#this doesnt make him more likeable

[rayven81194]

Trolly Problem - A Genloss Theory/Thoughts focused on Hetch

// This is kinda long, also genloss spoilers

Before I rant, I’m just saying that I feel silly and am just ranting. I saw 1 post about this and went haywire smile

Ok so i’ve been thinking about genloss, specifically, Hetch. Now I know a lot of us see him as villainous, seeing as he did manipulate Ranboo and in a way, killed them. But, as I’ve been thinking, Hetch as a character seemed a bit to simple. A villain, a killer, someone we shouldn’t trust. However, what if that in a way, he as a person was masked a bit. our view has been masked before and I don’t doubt we are free from it. So, my rant begins:

First off, titles. Hetch, apparently, was a name the Scottish used as a nickname for someone crooked. Which, with Hetchs character as we know goes, fits. But, nickname is what gets me. I could ask many questions about naming for some key characters, or a lack of naming. Examples include The Mastermind and The Founder. We are given titles that explain how they are relevant in a way. So, why wouldn’t the same go for Hetch? We know he works for The Founder, so maybe he was renamed to fit the role. The role he needed to serve.

That segway’s into my next point. A post talked about how people with masked in genloss are controllable, like the workers and Ran, as well as including Hetch. So what if Hetch is high in power, nearing The Founder, but still a puppet. Again, new point. It can be assumed that Hetch is a puppet for The Founder. But, what if that isn’t the case. Someone outside of Showfall trying to expose Showfall. But, evident by the 7-foot monster that killed multiple people, and upped security we know from Hetch telling us, simply walking in can’t happen. We know Showfall can’t stop hackers, evident by Hetch and Squiggles interactions, if you can call them that. 

I’ll stop building fluff around this and just say it, I think Hetch is a puppet being used to tear down Showfall Media. However, he works there and was quite high on the job scale. The person who is puppeteering him could be doing what we did to Ranboo in the Cabin. We told Ranboo to go somewhere, but didn’t control a lot of what they did or how they did it, aside from a one worded command. Explore. Could this person controlling Hetch be doing similar things, but with Hetch being aware of Showfall control on Ranboo or just Showfall being able to control people. Or they let him keep those memories, not relevant.

I said i’d stop the fluff then added more so here’s the good part. The person puppeteering Hetch wants us to see him as villainous as well as those working with The Founder, who we assume are well aware of everything, as people who need to be torn down. Making Hetch be the only person from The Founders direct team and our only representative of them it a great idea for the goal of tearing Showfall Media down. If we assume the Founder is the Founder of Showfall. Anyways, with how we view Hetch, maybe they want us to view the rest of them to be untrustworthy. Make us take very thing they say with a grain of salt. 

Ok that’s it, i’m not the best at explaining my theory but I hope it makes sense. A few more things though. If we believe that there is a separating party involved, that could make a neat ending. We have to make one final choice, which villain do we eliminate? Both could leave us with a feeling of dread. Ranboo seems to likes that. Adding on to that, Hetch could be neutral. Controlled by one side, but technically working for the other. Neat character idea. Bonus, stab wound was given to try and make him easier to control. Getting him both mentally and physically tired.

Also, I think you can somewhat ignore the thought of another person puppeteering Hetch or assume is just Hetch acting. But, I don’t think we know enough about Hetch and his true motives, or things threatening him. To finish this off, I pose a question to you:

You know the trolly question? The train going to hit one person or five, and we have to pick. Have you every thought of the person who was controlling the train, or the one who launched it? If they were trying to stop it, to make it better once aware. Would you blame them for the accident, a situation they might have not been able to control? Just some thoughts.

#generation loss #genloss #genloss hetch #wow #this got long #i could talk a bit more about this #like trying to find Hetchs motifs #but also the concept of Ranboo pulling a trolly problem at the end of genloss sounds rlly cool #ive also been thinking about the naming of gen 1 #the social experiments #EXPERIMENTS #MORE THEN ONE #THE SOCIAL EXPERIMENT WOULD ALSO WORK #maybe another experiment would be how we treated Hetch #booblr #my ass forgot a tag #genloss theory #this doesn’t mean i like him tho #sorry rewatched the death scene again #this doesnt make him more likeable

[ssaseaprince]

It's time for my annual controversial Hunger Games post

The fact that Gale is so villianized is such a strong testament to the fact that people will only stand with the oppressed if they find them palpable enough. If you think his anger was extreme and his actions were unnecessary, then you have no real grasp on how revolutions actually work.

