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blueteller · 1 year
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So, Let's Talk Themes in TCF!
"Themes" is such a weird topic for me, not gonna lie... I always feel like it's something you're just supposed to know and feel instinctually – like rhythm in dancing. Which, btw, I'm not really good at. So it's difficult to talk about without that background anxiety that I'll totally flop and miss the point, despite my best intentions.
Still, I decided to give it my best shot anyway, and try to decide what "themes" there are in "Trash/Lout of the Count's Family", and why I like them, because that part is subjective and thankfully, I can decide without freaking out over the "correct" answer.
First, let me make one thing clear: I don't believe TCF was written to convey a single theme or idea. It's an adventure story, and it's supposed to be pure fun. Which it is!! But nevertheless, there is a lot of effort and thought behind it, and I believe that thoughtfulness from the author manifests itself clearly in the overall work, so it's definitely worth talking about.
Now, with that lengthy explanation of what I'm going for out of the way: what are the themes in TCF that I noticed (and like)?
Found Family
Beloved Hypocritical Hero
Overcoming Prejudice
Victory in Working Together
What makes Humanity, what makes a Monster
Healing and Moving Forward
Misunderstandings
Found Family is the most obvious theme, overall, so I don't think it requires much explanation. Cale doesn't "find" his new family on purpose as much and trips all over them, on total accident – then proceeds to adopt them all, despite his inner monologue telling the readers over and over that he intends no such thing. It's pure comedy, but it's also incredibly wholesome and heartwarming. Cale has the biggest, softest heart of them all, and he's the only one who doesn't see it. I wanna squish his cheeks and coo over how cute he is most of the time.
Beloved Hypocritical Hero is the second theme, which isn't apparent at the start. Cale's biased inner monologue does his best to convince us that he's totally selfish, and doesn't intend to be a paragon protagonists who selflessly helps others in the slightest! ...However, over the course of the story it becomes clear that Cale is one, big, fat, liar. He is exactly the sort of hero he constantly denies he is. His whole spitting-blood-from-power-overuse act practically became a meme at this point. Still, despite how frustrating Cale's blatant hypocrisy is, we can't help but love him all the more for it. I'd like to say that he gets better overtime, but.... yeah, personally, I don't see much progress on that front. He did promise Raon he won't get hurt one time, and he managed to keep that promise, but then he (spoiler alert) went ahead and stabbed himself right after, so. Yeah. Cale is a hero and a hypocrite and we all love him. That's definitely a major theme in the story.
Overcoming Prejudice is the best way I found to describe the whole plot of "anti-darkness attribute" propaganda in TCF. What I love about it is that the author found a much more interesting way to convey the theme than just make it about "fantasy racism". It isn't just about the Dark Elves, it's about Necromancers too, and all people using dead mana. The best part is that dead mana is, in fact, used by the very higher-ups who spread the prejudice in the first place, proving without a doubt that it's all 100% hypocrisy and there is nothing wrong with dead mana in the first place. It's all propaganda, and it serves a purpose. The true beauty of this plot unfolds when the Sun Twins show up, and Cale brings in Mary to help Hannah with her dead mana poisoning. Jack goes through an entire arc of realizing what "true light" is, and that despite the "voice of the Sun God" constantly ringing in his ears to eradicate all darkness, he comes to his own conclusion that it isn't what the power is, it's about what ones does with the power. It's just, beautiful. I feel like that part of the story doesn't get enough credit. Mary is one of my favorite characters, and Jack and Hannah combo is amazing as well. Definitely one of my favorite plotlines in TCF.
Victory in Working Together is another obvious theme throughout the story. It isn't just reserved for the good guys, either: the bad guys have a ton of alliances, too. The difference is that the good side is based on genuine intent, without stabbing each other in the backs, while the bad guys only pretend as long as they need to, then throw away their "allies" to the wolves when it's convenient. It's portrayed less as a "message" and more of a purely pragmatic fact: to get anywhere, you need to have support. Cale knows this from the start, which is why he manages to make so many allies in such a short time. This theme is simply about being able to overcome the biggest of obstacles, as long as you honestly work together with others and put all your effort into it. It is the simplicity of it makes it so effective, in my opinion.
