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lobotomizedlady · 4 months
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Your rape comparison is dumb because it gets exactly to the point that you're missing. I come from a place in Nigeria with a history of arranged between young women and older men. A long time ago this practice was not only common, but largely an expected process when it came to joining two people. Today most people in Nigeria acknowledge this to be immoral and some even consider it to be sexual trafficking. I would be inclined to agree. Yet only a few hundred years ago it was not questioned. Not because rape wasn't looked down upon back then, it simply wasn't considered rape. I have a traceable family history to men I would consider to be rapists by today's standards. Do I consider them heinous men? No. It was simply the expectation and the culture of the time. Marriage was considered a unification of families rather than individuals. The opinion of the girl being married off was seldom considered. I don't think every slaver was a heinous human being either. For a large amount of time in many cultures having slaves was simply how large amounts of work got done. Yes, it required the belief that humans could be relegated to property. But that wasn't an idea they culminated on their own. Just like most of the belief systems they held. The same is true for us. Everyday I go to work for someone else to provide for myself and my family. In modern society, if I don't work, I don't eat and I die. I believe in the future we will have considered it a barbaric slavery to hold a man's basic needs hostage behind working for someone else. Maybe it will be "UBI" or something else, but I do believe that in the future most people's basic needs can and will be met without the systems of work we have now. And I don't think we'll consider every person who ever owned a business and made people work for a living, a heinous person. If you judged every person from 1000 years ago on their actions and dispositions most of them would probably be "bad men". At that point calling someone bad in that context becomes largely meaningless and renders the exercise a complete waste of time. Even a peasant from the late middle ages would likely be a terrible misogynist with them engaging in catholic traditions that gave them complete control over their wives, which I think we would agree is bad regardless if they treated their wife well or not. What people like you are too stupid and self-centered to understand is that, 200 years from now, people who look back at certain practices you supported as barbaric. No matter how convinced you are of the morality of certain practices, now, in the present, a different society in a future era, might consider them destructive. Something like lobotomies were viewed as compassionate and medically supported in the 1950s.  What are society's views on lobotomies now? Does that make these people bad if future generations do something different?
first of all I have literally no idea what post you're talking about, second of all this is fucking unhinged lol!! I hate you cultural relativism freaks so much why are you so obsessed with defending rape and pedophilia?! just because it wasn't punished in the past doesn't mean the men committing those acts weren't still bad people. a person should know intuitively that holding down a screaming crying woman or child and painfully forcing yourself on them is wrong. would you argue that the Nazis weren't bad just because slaughtering jews in the place and time they lived in was a totally normalized & encouraged practice? you can try to excuse the most heinous acts with cultural relativism but that doesn't make them less heinous. this is such a fucking pointless discussion to have
also I'm literally a commie so I do in fact believe the robber barons holding basic necessities like food water shelter & healthcare behind a paywall are fucking evil
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verawhisk · 4 months
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astarion is megan and cazador is nicki
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dykedvonte · 2 months
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The Khans - My Introspective
I don't like the Military and I don't support a lot of the actions the NCR does to the Mojave in New Vegas but in terms of the Khans I feel like the fandom infantilizes or diminishes the fact that they are or at least one of the most violent raider groups in the Mojave.
What happened at Bitter Springs was a tragedy, innocent lives were lost and the fact that the NCR swept it under the rug and continued to hunt down Khans that are truly trying to back down and resettle is horrendous, but there is a history to the NCR's aggression towards them.
The Khans first appear in Fallout 1, the main faction of raiders in the game besides the mentioned Vipers (who don't actually appear if I remember correctly). They came from Vault 15 along with the members that would form rival groups; The Vipers, The Jackals, and Shady Sands. They are a very large and foreboding raiding party, known for burning towns and encampments they attack and taking survivors as their slaves or slaves to sell. They are a big reason why the Jackals and Vipers are actually so small in New Vegas, they wiped them out.
Their main targets where Shady Sands and Junker town, the former of the two would be what became The New California Republic. This explains a big part of their animosity towards the Khans, only furthered by the fact the Khans kidnapped Tandi as a young girl, the girl that would go to offically found the NCR out of Shady Sands. When the dweller saved her and killed much of the Khans, this allowed the NCR to develop into what it currently is as they no longer needed to focus on fighting off constant raids.
When the Khans became the New Khans in Fallout 2, they barely resembled the Khans as they were led by Darion, Garl Death-Hand's son (former leader of the Khans). They were smaller and refortified vault 15, still planning to take down the NCR (at this time nowhere near as imperialist as they are in FNV) as mostly a revenge/power ploy. They manipulate The Squat, a group of y'know squatters, that lived in the upper levels, promising and lying about repairing the vault and offering them ransacked caravan resources if they kept the NCR away. Being their only life line The Squat had no choice. Still the chosen one got rid of them and they left New California for the untapped Mojave.
