#they want the best for jiang cheng

[truly-morgan]

[Transfem JC, feat. protective WWX and JL]

MingCheng | Mo Dao Zu Shi Modern AU 20-06-2021

[Modern #mingcheng with trans woman jc]

What if trans!JC in her early 30's wants to start dating again after being single and alone for so long? (Raising jl isn't easy and her last relationship didn't finish well). She tries dating app, wwx at her side doing commentary on the guys they're seeing.

Really, no one seems interesting.

Then a familiar face pops on her screen and they are both surprised. "Isn't that nhs brother/lxc friends?" They both comment at the same time, looking more closely at the profile.

Jc has to admit, nmj is really handsome and well, his description wouldn't have caught her eyes normally, but already knowing him make her swipes right. They keep looking at profiles and messaging those who already matched jc (nothing really impressive tbh) until a notification tells them nmj matched with jc.

Jc is pretty happy and excited about it if she has to be honest and the chatting goes pretty well. They have a couple of things in common, have similar tastes and jc really enjoys talking with him.

It doesn't take long before they settle on a first date (and of course wwx helped pick up a cute outfit with the help of jl). The date goes well and others quickly follow up, often messaging each other in the day. Officially dating comes after a while of flirting and meeting up.

As the relationship starts to be serious, jc starts to be a bit nervous.

They never went farther than cuddling, kissing and making out a bit and nmj clearly doesn't know she's trans.

Jl and wwx enter in protective mode because they /won't/ allow anyone to hurt jc again. Jl absolutely loves his aunt and she deserves the best and he won't ever let anyone hurt her now that he is a bit older. He cannot understand how anyone could see jc as bad for who she is.

On the other hand, wwx has been by jc side since she came out to him as trans and never let her down even when shit went really messy and hard. He is happy to see her doing so well now and being happy, he won't let any other jackass break her heart.

But they also both know jc cannot exactly keep this a secret from nmj forever.

So jc invite him over because she want to talk about something important (while jl and wwx are here, they both refused to let them alone, jc is secretly relieved about that stubbornness of them). Nmj is worried something might have happened but doesn't force her to tell him, instead coming over to hear what is the important thing she has to say.

when he get there, jc pushes wwx and jl to another room, not wanting for their presence to make nmj nervous (but close enough to hear and be ready to come if the worst outcome were to happen).

she makes some tea to calm her nerve, finally sitting down with nmj at the kitchen table. she doesn't say anything at first, searching how to say it, ending up with going for straightforward (nmj prefers straightforwardness and she doesn't want to dance around the subject).

"So, there's something I haven't told you yet, but feel would be important to tell you if we continue with this relationship" jc starts, hand fiddling with the handle of her cup, "I didn't want you to discover from someone else or by accident, so I wanted to tell you myself before things get farther".

at this point, nmj is a bit confused as to what could be so important to tell him that could make him want to /break up/ with jc. He offers a small smile, hoping it can reassure her as she gathers her courage.

"I... am trans" jc finally says.

she wants to have more, but the lack of actual reaction makes her nervous and tense up, fiddling more with the teacup. "I-I get it if you don't want to stay with me, am used to it don't worry you can just tell me, at least it will hurt les-" she starts to ramble nervously before jumping as a hand grabbed hers gently.

jc then looks up to meet nmj eyes, the man smiles softly at her with no hint of disappointment and disgust, just reassurance and love.

"I won't leave you simply because you are who you are" he assures her first, "I love the jc I met and you being trans won't change it, I will be there to support you too".

jc finally manages to calm down, laughing a bit she tears up, happy that nmj isn't like her exes and is clearly more than fine with her being trans. she lets him pull her into strong and reassuring arms, letting herself fully calm down from this subject that had made her more stressed than usual.

jl and wwx eventually come out from their hiding, which does make nmj a bit curious because he didn't expect for them to be hidden (maybe not jl since he lives here, but wwx yes).

jc mentioned they wouldn't let her stay in the apartment alone because of bad past experiences (tho she doesn't go much on those past experiences and nmj doesn't push her to do so).

