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starry-bi-sky · 2 months

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i need to get this out of my head before i continue clone^2 but danny being the first batkid. Like, standard procedure stuff: his parents and sister die, danny ends up with Vlad Masters. He drags him along to stereotypical galas and stuff; Danny is not having a good time.

He ends up going to one of the Wayne Galas being hosted ever since elusive Bruce Wayne has returned to Gotham. Vlad is crowing about having this opportunity as he's been wanting to sink his claws into the company for a long while now. Danny is too busy grieving to care what he wants.

And like most Galas, once Vlad is done showing him off to the other socialites and the like, he disappears. Off to a dark corner, or to one of the many balconies; doesn't matter. There he runs into said star of the show, Bruce who is still young, has been Batman for at least a year at this point, but still getting used to all these damn people and socializing. He's stepped off to hide for a few minutes before stepping back into the shark tank.

And he runs into a kid with circles under his eyes and a dull gleam in them. Familiar, like looking into a mirror.

Danny tries to excuse himself, he hasn't stopped crying since his parents died and it's been months. He rubs his eyes and stands up, and stumbles over a half-hearted apology to Mister Wayne. Some of Vlad's etiquette lessons kicking in.

Bruce is awkward, but he softens. "That's alright, lad," he says, pulling up some of that Brucie Wayne confidence, "I was just coming out here to get some fresh air."

There's a little pressing; Bruce asks who he's here with, Danny says, voice quiet and grief-stricken, that he's with his godfather Vlad Masters. Bruce asks him if he knows where he is, and Danny tells him he does. Bruce offers to leave, Danny tells him to do whatever he wants.

It ends with Bruce staying, standing off to the side with Danny in silence. Neither of them say a word, and Danny eventually leaves first in that same silence.

Bruce looks into Vlad Masters after everything is over, his interest piqued. He finds news about him taking in Danny Fenton: he looks into Danny Fenton. He finds news articles about his parents' deaths, their occupations, everything he can get his hands on.

At the next gala, he sees Danny again. And he looks the same as ever: quiet like a ghost, just as pale, and full of grief. Bruce sits in silence with him again for nearly ten minutes before he strikes a conversation.

"Do you like to do anything?"

Nothing. Just silence.

Bruce isn't quite sure what to do: comfort is not his forte, and Danny doesn't know him. He's smart enough to know that. So he starts talking about other things; anything he can think of that Brucie Wayne might say, that also wasn't inappropriate for a kid to hear.

Danny says nothing the entire time, and is again the first to leave.

Bruce watches from a distance as he intercts with Vlad Masters; how Vlad Masters interacts with him. He doesn't like what he sees: Vlad Masters keeps a hand on Danny's shoulder like one would hold onto the collar of a dog. He parades him around like a trophy he won.

And there are moments, when someone gets too close or when someone tries to shake Danny's hand, of deep possessiveness that flints over Vlad Masters' eyes. Like a dragon guarding a horde.

He plays the act of doting godfather well: but Bruce knows a liar when he sees one. Like recognizes like.

Danny is dull-eyed and blank faced the entire time; he looks miserable.

So Bruce tries to host more parties; if only so that he can talk to Danny alone. Vlad seems all too happy to attend, toting Danny along like a ribbon, and on the dot every hour, Danny slips away to somewhere to hide. Bruce appears twenty minutes later.

"I was looking into your godfather's company," he says one night, trying to think of more things to say. Some nights all they do is sit in silence. "Some of my shareholders were thinking of partnering up--"

"Don't."

He stops. Danny hardly says a word to him, he doesn't even look at him -- he's sitting on the ground, his head in his knees. Like he's trying to hide from the world. But he's looking, blue eyes piercing up at Bruce.

Bruce tilts his head, practiced puppy-like. "Pardon?"

"Don't." Danny says, strongly. "Don't make any deals with Vlad."

It's the most words Danny's spoken to him, and there's a look in his eyes like a candle finding its spark. Something hard. Bruce presses further, "And why is that?"

The spark flutters, and flushes out. Danny blinks like he's coming out of a trance, and slumps back into himself. "Just don't."

Bruce stares at him, thoughtful, before looking away. "Alright. I won't."

And they fall back into silence.

Danny, when he leaves, turns to look at Bruce, "I mean it." He says; soft like he's telling a secret, "Don't make any deals with him. Don't be alone with him. Don't work with him."

