#rwde kind of

[bubblinelovechild]

Serious question, does anyone know what crwby’s beef with ironwood is? I know why they hate Adam but having this much malice for a character you went out of your way to make cartoonishly evil (even more so than you hate your morally worse main antagonists) is very weird.

#no other villain has this kind of smoke #not Jaque #not Salem #not neo or cinder #like wtf is going on? #did they base him off of somebody? #rwde

[constantvariations]

Blake hid her ears seemingly without any consequences, but I think it'd be far more interesting if constantly wrapping her ears in a bow cramped them or affected her hearing. It'd make her choice to pass as human more poignant, and her decision to embrace her faunus traits far more liberating and satisfying

It also makes me wonder how many faunus choose to pass despite the harm they're doing to their bodies and how faunus with traits that can't be hidden, like giant scorpion tails or bat wings, might feel about those than can pass easily

There's so little shown about faunus culture and intercommunity politics and average lives, and it never not makes me sad

#rwde #i think a lot abt beacon blake and how her hidden status might have affected her behavior #its weird how different kinds of faunus can reflect different marginalized people #faunus that can pass as human parallel both white passing poc and closeted and/or lowkey queers #'scary' faunus can easily be victims of the dangerous predator stereotype similar to black men #i once saw someone compare the mermaid faunus not being at the rally to wheelchair users being locked out of unaccomodating places #faunus really are a catch all for marginalized people lmao #if only they werent written by clowns from hell

[invested-in-your-future]

Just because I got few similar asks asking about that

The issue with "Fixing" a writing of a show is that you are naturally assuming you are only fixing specific "season" and that there will be a point in the show when the writing "goes back" to being coherent and proper.

So for example, if you are trying to fix Volume 4 as Volume 5 is airing, you might, consciously or subconsciously, hope that V5 ending is where everything once again "clicks" and thus you just need to alter what doesn't work in V4 and what doesn't in V5.

So you think up of which parts should be changed. And sure that might mean entirety of Menagerie location needs to go (because real world implications of that whole arc are just...NO and you can probably think up a better WF storyline in half a hour with how bad that was) and Port needs to disappear off the face of this fictional story and pointless empty scenes of Ruby and Co walking through exact same forest textures need to be changed, but the structure might still work right? They are still traveling towards a specific goal right? So you just have to change HOW they get to that goal, because there is a goal right??? And then You just need to tweak the elements that don't work in V5 up to the ending where you hope things might get shaken up a bit more and go back on track.

But then V5 ends and the writing's still a mess. And before you manage to quite think through what to do, V6 starts and the writing is STILL a mess and what's more, it has a whole new set of problems and by this point you realize that for example, the entire structure of Kingdom of Mistral doesn't quite make sense, as if "someone" just plopped bunch of town locations in a straight line and then used Google's translation feature to just make up bunch of names for them, because entire continent is ultimately just an irrelevant detour.

Whoops, now you have to review what you did with fixing earlier parts and see if new problems arose, change up the geography of the story a bit, etc. You just realized that there's not really "a point" to the adventure of traveling through Mistral anymore so you need to think something up as you realize that the main character of the entire story has absolutely zero character growth from V3. The show is back to status quo yet again and its like V4 through V5 are completely pointless.

You realize, that Ruby Rose, the character that went through some of the most lifechanging events ever, just spent two seasons just ambiguously walking through bunch of forest areas and towns.

What's more, the team is back together but literally nothing that happened has been addressed in anyway and there's no actual growth of the characters at all. That can't be right. Right? Surely at least Yang and Blake w-... Oh no...

Resigned, you go back to your thoughts about what would need to change in V4 and a lot has to change once again to make Mistral anything but one huge pointless detour.

But its okay you th-...wait what's that sound? Its as if, somewhere just outside, a train just went off the rails as it was crossing a bridge and then somehow managed to jump over a shark and then exploded as it hit the ground...Whoopsie daisy.

In this exact moment, the writing throws you the infamous "Salem Flashback Episode", "The Lost Fable", and accidentally entire lore is now broken completely and it might be one of the worst written things in the entire show till that point, that kind of trivializes multiple mysteries people were waiting for and makes the writing for lead villain extremely tropey and honestly (yet again, as you start to notice a pattern in how the show writes women) misogynistic and if you want to make things work you might as well redo that too. Wait..."that" as in what??? As in the entire core of why the show is happening in the first place? THAT's broken? Well F-...

So now you barely started sorting out the mess of V5 (because its entire volume of basically literally nothing happening and whatever interesting happens always gets off-screened) and the show-proper just basically NUKED almost all of it's set-up and more than half of it's mysteries.