They end up talking a bit more, nmj wanting to know what were things he shouldn't do or say to make her uncomfortable if she ever needs his help for anything trans-related. jc is a bit curious as to why he seems so used to it and nmj admits that his brother is also trans.

"Wait, he is?" wwx asks surprised

nmj I suddenly a bit nervous that he might have outed his brother (he saw nhs often talking about it with other friends, so he assumed he had told them).

after a call to his brother nmj is reassured to hear nhs is alright with it (he thought he had told them actually and is surprised neither of them really caught onto it).

so everything is fine, jc gets a nice and supportive boyfriend and everyone is happy (tho it doesn't stop wwx and jl from testing nmj like before to make sure he won't break jc hearts too).

I dunno why, but I want nhs and jc to have self-care nights (nhs suggestion after seeing jc so stressed) and they talk about anything and sometimes trans thing while nmj is just sitting next to them, helping out with whatever they are doing while being a bit confused as to what they are talking about (but it's fine, he also learn more like this).

I just wanted trans lady jc to have a good boyfriend and now she has, no one can ever hurt her with a little protection squad (which now also includes lxc and jgy because they ain't gonna let anyone hurt their friend's girlfriend)

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#tweet archive #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #mingcheng #nie mingjue #jiang cheng #modern au #trans jiang cheng #transfem jiang cheng #trans headcanon #protective jin ling #protective wei wuxian #they want the best for jiang cheng

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Assisting Acquaintance Acquired.

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#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #wen ning #wei wuxian #Ignore how Wen Ning's hair looks here because I messed it up. Let's pretend he just sported a different hair style for a brief moment. #I am not exactly great at consistency but I am trying very hard to work on that (immediately messes up again). #Absolutely *love* how Wen Ning clearly remembers and admires WWX...who does *not* recognize him. #This is the best day for Wen Ning and it means *nothing* to WWX. A painful one-sided crush made worse. #It is bittersweet to realize that we care about someone more than they care about us. Sometime we pour love into a relationship- #-with someone who just can't reciprocate. It isn't always a conscious things either. Some people just aren't aware we care. #And painfully - so painfully - You can't make them aware. No act of kindness or gift or self sacrifice will make someone care about you. #You can martyr yourself for someone and they will continue on unchanged. #I think a lot about the parallels between WN and LWJ. Not foils - just reflections. A theme repeated. #People who give so much of themselves to someone who doesn't have the capacity to give any part of themself away. #I will die on the hill of 'Wen Ning would be the love triangle romance if that trope wasn't being avoided'. #And to be honest - thank the stars above that is the case. I do not know any good love triangles in media. #We are skipping some of the sad Jiang Cheng content because I really want to finish season 2 before May. #Sorry JC emo moment lovers...I'll deliver another time.

[lgbtlunaverse]

So I've been wondering about one particuar point on the "Jiang Cheng marriage recquirement" list and it's the one about low cultivation.

Now on its face, except for the "must be nice to jin ling" point, the whole thing just looks like the most standard list of "ideal wife characteristics under a patriarchal society." naturally beautiful, graceful and obedient, coming from a good family, voice not too loud, etc. This leads to either the interpretation that jiang cheng really wants that (doubt dot png) or just... put all the most stereotypical things on a list even though that's not what he really wants.

In that context "cultivation must not be too high" sounds like a typical "men are scared of women who are smarter/stronger" thing. you know, the dudes who feel 'intimidated' when their wife or girlfriend makes more money than them.

...Except wasn't Yanli openly mocked for her low cultivation? Like, wasn't one of the reasons Jin Zixuan was such an ass to her initially because he shallowly assumed her lower cultivation made her an unworthy marriage candidate? Jin Guangshan may hate women who can read but society overal doesn't give the impression that high cultivation in women is seen as something undesirable. I mean... a wife that never looks like she's over 20 even as she starts aging? yeah I have no problem believing a misogynistic society is okay with high cultivation.

