#spn byzantium

[shallowseeker]

Very very VERY Random thoughts from watching Remember the Titans 8x16:

Prometheus is a great big fun mashup of the "GOOD, REBELLIOUS SON," "SACRIFICIAL SON," "FIRE/AMBER/ENDURANCE," and "RIVAL SON-GOD," "HELPER OF HUMANITY" motif.

See: Sam, Cas, Mary, Lucifer, Cas, Benny, etc (even Chuck, with his little divinity-human hair/looks/hoodie). But it's Cas who has arguably acted on behalf of humanity the most at this point.

Aside// Prometheus is also like Gabriel, who laments his "constant running" and boldly proclaims in AU Earth/Apocalypse Earth , "I'm not going to run anymore," then dies.

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But at the end of the episode when Prometheus's burning. Oh, when he's burning. There's so much that minds me of Castiel's funeral in 13x01 Lost and Found.

Dean comforts the mother at the fire:

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And we also get the parallel sons heart-to-heart mashup:

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BONUS stuff:

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Later in 8x16, when Prometheus's son speaks, he's robotic, almost otherworldly. Very Jack-like in addition to a mute/child Dean motif.

The boy is like Jack. He's also like Dean, rendered temporarily mute by the trauma of his destiny. He becomes "the one who stays."

// SAM: "Bobby, Rufus, now Prometheus. You think any of them chose death? No. The life chose for them."

Dean is like Hayley, wants the one he's caretaker of (Sam) to BE NORMAL, to be free. To die of something "normal," not "on the mountain," as Zeus gleefully crows, in the cycle inherited by the fathers.

He wants Sam to NOT inherit from the father figures Sam invoked above (Bobby, Rufus, Prometheus.)

Aside//I find it interesting that Bobby nor Dean could kill Sam directly. So, narratively, the Cause takes on the role of "son sacrifice," enticing Sam to sacrifice himself (notably in season 5's Swan Song) and also in this season 8 with the Hell Trials.

I think it's interesting that Jack's journey mirrors this in season 15. His surrogate father does not kill him, so the Cause tells him he must become a bomb for the good of the world.

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8x16: At the end of the episode, Dean prays to Cas, the idealized "Zeus" figure, the one he trusts. It's a source of support he's always looking for:

I also wanna capture some linguistic similarities to Zeus and The Shadow, but I ran out of images!

#spn remember the titans #spn zeus #spn 8x16 #spn 13x01 #spn unhuman nature #spn byzantium #add tags later #freeform meta

[keistance]

me and the gang after seeing spn 14x08

#spn #supernatural #dean winchester #sam winchester #castiel #jack kline #my property #spn season 14 #spn 14x08 #team free will #tfw 2.0 #team free will 2.0 #memes #spn byzantium #lily sunder

[shallowstories]

The twelve days game

Cas rolls to the side, props himself up on one elbow, and squints down at him. Dean kind of wants to sock him between the eyes with the end of the TV remote. Dean grumbles under his breath, “You did that on purpose.” Leave it to Cas to pick the worst ways to be playful, or just do something that’s plain I’m your huckleberry level of awkward-slash-bizarre. Next comes the Cas-sass: “Perhaps it’s my ‘revenge’ for the loud noise you made when I went to turn off your movie.” Okay, if they hadn’t eaten all the popcorn already, Cas would definitely be getting a fistful of popcorn in his face right now. “Hyuk, hyuk. Hilarious, Pal. Oh, and fuck you.”

The twelve days game by @shallowseeker

Synopsis: On the first day of December, Dean finds a postcard of a partridge in friggin’ pear tree taped to the screen of his laptop. There’s no note—no writing. It’s just there.

(On the first day of Christmas, Dean receives a gift. On the second day, another...)