You realize you are staring at an episode that honestly can compete with worst seasons of Voltron in how bad it is. You actually start to think it might compete with the second genLOCK season in awfulness, but end up not thinking it can be THAT bad. I mean the show will never go bad as genLOCK S2, riiight?

Its okay, its okay - you have been theorycrafting RWBY stuff since the first trailers hit. You've read all the song lyrics which are filled with all these immaculate hints at the intent behind the show, thoughts of various characters and where things are going, you can maybe piece together something other than another "disgruntled manipulative woman" storyline. The songs having actual lore is great. I mean they wouldn't just suddenly throw that away, right? As that thought hits you, a sense of dread starts to overcome you.

And thus as another disaster closes in. at this point, little does your past self know that in the future, few years latter, the show will deliver a whole season of nothing but train crashes, but this time the sharks being jumped will talk like humans do.

So yeah... you can't really "Fix RWBY". Sure parts like Ren and Nora's backstory episode are nice and there are moments that felt good otherwise, but at that point, pretty much majority of post-V3 stuff is outright unusable. At this point to Fix RWBY means to redo literal core reasons on why the story is happening, how the world and it's lore works, motivations of the characters and, well, everything...

And that's how you end up with a file over hundred pages long that quietly has chronicled both your efforts to make sense of what the show even wants to be, as well as the show's descent into just complete randomness...

After all, when a writing team writes EVERY volume as one huge pointless detour that in no way actually enhances the characterization or story, at some point the whole train is bound to derail and crash...over and over again.

#RWBY #RWDE #rwby stuff mine #Ruby Rose #whoops I just kind of ended up writing a critique of ENTIRE RWBY SHOW while writing that

[unofficialadamtaurus]

its me the "never getting over adam" returnee. i plundered all of your au tags and after the adam vs gods au i cant stop thinking abt how rwby handled adam vs. how this light novel i read handled its adam equivalent

[long rant incoming]

i say "equivalent" very broadly bc the situations and worldbuilding are really different, like for one thing its a medieval-ish setting with no civil rights in general + no real avenues for nonviolence + murder is more standard here, but the gist of it is that theres a demographic with significantly higher magical potential than standard humans and the human policy towards them is either 1. forcibly conscript into military or 2. kill on sight

the protag is a human-passing conscript while his foil, who is kinda like the adam of the series, was born in a significantly more hostile environment and has been on the run since childhood. his schtick is attacking places where people like them are imprisoned and slated for execution, wiping entire towns off the map in the process, and if he doesnt get there in time to save his target he wipes the town off the map in retribution anyway

but while like... while no one LIKES the bloodshed that comes with what he does, the narrative is very generous with him bc even the characters that want him dead acknowledge that he is explicitly a product of his circumstances and there aren't really any viable alternatives for him. for the protag maybe but not for him. and the protag similarly acknowledges that while he, personally, is in a position to negotiate for their people to have legal protections, him doing so won't provide immediate salvation to their people getting lynched the way his foil slaughtering his way up to the gallows does

the foil guy also has a "must exterminate inferior humans" schtick, which is examined and broken down as a sad front for a man whos resigned himself to someday dying in the line of fire without being able to create lasting change for his people.

anyways sometimes i just look at him and then i look at adam and then i look back at him.

[rant end]

also his unique magic is basically just moonslice.

AND ALSO. THE REASON THE ADAM VS GODS AU THING REMINDED ME OF HIM.

in the worldbuilding!!! its actually revealed later that his people were created as part of a powerplay between gods!!! and meant to suffer at the hands of humans!!! however we never get to see his reaction to this because his entire narrative arc got dropped in favor of a romance subplot. which is especially a shame because he IS religious

DROP THE NAME OF THE EQUIVALENT

That worldbuilding actually sounds sick as hell, especially that reveal. But fucking hell why do the romance subplots always shoot massive character development opportunities right in the face 😩

#nyadloquium #unofficial adam answers #i spelled that wrong for sure #adam taurus #rwde #also 'a sad from for a man who has resigned himself to someday dying in the line of fire without #being able to create lasting change for his people' goes SO hard #and I wish we got more exploration of that kind of mentality with Adam :( #looking between the two characters as you've described is like looking at the reflection of the night sky in a muddy puddle #vs looking at its reflection on a calm lake #long post

[swordswoman97]

As someone who stopped watching RWBY several volumes ago I'm very conflicted on how I feel about it potentially never getting a conclusion (obviously everyone who worked for Rooster Teeth suddenly being out of work is a bad thing no doubt)

On one hand I have some issues with RWBY's writing the last couple volumes, some bigger than others but on the other hand I really did love that show once upon a time, and I have a lot of fond memories of it. And even now the show has a lot of potential and I'd hate to see it just... die.