#I can understand not liking him on a personal level for how he treats Katniss #But I'm talking about the people who villianize him for his actions and feeling during the war and revolution #Suzanne Collins did a remarkable job using real life revolutions as models for her books #Everybody is basing whether or not everybody's actions were justified around how Katniss personally felt and it doesnt work like that #Because yes Katniss's input was necessary and important but so was everybody elses #Because if it was all up to Katniss 100% realistically they would not have won the revolution #Which makes sense because Katniss was a 16 year old girl and it would be unreasonable and unfair to expect her to be the sole decision make #They all helped win the war - Gale included #This is also evident in how people react to Johanna vs Gale when their actions are so similar and if anything Johanna would be more violent #But Johanna is more palpable so people support her more #Its just such an obvious example of the fact that people don't care about the oppressed unless they find them personally likeable #And people don't want to acknowledge the undesirable parts of wars and revolutions and what it takes out of people #People just want to see everybody as black and white #ANYWAYS Suzanne Collins is a genuis I adore her #the hunger games #catching fire #the mockingjay #gale hawthorne #katniss everdeen #thg #gale #katniss and gale

[sengenism]

just realised how i usually dislike or feel indifferent about shounen mcs but senku and gon hxh are the only ones who actually manage to enter my top fave characters of their respective fandoms... they're so well written

#like i dont consider every other character in dcst well written tbh theyre quite one dimensional #but it doesnt affect their likeability to me i still enjoy their characters v much #me being a danganronpa fan might play a part actually dcst characters r all talent based like them #but senkus the only dcst character who has rly good writing imo and im so glad for that #hes so hopeful but not in a way that i find annoying idk #he has such a deep trust in humanity despite his character being all like ughhh affection ugghh i only care abt science #but he loves humanity so much and i just RAHHGHHH cant relate but it makes me want to believe in it too #i wanna reread dr stone but i dont rly have time but i wanna re-experience that hope #senku's relationship with his dad.... the way his dad struggled for the future bc he believed in his son #and as for gon i could never be a gon haterrrrr #like ppl hate him for his selfish tendancies but that just makes him more unique to me #he is like. 10 and now 12. dudes a child he does things based on his emotions yeah #the way he lacks the gift of discernment bc of his childlike manner and all #just makes him better #rant post ig bc i rmbr i have this acc and now instead of annoying my irls w my talks and i can speak to the void here #what prompted this was seeing one of those x > y twt post involving senku #LIKE DO NOT SPEAK ON HIMMMM

[floralovebot]

i think a lot about helia being saladin's grandson and how it's heavily implied that he's close with codatorta too and him being codatorta's best student at some point. and how most of the characters either immediately assumed nepotism or weren't exactly disagreeing with it. and how saladin and codatorta go out of their way to Not treat helia better and how all of that combined can really fuck with a young teen's mind and perception of themselves.

he never thinks he's good enough or the right person for the job. he always wants to prove himself. he's really sensitive to making mistakes and immediately assumes everyone hates him when he makes one. always tries to prove his worth in physical and mission related ways. feels responsible for red fountain and guilty for having other interests. manages a stable art career but ultimately goes back because he's too emotionally attached to everyone and especially rf. it's just... dude...

#he's the perfect little blorbo #helia is what the creators wanted sky to be i think #whenever i think about How sky couldve been a more likeable character or more interesting character #i end up thinking about a lot of the issues that helia deals with #this is also what i mean when i say helia and sky are perfect foils <3 #but anyway i just think that he #he's such a good character!! AUGH #like... helia's emotional attachment to rf is something that should really be examined and explored by the fandom! #his chronic perfectionism... his feeling like he needs to prove himself to his loved ones... his need to be Told he's good #and all of this is interesting alone but when looked at with the knowledge of how saladin and codatorta have to treat him #so that they dont get accused of nepotism and the school doesnt have a bad image... #dude... like yeah no shit he thinks he's the worst person in the world </3 #dude makes One mistake and fucks off forever like guess everyone hates me now im clearly not good enough to be a specialist #those high expectations because he's related to saladin while also Constantly being undermined because of that too #Constantly having to prove himself and eventually just giving up and letting people think whatever they want (ie pacifist comment) #but still caring inside and feeling like he'll never be good enough for anyone and especially not the school #my blorbo <3 and his mental health issues <3 please go to therapy <3 #winx helia

[sunshine-of-my-shoulder]

Mikoto having DID deniers gain reading comprehension challenge

#milgram #kayano mikoto #yeah he's not objectively great representation #but going your way to try to prove he doesnt have DID is doing more harm #and him faking a disorder just makes him unlikeable and just contradicts milgram #since the characters are supposed to be likeable enough to make deciding their verdicts a challenge #it's just that side of youtube and tumblr that makes me want to rip out my hair

[aahsoka]

how did meteor garden manage to do the forced kiss WORSE than boys over flowers. like considering how much newer the show was I was HOPING theyd just skip it entirely but noooo it was WORSE