What makes Humanity, what makes a Monster is an interesting one for sure. In a world full of so many interesting races, the final boss is – always – human. Be it Venion Stan, Redika, Prince Adin, Queen Elisneh, the White Star, or even the Sealed God – all of the main villains are either purely human or started off that way. I think it's very much deliberate, in order to show how what makes these people evil isn't some in-born characteristic; but only their choices. Not to say that non-human characters aren't ever bad, of course not – there is a bunch of evil non-human characters all over the story. But evil, true evil, is always a choice. And thus, non-human characters who choose good are more "human" than the "monsters wearing human skins". I won't call it an allegory, because it isn't even as indirect as that: it's a fundamental truth of life that the only real monsters are people who are rotten on the inside. And since the author put so much effort to make all the fantasy races in TCF feel very much human-like, it only makes sense that their choices is the thing that makes them evil, not their race. Even actual Monsters aren't all pure evil in TCF! I truly appreciate it. It's such a simple concept, but it works extremely well.
Healing and Moving Forward is one of the themes which honestly melts my heart. It doesn't simply apply to Cale; it applies to everyone in the cast. Everyone in Cale's group comes in damaged, scarred, hurt or threatened in some way, and comes out better in the end. From the children, to the adults, the entire group heals through their "Found Family" and their quest to defeat the evil forces threatening their world, in order to achieve a peaceful, happy future. Every time we see the evidence of it – like Cale admitting his life is precious, Eruhaben agreeing to extend his life, Choi Han attribute changing, and so on – it feels like an amazing triumph, and yet completely natural and earned. One could simply call it "good character development" and move on, but I see a commond trend and it deserves to make itself a theme of its own. It's not just about everybody finding their place in the family: it's about them growing as family. And doing so, despite their traumatic pasts. And since I once called Cale a "poster child of trauma", it's no wonder he's the one who has the most of "healing" and "moving forward" to do of them all. I hope it continues all throughout book 2!
And of course, I saved Misunderstandings for last. I think the name speaks for itself. TCF is practically a comedy built upon misunderstandings; except misunderstandings of the BEST kind. The misunderstandings where people look upon Cale – tired, in-denial, clueless Cale – and see whatever they need to see the most in the moment: a saviour, an inspiration, a leader, a friend, a parent, and so on. Many misunderstandings result in people seeing Cale in too-good-to-be-true light, which is always funny (Clopeh instantly comes to mind). The thing is: Cale deserves most of it, even if he doesn't believe so. Because it's not about what Cale actually is that matters in those situations: it's about what others need. Cale inspires just by being, well, himself. And that inspiration is what changes people. It's Cale doing his best and affecting others, that makes all the huge waves of change. In my opinion, there is no better misunderstanding than one which results in inspiration: because even if "truth" was revealed later on, the effects of it were 100% real, and something to be grateful for. Imagine if you had a terrible day, and you suddenly saw someone smile at you, and you felt better. Even if the person wasn't actually looking at you in that moment – that doesn't matter!! What matters to you is that your day DID get better, and that person was to thank for! That's the beauty of TCF's misunderstandings. Cale will never truly comprehend the gratefulness of others, without understanding how he can affect them without even trying. ...Then again, his obliviousness and hypocrisy is one of the many reasons why we love him 😊
Let me know if there are other themes in TCF you like!
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murasaki-cha · 6 months
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Dude I miss so many characters who haven't appeared yet
I miss Bud and Glenn
I miss Hanna and Jack
I miss Cage and Taylor
I miss THE FREAKING WIND ELEMENTALS!! WHERE ARE THE WIND ELEMENTALS!!? CHAOS AND DESTRUCTION!!!
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unparalleledtrash · 2 years
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Y'know how in LCF/TCF fanfics, Cale is always described as beautiful and handsome – causing him to unintentionally form a harem where all races simp for him (especially Alberu and Choi Han).
My ✨headcanon✨ is now how Cale has this ethereal beauty because of his ancient powers. I say this because we all know that elves and dragons are characterized to be very beautiful, right? Dragons, especially, as they even make the whale tribe look like squids. And these races are close to nature... Now, who is the human closest to nature? CALE-motherf****ing-HENITUSE with his TOO MANY TO COUNT ANCIENT POWERS. I also think Vitality of the Heart contributed a lot to this. I personally think a healthy person is a pretty person.
Long story short: Cale Henituse can take my soul away if he'd like. I am weak against a pretty face (Don't judge me)
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pprj-28 · 1 year
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Oblivious Cale's Suitors
Trash of the Count's Family
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melinae · 2 years
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runahades · 5 months
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"Elegance is the beauty never fades."
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crazydaymycrazyway · 1 month
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If Rosalyn and Choi Han got married
Jack, as the wedding officiant: Now, repeat after me
Choi Han, sweating nervously: After me
Jack: ....