So if it's not there just to fit the stereotypical standard of an ideal wife...

Jiang Cheng, are you just describing your sister?

LIke?? Every single point on this list applies to Yanli. All of them. I don't mean this in a freudian incest-y way but in a "jiang cheng are you so unaware of what you want in a partner you just took the only woman you've had an unambiguously good relationship with and hoped no one would notice???" way. Does he know the difference in what you should like about your sister and what you should like in a spouse? Is he even aware he's doing this? Jiang Cheng answer meeeee.

#mdzs #jiang cheng #mdzs headcanons #mdzs meta #you can take this headcanon so many places #is he like this because he's gay? aro? actually attracted to women but too emotionally stunted to know what he even wants? #in cql canon the whole list imo becomes about wen qing #in a 'i'm still not over my dead not-girlfriend so all my recquirements are for someone extremely unlike her' way #is it self-sabotage? trying to avoid being reminded of her? who knows! #but in novel canon chengqing's not real so there it's about yanli #i mean the list isn't even IN the novel so depending on whether you consider word of god canon or not it doesn't even exist there #but it's so fun to play with #also i know in novel canon yani is described as at best 'above average' looks wise #but are YOU gonna tell one of her brothers she's not the most beautiful woman in the world? #i don't think so

[lancabbage]

Just spotted this on a post answering an ask about people claiming LSZ should have been taken in by the Jiang sect instead - you know, the sect that actually headed the attack to kill him and his family, the one with the abusive sect leader who has no qualms physically and mentally abusing a child, yeah that one... I mean... Firstly wtf?! Are these people for real???

I seem to be unable to reply to the bech, but I thought I should point out that essays are based on FACTS, what you would be writing is a STORY plucked from your ass!

Please, I'd love to read your ridiculous piece of fiction masquerading as something vaguely academic. I need a good laugh 😂

#mdzs #canon jiang cheng #lan wangji #lan sizhui #wen yuan #lsz is the best boy #he's literally everything wwx wanted him to be #why would a bitter child abuser take on a Wen? #he wanted them all dead #including the innocent toddler he was repulsed by when he met him #some people are too stupid to fix

[barawrah]

wwx goes home after reincarnation au

#yunmeng bros you hurt me everyday #zhancheng are best friends here !! #they send letters every week . back and forth #its mostly not at all subtle insults and pretty subtle worrying about each other #gestures at wangji guys i think he should live in lotus pier #picks him up from the cr and puts him in a little room beside jiang chengs #and they . cohabitate #its funny . they like each other a lot because well this is what happens when #you have to coparent your dead brother/persons kid and your sister/sil s kid #and then wwx comes back and lwj is in cr for something and #jc sends him a letter like are u sure u want to do this u can still say no #ok thats it #art tag #mdzs #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #yunmeng shuangjie #wangxian #a little bit

[rhymaes]

The Untamed, Ep. 11 // The Untamed, Ep. 48

#you can’t cross the distance to your brother but you can build a doorway to watch the loss through!!! #INSANE SHIT. GOD. HIS FACE. THE TRAGEDY OF LOSING SOMETHING AS YOU HOLD IT #AND MERLIN BADE FAREWELL TO THE KING HE HAD CREATED!!! #THIS HAPPENED LONG AGO NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE IT!! FUCK. FUCK!! #Wei wuxian saying the cruelest thing he possibly could to his brother thinking it’s the kindest & just. #the way it world destroy both of them to know that. good. god. #the best part abt rewatching this series is 1.) I can understand what’s actually happening & the foreshadowing SLAYS & 2.) their relationsh #ip & seeing just how badly Wei wuxian backed himself in thta corner & Jiang cheng should have known to help him but he didn’t know how to lo #ok yet. because that came wijt time and experience and not having to build your home back up from the ground where evil people killed your p #arents & tortured your brother & now neither of you can really speak correctly to each other because there’s a gap #you don’t know how to cross because you don’t know yet who put it there #& then 16 years later in a temple you see what it is and why it’s there and that your brother will never #try to cross it because he thinks it’s a kindness #when all you’ve ever wanted was for him to stay. #ANYWAY. CRAZY HUH #the untamed #mdzs #jiang cheng #jiang wanyin #wei wuxian #wei wuxain #I don’t know the right spelling now these tags r making me doubt SO #wei ying

