Valentine's Unknown Sender
A couple of people don't find the Valentine sender's speech in tandem with Gaster's, which I completely agree with!
However, not everyone can see what we mean, so let me show you.
But before we continue, I should clarify that I'm not a fluent Japanese speaker and am just going off of what little I know about the language.
Now, let me show you the two (out of three) Japanese writing systems: hirigana and katakana.
It helps me think of hirigana as 'squiggly' characters and katakana as 'stiff'.
The last one, kanji, you'll recognize immediately, as they can be confused with Chinese characters due to their complexity (and, well, origin).
One of the points I've seen is that the style change is simply due to informality of the letter. Someone also said that it was written this way so we couldn't recognize who was speaking.
To get the latter possibility out of the way: during the release of DELTARUNE, the name of the account was blurred out, making them appear as a seemingly unknown person (everyone knew it was our lovable silly goober). Though, they still had a recognizable.. style. They spoke in stilted kanji + katakana. No hirigana anywhere, which is a strange mix. Kanji + hirigana? Sure. But excluding katakana instead of hirigana is weird. Katakana is used for names, loan words (and can also be used to show a foreigner speaking Japanese), names for species, emphasis, and also to indicate unnatural speech, often used for robots (which is the case for Queen, by the way).
Now, the Valentine's person? No kanji. They only use hirigana and katakana. Excluding kanji is very weird, too. But JRPGs at the time (which Toby loved deeply, as there are countless references to them in the game) had hardware limitations, so this choice was somewhat of a tribute.
This also applies to the Light World in DELTARUNE, which resembles Undertale heavily. However, in the Dark World, kanji is used. This stranger who people believe to be Mike would have to be a Lightner to speak without using kanji. Which makes me doubt that this is Mike at all. He has an affiliation with Spamton, with Tenna. They go a long way, before the fountain opened. And a Lightner can't enter a Dark World without one. More on that later.
Back to the letter, the grammar mistake is not accidental. In the Japanese version the sender writes "サラ ば!" which should be either in full katakana (サラバ) or full hirigana (さらば), not a weird mix. Also, 'goodbye' in Japanese is one word and should not be separated like that.
So, same thing with the letter. While we're not told who it is, their speech still has distinct features.
🎉 PRONOUN TIME 🎉🎉
Who uses what?
(I've highlighted Gaster in bold where needed.)
I: watashi (わたし) by both
You: kimi (キミ) vs anata* (アナタ -> あなた)
[* -- kimitachi in Entry 17]
We: watashitachi (わたしたち) vs ware-ware (ワレワレ -> 我々)
Watashi is a regular formal first-person pronoun.
Kimi (+tachi for plural) is a more casual second-person pronoun, can either be used by a superior to refer to a subordinate or one's equal.
Anata is a respectful second-person pronoun.
Ware-ware is a first-person plural pronoun used by either ancient beings or just someone old and important.
The download page for DELTARUNE in 2018, the SURVEY_PROGRAM itself, the SAVE menu, the GAME OVER screen -- all of them share these same speech quirks, mannerisms.
Gaster isn't just "formal", he speaks very slowly, often separating a sentence in two parts by starting off a new line. He uses very peculiar wording and it's as if he's struggling to speak. Picture an alien trying to communicate in our language, or a human that knows this 🤏 much [insert language], trying to form a sentence.
Gaster's quirks are also present in Japanese, the localization reflects what I just talked about. He's unnaturally stiff. He also never uses commas, and it's not about formality -- it's a distinct feature of his.
(For the Love of God Can You Embed Like a Normal Video)
Also, there have been suggestions that it could be another piece of Gaster. We already got a glimpse of what he was like pre-accident, and it's ENTRY 17. It lines up with the Gaster that accompanies us throughout chapter 1. And that means we are dealing with the most cohesive 'piece' of him. Why would, then, there be such an opposing part of him? It doesn't line up.