He's scampered away before Bruce can question him further.

(He never planned on working with Vlad Masters and his company; he's done his research. He's seen the misfortune. But nothing ever leads back to him. There's no evidence of anything. But Danny knows something.)

At their next meeting, Danny starts the conversation. It's new, and it's welcomed. He says, cutting through their five minute quiet, that he likes stars. And he doesn't like that he can't see them in Gotham.

Bruce hums in interest, and Danny continues talking. It's as if floodgates had been opened, and as Bruce takes a sip of his wine, it tastes like victory.

("Tucker told me once--") ("Tucker?") ("Oh-- uh, one of my best friends. He's a tech geek. We haven't talked in a while.")

(Danny shut down in his grief -- his friends are worried, but can't reach him. When he goes back to the manor with Vlad, he fishes out his phone and sends them a message.)

(They are ecstatic to hear from him.)

It all culminates until one day, when Danny is leaving to go back inside, that Bruce speaks up. "You know," He says, leaning against the railing. "The manor has many rooms; plenty of space for a guest."

The implication there, hidden between the lines. And Danny is smart, he looks at Bruce with a sharp glean in his eyes, and he nods. "Good to know."

The next time they see each other, Danny has something in his hands. "Can you hold onto something for me?" He asks.

When Bruce agrees, Danny places a pearl into his palm. or, at least, it's something that looks like a pearl. Because it's cold to the touch; sinking into Bruce's white silk gloves with ease and shimmering like an opal. It moves a little as it settles into his hand, and the moves like its full of liquid.

Bruce has never seen anything like it before, but he does know this; it's not human. "What is it?" He asks, and Danny looks uncomfortable.

"I can't tell you that." He says, shifting on his foot like he's scared of someone seeing it. "But please be careful with it. Treat it like it's extremely fragile."

When Bruce gets home, he puts it in an empty ring box and hides the box in the cave. He tries researching into what it is. he can't find anything concrete.

Everything comes to a head one day when Danny appears at the manor's doorstep one evening, soaking wet in the rain, and bleeding from the side.

#dpxdc #dp x dc #danny fenton is not the ghost king #dpxdc crossover #dpdc #dp x dc crossover #dpxdc prompt #man i just really need more dpdc stuff where danny and bruce have a good relationship. like man i NEED it. like i need to see these two #bonding together. and not in a cracky 'oh danny is a distant friend/cousin/etc' stuff but like. active participants in each other's lives #or as active as can be in this case. i neeeeed these two getting along and caring about one another #this idea came to me like last night and hasn't left since nd it was driving me up the wall to think about both positively and negatively b #i neeeded someone to hear about this or i was gonna implode #danny is the first son #tried to just get the general gist of the idea down but i definitely thought of the idea that bruce lowkey suspects vlad for having a hand #Vlad allows Danny to sneak off because he thinks Danny is alone. if he knew Bruce was there he'd be piiisssed and would put a stop to it #Sam and Tucker are alive they just got ghosted for a bit by danny bc he was in Major Grief and didn't wanna socialize. He couldn't go to #them because he didn't wanna put them in danger via Vlad.#oh that thing he handed Bruce? Yeah that's his ghost core. I have a headcanon (that isnt always applied) that ghosts can take their cores #out of their bodies at will and painlessly and without issue. and its common practice actually to do so bc they can be a not insignificant #distance away from said core before problems start to act up. and its common for ghosts to leave their physical cores at their lairs for #safekeeping because as long as the physical core is fine: so is the ghost. they can reform if their body gets destroyed. it also acts as a #fast travel sometimes. where they can reform at their core in an instant. its not inspired in the slightest by SU but i do see the overlap #most cores are pretty small for safety sake: its harder to hit if its small. and they're pr resilient too but its better to be safe than #sorry. so yeah. danny essentially gave bruce the physical embodiment of his soul and indirectly said #'if anything happens to me at least i'll be safe with you'#danny doesn't know he's batman btw #starry rambles.#was gonna go into danny becoming a vigilante beside bruce but im sleeeepy so i'll do that in a reblog. he's gonna go by nightingale if #anyone is interested. stereotypical but to be frank it is a *good* name imo. has a good amount of syllables and consonants to it #and the bird theme. and since its part of an ancestral name it has even more backing for it being bird-y without being meta

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disruptivevoib · 1 month

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There are many silly little things about this piece. Exeggutor as a whole, for starters.