[lizhly-writes]

hey guys do you wanna hear about my bad idea ahahaha i'm just joking i'm going to tell you whether you like it or not.

anyway! au where jiang fengmian brings back a starving orphan from the streets, and his name is yue qi.

(what happened to wei wuxian? don't worry about it it's fine) (idk maybe he doesn't exist? whatever)

yue qi is strong. yue qi is talented. yue qi tries harder than anyone. yue qi is perfect and you can't even really be irritated at him for it, because he's nice and polite and good-tempered and absolutely everything you could ask for in a da-shixiong.

jiang cheng feels so fucking bad about this. second best even in a whole new au, huh, a-cheng? but it's not your fault. even op protagonist bing-ge couldn't beat yue qi in a fair fight!

nobody knows this, though, so you're just going to have to suffer through the comparisons. it's your mom and your dad and all the little disciples thinking that yue qi is better than you. ooooh, that can't be good for that burgeoning inferiority complex your mom's instilled in you, huh?

but, you know. jiang cheng's going to be sect leader. he's going to need a strong sect. even if his mom fuckin bitches at him for not being as good as yue qi -- yue qingyuan -- then at least he's going to have a strong right hand, right?

HAHAHAHA.

so there are two routes we can go here. for the sake of my early morning ramblings, we're going to go for the more unrealistic one that requires me to jump through more hoops, because i think it's hilarious.

yue qingyuan starts getting more distant as he gets older. going on long nighthunts away from the lotus pier, you know. he stops leading the disciples in morning drills -- or, well, it's less that he stops, and more that he's not around to actually do that.

he's not around a lot.

snide, snide commentary about how yue qingyuan is going to run away to become a rogue cultivator, just like -- (but we don't talk about them). how yue qingyuan's not going to be da-shixiong for much longer. every time yue qingyuan returns to lotus pier, he seems to be more tired, more wound up, more stressed out --

and then everything stops. yue qingyuan comes back one day emotionally catatonic. he doesn't respond properly when people talk to him. unrelatedly (of course it's unrelated), there is some wailing and weeping in the night. some little shidi thinks that somehow a resentful ghost has made it into the pier and alerts da-shixiong about it in the morning.

thankfully, da-shixiong is back to normal in the morning. "i'll take a look," da-shixiong says, and then everybody forgets about it because da-shixiong is back and da-shixiong stops going on those long nighthunts away and everything is fiiiinnnne, don't worry. and if da-shixiong is a bit more brittle after that -- well, you're probably just imagining it.

jiang cheng worries about it. but yue qingyuan never says anything, because that's what yue qingyuan does. he never says annnnnnything to anyone.

of course, there's only so long you can argue with da-shixiong when the plot is coming up. gusu happens. the wens happen.

jiang cheng and yue qingyuan get sent to the wen evil summer camp, or whatever it's called. indoctrination, right?

lectures. drills. meaningless busy work for the sake of beating people down. obedience, and more obedience. there's a wen staring down every class, just waiting for them to slip up. there's one in particular that seems to have it out for yue qingyuan, sharp mouthed and pointy and HAHAHA OKAY, you've probably guessed who this is, haven't you? you're a genre-savvy audience, i bet!