Personally, if this was about Gaster, I wholeheartedly agree with carlyraejepsans's take. And the only case which I'd agree on is DR Gaster.
So, here's the "later". The person knowing about the DELTA RUNE could line up with them being a Lightner, since they do have it plastered everywhere in the town, don't they? Only the Angel is ever mentioned in the Light World, but I'm sure that just like in Undertale, it's called DELTA RUNE by the Lightners just as it is by Ralsei. It seems to me that only the contents of the prophecy are different, but the name stays the same throughout worlds.
Though, funny how the prophecy is inverted.. I didn't notice it until now. In Undertale the focus is on the triangles and their salvation, while in DELTARUNE the focus is on the winged orb and its condemnation.
"You free the banished" vs "You banish the freest"
hehheeh
Anyway, it's not about the game, but the prophecy, so the person doesn't have THAT much knowledge. And I doubt they know about Ralsei's version of the prophecy, because other Darkners besides the prince himself don't seem to be aware of any prophecy. All they know is the Knight, which makes sense, since Asriel's doppelgänger stayed at his castle in wait of the Lightners all alone, without spreading a word about it. Neither Darkners nor Lightners know of it.
Though, the phrasing does feel odd. Waiting for what exactly?
DELTA RUNE? Also, the Japanese version having the name merged kind of bothers me. So, is it DELTARUNE or DELTA RUNE?
The translation team does distinguish the two.
Why not here? Was it intentional or not?
Well, I'll leave it up to someone else to figure out, right now I'm too tired for that.
tl;dr(?):
It's not UT Gaster, nor Mike (it's not a Darkner at all).
It's a Lightner and possibly DR Gaster.
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i'm so sorry, i've been so inactive lately...! this time, the reason is not personal struggle/distress. i have been incredibly incredibly busy with studies, work, and life changes, but they are good changes! i am really doing better now, and i am so so thankful to the Lord; i am so happy that i finally feel myself growing closer to Him, and my love for Him grows every day
i wanted to really sincerely thank everyone who prayed for me or sent me nice messages after that vent i posted a while back, it means so very much to me. the ppl on here are so kind and lovely! <3 (also, i am not ignoring my asks- i'll respond as soon as i have the time to give thoughtful input!)
this blog is not abandoned and i will return to regularly scheduled Christposting sooner or later!
hope you are all doing wonderfully, mutuals, and God bless you all!
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What if the whole 'infertility WHOOPS nvm' situation was caused by the DF? Maybe all the DF knew was that one of Firestar's children was to birth three warriors who could destroy them, and they obviously thought squilf was the one to do that, so they either tricked her or starclan into thinking she was infertile. What they DIDNT plan for was Leafpool breaking the code and getting pregnant, still fulfilling the mini prophecy.
Also my knowledge on things post first arc is really fuzzy but could mudclaw's death be from the DF? That put Onestar in power who iirc REALLLYYY hates TC bc he doesnt want to seem too friendly with them, thus dividing the clans more. Could work the other way around with them sparking Mudclaw's rebellion, amd Starclan stepping in to send the tree down.
Good suggestions! But I think I've got these two situations down pat already
Squilf's Infertility
I just kinda prefer the idea that sometimes people are infertile, y'know? Especially Squilf. I also don't want the Dark Forest to go away and have to open up the question of, "If they're not cursing her anymore, can she have babies now?"
No biobabies for Squilf. She raises the Three, and is the mentor of Jessy's and Bramble's daughter, Sparkpelt. She's just infertile because that's how things are sometimes.
Mudclaw's Rebellion
For this one, the Dark Forest's only involved insofar as Tigerstar is training Hawkfrost.
I want to make sure that Mudclaw's rebellion stays Mudclaw's idea primarily; I don't want to fall into the trap of canon material where they keep blaming the actions of their villains on Born Evil Cats without whom there would be no problems.
