#the tma characters that will be present

[mossy-bonez]

I want to talk about this au. So let’s begin with the TMA characters that will be around.

Jonathan “Jon” Sims: look it’s the silly eye man our poor little meow meow. Anywho this wet cat of a man just became the pupil of the eye so his powers and connection to the eye are much greater now, I mean so long as he feeds himself properly and he’ll definitely do that, won’t he? No no he won’t, at least not at the beginning, what were you expecting Jon Sims to properly take care of himself? When has he ever done that without being forced too? Any way he still looks mostly human, I mean he has more eyes then most but he tends to keep those closed or hidden, and his eyes are such a bright green that they almost look like they are glowing(they actually are), and if you look at his skin too closely you might notice black lines that almost look like a web of shattered china, but that’s fine. Also small green eye symbol float around him, most can’t see them all the time but they may catch glimpses of them out of the corner of their eyes. Tape recorders still follow him about they feel different now though, less like they’re from someone else and more like they’re from him.he is very much the ceaseless watchers special little boy, and it fucking shows, so much favoritism.

Martin Kartin Blackwood: he is an avatar of the lonely, like he is fully an avatar now. It’s fine everything is fine, he’s just choosing not to think about it for now, that will make it go away. Any way he’s pretty much how he was at the end of season 5 bit less stressed given that he’s not currently going through the apocalypse, but he’s definitely not forcing himself to act small anymore, he is actively choosing to take up space and stop putting up pretenses. He’s here an a new universe with his boyfriend and come he’ll or high water he is going to make the most of it.

Helen: she is alive because I miss her, also I think distortion door shenaniganery would be fun. Any way he just didn’t kill Helen this time that’s all, and given how little of the distortion is human, or really ever was, she got whisked away to somewhere else as well

Monster Pig: he is my baby and he is here if I say he is, I would kill for him so he is alive and well and freed from his concrete tomb. Anyway depending on if I make this au pre or post weirdmageddon his situation is a bit different, either he replaces waddles and is babyfied, or Mable finds him in the woods and befriends him and now he is waddles’ brother. Either way new pig friend for Mable, and my boy is thriving and being lavished with love(and maybe he occasionally just eats whatever problem they are dealing with, because he is a good pig 🐖)

Simon Fairchild: I know that in canon he is left behind but you can’t tell me that this 600 year old sky grandpa was human enough to be left behind, also as a vast aligned person I can’t leave my evil grandpa behind. He is here and he is having a blast just vibing and slowly adopting any vast avatars that show up to rebuild his family.

If y’all have any other characters I can add and good reasons for them to be able to show up, I will maybe add them

Next up will be some stuff about the gravity falls side of things and a definitive decision on weather or not this is set pre or post weirdmageddon

#tma #the magnus archives #tma podcast #jonathan sims #martin blackwood #helen distortion #monster pig #god i love this god damned monster pig #he is my little guy #simon fairchild #tma falls #tma au #gravity falls au #the tma characters that will be present #at least at the beginning #more may be added through shenaniganery

[mildcicada]

#when i was first coloring him in he was gonna be golden chinchilla colored but then i was like ehhh jonah magnus should be red/orange but #elias should be gray ...so i just desaturated what i already did instead of recoloring lol but #he is now supposed to be shaded silver lol #but thats why his coat pattern is on the darker side compared to what it *should* be #og elias bouchard coming from an important/roch family and while whole thing with thinking he just *deserves* stuff bc of his upbringing. #etc. -> he is purebred and matches the breed standards etc for a scottish fold of his color #obviously the eye color doesn't matter because. ahaha #i thought elias fit the Scottish fold vibes because: Scottish folds are known for looking sort of like owls and having intense eyes #and the cat body/face type (also present in british shorthairs) to me gives off sort of... unnasumming vibes? #like ahaha yes i am a boring boss who loves paperwork look at how unnasumming i am season 1-2 elias y'know #trying to think of what cat breed jonah would be. and also jon gerry etc you know all the other characters i like #would it be boring to have multiple british shorthairs #i mean.. #Michael shelley/distortion is a laperm that's all I know #i didn't particularly care with the personality attributes associated with eliascat because it didn't need to fit his personality on account #of not being his original body. but i do try to keep in mind the best personality/look/etc. cat attributes as a whole for a character #also sometimes get obsessed with jt making historical and geographical sense but then it just limits me greatly to a point im not into it #so i don't care about specific breeds in that respect lol #tma #my art #elias bouchard #the magnus archives #some notes looking back(made it 2 hours ago but still looking back ok..) on it now are that i feel like elias would never choose this breed #for his next bodyhop because of the inherent health issues in scottish folds. I saw the breed was created in like the early 1960s and #assumed that maybe the health issues wouldn't have been common knowledge until later enough for jonah to be unaware of them but actually no #there's legislation about it like 6 years later LOL so jonah would..maybe not make this choice #i guess in the future when drawing i will just make him a British shorthair #my catTMA is simultaneously 'they are just regular cats or like all show cats or something' and 'exact tma plot but as intelligent cats' #LOL its just vague in my mind idk..also maybe jon can be an Abyssinian #ALSO WHAT WAS I THINKING 'jonah may not have been aware about x thing' like did i...did i forget. me 2 hours ago was dumb as rocks

