How did you find Tales of Symphonia?
I didn't have time to make anything for the 20th anniversary, so I thought I'd share how I found the game.
In my teens, I'd seen ToS on the shelves of my local Blockbuster and nearly rented it so many times. I would pick it up, and gaze longingly at the box art, but never get it because I knew I'd never be able to finish it from renting it, and I didn't have the money to buy it.
Seven years later, I found out on the internet that Kratos was Lloyd's father (probably through fanart on DeviantArt or something) and I, being in love with "long-lost Dad" trope, decided that I needed to play this game. Immediately.
Problem was, they didn't make it anymore, so it wasn't sold in stores. Where would I find an old GameCube game in 2011? I grabbed my little brother and dragged him with me all around town. We went to three different GameStops, but none of them had it.
Realizing that I would have to find it on the internet, and wait, I almost gave into despair. When, suddenly, inspiration struck.
I was very much speeding on my way back to the very same Blockbuster I'd gone to with my brother and my dad so many times growing up.
There it was. For sale. No cover, and with a weird Blockbuster case. But there it was. I'd found it. The very same copy I'd coveted as a child.
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More FFXVI stuff from my ongoing playthough (next major plot point down):
4/5 mothercrystals down
And the world is not happy about it
But mostly because Bhunivelze 2.0 I mean...Ultima fucked the world
(The continued meld of XIII trilogy/XIV/FMA storywise amuses me)
I am genuinely surprised that both Joshua and Dion made it out of the story section alive...ish
Dion is a good boy :( but, like his step brothers, he has not been having a good time.
Evil mother continued to be just as great at parenting all the way to the end
Even when 2/3 of her sons/stepsons were trying to give her a chance of getting out of there alive (as...reluctant as Clive also looked)
Personally I was on Team Jill: hold a sword to her throat for disrespecting Clive
Eikon Fusion Morphing Time was interesting
I would be mad about them changing the battle mechanics MID BATTLE but they went 'and this move works like Phoenix Shift' and I was like 'OMG THANK YOU, MY MOST ABUSED MOVE'
Did not die to Bahamut. I am...almost getting good.
I am starting to feel like this is probably the time to maybe grind a little. I've been doing all the side quests as they've come up (except a couple hunts) but I feel like I could probably take some time to comb over some areas and fight some stuff on the way.
The fights are fine but the waves of groups with a tough enemy in the middle can get a bit dicey. Because I'm not good at focusing on multiple enemies
(I tend to use Flames of Rebirth to get rid of all the weaker enemies so I can focus tbh)
About to head to kanker (sp) and (I assume) get my ship
I've just realised...where is the water Eikon?
Fire, Ice, Lightning, Wind, Earth, Light, Dark...water should be the 8th but it hasn't been mentioned in story??? And, I don't think Clive has room for it on his Eikon wheel???
But they've talked about 8 Eikons for 8 elements
They have also mentioned unaspected but that was mentioned as a secret 9th thing
Am I missing something??? Brain???
Anyway, I went to bed before hopping across to Kanver and I was happy to see that my team in the save was Clive, Torgal, Jill and Joshua
I thought I would never see it! Even though Joshua has been listed in the 'main protaganist' section of the relationship chart since it turned up
Also random moments:
Otto remembering Cid genuinely made me cry
Not a overexagerated 'I'm crying'
Actual real tears
Jill 'ahem'ing Isabelle for flirting with Clive was hilarious
Like...'in front of her salad'
Clive's awkward acting in Dalimil being just as awkward as in his presentation to his uncle
10/10 best boy
I love the continued theme of Uncle Byron being the most embarrassing member of the family but also a) genuinely on your side b) actually useful and competent c) clearly adored regardless
I can't wait to see him cry when Joshua turns up
Oh oh oh...I also love that this game isn't afraid to have all their badass characters cry
Yes...more healthy expressions of emotions, please
Even the 'grumpy old sod' got to cry
Oh, and I haven't said it in this post yet so TORGAL IS THE BEST BOY...WHO'S A GOOD BOY! YOU ARE!!!!
The sidequest 'something is wrong with the pupper' came up and it was like 'THIS IS NOW THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY...DROP EVERYTHING ELSE...MAIN QUEST IS ON HOLD'
Turned out he was just unsatisfied with his treats
But he deserves the best
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All Co-Habitation Evidence *TotK Spoilers*
I'm going to hide all of this behind a read-more if you would like to remain unspoiled on everything like npc interactions, towns, quests, etc. Which I do have to talk about when it comes to this topic. Now, without further ado:
The bed in the house is the exact same as BotW, and unlike other beds in the world, you can freely sleep in it.
If we open up both botw and totk, the bed is the exact same one from botw. Meaning that at the absolute minimum, Zelda has been sleeping in Link's bed. However, if you go up to the bed, Link can still sleep in it. There are very few beds that are free in this game, and the only other beds you can sleep in is obviously communal beds, such as those at lookout landing for those who are sick, injured, etc. You cannot normally sleep in another person's bed.