#chonny jash #chonnys charming chaos compendium #cj soul #fanvoids #technically pokemon but #I really did have fun with this piece..#man he really put lipstick and a blindfold on a tree and called it a day #did get worried I'd overworked it but nah I like it in the end #also mind and heart are on their ways. Whole too probably #Whole is not designed though. The other two have been designed for like 2 weeks same as Soul

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sunnydayaoe · 1 month

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okay . okay. I think I got designs. finally. [the last ones were kinda trash XP] these are kinda boring? stylisticly cus it's in my [get something done as fast as possible] but I think I got the concepts cute enough..

#cccc #chonny jash #chonny's charming chaos compendium #cccc soul #cccc heart #cccc mind #cj soul #cj heart #cj mind #mhs #mind is still my faverite I barely changed his design at all he's perfect as is #the other two.. man... heart is STILL fighting me I hate that guy what is he like that /silly #hardest to draw ever..#eyestrain #cw eyestrain #bright colors #cw bright colors #jbird's art

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jeeaark · 1 month

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final showdown pt2.

This was one of those battles where I survived it without a single reload. So. This entire scene? Accurate. Embarrassingly Accurate. (except the healy dealy. that's Greygold flair)

Wanted to get to the crown as fast as possible, but had to fly by Emps. Literally stopped next to bud to personally yell/reassure the fool I was gonna save their ass and then risked the opportunity attack.

(which. I forgot to bring my dex 18 gloves and discovered illithidism had shit dex, so....IS FINE. GG IS ALL FOR STARTING A NEW COLLECTION OF FRIENDSHIP SCARS)

BUT SQUID BUDDY MISSED. so. I like to think Enthralled Emps had put some effort into jumping through some rather large logic hoops to miss. Unlike Greygold who put JACK effort into dodging.

I originally intended to leave Emps completely alone, risk the attacks. But. Brain tentacle surprise happened. Right next to the squid. Emps rolled high in initiative.... But not as high as Lae'zel. Game-wise, ✨I panicked✨. Story-wise? I don't think this could have been any more in-character. Albeit, I found myself quadruple checking to make sure knockout mode was ABSOLUTELY on

#bg3 spoilers #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #the emperor bg3 #lae'zel #illithid tav #greygold #squid greygold #Man there's so many past comic refs I don't feel like linking hope you all are keeping up hUAR #If GG had known emps would be there they would not have worn that guardian armor but they are too stubborn to admit they whoopsied #I don't remember jack in the other timeline final battle (sadly) but this fight? forever burned into my soul. good drama yo.#I will never get over how Greygold use to have the AC of an Ancient Red Dragon and now they're AC is Squid Chum SQUID CHUM #GREYGOLD'S AIM IS SQUID CHUM TOO AUGH #As much as I keep ragging on Emps I love Lae'zel to death as well. knocked that squid out in one go to protect her squid-Joy ehuehuehueh #I can only imagine that she never thought she'd have to resist killing not one but -two- mindflayers for the sake of love....Love you babe~#CHARACTER GROWTH INDEED

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mikaikaika · 1 year

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Can't wait for Missa to come home to a deranged sugar baby trying to kidnap his husband, an adopted rockstar son, a new granddaughter to take care of, Quackity trying to live in their backyard to steal said granddaughter and the entirety of their lawn being turned into a giant ass potato farm.

#Oh his poor soul #He's not prepared for this #Can't wait till he goes like Chayanne! like he does and emerges not one but two eggs #And Chayanne going this is Tallulah my niece‚ her dad which is my brother is away on the world tour so we are taking care of her #And also quackity might try to kidnap her #Like #My man's not ready 😭#Oh I forget the non functioning fishing pond in his house #But nvm #Missa Sinfonia #Missa #Chayanne #Tallulah #Quackity #Philza #Q! Meme #Wilbur soot #Qsmp #Mika's billboard bangers

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zephyrine-gale · 2 years

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i binged everything jjk recently and i love these two sm

#jujutsu kaisen #jjk #yuta okkotsu #inumaki toge #inuokko #my art #also shoutout to nanamin i love him sm too #my favorite dad mans... hes so peak he is the moment he is a responsible adult he dont want over time what more can u ask for #adjkfjgh def love the 1st years but the 2nd years have my heart and soul i will die for them #i have been merch hunting for stuff of these two #and missed a really cute charm from one artist i followed #even tho i set a timer and everything #for the shop opening #it was gone by the time i was at check out i was so sadddhhfdhfdf #maybe its time to make my own inuokko merch........ i gotta do everything ymself if i want it adfghjghjh

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boiiiko · 6 months

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fyi the creator of blue eye samurai is a zionist. definitely shouldn't be supporting that.

