, guess we don't exist. I wonder what they'll say about people who recognize their own symptoms and then go get diagnosed with something! Are they faking too, now???)

20. A person recorded their faintng spell for educational purposes. They said themselves that they were getting a bit loopy but were conscious enough to recognize they were getting there.

Gonna end it here. Thanks to whoever read our whole post. Hope you enjoyed the combined idiocy of our system and that dreaded subreddit. Have a nice whatever.

#anti fakeclaiming #fakedisordercringe

[narcissisticpdcultureis]

Npd + Hpd culture is wanting to post yourself on FDC so people will obsess over you (and consequently having to talk myself down from doing that) -👾

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#npd culture is #npd + hpd culture is #npd #actually narcissistic #actually npd #narcissistic personality disorder #cluster b #hpd #histrionic personality disorder #-👾

[losttapescollective]

I just wanna talk about FDC and SC for a second but if we want it to get taken down and have people stop posting us we need to create such an uproar that it becomes a risk to reddit themselves and their brand. If you have even a tiny platform scream about these reddits don't let them keeping spreading misinformation. Use your platform we need to be loud idc if your anti or pro Endo we need to put our differences aside and realize this subreddit dose no good they don't even believe systems can exist and have even claimed that there is no research on DID. We need to come together be loud and make sure our voices are heard we can't just let them harrass systems let alone minors. We need to spread how awful of a subreddit this is that reddit themselves can't look away from this anymore. If you have a platform, use it. Your singlet and have a platform use it. Your a system and have a platform use it. We can't just let them harrass whoever they want. I'm tired of them sitting on their little high horse while spreading abeilst bull crap. Use your platform be loud, go to places outside the system community talk about make people aware. We can't just let them harrass people so they can get some attention. Be loud and use your platform to take down system cringe and fakingdisordercringe

#all these tags are to get this around we dont support these tags unless states otherwise #anti endo #pro endo #tulpa #DID #OSDD #endogenic #tramuagenic #system #autism #all systems are vaild #discourse #syscourse #reblog this #text post #petition #neurodivergent #disabled #anti tulpa #tulpa safe #tulpa system #endo system

[satyrradio]

Hey bestie thanks so much for the heads up about the FDC subreddit! What do I do now? Do I go to that post and explain myself or do I ask for the post to be taken down? This has never happened to me before :/

idk, maybe? i'm not sure, i just wanted to let you know so you were aware. sorry

#asks

[shit-talk-turner]

i think Louise knows that Alex isn’t still 100% into her like he might have been from 2018-2020. why does she become so snappy and rude when someone mentions him in her comments. what does she expect? she’s the girlfriend of the lead singer of one of the biggest bands in the world. she takes it as if she’s been with him since the start of their career. Her being on this holiday and him travelling to NYC makes it seem like they’re not as close as they would have been. i don’t know if any mods have seen the video of Alex leaving the venue of FDC’s show but he is looking down at his phone possibly texting Louise. but if she’s on her way back (or is back) i’m not surprised that he isn’t in Paris too see her after how ever long it was. anyways sorry if none of this makes sense i just wanted to dump everything i have been thinking ☺️

no worries thank you for sharing! We could have also been texting anyone or reading the news or ordering an Uber, who knows! But yes, it’s weird if he had down time and made a choice to NOT spend it with her

[hazedxhealing]

What signs of faking did you learn from r/fdc? How can you recognize if someone is faking?

Learn? From r/FDC? Nothing. I learned the signs well before even joined the subreddit, via the same research and cross studying I’ve mentioned in the last few answers.

I just cross reference what I already know with the posts in the subred and wowie.

It’s not the system size, or aesthetic, or pronouns or any of that superficial stuff.

It’s the rate at which alters form, they can only form in situations where you are retraumatized or in a trauma response state, they cannot form from simple just ingesting media.

Not taking system accountability is a big thing within fakers, they tend to point fingers instead of taking responsibility for the body’s actions as a whole. There is no “it wasn’t me it was (insert alter)”, if they did it, you did it.

It’s the misinformation that fakers spread, such as DID forming from just stress, or your mom being mad at you, etc. DID forms only in instances of severe repeated childhood trauma. Severe physical trauma, SA/CSA, severe mental/emotional trauma. Has to be severe enough to break down the psyche and it has to be repeated, it’s not one singular event.

Also the big one of blaming ppl who are diagnosed for them not being diagnosed, with “you’re lucky you have trauma”, “you don’t deserve your trauma”, etc.

FDC hasn’t taught me anything of what I know. I taught me. I took the initiative to learn what I know.