#can i even continue watching it with that :| #jordan talks #this dude being unable to parse his feelings and being immature about it doesnt have to result in him being like. abusive ? #extra mad bc the dude playing him is really cute n fun >:( #i was really enjoying how much more energetic he is compared to gu jun pyo #i HATE the dubious consent kisses in dramas . STOP #kdramas have really found their way beyond it but idk the cdramas ive watched lately dont seem to have #wheres the hana yori dango adaptation WITHOUT dubious consent #its 2022 we can do the enemies to lovers romance without forcing the kisses . #granted this drama is from like 2018 but #still #i am a huge sucker for gu jun pyo and i rrally like dao ming si so far i just wish he hadnt done That #let him just gaze longingly at her lips like mr darcy ok!!!! #gaze at her with wistful eyes like ri jeong hyeok!!! #really like walking red flag the way he punched the wall and then force kissed her and then she cried #and he was like ‘i wont hurt you any more’ dude thats textbook abuser right there #and no they WONT address it as abusive will they????? #rip why are dylan wang and lee min ho so attractive whyd you make this asshole likeable #even fuckin violin guy is out here giving forcible kisses . youre supposed to be the good guy #tho tbh ive never liked him but #lets get a telenovela adaptation next id love that lmfao

[scare-ard--sleigh]

AND ALSO like yes infidelity is bad, do not do it, especially if you're a minister for fuck's sake but ahchddjej everyone made it sound like joseph and robert were fucking on the reg to the point where they were basically secretly together when it was. one night lmao.

#dream daddyblogging #like come ON . #i guess you could say that its possible joseph's full of shit when he says it was one night but given that its not referenced again that's #doubtful from a storytelling perspective. you can't embed lies in your story without providing some way for the reader to know they're lies #and judging from the fact that if dadsona fucks robert one (1) time you can't romance him; im inclined to believe j about it anyway #im sorry for being so annoying about this i just shdjdakdkdhdj its so hard to find content that doesnt villainize joseph when #i think it's actually more interesting to assume the most generous interpretation here. #but i am also a big sucker for characters who are convinced it's all circumstance when really they're making a mess of everything #and i also feel like so many people see infidelity and automatically assume that means the person doing it must not be #sympathetic or likeable AT ALL when reality is a lot more grey than that but that's not a discussion im willing to open #the christiansen mess

[knocknut]

your best friend and favorite character shin tsukimi

dont get me wrong hes an incredibly interesting character and he was superbly well-written, that is an aspect i like about him and i think its sweet that he tries to protect kanna at the end but also he is still a gigantic asshole to me lmao

#yttd #i think i honestly may like midori more than shin #probably moreso because we were introduced to shin as like. hes supposedly a good guy and hes nice but oh no hes actually an asshole #but no wait hes good again but oh my god check it out he was being an asshole all along #where as with midori we know he sucks. we know hes a dickhead and actively takes part in making other people's lives miserable #no matter how old they are or how well he knows them he takes joy in making people uncomfortable and toying with them #and he does not try to hide it #he is supposed to be a villain there isnt supposed to be anything likeable about this guy and yet. i like him. hes interesting to me #all in all shin as a character super well written super well done hes unhinged as fuck and gets no bitches #shin as an actual person i do not like. it doesnt sit well with me when people constantly go back and forth on being nice and being a total #asshole it just sends off all kinds of red flags #this was longer than i meant it to be but i just had to get all my thoughts out on this. 10/10 i hate shin but also do not change him #he is better miserable

[justasmisunderstoodasloki]

Do I low-key have the hots for my teacher? Maybe

I am weirded out by it? Oh yes, definitely

#my mind immediately goes to those messed up teacher x au fics i (used to) read #always thought having a crush on your teacher was weird. now look at me #and this was all made worse when my friend jokingly made a comment about us standing close to each other #after i told her i had to keep following him so he would give me full advice on smth #and she doesnt like him but i dont think he is a bad teacher. today i told her about having a private feedback session with him #(barely anyone showed up to get feedback from the teachers) #anyway i said that to my friend and i quickly realised that i sounded wrong (dirty) and she DEFINITLY noticed that and made another comment #my friend is a bully and makes it weird #but in my defense: i dont have control of who i like and what my type is #and i cant help it that he is kinda cute #okay jokes aside. he is a nice guy and a somewhat good teacher (with anxiety which makes him more likeable and relatable and funny)this guy #teacher crush

[tenshindon]

Yo when you were like Ryo Aoki is a spoiled 42 year old brat who’s the governor I was like.. that’s where trunks is heading. Or at least GT Trunks super hero trunks is a different story.

i hope from the bottom of my heart trunks is never anything like ryo aoki jesus fucking christ and im really happy to say they arent alike in the slightest

#snap chats #trunks is a good boy who although comes from a spoiled background is still a likeable and good kid #aoki is a cunt. #like trunks as a nepo baby is like. he inherits his mom's company but he doesnt even wanna be there #aoki being a nepo baby is his yakuza dads make it so he dodges murder charges and helps him start his life over in the US #all so he can come back to tokyo and become governor and ruin his dads lives And A Lot Of People's Lives Not To Mention #ALL CAUSE a girl said he was mid behind his back once #BUT IM NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT HIM TOO DEEPLY HERE #yk whats cracked i get more yakuza asks on my db blog than my yakuza blog 💀

[zeldasnotes]

ASTRO OBSERVATIONS PART 21☃️

⋆꙳•̩̩͙❅*̩̩͙‧͙ Check out my masterlist for more astrology observations⋆꙳‧͙ ･:*:｡

Pisces Suns looks like they put lipgloss on their eyes, so shiny and glossy.