The Great Khans, the most current iteration, continued in the path as the original Khans, regrouping and gaining information from the Followers who hoped they'd use their new medical knowledge to heal themselves. They gained more members and a substantial part of Vegas territory before they were run out by the three families. They were pushed to Bitter Springs where they first and foremost continued to pick off and attack NCR settlements, most of which consisted of caravans, towns, and camps as they saw them as easy like in their old days. It was the killing of four influential Republic members (non-military) that brought on Bitter Springs.
Bitter Springs was the result of years of hatred and animosity and likely the goal to send a final message to the Khans. It does not excuse the fact that innocent men, women, and children were slaughtered with few survivors. It does not excuse the fact that the NCR has yet to make amends for this and continues to try and persecute the Khans even in moments of surrender.
This post is not to defend what happened but to give a quick rundown of the Khan's history and their history with the NCR. It's to remind people that the NCR is not just their military power but an actual group/settlement of people that were also attacked indiscriminately by the Khans. It's to point out that the Khans were not a band of indigenous people (no matter the comparisons) driven from their homes but raiders who fed into the brutal cultures of the west coast wasteland and were in turn treated to the same things.
My frustration comes from the fact that FNV has so many comparisons to indigenous struggles but the groups it chooses are not comparable at all. Their oppression hinges on not being familiar with their past, which explains why they have the reputation they do in canon. The "tribes" are often not even groups of minorities or have goals/desires out of acquisitions of power and I feel like it is important to both acknowledge that this is bad indigenous rep because it is not supposed to be. It is supposed to be a comparison of the in-game groups and how they all do the same things and justify it in their own fucked up ways, some better at it than others.
FNV of all the Fallout games (in light of it being heavily Western based) distastefully uses indigenous imagery and theming for groups that are sad mimicries of American indigenous cultures at best and outright offensive at worst.
#this is also to say the NCR is barely different but they imply New California is a city and safe and that once the NCR military leaves#they will properly try to settle and revitalize the area unlike the goals of almost every other group#the issues arise from the tensions of the hoover dam battles the legion and the corrupt leaders chosen in what is a terse time#but the khans are interesting to me and I like the named khans we have in FNV but they are treated to be almost innocent at points due to#all the Ls they keep taking despite admitting to their raider roots and being PROUD#they partnered with the Legion and before i hear they didnt know they were slavers at a point too and likely didnt care if they believed it#would not affec their own. the Mojave is an unforgivnig place and sometimes you make unforgivable alliances since they alienated all their#other options through their continued and consistent behaviors#like i could go on how bad the native rep is but I would not use any of the tribes cause they barely count the only difference from the NCR#is they organize themself differtently like id use the tribes in Honest Hearts cause holy shit is it bad and racist like at least the Mojav#tribes are just white dickheads brutalizing each other and not the characatures of native people the Sorrows Dead Horse and White legs are#like yikes I hated playing white savior the dlc#this is also semi personal because i dont see a lot of POC people in the fandom talking about the Khans and so I dont know if the proper#perspectives can be added because just because something can represent a culture or group doesn't mean it does or that it was the primary#thing they were trying to get across#like feel free to ask and talk to me more about it cause grrr#fallout#fallout new vegas#the great khans#the khans#new california republic#the ncr#fallout 1#fallout 2#papa khan
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the-everqueen · 2 days
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me [takes your face gently between my hands]: hob gadling would not be a history professor at any number of british universities because of how humanities academia works and even if he were, rose walker would not be his student or advisee.
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guideaus · 17 days
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fandoms are wild bc some media will have a white man about to murder a woman and then the fandom moms are like 😍😍
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You know why we are taught to despise the French?
and poo poo their military prowess? Even though they are lovely people & have historically been glorious, brave, and victorious on the battlefield?
And were our partner in our own revolution?
It is because they killed their masters.
And they hold their police in check.
And protest for everything. And chase their police away. And get what they want. And have a pretty nice life.
They had a violent, coordinated people's revolution. Actually several. They kept trying and dying till one finally succeeded. They put the Aristocrats to death.
All the Aristocrats. Not just the bad ones. All of them. Even Marie Antoinette who was just a spoiled princess who quipped a stupid joke that got turned into revolutionary propaganda. She got disposal as well. Some people are just too dangerous to let live.
Because Aristocrats have babies! And those babies will network and rebuild Aristocracy and no Aristocracy may be allowed to exist if the people are to thrive.
That's why. Our Aristocrats don't want us getting Frenchy ideas.
Maybe we should.