I see people are making the rounds to stop the growing enthusiasm for the show. I get it.

Seeing Green's posts (via tumblr, since I don’t have twitter or X or wtv the fuck it’s called today) admittedly made me wince. I don’t agree with or support his views. I also feel their dissonance with the show’s blunt criticism of colonialism.

But.

This will be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t actually agree that condemning a show that has been made by a HUGE team of people, who are most certainly as diverse in their political beliefs as in their cultural backgrounds, because of one person’s few posts on social media is entirely fair or fitting.

Yes, he’s one of the creators, sure, his name is slapped onto the lid, but the show is not him. A show is never one person. AND I’m a Death of The Author believer besides, so. There’s that.

So I for one will keep on celebrating the show and what it stands for and the themes it explores, because I feel it’s important to have them out there. While also disagreeing with one of its creators’ views. After much thought, I’m comfortable with that complication. You, and many others, may not be. Which is fair. And I urge you to block the tag or unfollow me if the distinction makes you uneasy.

#i get the need to DO smth from a rather helpless position i do #but i don't think this is it #blue eye samurai #i grew up on buffy man i've learned a thing or two about show creators who don't practice what they preach #that feeling of betrayal #but also the realization that the show is made of all those beautiful beings that believed in it poured their souls into it #not that one white guy #who gets the credit for the whole thing #and then turns out to be a shitbag #also maybe we can stop guilt-tripping ppl for enjoying stuff??

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sysig · 5 months

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Well aren’t you so popular (Patreon)

#Doodles #Handplates #UT #Fellplates #Temmie #Gaster #Alphys #These were the original ideas I had in mind with the prompt of Temmie or Alphys btw lol #I just didn't have the time/practice/space to mess up and get everything done in time! Now though ♪#Man! I can't believe it's been this long to draw Alphys! I really like her!!#I might've drawn her initially when I first got into Undertale but that's been A Couple years now lol ♪ If I did it's been a good long while #Definitely out of practice - and same for Temmie - I think I did draw her but it's been such a long time!!#I might've pulled just a little bit of inspiration from Nny for Temmie's clothes lol - I was thinking of Tem Shop's Tem with the stripes so~#It's called a motif it's fine lol #But yes! That first one of him holding Temmie with his knees and poking her toe beans was my initial thought of those two haha #She's not Really fighting him that much - if she really wanted to leave it's not like he's restricting her movement lol just some wiggles #Making faces #And then he just lets her bite him lol - isn't he such a patient and kind soul! He's so nice and placid and peaceful :)#Just enjoys everyone's company so much no matter what they do to him ♪#Alphysssss <3 I had no ideas for how to differentiate her look other than the blank glasses look haha #Spooky! But other than that she's just her with different body language lol #I do like the image of her being all scary and intimidating meanwhile she's got a cute skirt on under her lab coat lol - it's cute ♪#What did Gaster do to garner such negative attention? :0 Went around picking up her anime figures lol #And then for funsies some classic Handplates!Alphys yaaaay <3 <3 <3 #Will I ever stop drawing his wings as actual feathery fluffy wings? But they're so cute!#Alphys clearly thinks so too lol - she would be all over a good twin/clone thing for Gaster haha #Gaster not so much lol #''Please Dr. Alphys have some dignity -.ó'' lol #And then since I'd been looking around the gallery and saw winged Alphys again I wanted to draw them together hehe <3 #Stretches! Wing yoga! Flapping at each other to cool down or just be silly hehe ♪♫ It's all very cute

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laurents-secret-diary · 5 months

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Can we see any of your drawings you may have had for the side characters please??? 👉👈