People love watching people with Venus in the 10th house. They are the ones most likely to do vlogs, people just love watching them do anything. Sooo likeable.

Having a Plutonian Venus guarantees attention from their prefered sex. Wheter the attention is good or bad depends on other factors in the chart.

Leo Moons are usually the most insecure out of all Leo placements. Leo Venus is the most confident.

People with Squares to Neptune can be the biggest copycats. They can see a beautiful picture of a model and one day later they post a pic of themselves posing the exact same way in the same hairstyle

Moon in the 11th house can be addicted to social media.

Mercury Sextile Venus have the cutest voice😍(Mercury can only be conjunct or sextile venus btw)

You might have a hard time understanding the nature of the element you lack in your own chart. For example someone with no earth might find earthdominant to be boring, too serious or too quiet. While someone with no fire finds firedominants too loud, arrogant, oversocial and egoistic. Someone with no water could find waterdominants too sensitive and easily butthurt. Someone with no air could find airdominants too shallow, gossipy and fake.

Libra Moon and Venus are the ones most likely to show without saying a word when they find someone ugly. So shallow. Unless they have a lot of water influence.

Men with Mars in Leo have the most beautiful beard.

I still dont get why but I know 3 men who are OBSESSED with Nicki Minaj and they all have Moon Square Mars in their natal charts, could just be a coincidence tho.

Speaking of Nicki Minaj she got Venus conjunct Lilith which explains why her videos are so sexual in nature and in a way that no others artist does.

Chiron conjunct Sun,Venus or Mars gives a special kind of charisma. Its a mix of being vulnerable and down to earth that makes people love to be around them. People feel like these people understand them.

A lot of people with Fixed placements listens to music all the time like as soon as school/work is over they put those airpods in.

A womans Mars or Venus Square a mans Ascendant can make her feel like he is not manly enough. She might not like how he handles conflict, doesnt see him as ambitious enough etc.

Just like a woman with Venus conjunct Chiron doesnt feel like a ”real” woman and feels like shes not feminine enough a man with Mars conjunct Chiron doesnt feel like he is ”man enough”.

I noticed that most people who have their Juno conjunct my planets or vice versa are people who I look good besides. The way we dress matches, our height and body language matches which made us look like a married couple.

Ive seen Lilith in the 2nd house be a common placement in people who have a fixation with food.

Everytime ive seen someone with extremely attractive lips they either had Lilith in the 2nd house or personal planets in Aries.

People with Sun aspecting Lilith were usually made to feel less important by their father. Thats why their ego might seem huge to others. They will always choose themselves and they will always make choices that benefits themselves.

People with a Plutonian Venus have people talking about their appearance a lot. I see influencers and famous people with this have people going crazy in their comment section over any change in appearance.

Gemini Mercury have a thing for mindgames.

Cancer Mercury are so nostalgic and love old memories and they love when they bump into an old friend from years ago.

Virgo Mercury dont notice how criticizing and negative they sound. They dont mean to harm anyone they just see every tiny detail.

Libra Mercury either disagrees with everything because they constantly see the other side of things or they are that person who always agrees.

Scorpio Mercury likes to test people.

Sagittarius Mercury puts their foot in their mouth. And the ones with Pluto conjunct Mercury are just horrible, sorry.

Neptune 1st house 🤝 Having obsessive stalkers.

Scorpio Mars 🤝 Pretending to forgive people so that they dont see it coming.

Taurus Moon 🤝 Keeping your circle small.

Scorpio Moon 🤝 Wanting their friendgroup to be like a sect

Venus in Libra 🤝 Hating on ugly people

Libra Rising 🤝 Spending 5 hours on your makeup

Virgo Sun 🤝 Giving advice that nobody asked for.