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lemonhemlock · 1 year
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I've seen so many criticism regarding The targaryen but one caught my attention is that they're white colonizers-coded , do you think it's a valid point against this family? Obviously I didn't read the books so i don't know much about them beside dany in the show but it would be strange if that's true in the books when dany fans cry about her "unfair" treatment by D&D
It is true, anon. The Targaryens are the whitest of the white, with white-silver hair and purple eyes. Special magical blood that they prize amongst all things and prefer to practice incest instead of marrying outside their family and diluting their dragon DNA.
The optics are a little different since Westeros is based on medieval England, so most people are white European stand-ins, with Dorne being the most diverse. But no other family or ethnic group emphazises their racial superiority in such a way like Targaryens do. Lannisters are white, blonde, with light-coloured eyes, too, but they're not framed like the Aryan Master Race, if you get my drift.
It's harder to see with Dany because she's the last Targaryen left, supposedly, and also can't have children, so it's a little harder to be a blood supremacist when you're a party of one.
Of course, there is also the real possibility that George thought he should include elf-like characters with unusual colouring in his 90s fantasy book and things kind of escalated from there. But there's a lot of bloody supremacy discourse that Targaryens themselves perpetuate - sure, not with the intention of committing genocide in Westeros - but with the intention of setting themselves apart as special and above common men, "closer to gods", so to speak.
Add that to the fact that Valyrians not only terrorized Essos and enslaved various POC-coded peoples, they also brutalized those slaves in their magical volcano mines and used them to fuel their blood sacrifices to keep their society going.... and it becomes a lot.
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andsheoverthinks · 1 year
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i am so tired of how easily people slip into anti-Blackness to defend their arguments
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recently (always tbh but also recently) i've been seeing a lot of disdain circulating for African Americans, disappointedly but not surprisingly from a lot of non-white people as well.
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[f appropriating other cultures is so repugnant to you... why do you have a kpop profile pic... but i digress]
specifically this is about the Cleopatra tv show? casting that people are discussing right now, it's really highlighted how Black people, especially African Americans, aren't allowed to do anything a little bit cringe without racist, violent blowback. Cleopatra has been played by many many actresses, most of whom aren't of Greek or Egyptian descent. So it's weird that people are acting like Black people are uniquely horrible and ignorant for the casting of a Black woman as Cleopatra, when many castings have not been historically accurate.
Liz Taylor was British-American, Vivien Leigh was British, Monica Bellucci and Sophia Italian... you get the point. and yet people aren't hurling racist slurs at white people (there are none) for casting Cleopatra as non-Greek/Egyptian all these years. if you're upset about this particular casting, you can at least be civil with your discussions. but, no, it's easiest to call us dirty, ignorant n******s because half the time people are just waiting for an excuse.
let me explain something to you, gently. a lot of people ask, well, African Americans and Caribbeans were sold from West African countries like Ghana and Nigeria, why don't they go appropriate those countries.
the answer's quite simple. we don't learn anything about West Africa in school.
laugh break, haha, dumb USAmericans.
okay, back to business. in the U.S., we learn a very short list of non-European civilizations: Mesopotamia, China, and Egypt. Maybe one line on Mali if you're lucky. the school system here is very sensitive to teaching anything that triggers 'white guilt' aka anything more than a cursory glance at anything concerning Black people and our history, which is deemed as unimportant. you can say we were obviously enslaved from West African countries so we should learn about those cultures, but... we don't speak our old languages, save for some loanwords like 'duppy' instead of 'ghost' in Caribbean vernacular and such, we don't eat our old foods, wear our traditional clothes... we don't even know what they were, what ethnic group(s) we would have belonged to. we're not immigrants in that sense that we have a home country, a definite place of origin. do you know what it's like to feel that so much of your identity is rootless? do you know how endless that emptiness is?
so when these three non-European civilizations were laid out before us, we latched onto the closest one, and ran a little too far with it.
in fact, my generation is less dependent on Egypt as a sort of crutch; this is more of an older people thing. we have healed enough to be able to look within.
this is not a sob story. this is just a story of how we got here, and how this construction of the world -- disregarding the effects of white supremacy and racial trauma while enacting racist behavior and showing incredible fluency with white supremacist imagery and rhetoric -- is fundamentally flawed.
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this is just a sample of the racist tweets on the actress's twitter. i have chosen not to include the images that titilate these people but they are equally horrible, depicting violence against Black people.
in fact, i should stop calling this pathological behavior pattern 'white supremacy' at this point because a lot of people are actually getting off is to Arab slavery. the parallels between misogyny and anti-Blackness are so interesting -- misogynists are addicted to the ego boost of subjugating women, racists are addicted to the ego boost of subjugating Blacks. yes, your ancestors spearheaded an appallingly brutal slave trade of African people which lasted thirteen centuries and is continues to this day (yes, Black people are still being enslaved in your countries but you're butthurt over a tv show so it's time to go ballistic -- by the way white people were also kidnapped and sold but since the rise of European imperialism they'd been able to shed that 'shame'), even more evil than the triangular trade and there are fewer survivors because of the reproductive control methods (read, violent sterilization). source1 source2. you people spouting this nonsense because of a tv show are just as racist as the white people over here, possibly worse. do you feel edgy villain enough now? happy?!
and by the way, 'threatening' to cast white actors as Harriet Tubman or Martin Luther King doesn't hurt us the way that Cleopatra not looking white enough seems to emotionally wound you, we are used to being minimized and erased for our contributions to society and are not thin-skinned like the losers complaining about this like it's the worst thing in their lives.