2. Link's hair-tie, Zelda's diary and the Champion's photo.
If you have completed The Champion's Ballad DLC, and correctly transferred your save, then the photo will still be there. But more importantly, the house has a new addition. Behind the house is "Zelda's secret well" that functions as her new study. In that well, you will find one of the volumes of her diary, hot-footed frogs splashing around, and Link's hair-tie in the corner of the room. Link never took that hair-tie off in botw (only when wearing the ancient helm), so it's a bit suspicious that it's down here of all places.
Not only this, but if you read the volumes of her diary, both the one in the well and on the desk near the bed, there are a couple of things that stick out:
Firstly, Zelda had Bolson build the well because she needed somewhere to focus alone. If she was living by herself, this makes no sense (and, in japanese, rather than "my house" it's simply "the house" here).
Secondly, Zelda states that Link is always by her side. To the point his clothes have become worn. So as a gift she made him a new tunic (and she "can't wait to see the look on his face" when he gets it, just saying).
and third, she had to hide said gift in the castle, otherwise he would find it in the house.
3. The School and Symin
During the time-skip, Zelda founded a new school in Hateno, where she became a teacher. Due to this, a child who misses her visits the house at around 12-2pm and calls it "Ms Zelda's house".
However, if you talk to Symin, he has this to say:
So, clearly, this is not Link's first time here (which should be obvious, how exactly did Zelda get to Hateno and the house in the first place after botw's ending? Link brought her there). He even asks Link why he came back to the village alone without Zelda. Additionally, if you go upstairs and read the "School Notes" it says this:
It talks about the opening expedition under the castle happening soon, and reiterates Link being by Zelda's side. Interestingly, in that opening sequence Zelda says she is glad she didn't leave the Purah Pad behind. Meaning she's glad she didn't leave it at home.
But wait, there's more
There is a side-quest at the school where Link becomes a teacher / substitute teacher. When you finish the quest, one of the children says this:
They say they already thought of Link as a teacher figure even before this quest. To add onto this, there is another child who wants to become a hero and is "always on the lookout for baddies".
4. Manny
Manny is an interesting case. At first, like some other npcs, he seems to have been entirely memory-wiped to be approachable for brand-new players who didn't play botw, but then he has the following to say:
So, first of all, he doesn't call the house "Zelda's house" and instead calls it "the house the princess was staying at"
Secondly, he asks Link to "keep the naive, new-in-town act" to a minimum.
Third, Manny has another dialogue, he wants to "check every well" in town to find frogs for Ivee (because, similar to his quest with Prima in botw, he thinks that's what she likes). But after he says this, he seems to realize he should not have said that in front of Link, saying "Uh oh, no coming back from that one" in the smaller text as though he knows Zelda's well is off-limits. Combined with him calling the house "the house the princess was staying at" he seems to know something.
5. Two Place settings, etc
The house has two places set, two towels, etc. And just in general a lot of things for supposedly one person. There is also a bigger kitchen, and let's be honest with ourselves here, who is more about cooking and actually good at it, Zelda or Link?
Under the stairs in totk
VS botw:
Now, for this next section, I have to talk about things regarding another town in the game, a quest and a mechanic many have not unlocked yet. Continue to read at your own peril (I would hide it under another read more if I could)
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The Tarrey Town House
During TotK, after we wake up and leave the sky islands, we can complete a quest to unlock the ability to build a brand-new "Dream Home" in Akkala, close to Tarrey Town.
The quest involves baby-sitting Hudson and Rhondson's child, Mattison, who, if you'll recall, did not exist yet in botw. In totk, she is starting to gain independence and appears to be around 5 or 6 years old:
I doubt Link was sleeping rough for several years (and Zelda would never be okay with that). Anyway, Link babysits her, goes up into a hot-air balloon with the family, and then has to watch a tear-jerking scene between Mattison and her parents as she has come of the age young gerudo girls have to go to Gerudo Town and stay there until they get older and are ready to venture the world.
It is only after completing this quest, a quest completely about parenthood, that you are offered the "Dream Home" by Rhondson.
Additionally, an npc at the nearby stable has this to say:
So, the in-universe implications of the dream home is that it is a family home, something you only buy when you plan to marry someone or start a family.
Adding onto this, the dining table in the dream home has four seats instead of two. But there's also an interesting comparison to make with the Hateno house. The Hateno house had two seats and two places set, this house has four seats, but is clearly only being used by one person:
In other words, Link is living by himself in a house meant for a family. Which is depressing to think about, but in the context of the game makes sense.
But there's something else. In the new house pieces (including a study you cannot use yourself), all the photos on the wall are of Hateno Village:
Why would Link hang photos of Hateno in his new home, if it was not important or nostalgic to him? (and, as a minor detail, the same yellow flower is in both houses, presumably Link's favorite flower)
In conclusion, it's clear from all the evidence that not only were they living together in Hateno, but the brand-new house actually has it's own implications behind it (and further proves that Hateno was and is important to Link).
Oh, and there is also one last thing, in the japanese version of the game, but I can't mention it here because it is an even bigger spoiler than all of this combined. It'll be an addition to this post later
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