(Status: Complete)

#shallowseeker fics #dean/cas #dean/cas + bittersweet #cas + pulling away due to the empty deal #cas + the empty deal #holidays #the twelve days game #jack & sam & dean & cas #tfw + holidays #tfw + christmas #spn 12x09 #spn the spear #spn 12x08 #spn byzantium #destiel fics #new formatting

[littlebluejaydraws]

You know, in all my thousands of years, what happened to Jimmy Novak and his family- it's my greatest regret.

ID: Three digital drawings showing scenes for episodes 4.20 and 14.08 of Supernatural. The first drawing is a close up of Jimmy, slumped down and looking upwards with blood in his mouth. There is text over the drawing reading: "Me, just take me. Take me, please.". The second drawing shows Jimmy with his face tilted up while Cas repossesses him in 4.20 and Jack, also with his face tilted up, while Cas heals him in 14x08. In both cases, Cas is cupping their faces, which are lit up with light. The third drawing shows Cas, expression upset as he looks to the right. There is text reading: "Take me. Take me in his stead. Take me.". End ID.

#cas #castiel #jimmy novak #jack kline #claire novak #supernatural #spn #spn 4x20 #spn 14x08 #the rapture #byzantium #my continuing obsession with 4.20 #especially that shot of jimmy #also i really dislike all of cas and nicks conversations in 14.02 however i am willing to take the quote for my own purposes

[soullessjack]

hey girls I’m going fucking insane

#I am weeping and wailing and sobbing and crying and killing myself and throwing up #and then I’m going to work #spn #supernatural #spn parallels #spn 14x07 #spn 14x08 #unhuman nature #byzantium #jack kline #dean winchester #kelly kline #dean&jack #dean is jack’s dad #jack and kelly #the cradling … Oh nobody touch me .. the gentle cradling #puking #they are family and they are so special to me and nobody understands them the right way

[iightbringer]

#supernatural #spn #supernatural text post #spn text post #dean winchester #castiel #destiel #episode: byzantium #text posts found on pinterest

[winchestress]

#supernatural #dean winchester #castiel #sam winchester #spn rewatch #14x08 #byzantium

[youchangedmedestiel]

Chapters: 1/1

Fandom: Supernatural (TV 2005)

Rating: General Audiences

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Words: 1,650

Relationships: Castiel/Dean Winchester

Characters: Castiel (Supernatural), Dean Winchester

Additional Tags: Episode Tag: s14e08 Byzantium, Canon Universe, Implied/Referenced Character Death, Like Jack is still dead but we know he comes back later, Grieving Dean Winchester, Grieving Castiel (Supernatural), Dean Winchester Needs a Hug, Castiel Needs a Hug (Supernatural), Everyone Needs A Hug, Dean Winchester Needs Castiel, Castiel Loves Dean Winchester, First Kiss, Kissing, Boys Kissing, Fluff, Literal Sleeping Together, Hopeful Ending

Summary:

Jack just died. Sam leaves the kitchen first after their drinking session to mourn Jack together as a family, leaving Dean and Cas alone. They drink a little bit more, just the two of them. Then Cas decides to leave the kitchen, but Dean calls him once he is in the hallway. So he turns around and comes back to Dean.

#destiel #deancas #dean winchester #castiel #spn 14x08 #Byzantium #canon #jack is still dead #but we know he comes back #so everything is fine #dean needs a hug #castiel needs a hug #so they hug #first kiss #kissing #boys kissing #fluff #literal sleeping together #hopeful ending #short fic #destiel fanfiction #my destiel fanfic

[suncaptor]

Kelly Kline meeting Jack in Heaven breaking down he died so young even though she probably thinks he's like in his twenties but in reality he's an infant <3

#kelly kline #jack kline #byzantium #spn #supernatural #s14 #kelly #jack #incoherents

[arcanespillo]

“Byzantium”

SPN S14E08

#i love jack and deans moments ok #spn #supernatural #jack kline #sam winchester #dean winchester #jared padalecki #14x8 #byzantium

[samepisodebracket]

Round 1; Group 33

#samepisodebracket #sam winchester #spn polls #spn #houses of the holy #byzantium #2x13 #14x08

[shallowseeker]

Pre-13x06 Tombstone moments were among Jack's best

Jack’s Heaven was the car ride to Dodge City

(Image from Naomi Aria)

Some fun observations about the scene:

They stopped for food at an adorable dog-theme diner called "Skipper's Beach Cafe"

Which....BEACH. The ghost of happiness -> toes-in-the-sand beach!