[salswisteria]

As a TMA and WTNV listener only, (so far at least.) Malevolent is giving me culture shocks rn holy shit.

#the magnus archives #the rusty quill #tma #welcome to nightvale #wtnv #night vale presents #malevolent podcast #this mysterious voice character is giving me heart palpitations.

[yellowocaballero]

No Name on the Bullet was so good (so good!), breath of fresh air the fandom needed! I know you don't have anything in the works atm, but do you think you might write more trigun fanfic in the future? I'd totally understand if not but I would be so excited to see what else you might come up with.

I am truly sorry about this one, but I think I've said what I wanted to say. There's definitely Trigun stuff I'd like to do - finish up this one short story, write canon!Vash to prove that I can - but for the most part I'm satisfied with the Trigun I've written. There's things to say about the themes and message of Trigun, and I said them in a way that satisfies me.

I know it's a small handful of people out there who are writing non-ship, long, and robust Trigun stories, so I am. Indeed very sorry about this. Sometimes I feel as if so many Trigun writers are so uninterested in Trigun itself. What I wrote had like 10% to actually do with Trigun so maybe I also fall under this umbrella but imho it's more important to keep the spirit than the shape.

Maybe when/if I finally get around to reading TriMax....?? But don't expect anything soon. An ORV fic is definitely next and baby if I don't pull out all of the stops on weirdness I am disrespecting ORV's considerable efforts towards being as weird as possible.

#ww is my favorite character in 98 and 98 vashwood is one of the most compelling character dynamics I've seen in anime #but. good god guys. #if you're going to write a story that's mostly vashwood then you have to actually pick up what makes it interesting #ergh sry for the constant vashwood negativity I really do swear that I found it ridiculously compelling #me during 98 like five times an episode: “those vashwood girlies have rights actually" #i just think being uninteresting is a crime. #“AO3 is full of weirdos” Then What Was With All The Safehouse Fics Huh #my asks #my writing #<- TMA fandom ptsd #i just need a good fucking orv idea because I have NONE nothing is good enough nothing would make a good enough story #everything i can think of is boring and insipid. it has to be insipid in an INTERESTING way come on #it has to be the most boring stereotypical thing presented freakishly come onnn I can't half-ass this

[cleocatrablossy]

Okay. So. Grain has a ring master skin?? Like… Y’know for a circus. It’s this:

And to anyone else who’s listened to TMA and is too far into the TMA/Hermitcraft AUs on ao3… he could make a very good(or at least decent) vaguely stranger-aligned character. Especially with how he’s ‘unknown’ as the man in the chicken costume even though it’s obvious who it is. I mean sure there’s watcher stuff which fits better with the eye, but characters in TMA can sorta be influenced by two entities at once right?? And he started out in minecraft(at least according to how EVO registered skins) as a just slightly-off Link mimic. Grumbot even could be pushed a little to fall in somewhat similarly to the mechanical Turk from 116.

Plus also depending on how you take him becoming a watcher it could even be more of a ‘not-them’ scenario(sorta like the hunger au’s[by definitelynotshouting] way of Grian becoming a watcher- but he’s just killed and replaced outright instead of it being a parasite) and he gets pretty into the theatrical elements of the life series.

Also just the general thing of void eyes and a soul-linked waffle head. And being a watcher but still acting as a player. Just being ever so slightly… off. And the waffle being connected to his being as seen with the whole Mumbo is a potato thing.