ah, but i'll spell it out anyway, don't worry. for a-cheng, maybe, because jiang cheng can't guess, because yue qingyuan doesn't tell him anything. jiang cheng's out of the loop, on the outside, like he always is with yue qingyuan. don't worry, jiang cheng -- you're not special. he treats you like he treats everyone else.

but ah, that's the problem, isn't it?

jiang cheng stumbles over da-shixiong at night, past curfew, arguing with the wen. or, really, it's not arguing -- the wen is verbally eviscerating him, and yue qingyuan is just letting him. attacks on yue qingyuan's character and talent and everything, and about how yue qi's CLEARLY found a replacement (replacement? what does that mean?) and fine, you think you're so respectable now, of course only a high-bred sect heir is good for you (that jiang-gongzi, do you think he's a better version of me) (is this the version of me you've always wanted?) --

all yue qingyuan says is "i'm sorry, i'm sorry, i'm sorry--"

there's got to be one question on your mind, huh, a-cheng? yue qingyuan seems to know this wen. pretty well, it seems -- those insults aren't generic, this seems personal. why? how?

who the hell is wen qingqiu?

#liz rants #yue qingyuan #jiang cheng #that feeling when your beloved shixiong loves your sect enemy more than you #yue qi's already given his loyalty to someone else! #so i call this the more unrealistic route because i suuuuper think that yue qi should be able to find shen jiu under these conditions #like how is he not finding shen jiu if shen jiu's spent all this time staying one place #AND he's in a sect that lets him fuck off whenever he wants (jiang freedom woooo) #more realistically i think that he would have brought shen jiu back to lotus pier #and it is THERE that jiang cheng has the horrible realization that his best friend's best friend is not him #miserable in a different kind of way! #or well would jiang cheng even form this connection with yue qi to begin with? yue qi and wei wuxian aren't very similar i think #and even if he did would yue qi really think nothing of it? #there's a difference between being friendly with your fellow head disciples at cang qiong #and being forced in a weird pseudo-brother position at lotus pier #probably some different emotions there #but then where do you get this across the war lines drama #where do you get yue qingyuan cutting himself off from the jiang sect after the war to try and save his xiao jiu? #a-cheng let's prove all your fears right #all this time you truly weren't enough #clearly yue qi never really DID care about you #svsss #mdzs

[lady-of-the-spirit]

Need people to consider. Lesbians MingCheng.

#like butch lesbian sect leader nie mingjue. thinking 'jiang cheng is the only other woman Sect leader. and the youngesg here.' #and takes jc under her wing. and jiang cheng is like 'oh thank god a Sect leader who doesn't make me want to rip my hair out.' #and also 'i cannot have a crush on my best friend's older sister for reasons one to infinity' (platonic sangcheng y'all!) #nie huaisang could still be a man in this au i think it adds a little spice to the whole situation. #ANYWAY. consider it lesbians mingcheng #mingcheng #nie mingjue #jiang cheng #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #the untamed #i'm saying stuff #gender bend

[waitineedaname]

I have finally gotten myself together, and written the beginnings of my fake political marriage chengqing fix-it!

an excerpt from the first part:

Jiang Cheng was embarrassed to admit that this particular solution had occurred to him frequently after their last parting, when he was kept awake wondering about her safety. It wasn’t the most elegant solution, and definitely not his preferred solution, and it would easily create more problems than it solved, but… “What if we were engaged?” “Jiang Cheng, have you gone insane?” Wei Wuxian said, which was really rich coming from him of all people. Wen Qing looked like she agreed with him and this pained her.

and from the second:

“Jiang-zongzhu, I appreciate everything you are doing for me and my family,” Wen Qing folded her hands on her lap and stared him down imperiously, “But I have no intention of having sex with you.” Jiang Cheng wondered if the stress of the last week had finally pushed him over the edge and this was a hallucination caused by qi deviation. “I didn’t expect you to!”