Anyway, it's adorable that they're lost, but it's also a little sad that the very act of getting lost is what led them...to the symbolic beach.

But wait! On the other hand, the specter of this beach COULD BE a false beach promise, symbolizing that whole "checking out and running away" temptation

When viewed as such, it makes SAM's proximity to Skipper's Beach Diner / Miracle / False Salvation a little disturbing, especially when viewed with the 15x20 finale in mind; it could be a figment

It could be read either way, that SAM's the only one who finds salvation by becoming lost and not adhering to a plan; OR (since Sam's app sucks) it's a danger sign, that Sam's off-road "checking out" is being led to a false dream. Apps tend to give instructions and steps, but maps must be interpreted in a spatial context

This would imply that Dean/Cas + Jack are actually the ones finding their footing here (at this moment in time in the story, anyways)

But back to cute things: Sam's phone app sucks ass & he's not happy about it

Sam is even whining about it, which makes me think that his whining in 12x12 Stuck in the Middle (With You) is totally a legit thing that Sam does often, because Jack has no reason to exaggerate here (God bless my annoying, tall man-child)

In this memory, Cas gets associated with maps, as he pulls an old-school map from the glove compartment and hands it over to Dean

(Cas is often associated to maps; he is the navigator-commander to Dean's captain-of-the-course to Sam's field marshal)

Cas is that holy North Star, the symbolic "North is up"

He's the thing that the boys put their faith in; a family protector; "angelic defender"; the thing that grounds Dean in particular

We see this dynamic again later, in 13x21 Beat the Devil. That is, Dean & Cas, as a UNIT, get the bearings for the group:

DEAN (snapping into business mode): Yeah. Thought we’d get spit out in the same spot, but this isn’t it. All right, well Charlie -- the other Charlie -- said that Mary and Jack have an outpost in Dayton. SAM: Okay. Let’s get our bearings and head that way. Cas, where are we? CAS (closing his eyes and concentrating): Uh, Kentucky. Northeast Kentucky. Or what used to be Kentucky. DEAN (looking at the sky then pointing): Which means that’s north. Okay, so Dayton’s that way. Roughly. Two days by foot but...that way. SAM: All right. [The group begins to move towards where Dean pointed.]

In AU earth, in later episodes, Cas even draws a map for them to reference as they go; Cas is keeping them grounded

Overall, Cas helps Dean get his bearings, and together, they help the group get their bearings (especially when Sam's way isn't working--in 13x06’s case, the app).

So, in 13x06, after Cas hands Dean the map, Dean is calm, maybe even grounded for the first time since Cas died.

Immediately, Dean begins teaching Jack to "read a map," perhaps taking on the role as PARENT TO JACK for the very first time (Jack and Dean have known each other ~20-25 days at this point). Dean is passing down the legacy of wayfinding.

Side note: Jack is shown gobbling down a burger, the thing that CAS loves in 5x14 My Bloody Valentine, and the thing that Dean makes, even as late as 15x14 Last Holiday (specifically with the goal of getting Jack out of his room):

SAM: What’s with the apron? DEAN: Burgers! But the pilot light keeps going out. It’s like the third time this week. Between that and the hot water, I thought this place was supposed to be state-of-the-art. SAM: It was, in the 50’s. DEAN: Hhm. Ah, Jack come out of his room yet?

Here in the 13x06 scene, when Jack crams the burger in, Dean nags him.