Sagittarius Moon 🤝 Breaking rules

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© 2022 Zeldas Notes

#astro notes #astrology #astro observations #astronotes #lilith #ascendant #lilith aspects #asteroids #birth chart readings

[adhdchilles]

completely valid to be like "i think madeline miller didnt write patroclus' death/the events leading to it very well i think she undermined it too much" like yeah thats valid criticism i dont like how she narrated it either and i also agree that "she made patroclus a little bit too reliant/dependent on achilles" but like. it starts to get extremely weird when yall phrase this criticism as "i hate the fact that this writer made this male character feminine" as if 1) femininity is apparently a bad thing and 2) femininity makes the character weaker ?? also very weird how some people also associate him being a doctor with him being feminine as if certain careers have specific genders ??

also very weird how a lot of these people tend to be okay with achilles being drawn in this very feminine manner considering hes often portrayed as white while not being okay with pat being drawn feminine on the other hand as hes often portrayed as a poc nowadays. apparently femininity in men is only ok if the dude is pale, right, ok. borderline racist but alright

and like i get it if its like "i dont like that he was made more feminine bc its as if miller is trying to make them heteronormative" like thats valid as hell and can lead to a very interesting discussion (even though i dont think she hyper-masculinized achilles at all) but the way some of yall PHRASE THIS???? mind your words holy fuck

anyways you can be both feminine and a badass warrior. if achilles can be both at once so can his bf. "but pat being overly kind doesnt make sense when he tries to climb the wall of troy to kill them all" what if i told you that kind people can still feel anger and hatred... especially when they were forced to be in a war zone for a whole decade watching people die endlessly and pointlessly... and that it makes a lot of sense actually if you interpret it as patroclus just wanting to end the war himself because hes Fucking Sick Of It.

let bro be the nicest person at home and kill people when his bf sends him to do it. hes probably the most likeable character in the fucking epic, and his combat before he dies is impressive as hell. how about we let him have both trophies instead of acting like he can only be 1 of these two things or acting like people who are feminine cant be powerful or badass because uhhh borderline mysoginy or something. doesnt that sound nicer?

thanks for coming to todays episode of i hate cisgender people

#last part is not /srs #before anyone whines about it #robb screams into the infinite void of chaos #achilles #the song of achilles #tsoa #patrochilles #the iliad #patroclus #song of achilles #classical mythology #greek myth #ancient greek mythology #greek mythology #greek myths

[yesimwriting]

For what i gathered from your style of writing (immaculate btw) i think reader would not responde to nates advances, because contrary to billy, stu and felix he doesnt hide his asshole ways.

So i think the main thrope would be groveling from his part

omg this ask feels like such a cross over!!

you're so right and i love the way you're thinking through this, but let's break down nate's character a little more (and reader's)

one of the major takeaways from that scene where everything that nate looks for in a girl is laid out and the scenes that explain what he liked about maddy is that there's this theme of being drawn to traditional feminity/someone that can play a traditionally feminine role

i think there are a lot of factors that play into him wanting that-- it reflects what he's familiar with, a more feminine partner will push back less/be easier to manipulate (in his head at least), and maybe a smidge of comphet depending on how you read his sexuality

one of his main fantasies is saving maddy from another man and when maddy was trying to win him over, she played into her femininity (and cassie kind of did the same)

and when you think about these reasons and the kind of girl he'd want to go for (and you look at the way he treats maddy when he apologizes and when they first started dating) it's natural for him to have some kinder qualities that come from the instinct to fill that traditionally masculine role in a relationship

so, when considering all of that,, i think nate can be really charming, maybe even a little chivalrous when he's really trying to win someone over

i also think nate's relatively good at reading people, and he can clock that the reader from that last blurb is trying to be a party girl more than actually being one, he knows that reader would never want to be around him if he's openly an asshole, so he manipulates subtly (telling reader to keep their interactions a secret from maddy for her own sake, all while knowing that the sooner he breaks that 'secret keeping' barrier, it'll only get easier to get reader to keep more and more from her friends)

i also see nate as someone who is very capable of being likeable when he wants to be, and reader being kind of sheltered/"innocent" and maddy's friend and being so determined to not like him makes him want to put in the work,,

so he's going to make a point of being soft spoken and nice when he has to see reader, and the harder she tries to dismiss him, the more he's going to commit bc it becomes less about getting maddy's attention and a little more about his ego,, and then finally, about reader

and if we're comparing this reader to final girl!reader or best friend! reader,, (you guys have no way of having known this, i barely referenced it in one sentence) i see this reader as being less looked out for

i picture her mom as one of those moms that wants to be "the cool mom" so bad so that she can pretend her daughter's friends are hers too, and she's so excited that reader is being more social/popular that she's a little lost in it

and i see reader's dad (not me finally giving readers a dad) as being almost the polar opposite, strict and traditional,, so reader still feels the need to hide going out and drinking bc it starts arguments with her parents and that makes her feel guilty

i'd really love to write a fic explaining all of these dynamics and how they overlap with the same style of narration that euphoria episodes that center a specific character's background story are,, i love mimicking niche voices like that it's so fun

anyways this was really long for no reason <3

#ask #elle yaps 🩷 #if you give me an opportunity to psychologically analyze i'm taking it #jacob elordi x reader #nate jacobs x reader

[benrybenrybenry-chr]