I think I'm hoping someone does take a chance on buying RWBY but reboots it rather than continuing it. It would both keep RWBY from straight up dying but allow some things from the very beginning to be reworked (For example assuming CRWBY was telling the truth that Bumble/bee was meant to be canon from the beginning they really should have spent a lot more time building up Blake's relationship with Yang and a lot less building up her relationship with Sun. I have no problems with Bumble/bee in concept I just don't think it was handled well by the series)

#roosterteeth #rwby #rwde #kind of? #it's fairly minor critique

[itsclydebitches]

In light of the latest episode, why is Rooster Teeth so afraid of using the word "suicide" for its trigger warnings?

I honestly have no idea, anon. Especially since these were the same themes as last episode? The only thing I can think of is that they want to avoid spoilers (which, you know, isn't a good reason, but) and thus kept things vague. But Episode 7 already introduced the theme, so no one is going to be surprised that it continues into Episode 8. Given that we had the actual act this week, the show definitely needed a proper warning...

#rwde #rwby #mymetas #suicide tw #hmm #something else I just thought of #maybe they legitimately don't consider these suicidal themes? #considering that they're pushing for a 'it's just reincarnation!' message? #certainly that kind of warning would undermine #what the girls were trying to convince Jaune of last episode #but as I brought up in another post #I doubt the group will react well to RUBY doing this #which itself messes with the 'This is fine :))' tone #so why not just commit and do right by your audience? #if it walks and talks and dies like a duck...

[uncaught-coolfish]

it's so frustrating to me that Adam is supposed to be Gaston I guess??? when the Minotaur is literally right there (a monster not born as one but created by the cruelty of man, only defeatable with love and cooperation, Literally A Bull Man, etc) like. Blake being a whole fairytale is stupid because it's not repeated for any other character and also is the cause of some of the most horrendous fandom discourse because nobody can figure out what she, yang, Or adam are supposed to be in the fairytale. just make him the minotaur. let yang continue to be goldilocks. give blake an actual character assignment so her development can be less rocky and on more stable foundation. anyway sorry for the essay the autism bug has been biting me about adam's writing lately. idk if this is a take anyone else has already said but it's certainly not something canon has said lol so

im pretty sure the whole idea of him being gaston was a fandom originated thing that caught on hard but. hard agree. also abt the minotaur uhhh write that down Patrick write that down!!

#rwde #like? ppl saying he’s gaston bc oh he’s an asshole and the occasional BLUE EYES like wowwwww girlypop so original /j #and the fucking takes ive seen about Blake like. gee blake how come you get like SIXTEEN allusions? #allusions don’t mean shit in this show until suddenly fandom decides they do #especially when there is objectively way more pointing to him being a subversion OF THE BEAST. #like! Apparently this show is SUBVERSIVE and in a way IT IS SUBVERTING THIS TROPE (even if it is. Horrifically racist good god) #His name is Adam he has the fucking CURSED ROSE as an emblem he has horns he’s a little freaker freak #vs um. he’s just kind of a very awful guy lol #you can have whatever takes you want about this topic fandom #but don’t think I’m ever agreeing with you :3

[actualadamtaurus]

I lose 50hp every time I stumble across a "RWBY villains hide their disabilities because they want to hide their weakness and our heroes don't hide their disabilities because they're Good" take.

#rwde #since my blog got deleted i'm on here way less but yeah just saw that one :/ #i've seen multiple in my time here and every time it's baffling #disability and the way people interact with theirs doesn't say a goddamn thing about their moral alignment #or indicate some kind of character flaw #'but historically - ' and it was bad then too. stop it. #'but the show supports that reading' then guess what? the show has bad writing! crazy how that happens

[alittletrolling]

oh my god itd be even funnier if it was a tombstone dedicated to everyone who'd died in the fall of atlas

bc then it's like a bunch of civilians, PENNY, vine, clover, etc. people who were snatched by grimm or crushed in the rubble because there's definitely a bunch of people who died before Ruby could get the doors open, right?

and sometimes monuments are built to acknowledge those lost for Everyone lost in a disaster

and then winter just

#rwde #ik thats probably not the case but they had to have left some kind of monument for the others lost right

[peapodjoe]

Does WBY know how ascension works?

I'm seeing people argue that WBY knows how ascension works, and that's why they don't have any kind of freak out over Ruby drinking the tea, but do they know that? Do they really?