Mudclaw accepts Hawkfrost's reinforcements, and promises him power in exchange for help... but it wasn't the Dark Forest, or Hawkfrost, that suggested killing Onewhisker. Mudclaw did that.
And for that Mudclaw is actually going to the Dark Forest! He will not be in StarClan for my rewrite, likely becoming one of the cats who ends up defending Ashfur's Tunnel post-TBC along with Juniperclaw.
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i don't even get that sho betrayed the wicked twisters. he told them that he was just helping temporarily. and he did that. and then he left. what was the betrayal exactly lol
It's not about him leaving the W.T
This is semantics and I really don't feel like going and picking over neo to double-check, but I don't think Sho ever implies that his help is temporary as much as it is sporadic. He comes and he goes, but from the W.T reactions to his permanent departure it certainly doesn't look like they were expecting him to stop coming back. Nagi is desolate. Rindo says that they're doomed. Heck, this is the moment where Fret's cheerful mask slips for the first time in the game! And anyways, regardless of what Sho did or didn't imply, leaving them when they had just learned that they were playing for their lives, going as far as to say "Now I can finally ditch you zeptograms" is a massively dickish move, if not a betrayal in and of itself. Remember, they relied on him. Rindo and Fret especially, they're just kids, and they clearly depended on Sho a great deal, and would've absolutely felt hurt and betrayed when someone they'd come to see as a sort of mentor or guardian sneered and then turned their backs on them right when they need him most.
But I'm actually talking about when he attacks them in Week 3!
And this is more in the realm of personal interpretation. The way I see it, it's incredibly likely that Sho knew or at least could've guessed that Rindo's Soul Pulvis are dangerous fairly early on. He's whip-smart and has an extremely high imagination. Not to mention the fact that he spent all of Week 1 investigating it (which is a whole other can of worms, with him twice, once with the DRS and once with Susukichi, willingly putting the W.T in harms way in order to test his little hypothesis). He should've known that it was a danger to the city. He probably did! But that didn't stop him from waiting and watching it grow so that he could eventually harness the power himself, almost definitely so that he could make another attempt on the Composer's seat.
We know from the Secret Reports that he attacked the W.T in a mindless frenzy, that it wasn't something he meant to do. I don't think he necessarily meant to hurt anyone other than Joshua. He thought he could control Soul Pulvis. He couldn't. And then afterwards he has to scrape himself up off the pavement and confront the fact that he zetta fucked up and now all of Shibuya's in danger of being Inverted. It's like his Taboo Noise all over again, he makes a gamble for the city and nearly ends up dragging the whole thing under (with some help from the Conductor, of course) in his single-minded pursuit of approaching godhood, the difference this time being that he looks at what he's done and realizes that he doesn't want it to be this way. So he helps the W.T. He becomes an indispensable part of their plans to save Shibuya, which, in the end, works because of his understanding of what Soul Pulvis is and how it can be overwritten.
But back to his fight. The way I see it, Sho was a mentor figure to these kids, someone who they trusted to have their backs (at least when the mood struck him, anyways). He abused that position to test a theory. Then he left them, right when they were at their most vulnerable. Then he came back, to help them, they think, until he absorbs a power that he knows is highly volatile, attacks, and nearly kills them. Beat outright tells them that Sho doesn't care about anyone, but himself. I think this is wrong, I think he does care about the W.T. There are multiple times when he helps or guides them even when there's nothing immediately in it for him, seemingly because he really does want them to have a shot at making it out of this game alive. I just think that he still cares about himself a little bit more.
The Secret Reports outright say that Rindo is terrified of Sho after his fight. Whatever his motives were, whatever he meant to accomplish, it wouldn't really matter that much to Rindo, or any of the other Twisters. They trusted Sho, and he broke that trust. They (or at least Fret) seem to come around to him again a bit later in the week, but they're obviously more standoffish and nervous around him than they were before. If it wasn't a betrayal in a textbook sense, I think the W.T definitely took it as one.
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