#the untamed #mdzs #jiang cheng #wen qing #chengqing #wei wuxian #jgs is also there but I don't want to tag him #my writing #i am furthering my aro4aro married chengqing agenda!!!! #they will eventually be in a qpr but they haven't gotten there yet #this au has occupied. so much of my brain lately. so I'm very excited to post it! #it's really hard writing from this point in the story #bc both wwx and wq are not at their best and therefore aren't acting how they would usually #i'm excited to explore more of this au #both bad things (jc is now in close proximity to the people who did non-con surgery on him im sure this won't have any consequences) #and good things (wen yuan gets to grow up among jiang disciples and jin ling!)

[demonicfarmer69]

Q: Does Jiujiu ever talk to JL about his maternal grandparents? 

🍋: he speaks of them with respect. but if my jiujiu raised me like my grandparents did, i....

#yea they fought a lot and even put me in between of their shouting matches #frequently which was an uncomfortable position to be in but they're my parents and i respect them a lot #listen the jiang parents are a whole can of mixed beans and ppl have many opinions on them ranging from positive to negative. #but imo jc would be the type of person to be like #regardless of whatever lvl of damage the jiang parents did to him. + #its jl so theres no way he would want to damage the image of his own parents in front of his own nephew #jl growing up under his jiujiu and seeing how strict but lenient jc is with him would find the parenting methods of the jiang parents as ... #jc is a mini yzy becaus he nags at jl like yzy did to jc YES but the difference is #jl is not hurt from it and still sees jc as a beacon of protection someone he can go to if hes hurt (biggest example is the boat scene.) #the best way i can summarise jc and jl's relationship is that jc is the eldest sister turned parent who has full responsibility over their y #does not have the same authority over the younger sib the same way a parent does #jc has influence over jl and jl respects jc but jc will never be able to have full authority over jl because jc is simply just his guardian/ #Adult Figure in his life #<- this rant is a yr old but i still agree w/ these points heh #jiang cheng #jin ling #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #jims2kevent

[roseclaw]

COMPLETED \o/

Title: Fool's Gold

Pairings: JC/NHS, JYL/NMJ

Rating: M - for violence

Total wc: 115,389 :D

Tags: Alternate Universe - Western, Low Fantasy, Blood and Gore, Gun Violence, Horror Elements, Mild Sexual Content, Fierce Corpses (Módào Zǔshī), Large Cast, Somebody Lives/Not Everyone Dies, Fluff and Angst, BAMF Niè Huáisāng, but he is also a little shit, saloon owner!nhs, bounty hunter!jc, the real villain is capitalism... and jgs, Case Fic

Summary:

The Good, the Bad, and the Undead Jiang Wanyin, bounty hunter, is after his last bounty before he settles down, and it's a big one.

#sangcheng #nie huaisang #jiang cheng #who wants to read the best thing I've ever written? :D? #also the longest

[unforth]

Y'all (general) really really need to exercise the block buttons more.

An opinion you don't agree with? Someone makes you uncomfortable? Something you don't like? Even just a person whose way of presenting information makes you uncomfortable (even if you agree with them)?

Block.

BLOCK.

B.L.O.C.K.

Look, I get it. I used to think seeing opinions I didn't agree with was important, that exposing myself was a way of staying informed. But finally, I hit a breaking point - I already knew the viewpoints I disagreed with, and seeing them every day was making me miserable.

I've blocked liberally since then.

And the most remarkable thing happened: I routinely see posts where lots of people are disagreeing with the same person...and I already have that person blocked.

Because the most insidious thing about letting myself see the negativity and things that made me unhappy all the time is that leaving it all there gave me the impression that there were a LOT of vocally awful people saying things that hurt me.

But there aren't.

There's actually a surprisingly small number of people who get off on trolling or are so marinated in hate that they have to spew it all around them, and when you block those people, the world gets much more peaceful.