Plus since the stranger can dip into the spiral in the antics around it, it could fit with the Mooners and the door stealing(either as something to do with the overlap or due to the stranger and spiral not getting along) and maybe even the rift shenanigans

Like there’s more but it’s 3am so I’ll probably come back to this later

And there are also probably entities that fit him better but this would be fun

#grian minecraft #grian #it might be fun to like- have him as an antagonist in a TMA/HC au #either sorta haunting the narrative through statements that get increasingly close to present day sorta like pre-MAG 80 leitner?? #or an outright threat that keeps appearing like (the entity formerly known as)Jane Prentiss #or just a reoccurring statement character who does eventually show up to cause trouble #or even taking a role more similar to Micheal mostly being out of statements but coming in occasionally to story up trouble

[bluejayblueskies]

In ascending order

1. Tim. Was taking out anger better directed at Elias on Jon because he didn’t, you know, psychologically torture subordinates who got too uppity but ultimately had a very valid point about how Jon’s inhumanity made it difficult to trust him and his very continued existence causes other people to suffer also not obligated to forgive Jon for his shitty behavior in S2

2. Basira. Martin from someone else’s perspective, aggressively overlooking and excusing her partner’s crimes (despite said partner themselves not agreeing with that) to try and have their cake and eat it to.

3. Georgie. Establishes she is smart, levelheaded, and emotionally intelligent enough to deal with supernatural bullshit but then pulls a complete 180 in S4 and also has a massive double standard where she gives Melanie credit and support for wanting to get better but also punishes Jon by cutting him out of her life for *checks notes* being alive. She’s very frustrating but she does also own up to that and apologize and I will give her credit for that.

4. Melanie. Literally just wants to be mad at anyone but herself and refuses to acknowledge how her own choices got her into the mess she was in. She admits to Jon’s face that the bullet stayed in her because she wanted it and still continues to treat him like crap.

(i'm assuming this is in response to my 'i'm still mad about how people treated jon' post)

i do agree that tim doesn't owe jon forgiveness for the stalking, but i don't agree with the 'jon's continued existence causes people to suffer' part of this. i'll always be a believer in 'jon is allowed to be alive without being punished for it.' (i won't get into the inhumanity bit since i find that i define 'humanity' differently than other people, and i think what you're trying to say is that jon becoming spookier makes it hard for tim to trust him, which is something i would agree with.) i think a lot of tim's anger at jon comes from fear and feeling trapped rather than actual hatred towards jon, actually, but i don't feel much up to crafting an actual meta for that at the moment, sorry!

aside from the fact that i don't think daisy's crimes (hunting down and killing people for years as part of the police and engaging in police brutality) and jon's crimes (forcing people to relive their trauma against their will, but ultimately not killing them) are equitable, i don't think that martin actually excuses jon's actions. he's the one who gives the s4 archives crew the tape with jon's victim and thus makes jon stop taking live statements. martin supports jon in seasons 2 and 3 when he's being hurt and tortured and has few people in his corner, but he's also very ready to call jon out on his actions if need be. i don't think basira and martin are very similar at all.

i agree with most of this point! georgie's double standard in s4 is very frustrating, and she does recognize at least a bit in s5 that she wasn't the better person for just running away from it all.

any time i think about melanie, i just remember how everyone (including jon himself!) told her not to get involved with the institute but she did it anyway (very watcher-aligned of her). her arc is actually one of the most interesting to me bc of how much anger and the need to claw her way to the top motivates her, and i genuinely think that under different circumstances, she and jon might have been the kind of friends who rib each other constantly but would fight god for each other.

#ask #anon #forgive me if this is too argumentative i can't tell if you're agreeing with me or trying to present an argument against me #or something in between #but yeah the only side character i genuinely dislike is basira #the rest i find quite interesting even when i >:(( at how they treat jon sometimes #tma discourse #(i also did not write this up to be a very In Depth Well Thought Out Meta so keep that in mind! #i'm too sleepy for that haha)

[screechingsandwichhologram]

Just realized you like tma, that’s so cool! Who’s your favorite character?

YEAAH !! i've liked tma for like. two years ish now it's my fav podcast !!

also my favorite character is either helen distortion or mike crew , though i also really like sasha <33

#i have a 130+ slides presentation on which mcyt (mostly dsmp) character fits with which tma fear lmao #i haven't exactly figured out my favorite character :( #thanks for the ask !!!!

[mifithemuffin]

Do you like to do character analysis? Are there any characters you'd like to ramble about?