Eruhaben, using telepathy to talk to Rosalyn: Are you sure this is the one you want?
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wandering-tides · 3 months
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Hannah, Hannah, Hannah.... don't get me wrong, I absolutely love you but like,,,
Is it just me or does she resemble that bastard Venion Stan? 😭
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sourrattree · 1 year
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need more ppl to hear me out on rosalyn x hannah... 
its literally the best flavor of enemies to lovers, the tension they were having while fighting w the whales, its just so hsashdgfygfg they are so chaotic!good x chaotic!neutral
i can totally see ppl generally assuming rosalyn is like the more sane, leash on hannahs craziness but NO she’s 10x crazier, just more elegant
Hannah: Let’s slice them apart and bathe in their blood!
Rosalyn: No need darling, let’s just explode them.
*cue mana and aura explosion noises*
Cale: shivers
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kiwipyon · 1 year
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[skipping stones on a lake]
Priest Jack, smiling: 𝘐𝘵'𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘢 𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨.
Hannah, whispering: 𝘛𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘢𝘬𝘦.
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bloustorm · 2 years
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Kiss kiss kiss /j
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We've seen Cale age regression in fanfics now I want Rosalyn, and the Sun Twins age regression.
Can someone write this please?
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murasaki-cha · 2 years
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I keep mistaking Jesse from WTTWSB with Jack from TCF every time when I see his fanart! If it weren’t for the eyes they would look identical
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unparalleledtrash · 9 months
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💎Seventeen as TCF/LCF characters [Masterlist]
Some comparisons are based on appearance, some based on personality, and some based on their dynamics with certain members/characters. Also, some characters are interchangeable with each member. Btw, this goes without saying but these are just my opinion.
Choi Seungcheol as Choi Han
Yoon Jeonghan as Cale Henituse
Hong Jisoo as Taylor Stan
Moon Junhui as Clopeh Sekka
Kwon Soonyoung as Bud Illis
Jeon Wonwoo as Beacrox Molan
Lee Jihoon as Glenn Poeff
Lee Seokmin as Saint Jack
Kim Mingyu as Alberu
Xu Minghao as Fredo von Ejellan
Boo Seungkwan as Archie
Chwe Hansol as Paseton
Lee Chan as Lock
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ayowuzap · 2 years
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Yes i was rereading and reached at around 756 now while making the chapters for part two pile up since last last month fuck everything
Bg: Cale suddenly got transported to the sealed god's "tests" in the temple because of something idk and that was somehow the god of death's fault so now he"s trying to fix shit up. This particular scenario that i thought of around 1 - 2am that hasn't stop haunting me was the Wrtah Test. (I finished the scrap thingamajig at around 2:30 just in case ya'll wanna know don't judge me please)
Ps. I tried to stay loyal to the novel's/author's way of writing so i appologize in advance if its wonky don't also @ me with the grammer since like i said its fuckibg 2am help me
"Jack, Mary and Bud Illis."
Their eyes widened as Cale mentioned their names that they couldn't utter out loud  before.
It was understandable. They were gone after all.
"Those three are doing well."
However what the Cale whom they didn't know very well and had complete balance because he had the wood ancient power said the complete opposite.
"What..."
Hannah mumbled out subconsciously, completely flabbergasted as she heard her dead brother's name and being mentioned as if he was alive.
No, as if he didn't become a sacrifice in the first place.
"You- You aren't lying are you?"
"No. I have no reason to lie about something like this."
Hannah could not help but be doubful. However, Cale understood her feelings.
"That's great."
Tasha commented in a sorrowful yet joyful voice.
"That's really, really great."
Tasha smiled sadly as she gently closed her eyes shut as if satisfied.
"Mm."
Glenn Poeff whom Cale had known as one of the people who was a survivor of Poeff Household and the Assasins Housholds, and most importantly as Bud's ally and companion, hummed and clenched his fists.
Cale looked at them tiredly and looked at the ceiling while still holding the paper Cage gave him earlier and while still stepping on the God of Death's divine book.
Cale then spoke.
"Mourn."
They flinched as their eyes shook violently at the unexpected yet expected response.
"Remember, let go then mourn."
Cale said his thoughts out loud.
He could not help it.
He had lost many people in the past as Kim Rok Soo and had become quite familiar with the feeling of sadness and mourned, albeit very late.
"If you still can't accept it yet. Mourn some more. If you can't anymore or don't want to, that's fine too. No one will rush you nor judge you."
"They'll understand too."