The paper stars explained how ascension works for them, but there's been a claim since early in the show that going to the tree doesn't work the same way if you're not from the Ever After. Jaune claimed that going to the tree/ascension means you lose yourself and your memories, that you become someone else.

100%, if I was one of WBY and I saw Ruby drink some tea, 'die', and get summarily swallowed up by the earth I would not be living in calmsville. I mean, I ASSUME I would at LEAST be as upset as the freaking cat.

Like, come on. Are we supposed to think WBY are Ruby's friends? Like, at all? We jump back into the show and the first thing they do is smile and give Jaune a pep talk about how failure is okay.

#Like #guys? #Your team lead kind of just committed metaphorical #possibly LITERAL suicide #right in front of you? #she made eye contact with her sister while she did that? #No one is CONCERNED? #rwby criticism #rwde #rwby volume 9 spoilers #rwby

[constantvariations]

Man I wish the White Fang had numerous community programs like the BPP did. It would've been super cool to see Adam and Blake interact with other faunus outside of missions and the WF. I like to imagine Adam volunteering to teach people self defense while Blake spends some down time teaching people how to read and maybe they're both banned from the kitchens because they accidentally started a small grease fire because they're used to cooking on the road and not with fancy dancy equipment

#rwde #god i fucking wish the white fang was done so much better #i wish all of rwby was done better #remnant is so isolated and soulless it genuinely hurts to think abt #whats the use of such a vast open and colorful world if youre not going to do anything w it? #the white fang absolutely shouldve been abt community and regaining their identities and freedom #esp the community part #its so depressing that blake never talks to any of the faunus on menagerie until shes asking them to fight for haven #adam never really gets to talk to anyone period #ilia and sun talk like #once? maybe twice? #everyone's so isolated it's painful #esp when you compare it to actual people and history #recently read a post abt how an African family managed to find out where they came from thanks to a song passed from mother to daughter #wheres that kind of solidarity? that history? that culture? where are the songs of resistance or dances altered to be done w mining gear? #idk im just in a weird headspace rn. reading history just Does Something to me yknow?

[invested-in-your-future]

"Maybe showing more was not necessary"

Ten years.

Three continents

Three different kingdoms.

Nine Volumes

Multiple WoRs.

If the concepts like passage of time, mechanics behind grief and impact of local traditions upon character motivations or behaviour NEVER ever crossed writers minds then:

Very likely very few actually impactful things happened in the story somehow. Or got treated as such

Very likely very few characters actually got a character arc somehow or had to actually deal with either their surroundings or their emotions.

Very likely very few locations actually ended up feeling like real locations or mattered to the story being told.

Very likely more than a few characters outright fell through the earth because you just lost track of where and when which character should be.

Very likely more than a few characters pulled final season of game of thrones and ended up teleporting across the world more than once because you just lost track of when and where and what happened.

Very likely more than a few things ended up having happened "because magic"

It's just amazing how that insta-nails multiple severe issues with rwby writing huh.

#rwby #rwde #hey remember when blake learned fast travel #or when the story would spawn enemies exactly where plot needed them #or when Ruby kind of forgot about severe trauma #or when muktiple characters died and the show moved on #or when the kingdom of technology and science ended up running on magic plot device #or when the show kind of rehashed the exact same endgame for a kingdom multiple times in row doing nothing with it after #or when the show just placed bunch of villages in straight line and called it Mistral #seriously how do you write a story without actually dating when specific thigns happen in it????

[kitkatopinions]

which rwby villain do you feel sympathy for the most?

The thing about RWBY villains is that a lot of them are sympathetic in different ways, so it's really hard to stack suffering against suffering and try to decide which is worse, you know?

And also, so many things go into the characters and how I feel about them. Whether or not they were abused and who by, what level of brutality they faced, whether or not there was any coercion involved in their villainy, whether or not they're teens, whether or not they have or are implied to have spent time on the streets with nothing, whether or not they were given sympathy or chances, whether or not I feel like they got screwed over by the writers, whether or not the character is well-written enough to seem real enough to get that sympathy... There's a lot there. There's kind of an upper echelon of villains that are really hard for me to rank, and then the rest of them are more easily ranked.

Idk if I'm forgetting anybody, but yeah. This probably isn't a very satisfying answer. XD There you go, though. Please keep in mind that the villains I like often are but aren't always the ones I sympathize with the most. For instance, I like Roman more than Cinder and Adam, and I do not at all care about the Malachite twins whereas I do think Watts is a good fun villain, he's just... Not at all a sympathetic villain. XD

#rwde #kind of I guess lol

[ironwoodprotectionsquad]

Not me coming up with another AU after volume 9 finished with new ideas to play with specifically the Ever After to use it better then RT did.