THANKS FOR INDULGING MEEE

I have such an intense brainrot about Daisy from TMA rn!!!! I'll try to not go too deep into specifics to avoid spoilers but

I'm so so weak for feral characters wallowing in their animalistic rage!!

when a complicated character is reduced to nothing but unapologetic bloodlust, when all they know is the thrill of the hunt. tearing someone else's throat using your teeth, being forced to lose your humanity and succumbing to something so familiar, so prominent in your veins that it feels like the second nature to you. or rather the only nature you really have.

Daisy tics all of the boxes for me: her wrath is ferocious, unrestrained, she uses some fucked up moral code to justify her killings but it doesn't cover her actions up, not in the slightest. I love seeing her elbow deep in someone else's guts, I love how she's going for the most brutal kills just because there's nothing gracious in The Hunt, nothing intricate or sophisticated. she inflicts as much pain as she can in the most inhumane ways possible just for the sake of it. she doesn't know any better. all her life she barely knew anything else.

I love the idea of the humans, at the very core, being mere animals!! just predators and prey, no other categories

also there's something about a woman not confirming to the societal standards and going rampant instead, fully expressing her rage when there are literal centuries of teaching us the opposite.

I love feral women covered in blood!!!! I support women's wrongs!!!!

#tma #the magnus archives #daisy tonner #a keen eye migh notice some serious overlaps with Zack #and you'll be right! a lot of the things i find enticing in Daisy are also present in Zack's character!! #that's why one of my main aod aus include wolf Zack lmao #but there's so many male characters with animalistic traits. it just doesn't hit the same. #and Daisy's character hits me like a ton of bricks #FERAL WOMEN ARE HOT OKAY #they're essentially free of any societal expectations and know perfectly well what they gotta do #i support confident women who can kill me #THANKS FOR THE ASK

[patronsaint-iscariot]

Sometimes I think about daisy tma fandomization and just seeth with rage

#putting this in the tags cause i dont want to be consise #and i dont trust myself to word this well #i just #the way the tma fandom interpreted her was such a thing #the fandom really looked at a character that #no.1 was in the police #no.2 was overly violent #no.3 had no canon description #and said yep thats a white butch lesbian #like there is no reason for that to be done except prejudice #like there is no reason for her to be butch/masculinely presenting #and also i may be wrong but im pretty sure theres actually nothing in canon about her liking women? #like i know she was shipped with basira alot but if im remembering correctly they were never canonically romantic #it just #ahhhhhhhhhh #heaven.rambles

[theleanbean]

My tma discourse is that I didn't care for Michael both as the Distortion and as his own character dude showed up for 5 seconds and then died Twice

My second tma discourse is that the Distortion isn't your friend and never was. By changing faces from Michael to Helen the Distortion was able to break down everyones walls into trusting it because no one trusted Michael. I wish that Helen Distortion had been given a chance to backstab the protagonists beyond saying that she would try to prevent Jon from stopping the protagonists and a single line from Melanie.

#tma #the magnus archives #I'd seen a lot of this Michael dude in fanart so I thought he would be a major character #but nope he's barely present #this might also be because I don’t like the Distortion in general and Michael is often used as a methods to woobifying it #while Helen gets assigned Girlboss #im trying not to turn this intoo my 5 paragraph essay breaking down the Distortion as a character #but the Distortion is a good character but fan content doesn't understand why thats the case

[new-hyperfixation-every-month]

not to be dramatic, but it physically hurts to know ill never be able to listen to the magnus archives for the first time again.

#i miss it #i miss freaking out over every detail #i miss the plot twists and the character development and the foreshadowing #its all still there. i can listen to it again and rant abt it all i want #but itll never be the same #ill never be able to sob over my favorite characters's deaths the way i did the first time #ill never be able to squeal at every interaction martin and jon have like i did the first time #i know im being rlly dramatic and its not that important but like #im happy i got to listen to it but im sad its over #like opening the last present on christmas day #youre thankful for the gift and will use it in the future #but part of the fun was the surprise #and that part is over #idk its bittersweet #tma #the magnus archives

[yaboyspodcastpalace]

"Canon elias is so much funnier than fandom elias" bro they're both boring. Elias is by far thee most boring character of the entire podcast

#like how do you make a character be present since the first episode and yet be so underwhelming and Nothing that i dont notice him til s3? #hes B O R I N G #the only times he's interesting is when he's right next to martin but other than that i hate him just by virtue of being dull as fuck #statement ends #sry having a hater moment #imagine you're me and you go from wolf359 to tma. underwhelming in every possible way ESPECIALLY in villains #except maybe prentiss cuz she's cool

[windmill-ghost]

Want to think of what to call the version of Jon in the AUpocalypse because he is also kind of a distinct thing. He has mannerisms and motivations distinct from the previous version.