You're not growing as a person by exposing yourself to rhetoric that hurts you. You're just hurting, which is exactly how those people want you to feel: they want you to be in as much agony as they are.

Don't give them the satisfaction.

BLOCK THEM.

(tbh I've hit the point that I think people who willfully, deliberately, loudly, intentionally don't block are engaging in a form of self-harm. seriously, you're not taking a noble stand, no one cares if you don't block except the people hurting you.)

#unforth rambles #my mutuals all know this so i'm preaching to the choir #did i see a bad jiang cheng take again #yes yes i did #but specifically i saw a bad jiang cheng take triggered by anti deciding to vent stupidity instead of blocking the things they didn't like #and then a stan engaging instead of also blocking #both these people would be happier if they blocked #like antis you do realize if you hate a character your best bet is to block the people who love them right #sorry the back and forth is just exhausting #i blocked the anti #and i almost blocked the pro too #stop engaging it's pointless just do your own thing and block the people who you don't agree with #it's not creating an echo chamber #i promise you're not a better person because you let the same terf or anti or racist or whoever #expose you to their toxicity over and over #you've already given them a hearing by reading their first drivel ya know the one that led you to block them #if you know enough to know they're terrible why would you want to give them a hearing on literally any other topic #block and move on #there are so many better people out there who are actually worth your time and energy

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

When you try to Manipulate and Manwhore yourself out of a situation, and end up a Malewife.

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#poorly drawn mdzs #MDZS #season 1 #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #lan wangji #I too am extremely vulnerable by people 'yes-and'ing me when I say things I expect them to react the opposite way to #WWX thinking LWJ is the same easily flustered teen as he was 15 years ago is a huge blunder but you cant really blame him #LWJ had 13 years of character development while you were napping (ghost style)!! #it is deeply hilarious how this plan does the opposite of what he wants #playing checkers while LWJ is playing chess kind of moves smh #LWJ is having the best day of his life while WWX is trying to find a way to distract him so he can start eating the pieces as a last resort #On another note; sorry i forgot JC's bangs in his last appearances. They reattached themselves to his sticky forehead

[listentothistrackbitches]

Honestly Jiang Cheng is the most fuckable virgin and I’m here for it.

#canon jiang cheng #what more could I want in a character #he has the best color scheme he’s a loving uncle he’s filled with trauma and has an ass that won’t quit

[amorremanet]

.

Happy Monday, this Barbie is seething in her corner because her fellow westerners insist on being ignorant jackasses about going “wAaAaAH, BuUuUuUuT iT’S iIiIiIiNcEsT!!!!1” with regard to Chengxian/Xiancheng, a ship that:

1. literally is not, by any definition, incest;

2. hugely affects the plot of its story in several ways that are directly related to it NOT being incest;

and 3. has several explanations about why it IS *NOT* incest out there, across multiple platforms, written by fans who actually know Chinese, don’t have to engage with the text exclusively in translation, and have a much stronger understanding of the cultural normas and nuances at play in this relationship than us westerners, who can read and learn and try to do better about checking ourselves while engaging with CN texts, but will likely always be, to some extent, projecting western ideas onto them

but………y’know, sure, whatever. If it makes you happy to completely flatten a deeply complex and nuanced relationship into “everything about them is Normal Sibling Behavior and that’s literally all it will ever be,” despite both CN fans explaining why that’s wrong and the text itself offering multiple examples to the contrary, then hey, be my guest (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