Tasha's face had become blank as Hannah's expression broke and Glenn brought his clenched fists towards his mouth, shutting his eyes to orevent himself from tearing up.
"And well, I..."
Cale theb turned his toward them with a sorrowful, understanding expression yet with a bright, satisfied smile.
"I may or may not have learnt this the hard way."
He smiled even more as he remembered his conversations with the other Lee Soo Hyuk and Choi Jung Soo that he met in the other "test" and his conversation with the team leader he knew when he was going to give him his Embrace ability.
However, the others saw this both correctly and incorrectly.
He looked as if he had gone a lot through- (leaving this blank for now)
--- (leaving this blank for now)
"Mary..."
"Oppa...!"
"Ugh."
Hannah wailed, holding onto the robe she's wearing that is originally her brother's robe that he had always wore before he died, as Tasha fell down to her knees and sobbed and cradled her face while Glenn clenched his eyes shut even more as he bit his lip until it bled and...
They mourned.
Imma edit this later but for now imma cry myself to sleep gunayt-
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teriri-sayes · 1 month
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TCF Modern AU Character Checklist (Official)
RIDI, one of the Korean publishers of TCF/LCF, recently released new ebook volumes for TCF. The volume set consisted of volumes 10-18, spanning chapters 201-398 of Part 1. And RIDI added a "Character Checklist" as the exclusive bonus content for buying the volume set.
What is this character checklist about? It's just a list of things that the characters are most likely to do or prefer. But it is set in a modern AU (alternate universe) setting.
Those who want to purchase official merchandise can head over to RIDI to buy the new ebooks. You can get a 10% discount and a 5000 won coupon if you participate in the event, so the cost for the new volume set will only be 24,160 won. But be aware that this is only in the Korean language. There is no official English ebook for TCF. 🥲
The new ebooks included new novel covers. For volumes 1 - 9, they changed the ebook cover to this:
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And for volumes 10-18, the new ebook cover is this:
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Because the character checklist is not publicly available for free, I will only post a quick summary of it.
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Alberu 
likes to eat snacks while working
beautiful handwriting
celebrates others' birthdays grandly
frequent social media poster because of work
Beacrox 
makes tteok-galbi and gives it to Cale
2nd best at making snow ducks
Ron
makes travel plans because of the kids
good at claw machines
Bud 
world traveler who's good at driving any vehicle
frequent social media poster because he's an attention-seeker
Hilsman 
scared of bugs
Witira 
heavy drinker
troublemaker child because she couldn't control her strength
Eruhaben 
good singer of old songs but only does it upon the kids' request
picky appetite
doesn't use kiosks because he's not interested in learning anything new
On
great dancer
makes travel plans
knows the most about memes
Hong
makes travel plans
likes winter because of family get-togethers
frequent social media poster because he finds it exciting
good at drawing because everyone praised their drawings
posts memes
Raon
makes travel plans
prefers to play together than go on amusement park rides
likes winter because of family get-togethers
late sleeper because he always daydreams of going on trips with his family
good at drawing because everyone praised their drawings
Choi Han
stiff dancer
secretly prefers thrills in the amusement park
good at making snow ducks
student with low grades
Deruth
believes in fortune telling stuff but is in denial over it
Cale
somehow ends up as the leader in team projects
celebrates others' birthdays secretly
best fit as the leader of a K-pop boy group
buys lots of online books to read when he achieves slacker life
heavy reader
drinks hot Americano because Ron says cold drinks is bad for him
Mary
likes spicy food
likes horror movies
good at computers because Tasha taught her
Lock
first to apologize after getting into a fight
model student with good grades
Tasha
loves to eat meat
Archie
always grumbles on trips but shuts up when Cale stares at him
Toonka
bad at using machines and gadgets
Cage
prefers eating over studying
Rosalyn
drinks iced Americano in the morning
troublemaker child because she wanted to do lots of things
Jack
likes pineapple pizza
Hannah
likes mint chocolate and eats it together with Mary
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Some trivia:
Mint chocolate in Korea is similar to pineapple pizza that people either heavily like or dislike.
Witira being a heavy drinker is a pun related to her race as a whale tribe. Sulgorae (술고래) is a figurative expression for a heavy drinker. It’s a combination of the words 술 (alcohol) and 고래 (whale). English has a similar expression to it - drink like a fish
Making snow ducks is a trend in Korea. They use plastic tongs with a duck mold to create snow ducks. Some treat is a game where you make dozens of it fast as if printing out items in a factory, and line it up in a row.
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Tteok-galbi is grilled short rib patties. Hmm, delicious~! 😋
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