Could you explain how bbc ruined john? I grew up with that sherlock

yeah sure!

basically, to put it simplest, BBC's John Watson is not anything like John Watson as a character. As a standalone character I think I wouldn't have cared nearly as much? I mean I still personally wouldn't like him cuz he was kind of a piece of shit at times but I can still find the appeal in that. no the main issue I face is that he just acts nothing like Watson and tbh like- a lot of his actions even go against Watson's ideals??

first of all his relationship with Holmes (im gonna be using their last names here because calling them by their first names feels wrong to me) is just- weirdly negative? I don't know, him constantly making Holmes out to be a total asshole and a villain in his life is SO out of character. (though to be honest it's warranted given how out of character Holmes is in that show too, he's a total asshole for no good reason)

I think honestly the best example of this change with Watson's personality and how drastic it is, is The Empty Hearse/The Empty House

in The Empty Hearse, John's immediate reaction is to PHYSICALLY HARM Sherlock

in The Empty House, Watson's immediate reaction is (and I'm not even kidding) to faint, be woken up, and be incredibly starstruck and just happy that his best friend is alive

(I don't have a clip of BBC Sherlock but I do have one of Granada Holmes, which is the most accurate to ACD/book canon)

this also very much highlights the difference between BBC Sherlock and ACD Holmes, but that's besides the point

I'd also like to mention something that really especially annoyed me and that's that he?? is literally useless in that show???? Watson in the books is really intelligent and helps Holmes in numerous cases as well as gives his input (WHICH HOLMES TAKES TO HEART AND DOESNT JUST COMPLETELY IGNORE, BTW 🙄🙄 that always ticked me off with BBC) and does more than just get kidnapped a couple times and take notes.

ALSO ACD WATSON WOULD NEVER CHEAT ON HIS WIFE!!! OR BLAME HOLMES FOR MARY'S DEATH!!! NEVER!! would absolutely never happen. (though to be fair, ACD's equivalent of Mary's death happened in the 3 year gap between The Final Problem and The Empty House, so, yk)

if they met BBC Watson would not leave that room without broken bones lmao

idunnoidunno its a lot of "WATSON WOULD NEVER DO THAT" moments and gut feelings, it's difficult to describe properly, I found it very difficult to root for him when I felt like he was an un-likeable protagonist idkidk

(additionally they removed his fucking mustache and that is their worst offense /hj)

#acd canon #acd holmes #john watson #dr watson #I think its fine if other people like him or like that characterization! #its entirely fine its just personally my least favorite #and I promise I dont judge anyone who likes him #I watched all of BBC Sherlock? and it just kinda made me mad the whole time so I dont have very possitive feelings abt it

[desire-mona]

why i think richard cameron is Like That

the long awaited cam analysis post of sorts!!!

so to start off, let me acknowledge the obvious: CAMERON SUCKED FOR WHAT HE DID TO HIS FRIENDS. THAT WAS MEAN AND SHITTY OF HIM, HE DESERVED TO GET PUNCHED IN THE FACE AND HE DESERVED TO HAVE HIS FRIENDS STOP LIKING HIM. this post is just to paint a more nuanced picture of the motivations and reasoning behind his cam-ness. also i feel the need to address that my love for dylan kussman HEAVILY influences my opinion on cameron, so please keep that in find when u read this. if my bias shows at any point then feel free to offer your perspective, odds are i'll find a way to agree :3

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lets start at the very beginning of the movie, his first appearance with the tradition banner. this obviously wasn't anything i rly thought of in depth on my first watch, but on my second watch i was like oh Hm.

tradition, of course, is a BIG aspect of welton that the movie repeatedly emphasises, drawing lots of attention to how nothing changes. i find cam holding the tradition banner especially interesting in relativity to neil holding the excellence banner specifically. cam very clearly tries his best to embody the rules of welton (more on this later) and very rarely deviates from those rules, although he does on occasion (again - more on this later.) but despite his attempts to be the manifestation of those values are never met with any praise, unlike neil. that's not to say that neil isn't deserving of that praise though, absolutely he is deserving, but in terms of academics specifically, cam's pretty up there too! this part doesnt exactly tie in directly with the rest of the post, but just thought id point it out first to add a layer to the rest of my thoughts.

how i view cam's character arc is something that's framed in a way thats not supposed to be viewed as an arc, i suppose (interesting considering the tradition thing hm). of course thats inaccurate as he does in fact have in arc, it just small in relation to the more forefront-ed poets. and it makes him ultimately less likeable, so.

during a majority of the movie (pre neil death) cam is known as the guy who doesnt like to break rules, that much is obvious, but in the end he still does with the dead poets society. now the reasoning behind that isnt actually touched on in a direct way, so there are a few different ways you can view that. i'll touch on a few different reasonings that me, @pencileraser1, and @good--merits-accumulated came up with.