#anti endo #anti endogenic #endos dni #syscourse #endos aren't real #tw syscourse #endos shut the fuck up challenge (impossible) #did is a disorder #fake disorder cringe #(still advocating) #(no longer questioning)

[eclipse-colony]

Can we talk about fdc

So if you don’t know FDC or r/fakedisordercringe is a subreddit where people post videos or screenshots of people (a lot of times systems.) and claim that the person is faking their disorder.

They are insulting, attacking, and mocking already marginalized groups. The posts on fdc can lead to users harassing the victims on other social media.

It is very difficult to report a subreddit and it is difficult reporting every post. “White knighting” aka defending yourself or those posted gets your account banned.

Reddit staff are often times unhelpful and useless, but there is a higher authority that can help. Advance publications owns Reddit if enough people report the subreddit to them, they could change things.

I have emailed them and I’m encouraging everyone else who has the time and energy to do the same. Their email is [email protected]

Down with FDC

-v

#traumagenic system #osdd system #system #neurodivergent #disability #fdc #autism #bpd #mental health #reddit

[kekisu]

putting it in my dni would be too niche because system discourse isnt in most peoples radar but im just gonna say: any sort of endogenic or protogenic or tulpagenic etc, doesnt exist and youre literally just roleplaying or have identity issues completely separate from having a serious dissociative disorder

idk ive been involving myself in system spaces more recently cause i need resources and community (guess who split recently and is struggling a bit to cope with it!) and its like frustrating to see this very real disorder be boiled down to roleplaying as your favorite blorbos whenever you want and systemhopping bullshit

that being said i need to put this out there i hate fakeclaimers especially when they dont have did/osdd like fdc and syscringe can all kill themselves theres no other way to put it KILL THESE GUYS WITH HAMMERS but this is different cause its Legitimately just going against decades of research and theories for the sake of saying you have bakugou in your head and youre looking for deku so you can sysdate

#btw dont take this as a slight against fictives or any introjects at all i have many of them myself #IM a fictive. but yeah whatever #fictive heavy systems are completely fine im just roasting endos cause i swear. #they Just roleplay

[sophieinwonderland]

“Oh we haven’t checked up on Sophie’s blog today let see how she is doing-“ sees a r/FDC post “aww FUCK it’s back and it somehow spawned the most disturbing take yet.”

The disturbing takes get worse!

Doubling down on the "self-diagnosing hurts people who actually have the disorder" guilt trip.

Doubling further down on this.

Also, not sure why they're so convinced their partner doesn't have DID. Or, for that matter, is claiming to have DID. Because they very well may not have noticed if their partner had DID, but that's also not something they claimed to have according to the original post. They just said they were plural.

And... you know, I think if they actually loved their partner, they would care about their partner's health. Like the last ask mentioned, this mindset is extremely anti-recovery. If their partner had a dissociative disorder, acknowledging it now would be a huge help, and that seems more important than the nebulous people they think could be "harmed" by them mis-self-diagnosing.

Do you think that she didn't "drop it" so much as she just stopped talking to her partner because she was rejected and attacked, and the relationship fell apart due to a breakdown of communication that followed?

No. That's definitely one of the most problematic things here.

It's incredibly messed up that r/systemscringe is moving to actively encouraging people to invade the privacy of their partners and downvoting anyone who point out how wrong that is.

#syscourse #system #multiplicity #systems #system discourse #actually a system #pro endo #pro endogenic #real system #systemscringe #r/systemscringe #fakedisordercringe #fake disorder cringe #r/fdc #fdc #sanism #fakeclaiming #ableism #ableists #hate groups #hate group

[circulars-reasoning]

Each Community Has It's Problems...

In particular, this post is going to address my time in the pro-endo community. JAS made a very good vent post in 2021 about some of those issues, explaining how it created some distaste for him for endogenics in general. It's been circulating again and I wanted to add on a few things. Thought I would make my own post, though, as my thoughts are separate from his.

This post isn't as nuanced as they always will be, but I wanted to be able to share these things. Anyone is allowed to interact with this post!

First off, this phrase "plural is what you want it to be" is something I see on a daily basis in the inclusive servers I'm currently in, and it's something I saw quite a bit in the plural spaces I used to be in. Essentially, "plural" as a label is for anyone - singlets included - so long as they feel the term is "right" for them, or helps them.

I have an innate distaste for this. The reason I do is because of how that mentality was used to hurt and abuse me repeatedly, as a now diagnosed DID system.

When I first joined plural spaces, I was constantly fucking fakeclaimed by pro/endos. I was constantly told I was autigenic, that I was mixed-origin at best, that my trauma "wasn't enough" - because I couldn't describe any. But it wasn't fakeclaiming the likes of what we see on FDC. It was "loving" and "caring."