It's a contrasting callback to their first real "meeting" in 13x02 ("You can slow down, you know. That stuff’s not gonna disappear.")

The warning against eating too much, too fast, is a nod to parental nagging, sure, and that's cute.

But it's also tacitly associating Jack to overconsumption, which a key motif to both his Nephil-status and status as a rival, Usurper-God (not to mention, his zombie obsession):

[in Jack’s Heaven, working the case from 13x06 Tombstone, Jack gobbles a burger while the rest of TFW stand by Baby researching their route to Dodge City with their food laid out on the car’s hood. Sam is in the background on his phone] DEAN: Jack, take it easy. You don't have to cram it all in at once, right? SAM: Still no signal. DEAN: Yeah, 'cause I told you, that app blows. CAS [emerging from the car with a map]: I found this in the glove compartment. DEAN: Ah! Old school! A real map. Let's find our way to Dodge City. C'mere, Jack. I'm gonna teach you how to read a map. So, rule number one-- rule number one-- rule number one-- JACK: Dean? DEAN: North is usually up. [the sun appears to flicker on and off, and Jack looks up at the sky] JACK: Something's wrong. [Jack leaves his personal heaven and wanders out into the stark white hallway of Heaven, where the lights are also flickering. A tidal wave of black goo fills the hallway and chases after him as he runs away.]

He's recalling Dean specifically here, in order to get his bearings. He's using the wayfinding skills symbolically gifted to him by Dean & Cas.

It gives more weight to Dean & Cas in the prior scene, because this skill allows Jack to see the truth (about Heaven, about The Empty).

#shallowseeker thoughts #spn 13x02 #spn the rising son #spn scripts #spn transcripts #jack + cannibalism #jack + zombies #dean/cas + wayfinding #family + wayfinding #spn 13x06 tombstone #dean + burgers #cas + bugers #jack + burgers #tfw + food #bunker routines #tfw + bunker routines #tfw + family cars #spn 14x08 #spn byzantium #spn my bloody valentine #spn 13x21 #spn beat the devil #spn 12x12 #jack + heaven #spn stuck in the middle with you #jack & dean & cas + burgers #dean + legacy #spn parenting

[deansamnatural]

#sam winchester #supernatural #spn #s14e8 #byzantium #mine

[denimshortsdean]

I can’t believe we got to see dean and cas be a married couple with a son in season 14 and they just let it air live on television directly into our homes like that wouldn’t kill half of us dead on impact

#it's ya gal #rach does s14 #the number of times in these two episodes alone i have clapped my hands to my mouth and gasped #Unhuman Nature and Byzantium are literally the most stellar episodes of this #i am actually full frontal insane for the bedside interactions between dean and cas in 14x07 #spn

[keistance]

DABB AND SINGER YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY

#i just saw byzantium and #💀💀💀 #spn #kei talks #robert singer #andrew dabb #celebrities #supernatural

[soullessjack]

I truly cannot stress enough that jack hated himself for Kelly’s death and blamed it on himself and his own existence and his inherently evil nature and that in Byzantium when he got to meet her he was looking into her eyes with so much love and sorrow and she cradled his face and he buried it in her shoulder to hug her and this was the woman he thought he had murdered by simply existing and being what he was. And she loved him and she always made sure he knew it and because he knew she loved him he wanted so badly to be worth that love. He wanted his life to be worth her death. I cannot stress it. He wanted his life to be worth her death and to amend for destroying her. I really can’t.

#insanity posting before I go eepy #cal.txt #spn #supernatural #jack kline #kelly kline #spn 14x08 #byzantium #spn fandom #don’t even get me started on how becoming soulless and committing atrocities made him feel that he could never be good again #or how he said he was a monster all along and eat #and therefore Kelly was wrong and died for nothing bc he #lord #my joint pain is getting to me #the body horror of being your mothers killer and your first act of simply existing already causing damage #like wow okay fine #the claw marks ……the claw marks……..