my reasoning - i see cam's willingness to break the rules as cam holding his friends' idea of him on a high pedestal, constantly taking into consideration what they think. not wanting his friends to consider him a loser or boring in any way, he joins despite the anxiety surrounding being caught. not without fuss though, he does still outwardly talk about how this isnt something they should be doing. all this and yet he does in fact join, AND he doesnt rat anyone out for a majority of the movie (even after the call from god dealio!!!) fomo, basically.

nick's reasoning (found in this post) - he just wanted his friends to be safe!!! joining to (in my view) keep them in line in terms of safety as well as. i guess. provide the reminder of the consequences i suppose?? nick im opening up the floor to u if u wanna delve into this point more cuz ur definitely able to provide better reasoning n such. if asking nick to talk abt things was a full time job.

tristan's reasoning (discussed in dms) - cam's need for authority. tristan brought up a very good headcanon/ theory/ something or other that cam is the type to need constant direction or authority, and i totally agree! (reason for that will - again - come up later.) now this culminates in a couple different ways. 1) most obviously, adhereing (ehh) to the rules of welton, and 2) his relationship with the rest of the poets. due to the size of the welton student body, a lack of individual direction from teachers and staff is almost inevitable. so to fill that gap, he adheres to his friends' """"""rules"""""", and joins the poets. floor is open to you as well if you'd like to elaborate further, tristan :3

my thoughts of cam being super focused on his friends' idea of him actually started as a bit. i believe i made a hc post about smoking weed?? maybe?? and said something along the lines of "cam would smoke even if he doesnt want to, not cuz of peer pressure from his friends but more of a self imposed peer pressure. thinking its rude/ cringe/ uncool to turn down smthn like this bc all the rest of the guys r doing it." but after a rewatch of the scene in dps where theyre all walking outside, it started having some merit in my mind! in that scene, keating does a sort of imitation of cameron when he first starts to walk, something like "am i doing this right?", "am i walking weird?", etc. (paraphrasing ofc.) so i sort of took that aspect and applied it to other parts of his character and found out that oh, this actually kinda makes sense!

speaking of keating and his lessons, lets talk carpe diem.

now my interpretation of cam is that he doesn't exactly *want* to apply carpe diem in his life, seeing it as an antithesis of the welton values. only joining the poets for the reasons mentioned above. however, he does indeed apply it in my eyes, but more as a fucked up reversal and dickish version which eventually ends up in him deservedly getting punched. now is this how keating intended him to interpret carpe diem? ehhhhhhhhhhhhh,, it's complicated, let's talk about the context a bit.

this part is more theorising than anything, so take it with a few grains of salt if u wish.

cam quite obviously is a pretty big stickler for the rules, which i believe is a result of outside influence. id like to thank @lovech1ld for reminding me of this! cam's parents/ grandparents/ guardians are noticably older than the other poets, which, in my eyes, makes a heavy emphasis on following the rules make a lot more sense (respect your elders type shit.) so this, combined with the inherent fear of authority that most of the boys seem to have, makes him a chronic rule follower. but it goes further than that, after these ideas have been pushed for so long, i feel that cameron's started to mix up his own personal morals and values with the morals and values of welton, viewing those two things as one in the same. here's where that starts to muddy things up in terms of carpe diem.

i interpret cam's finking AS his application of carpe diem in his life, but as more of a subconscious choice. now you may be thinking "hey. mona. what?" and i UNDERSTAND! but here's my reasoning behind that. as i mentioned/ theorised before, cam has a very high opinion of his friends' idea of him, but this does eventually change after neil's passing. his subconscious carpe diem application, to put it into proper words, was a way to stick up for himself and his beliefs despite what all his friends think. again, being brought about by neils death, since he didn't choose to rat anyone out when the opportunity first presented itself during the call from god assembly. and i dont think cam sticking up for himself is inherently a bad thing!! but! since cam's idea of his morals are so clouded by welton's, this isn't actually sticking up for himself, this is just being a tattletale.

he did provide other reasoning for doing so to the poets of course, so lets talk a bit about that too. he says something along the lines of "i did it for neil" and "this is what he wouldve wanted" which is obviously bullshit, objectively. but i don't think he saw it that way, i think he genuinely believed thats what he thought neil would've wanted, as stupid of him as that was. obviously thats not what he wouldve wanted AT ALL, and why he actually thought that is FAR beyond me. but i really dont think he wouldve turned anyone in if he didnt genuinely believe it, especially considering the fact that he was PART of the dead poets. even if he was the one to confess, im sure he likely got punished as well. (which also couldve been what he wanted? tristan this is an opening to also discuss catholic cam on here bc ur reasonings for that were INCREDIBLE.)