#opinions for ts #wank for ts #venting for ts #disclaimer: i fully endorse blocking anyone you want to block; i'm just venting abt people in mdzs/cql fandom doing so for reasons that are #at BEST based in serious cultural ignorance & projecting western ideas/definitions onto chinese media & seriously the puritanical #pearl-clutching of it all? mn. FAR too much. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID: #mine: text #fandom shenanigans #mdzs #chengxian #imagine saying with your whole chest that you block people who 'tag [your] posts featuring siblings as incest ships' #about a relationship that would genuinely be more socially acceptable in its own context if it WERE incest #because if it WERE incest then they would have 1.000% more of an excuse to be as obsessed with each other as they are #imagine calling yourself a jiang cheng stan & not understanding that: 1. he is genuinely obsessed with wwx to a degree that FAR EXCEEDS wha #is generally considered 'typical' or 'normal' for actual brothers (be they biological adopted sworn or martial); 2. jc gives wwx WAY more #latitude than actual blood family would get if they were doing even a fraction of what wwx does during his yllz arc; 3. jiang cheng's life #would be SIGNIFICANTLY FUCKING EASIER on *SEVERAL* counts if wwx were actually his brother—something jc COULD HAVE MADE HAPPEN with a sworn #brother ceremony but he just?? didn't?? felt it wasn't necessary maybe?? possibly internalized some of yzy's abuser logic about how wwx was #always showing him up & a Threat to him?? A LOT OF REASONS PROBABLY; MY MAN IS COMPLICATED—but doing said ceremony would've made jc's life #SO much easier bc he would've had an actual socially acceptable reason to treat wwx the way he does (& not to sound like enoby dark'ness #dementia raven way but: a/n—if u think either of them treats the other like Normal Brothers GET DA HELL OUTTA HERE. literally they only act #like Normal Siblings if your standards are the so-called 'erotic codependence' of Sam & Dean Winchester or literal canonical sibling-fucker #Cersei & Jaime Lannister………but lol ok sure jc's behavior toward wwx is TOTALLY just LiTtLe BrOtHeR SyNdRoMe!!!1); & 4. within the context o #the narrative? lmao 'normal' brothers do not sacrifice themselves for each other like jc does for wwx (& vice versa). 'normal' brothers in #mdzs spend 10+ years plotting an elaborate baroque revenge scheme to completely ruin a sworn brother's life bc he killed the bio-bro & also #stole nmj's filial vengeance kill by saving nmj from wen ruohan. 'normal' brothers judge each other's choices in precious meow-meows like #'i don't mind you being gay but does it have to be THIS guy?' 'normal' brothers send their bros to qiongxi pass knowing that Some Absolute #Fuckshit will likely ensue. like?? nowhere in the text of the novel do ANY of the 'normal' brother pairs behave ANYTHING like chengxian #i've said it elsewhere but nhs looks at chengxian like 'damn that's intense. can't relate. glad it's not me.' grigor mothman (he who gave u #cersei & jaime—literal twins!—fucking in a church next to their dead teenage son's corpse while she's menstruating) looks at xcx & goes

[starpros-sunshine]

sometimes I check mdzs twitter and get reminded that there's apparently people who don't realize that ''a victim of circumstance'' is an option in discussing various questions of guilt regarding the characters

#also that is written as a tragedy the whole point is that things could've worked out if people had just acted differently #You can say what you want but the fact remains wei wuxian didn't get himsefl his reputation for nothing #there is a reason people feared the guy #but you can also admit that he's a victim of circumstance and his story got exxagerated and he got demonized by the people #because that's how told stories work #everyone who tells them interprets them a little bit differently #you can say Jiang Cheng did nothing wrong ever but you can also say the guy is a complete asshole #which is right he is an asshole but he wouldn't have grown up to be one had he grown up differently #though personally I do think it's a little critical to say he always wanted the best for wwx when it has been explicitly stated that #he takes anyone he suspects to be the aforementioned with him and tortures them #that was the word used in german at least #you can talk a lot about jiang cheng actually he's very fun to discuss #<- he says. never having discussed about mdzs characters with anyone ever #but it's fun reading other peoples discussions and adding your own thought salt to the mix #have I mentioned that it's my favourite novel series? #I have yet to read tgcf I'm waiting for the books to be translated into german #which i hope happens sometime soon because I am slowly but surely getting impatient