I express needing desperate help, because I'm having panic attacks and have no idea why. "Have you considered it's your autism and you're melting down? Is someone else internally stressed about school?" No, I was having flashbacks to my trauma and instantly forgetting what I had seen in my mind, because I wasn't ready to see it. So I sat, and puzzled, and accepted that I Was Just Like This. After all, everyone else around me was "just like that," and they had their own strategies to help them - none of which seemed to help me. So I became incredibly defeatist. I believed I was just going to always be a dysfunctional plural, because I couldn't lock away my alters like was suggested. I couldn't push away the trauma stressors in my life.

Plural spaces inherently encouraged me to ignore my trauma, because they offered a million different options for what I was actually experiencing. And it was like being traumagenic was taboo - if you were traumagenic, you were pushed away into a corner, told you could party with the rest of them if you kept it under wraps. I join servers to this day where discussions of dormancy, splitting, integration, and fusion - all incredibly fundamental parts of my disorder and healing from my disorder - are part of blacklists. "We don't want to trigger anyone!" Have you considered what you're actually doing is blacklisting the healing process those like me require? Integration is inherent for healing from DID, but it's blacklisted in numerous servers I've seen and subsequently left.

The endogenic community strongly encourages further dissociation as well. Alters should be different; distinct. I've seen it encouraged to watch new media to "make new fictives." Source-calls encouraging introjects to connect deeper to sources, even date random strangers who "are from the same source" (not a thing). Everything I've seen in plural spaces focuses on being, well, Multiple People, and supporting that strongly - and working against that goal is frowned upon (i.e., final fusion being discussed as being death).

Those spaces also incredibly support unhealthy coping mechanisms for those like me who have DID. Maybe others are finding good resources out there in plural spaces, but... I'll talk about dissociation and be linked to PluralPedia. I'll ask about how to stay awake on a long drive, and be told "just force yourself to rapid switch, because a new alter will be fresh and awake!" (Hello, crashing my car).

I think that's as much time and energy as I have today. I just... I definitely understand the unease. I have been so greatly hurt in endo spaces, and while the inclusive spaces I am in now are better than those I was in previously - with more acknowledgment that those who say they have a disorder should be believed - there are still problems with Everything Being Valid If It Helps, with no recognition of the fact that, when you're maladaptive already, hurting yourself badly can look a lot like helping.

#Syscourse #I couldn't write up everything because I'm overstimulated atm #But yeah #Armageddon Comes While I'm Sleeping

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So, I'm back. I haven't checked FDC in a while, nor SystemsCringe. I decided that today, I'm gonna be doing a review of both, in one.

So yeah 2-for-1 review, let's goooooo-

I'm doing 10 reviews in this post.

Note: DON'T HARASS ANYONE IN THE REVIEWS. They may be fuckwads, but we don't need to be fuckwads too.

1. From FDC - Tagged as Autism, titled "Very gross." - The post in question is a video from TikTok. A person, who I assume is a minor- though I could be wrong- is criticising diagnosed autistics who are against self-diagnosed autistics or those without a diagnosis, saying they're "Not iconic, you are just like them all". Based on the context, I believe that the person in the video is self-diagnosed autistic. The OP is calling them very gross for... Being self diagnosed? Well, that's nothing new for FDC.

2. From FDC - Tagged as Autism, titled "straight up offensive". - I assume the post is from TikTok. It's another young person, who is just showing that autism can present in a lot of different ways, and it can even change on an individual level. Sometimes it's debilitating, sometimes it's beautiful, or curious, or overwhelming, it can be cool, pretty, draining and depressing, and it can be happy and free. The end finishes up with a note that "autism is not a line scale you can place people on" and such. And... I don't see how this is offensive in the slightest???

3. From SystemsCringe - tagged as Fake DID/OSDD (Good job forgetting that the rest of CDDs exist! What more could anyone expect from that shithole, though. -Adam) - The post is an alter that had formed an hour ago. The OP immediately criticizes this for some of the dumbest, most absurd reasons I've heard. They say that the alter shouldn't be able to know how to type, write, understand anything... And then goes off on just a rant, criticising the alter for making an intro at all. Oh, and before that, they fucking went on a separate rant about "oh something traumatic must've happened that day" and then immediately goes to "shut up, you're making a mockery of actual systems." People on SystemsCringe tend to not do basic research or use any thoughts or insight in these things. If they did, they would know that alters don't work like that for one, and two, sometimes parts will split after an event. It's called Post-traumatic for a damn reason. And this? This is all just the first damn slide of the introduction. There are 13 fucking slides. 13 slides of sheer stupidity and misinformation. This is why I think that SC is worse than FDC when it comes to bashing those they dislike. And, no, I'm not gonna review the other 12 pages of dumbfuckery.