Is Afro-centerism inaccurate? Probably. Is it fearmongering to position it as equivalent to white supremacy? Absolutely.
[Pop quiz: Which ideology enslaved, tortured, raped, killed, and colonized across many centuries?]
Does calling us n******s and invoking 4chan 'we wuz kangz' (yes there was a we wuz kangz meme but i'm not reposting their childish shit on my blog) arguments make you sound like anything other than a whiny child? No. Just say you don't like the casting like a grown-up.
Why doesn't Hollywood produce West Africa period pieces in order to cast more Black actors instead? Now there's an actually productive question. Thank you. Actually, next they should do a long, high budget docudrama on the Arab slave trade so you can feel really uncomfortable.
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fayevalcntine · 10 months
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If y'all are absolutely insistent on referring to Louis as a woman can you at least please, for the love of God, not act as if the femininity he's ""performing"" is white and then go off on a tangent about what "white womanhood can even be if a Black man can be one" when white supremacy has a considerable history of upholding white women/womanhood in order to continue their racist blood purity beliefs? At least go into Black femininity as an overall topic of discussion
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iwtvdramacd18 · 1 year
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I really enjoying reading your thoughts on Louis. I really relate to Louis’ experiences. And I like your interpretation of his actions. Not just in his relationships but also as a man living in the early 1900’s. Especially as a black gay man. So many white fans just don’t truly understand Louis as not just a character, but a man.
I'm really glad that my thoughts on him can connect with you too because you're right like with a majority white fandom there is so much about his character that is being looked over and misconstrued and demonized... it's really upsetting like not just on a basic analysis level (I feel so bad for everyone working the show. They are trying so fucking hard) but seeing in real time how people react to Louis it can get real fucked up, I definitely will not run out of shit to say about him I still have an essay about him I wanna write at some point
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arcann · 1 year
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new dragon age content comes out an it's always realizing that yeah this fandom has stayed fucking stupid for these last 8 years
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Trope Hate of the day: When a work deliberately provokes a given emotion and then climbs on its high horse and chides you for having it.
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catoscloves · 2 years
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i love that klaus is literally a homicidal british lunatic it's the reason why he was my favorite character but if he could kill a woman's mother for coughing and turn her into a vampire out of spite then why the fuck didn't he murder marcel's father when that slave owner was deadass right there for klaus to maim (or better yet allow marcel to)
klaus killing a slaveowner is obviously not going to make him murdering a sick woman on her deathbed in front of her child okay but like. if you're going to make him a ruthless killer who murders at random based on his tyranical whims then kill a couple fictional slave owners while you're at it
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oso-nan · 1 year
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i have one thing to share with you guys . Honest hearts is the worst fnv dlc and also joshua graham isnt that special
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ziracona · 2 years
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People on tumblr will complain about games having heavy handed ethics and black and white narratives with practically unexecutable ideologies, then throw the biggest hissy fit of all time at any games where doing the good guy thing and saving attacked minorities or causes has casualties and makes you kill people in order to enact any large scale real lasting change.
#I will see users be like ‘superhero movies have the worst ethical takes since Kant. just kill him’ and then lose their mind the game about#what it’s like to be a minority oppressed by the govt didn’t have stand-in white allies in it or that to free slaves they have to kill the#slavers and some people not directly wielding the guns but benefiting from and living happily within the power structure will be casualties#like guys you’re not supposed to be happy about it but that’s how life fucking works. none of you could be Clementine every one of you is#James. ‘I would love not to have to fight and kill but that’s not how life fucking works! it takes more than words!’#thinking again about some of the most wildly bullshit complaints I’ve ever seen video games get rofl#y’all will bend over backward to excuse the most bigoted fucks and serial killers of all time but the second a minority shoots someone to#save their life or someone else’s they’re satan himself like girl it ain’t even bad they did it you’re just a wuss with horrible ethics &#also part of the problem. you can’t change things by hoping bad people decide to change or asking them.#and if you’re not willing to hurt someone horrific to protect the perosn they’re trying to kill because the slight chance someday they might#decide to improve is more valuable than the life of the person they’re killing or their right to happiness and survival? you fucking suck#and that’s literally just that. get priorities that aren’t evil
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