#not dissimilar in presentation from Michael Shelley vs. MICHAEL #though the specifics and mechanics are quite different #wg speaks #AU!jon is too vague. beholding!jon tenchnically applies to the canon version #since fear!character normally just means ‘character as an avatar of this fear’ #tma AUpocalypse

[noahnopesbest]

A short guide to my favourite characters (please bear in mind that these are applicable to more than a single person)

Mildly (or not) deranged blond

✨Fabulous✨ hair

There’s no such thing as too tall™️

Older gentleman (and by ‘older’ I mean ‘in or around their forties’~ except in one specific instance where I actually mean like really old)

What the everloving fuck is wrong with you? (affectionate, but with the tiniest hint of exasperation)

Haven’t they been through enough bullshit already? Haven’t they?!

My father is a rat bastard

Pretty lady who could kill me without breaking a sweat

Intimidating murder machine vibes on the outside, big softie on the inside

Resident braincell owner

My feelings about you are conflicted (as in ‘for some reason I like you, but given half a chance to punch you in the throat I would take it in a fucking heartbeat’)

And then the extremely specific

Saw him and my brain went “this is a you problem now” (I’m looking at you, Present Mic)

Man after my own heart (Dino Nuggies X Drake)

And

Actual polar bear (I mean, this one is pretty much self explanatory, isn't it?)

#Noah loses their shit ‘cause fictional characters: the thrilling saga #Noah is still not over tma #Noah reads one piece #Noah started reading mha and it’s entirely Present Mic’s (and his stupid moustache’s) fault #like #I’m not joking #that is the honest to the gods reason

[thepunkmuppet]

the reason why transfem elias is my favourite theory for gwendolyn is because think about the implications.

so let’s say this alternate universe reveals that elias is actually transgender, and would present/identify as female if they had the opportunity to figure themself out and transition (elias was reportedly very young when jonah possessed them)

then the idea that in the tma universe they not only didn’t live long enough to do that, but THEIR BODY WAS TAKEN OVER BY SOMEONE ELSE WHO THEN PRESENTED IN A MASCULINE WAY AND LIVED AS A MAN USING THEIR FACE AND BODY FOR OVER TWENTY YEARS?!? FUCKING TERRIFYING

as a trans person myself, even though the real elias was dead the dysphoria that idea gives me is absolutely unreal, and really creeps into serious body/existential horror territory which i think would be really interesting and very in-character for a writer like jonny to explore.

#idk how they would explain her not being voiced by ben meredith but honestly it’s whatever i like this idea too much to think abt semantics #it’s just so horrible #the freaky friday trope was never something i could even entertain happening to myself #because someone else looking at my body!! and having control over it!! and potentially wearing feminine clothes and makeup and aaahhhhhh #i hate it #it’s a very interesting and nasty horror concept to me #transfem elias is real if this doesn’t turn out to be canon i will probably write it #the magnus archives #tma #the magnus protocol #tmagp #elias bouchard #gwendolyn bouchard #jonah magnus

[annabelle--cane]

Oh I envy those who were not there in the trenches for season 5. It was truly deranged. Every week, a deluge of posts explaining how Jonmartin was actually abusive/unhealthy- often alternating who was the supposed abuser. The discourse over Strung Out. And, of course, the ever present 'has the show gotten worse?'

Being around for season 5 was great. It was also awful.

EVERY WEEK. every week these are the posts I would see in the tag:

sooooo fucked up that jonmartin is lichrally abusive and you're all still stanning :/

this is thee worst domain we've had so far, how could jonny ever think it's okay to write horror with social commentary in his horror social commentary show?

haHA, this episode CONFIRMS that the web will have nothing to do with the finale and that the "alternate dimensions" theory is bogus and everyone who thinks otherwise is a dumb idiot

I love anthologies and hate meta plots. this is obviously an objective truth about art and not a personal taste thing. tma was only good for the first 21 episodes.

the characters were sad and mean in this one. doesn't anybody understand that if you write characters in fiction being sad and mean it means you think no one ever deserves to be happy in real life?? what the fuck???

I hate women so much it's unreal

#tma #answered #anons