I only got a couple so far! I think I'm gonna do Nicaise next

#jokaste #aimeric #captive prince #kings rising #caprisun #can you believe damen fumbled a tall evil goddess? i would end myself #OKAY maybe he didnt “fumble” her. maybe it was the evil goddess part that ended it. but. but the loss is there ok. that shit would plague m #she is obviously sporting my headcanony akielon undercut like damen #but can you imagine going from this tall enchanting queen to. to looking down at a weird blue eyed frog with a stick up his ass #bi rights to damen but jesus christ my man #damen literally became the kinda guy that shows you a photo of his aint shit boyfriend on his iphone 5 while you're getting brunch together #and you have to say oh you two look so nice together. even though you cant believe he's letting that dude hit it.#like bro? you ever been to my garden? because i think you're dating one of my fucking gnomes #now onto aimeric.#he is my. he is my little tormented guy. manipulated to hell and back. abandoned. alone yet soulful and full of promise.#he schemes and pretends and KILLS A BUNCHA PEOPLE......#FUCKS UP JORD FOR LIFEEEEEEEEEE #AND THEN OLLIE OUTS OF EVERYONES LIVES DUE TO IMMEASURABLE GUILT #AND MAKES SURE TO DELIVER THE FINAL KAMEHAMEHA TO JORD WITH THAT LITTLE MESSAGE????#who does it like him #iconic. show stopping. mesmerising. he is the moment

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mrsoharaa · 26 days

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you didn't think too much into the simple graze of the newest spider-mans fingers gently brisking over yours as he takes his leave. the sweet, noble male that personally tended to you from your former strenuous, chaotic mission that led you to having a wounded leg. thus putting you right into the spider society's med bay.

you wave him off with a friendly smile, your eyes quickly sweeping over ever so attentively to the left to note Miguel's intent stare. pretty globes of soft cardinal leering behind the new, overly tending spider-man leaving the medical room you resided in. bearing directly into the back of the generous mans skull with such fueling rage and hatred.

his hardened glare sweeps back over to meet yours through the crystalline glass of the mirror into your medical room. thick brows that once tightened ever so firmly and searing wrath pooling into those glorious irises of pure ruby, immediately softening to your delicate gaze. a tinge of hurt and remorse instantly building up in the conflicted mans chest, immensely.

your heart flutters against your own, capturing the shorten, soften gaze of swarming distraught and longing clinging into those beautiful, intense eyes of his. your lush lips slowly part from each other, attempting to gather words to accumulate towards the man — but only failed, inescapably, when everything within you blared at you not to engage with him. not to engage with the very man that put you through with so much unbinding hurt and betrayal. the very same man that slowly, treacherously broke and tore you from piece by piece.

your pupils dilate, closing your agape lips promptly as your fingers crumble amongst the thin sheets of the medical beds bedding. you turn your head, shielding back the hot, thick tears swelling at the brims of your lashes. trying to not crumble before the very man that you inevitably fell in love with, during your previous time together (during your little "stress distressing" lascivious sessions).

the very same man that slowly, treacherously broke and tore you from piece by piece. promises of unfulfilled, unattainable pledges of comforting enlightenment and console, crumbling with the shattered fragments of your broken heart.

#idk what this is but i couldn't stop thinking about it for the past two hours lol #needed some angst to woo my crippled soul </3 #GOD i can vividly imagine the absolute pain and anguish on that poor mans face! (and yours obviously!) 😭💔#kinda hurt to write this one tbh lmao...but that was the point haha :''3 #sorryyyy!! i really love this idea/concept! I need to look more into it!!#YOU BOTH DON'T DESERVE THIS BUT I CAN'T HELP IT!! 😭❤️‍🩹#miguel o'hara x reader #miguel o'hara #atsv

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idk-bruh-20 · 1 year

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Irondad fic ideas #129

In an AU where everything is the same except Tony survived the snap in Endgame, MJ and Ned are both very aware that something is up with their memories. Huge, overlapping chunks of their lives are gone. And Spider-Man has something to do with it.

The only public figure Spider-Man has ever been closely associated with is Tony Stark. In need of answers, and not the types to just let something like this go, the kids hack and heist their way somehow onto Tony Stark's secret lake house property. It's weird that no alarms go off when they get close, but they manage it. They're about to knock, when Tony Stark, savior of the universe, opens the door.

He does not look great. Aside from the general post-battle healing and the fact that they have literally caught him at home, there's just something...off. It doesn't take long for them to realize that it's the same thing that's off with them, too.