4. From FDC - Tagged as Other Disorders, titled "I hAvE sChIzOpHrEnIa!!!!!!" - The post is clearly of someone in heavy distress on- you guessed it, the only place which FDC targets anymore- TikTok. The person claims that they're being forced to move out in 2 weeks, and they don't have somewhere to go. They go on to say that they think they're having a schizophrenic attack. Basically, the poster is calling the person in the video fake. The person who is breaking down on video, seen getting progressively more distressed over what's happening.

(Okay, note/rant from multiple alters here- That post? This one that we're talking about? We'd say it's heartless but that's an insult to heartless people. This is someone who's in extreme distress over a horrible situation, someone with schizophrenia who's being forced out of their living space with only 2 weeks to find a new one, and all OP can think about is that "this person is faking". Frankly, I think they lack more empathy than a lot of our alters do, and that's saying a lot, especially considering Mark is literally an apathy holder. End rant.)

5. From SystemsCringe - Tagged as Fake OSDD/DID, titled "just straight up spreading lies, lol". - The post is a series of screenshots from either questioning systems, systems making fun of their past selves, or non-systems asserting that they aren't systems. It's hard to tell. Either way, they're somehow faking. Oh, plus, in the last slide, there's a commenter who claims to have also done the actions described in the screenshots but also don't remember having any trauma. Another comment below it kindly explains that not everyone will remember their trauma. None of this is spreading lies.

*major time skip by literal months lmao. Also I forgor to do the tags, sorry.*

6. From SystemsCringe - Titled "fictive dump". - In the post, the OP screenshotted a bunch of introjects on Tumblr anon... being introjects. Literally nothing else. The comments are gross, like saying how they "just need to stop pretending" and such. Ick. I've already gone over why introject hate is dumb, I believe, so we'll move on.

7. From FDC - Titled "Crab cakes?" - It's a video. The post is literally just an alter talking about how there's some really fucking good food in the fridge that they can't have because they belong to another alter. Wowww, systems can have rules and shit, they're tooooootally faking! Fuck, these FDC dumbasses suck the joy out of everything they touch.

8. From SystemsCringe - Titled "...7??" - System introjects 7 versions of one character after hyperfixating. Unfortunately, that means they're fake. To sum this up, it's another case of "introjects cannot exist because I said so." Nothing we haven't seen a trillion times before.

9. From FDC - Titled ""14" "*Professionally* diagnosed with osdd". - Yet another screenshot of someone's... probably carrd? Is that what it's called? Anyways, I think it's important that we don't forget that minors CAN be diagnosed with DID, OSDD, stuff like that. It's hard, sure, but genuinely possible. So, FDC is fakeclaiming a diagnosed system for being a minor. The logic here is either beyond me or non-existent.

10. From FDC - Titled ""Romanticise your disorders!"" - A long conversation that I didn't bother to read all of. The gist is, apparently, you're not allowed to romanticize your own disorders. Which... yes, you are, they're your disorders and you're allowed to accept them and be prideful about them. Plus, who's stopping you? C'mon, MAD pride, babyyyyyy-

(Note: it's your GAHD DAMN HUMAN RIGHT, BROTHER. THE FUCK DO YA THINK FREEDOM MEANS, EARL?)

So, a summary...

... nah, FDC and SC just suck, they don't deserve one. I might as well do my typical "how to be correct according to FDC and/or SC" though.

How to be correct, FDC edition:

- Don't self-diagnose.

- Be disordered in only The One Right Way™.

- Your disorder must be static and never change at all.

- Don't be distressed.

- Don't be disordered and online.

- No, just... don't be disordered.

- Don't have rules as a system.

- Don't have fun.

- Don't be diagnosed while being a minor.

- Don't be okay with being disordered.

- Suffer! ✨

How to be correct, SystemsCringe edition:

- You have to be utterly clueless when you first form. (But also if you are then you're faking.)

- Don't introduce yourself separately from the rest of the system.

- Don't be traumatized. (But if you aren't, You're faking.)

- Don't do stuff that you can't control in a way that I don't like.

- Remember your trauma. (Also don't remember your trauma btw.)

- Don't have Introjects.

- Don't have hyperfixations.

So, there. Phew, finally got that done... Y'all enjoy the rest of your days and stay safe. Don't harass anyone. Until we meet again, I guess. (That was cringe as hell 💀)

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