on top of this, i really dont think that cam actually understood the weight of what turning in everyone would do. now i will say right away, hes not dumb, he knew that keating would be fired and charlie would be expelled, and that alone should've turned him away if he really wanted to honor neil. as i said before we started, he absolutely deserved to be punched and lose his friends, that was a dick move that ended up ruining two lives for a long long time, if not forever.

but.

due to him grieving, his rules = morals shtick, and fear of authority, i think he turned in the poets without giving actual, proper thought into what the consequences of that would be. which manifests itself both in the film with the final scene.

in the last scene where all of the boys stand on the desk, we see multiple shots of cam looking around and looking at everyone standing. and we (or at least i) can definitely see some sort of consideration to join them!!! he of course doesnt, and ends up choosing to sit, looking QUITE ashamed. this too can he interpreted a couple ways, either as him being embarrassed that his peers are doing this, or as him wanting to join them but knowing that he was the reason keating was fired. knowing that it would be incredibly disingenuous, even if he stood as a way to sort of apologise to keating + the poets for what he did and show that he regrets his actions, he stayed seated. and was so. so. mad at himself for it.

now i don't remember where i heard this so im not sure how to go about fact checking, but i believe the choice to keep cam seated was ultimately dylan kussman's?????? but dont take my word as gospel in terms of that, i very well could be wrong.

BUT! this gives me an opportunity to talk abt how much i love dylan kussman!!!!! nick vocalised the thought before i was able to in one of his posts, but considering the fact that i agree wholeheartedly, i'll reiterate it. i see rsl and ethan hawke constantly be praised (deservedly!) for their understanding of the inner workings of their characters, especially reflected in the desk set scene. and while YES ABSOLUTELY, i think dylan needs this praise as well. dylan was the PERFECT casting choice for cameron and i will shout that from the rooftops until my voice goes hoarse. so so so many of his little mannerisms, facial expressions, ways of speaking, soooo many etceteras are just so. so. CAMERON! even the most comprehensive directorial choices cant top an actor's inherent understanding of a character and reflection of that in their performance. good god! i think my new dream in life is to ask dylan about how he came about properly embodying cameron and his process in doing so.

anyway

with my dylan fanfare over, that about wraps up my thoughts on cam in terms of the film itself. HOWEVER. i have lots and lots of thoughts after a long convo with tristan about certain headcanons and post-canon theories and whatever. will probably touch on those but i dont really have my thoughts properly collected enough, so that wont be until later.

as per usual with these types of posts, everyone else is welcome to add any input they may have. cam is one of my fav things to talk abt in terms of dps so i will eat up every single little thing. thank u for reading!!!!

#desire mona #WOO MAN #this took a while #but we're done!! finally!!! #dead poets society #richard cameron #dylan kussman #banger

[kewltie]

when deku is hit w a quirk that make the ppl be completely smitten w him & the caveat is that the person isnt already in love with someone else already and ofc he's their type (i.e. like a lesbian would have zero interest in him), dynamight is tasked to 'protect' his chastity lol. katsuki is chosen bc he's the no.2 hero, strong enough to deter izuku's very vapid and insistence suitors, and is completely immune to izuku's 'charm' so it makes sense. nobody is worry that katsuki is going to attack izuku when he drop his guard bc obviously izuku isnt his type.

katsuki isnt in a relationship and the fact that the charm quirk has no effect on him clearly translate to katsuki having no romantic feeling toward so it's fine. izuku's chastity is in good hands as katsuki acts as a his temporary guard against his aggressive admirers. it's not like the entire world fell head over heel over izuku due to he quirk but bc of the stipulations not everyone he encounter go crazy over him but the fact that like 1/4 ppl are affected by this quirk... surprised izuku so much bc he doesnt think hes even that likeable :P.

izuku going into work and one of his senpai who always been nice and good to him suddenly hit on him and IZUKU IS LIKE SO FLUSTERED bc he never though his senpai would think he's remotely attractive as katsuki glowers and shoves the guy away bc this is becoming really annoying. even when izuku is out on patrol VILLAINS start proposing marriage to him or fighting each other for his attention and katsuki gives a bloodthirsty smile as he happily beats them all to the ground and drag them to prison and izuku is like maybe i should take a leave of absence.

it only last a week but bkdk encounter various hijinks of the quirk attracting a lot of unwanted attention and izuku is constantly surprised by how many ppl actually think he's APPEALING. katsuki's annoyance only grows more that he considers locking izuku up to save the headache. during this time katsuki remains immune and unaffected by izuku's charm, treating him the same as always. izuku is ever grateful that he never has to worry about katsuki waxing poetry about his eyes or kidnap him for marriage but it's also painful to realize that katsuki never thought of him that way at all :(.

at the end though when ppl are no longer throwing themselves at him, he tells katsuki isnt it fortunate that katsuki's lack of interest in izuku save him...? katsuki stares at him and quietly but firmly reveals that the quirk doesnt work on him bc he's in love with izuku already.

#bakudeku #not!ficlet