Something important has been taken from all of their lives. Someone.

After Tony calms down from his initial freak-out, MJ and Ned (though mostly MJ) manage to convince him pretty quickly. The fact that FRIDAY never alarmed because they're in her system already is a huge point to their side.

And, the fact that he agrees with them. He survived the battle, everything should be fine. But something is so, very wrong. He's grieving someone he doesn't even know.

So, a new team is born. A trio united to find their shared missing person, the eraser mark in their memories none of them can bear to lose, all for different reasons.

They don't have much to go on, but Tony agrees with them on one thing: Spider-Man is involved somehow. And that's a good place to start.

#irondad fic ideas #banging pots and pans: hurt/COMFORT fic hurt/COMFORT fic dON'T FORGET THE COMFORT #peter needs hugs in so many different categories #best friend hugs gf hugs and dad hugs are literally the bare minimum required for my soul #irondad and spiderson #nwh fix-it #peter parker #tony stark #michelle jones #ned leeds #spideychelle #ironfam #just imagine that ned and mj rock up to the stark cabin during their winter break #like they tell their families they're going camping or smth and end up spending an entire two weeks of frantic holidays w The Stark Family #even better when they all get their memories back and that family is finally COMPLETE #and then when it's time to go back to the city #ned is just like:#flash will NEVER believe us #irondad fic idea #spider-man no way home #additional clues that mj happens to notice in Tony Stark's house:#a teenage boy's BEDROOM. a desk in stark's private lab labeled The Kid's.#btw tony & mj are two sides of the same fake stone cold bitch #if either of them were going to crack open the emotions in front of strangers those strangers would be each other #just something to think about #tony: you loved him. the person we're looking for is your boyfriend #mj: the person we're looking for is your son #queueueueue

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rogueddie · 1 year

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I'm gonna need people to stop asking the cast about B*lly because I am convinced that most of them haven't actually watched the show so they just think of Dacre and end up saying something nice. I am sick of it.

Joe Quinn saying Eddie and B*lly would be friends, Joe Keery saying B*lly redeemed himself in season 3; either y'all didn't watch the show or you don't have a single critical thought in your empty heads.

#stranger things #anti b*lly hargrove #and don't get me wrong #I love the joes with my whole entire heart. my faves. my beloveds.#that's why I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. to be nice.#thinking about the b*lly fans following me and just...#you can't get mad at me for hating on him like once every two months because I have so much rage in my soul for that man #I am being nice.#this is me being nice.#holding my tongue.

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k-kroomie · 10 months

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Doodle me a Heart ♡

By. Niko and Sunnie♡(or Margo if you're from Discord)

[very short]

A Punkflower one-shot based of my headcannon:

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Enjoy the cuteness of my favorite people♡♡♡

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Miles was doing his math homework at his desk while his boyfriend laid out on his bed with one of his sketchbooks and some of his markers.

"Hey, luv, what ya, think 'bout a dog with 3 eyes in ya art book?" Hobie asked, making Miles look over at him. "Hm, I wouldn't mind. You just draw whatever you want, Hobie. I'll either add to the page or leave it alone," Miles said with a smile as he turned back to his homework.

Hobie smiled and looked down at the sketchbook page, "Alright thank ya, sunflower." He said before flipping to the first page and seeing a self-portrait that Miles drew of himself. That's when he got to work, draw on the white spaces of the page, and he never drew the same thing twice. He smiled at his little doodles before flipping to an empty page and drew out a picture of him and Miles.

Time skip♡

"I'm sorry we didn't get to spend a lot of time together Hobie, this vision work is sumping me." Miles said as he watched hobie slip his boots on, "It's fine sunflower," Hobie said, sliding his mask over his hair and eyes. "I love just being around you." Hobie said before kissing Miles forehead and climbing out his window. Miles smiled before shutting his window and walking over to his bed where his sketchbook and markers sag.

Miles picked up his sketchbook about to lay it on his desk when he saw the drawing of two stick people in the middle of a page with a heart in the middle of them at the bottom of the page it said, "A punks flower" Miles smiled at the page before picking up his pencil and a few markers. He then began to sketch out the faces of both him and Hobie. Keeping a distance between his sketch and his boyfriends art, not wanting to ruin Hobie's art.

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