#rwde #kind of #loosely #lolz

[storm-of-feathers]

I did not just see someone say jaune deserves to be PERMANENTLY DISABLED as a PUNISHMENT for the fact you don't like him

#anti rwde #HOLY ABLEISM BATMAN #teehee jaune deserves to never walk or hold a weapon again uwuuwuwuwu #why do you think being disabled is a punishment. hm. #why do you think jaune needs to be a rerun of yangs arc #which yang learned to find peace and power with herself #but moreover you seem to hate jaune. a lot. #which is fine hate who you hate #but why do you have violent fantasis about ''making'' unable to hold a sword #why do you fantasize about making a character disabled *as a punishment* #bc he kind of annoyed you. #the ableism fucking reeks holy shit

[normalest-of-knees]

Episode 8 and general Volume 9 discussion under the cut because... oof-

Tw: suicidal topics involving this episode and previous ones

Where exactly do we go from here? I'm serious. Where can this even go with 2 episodes left to this nonsensical volume?

Regardless of what RT actually does next episode, one way or another Ruby herself and (hopefully) everyone else will have to deal with the fact that she wanted to die, or at the very least, not be herself anymore.

Yes, Ascension is supposed to be different, but we also don't know anything about that. Ruby isn't from this world, so it may not even work, but we've also had unreliable sources (according to the show, anyways) as to what it actually is and does. We know the basics of how it's supposed to work, but not whether it's actually good or not

I had one crazy theory come to mind after the last 2 episodes, namely after we see Summer in Ruby's reflection in the storm.... and I cannot stress how much I hope this won't happen (but given how things have gone so far-):

I'm worried we may get a "Ruby turns into Summer Rose" or "Ruby was actually Summer all along" bullshit. It's just stupid enough to be something the writers would think is a "cool" "fun" "twist".

That aside, I must once again stress (I said this on a different blog) that everything feels like its going by at a break neck pace. So much is happening yet nothing is happening at all??

Ruby seemingly doesn't run very far away at all, enough that her team can hear the gunshots of her being attacked. She gets some weird spotlight beforehand that at first I thought was supposed to convey the passage of time as she walked, but I'm not really sure. She seemingly purposefully walks towards the mansion/casino/building Neo cooked up and we immediately are inside?? There's no transition to this. You'd be forgiven for thinking after she ran away that this bit was all a dream

Then even the parts with the dead menagerie attacking Ruby are odd. How does Neo know about half of this stuff? Is she guessing? Did she somehow find out via the lamp back when Cinder used it?? And as awful as it was for Ruby to be beaten and tortured like that, it was insanely short.

I know she was already beyond her limits, but they barely do much/say much before she's considering the tea. She had so much fire when she waltzed in there ("If you want me dead then come and get me!"), but a few illusions and her Aura is broken and she's ready to be done?? Again, I know she was already having a breakdown before, but it still felt too rushed to be natural. I know we saw bruises and a few cuts (and random blood on her hands?), but otherwise she wasn't visibly looking worse than some other fights she's been in before.

Also, why in the shit fuck did her friends just stand there and do nothing? You're telling me after someone dear and close to you freaks out, runs off, then you hear gunfire and rush to see what it is, then see her on the ground visibly upset and beaten up with the villain who has been hunting her down standing over her with their weapon out, you just..... stand there?? Waiting to see what's up?? There weren't even any copies or illusions around as well, it was just Neo and Ruby there.

Ruby just picks up the cup and drinks and Yang just.... stands there. Even the close up on her eye didn't have much emotion other than if she was watching a log tumble off a waterfall or something. Like barely anything aside from "Oh wow. Huh" going on....

And yeah, CC and Neo being the ones more upset over that than anything is.... a thing.

I don't care how the group interprets Ascension, you see your close friend, your SISTER, drink some unknown liquid and then falls over looking dead and gets swallowed up by a hole in the ground with vines, you'd have a reaction. You'd be panicking and running over to the spot. Freaking out! "Where'd they go?? What's going on??" Would be an understandable reaction.

But nothing. No one even moves an inch, they just watch, get blasted by a Cat, then it's over.

I thought at least Weiss would use her glyphs or something to charge at Neo or get to Ruby as fast as she could. Summon something to knock the cup out of her hand. Anything!! Why are they so.... apathetic about it? They're not even really horrified, they're just "Oh no... anyways." Like they saw someone slip and break something they were holding. Unfortunate, but oh well.

Don't even get me started on Yang's bitching earlier.

"Why'd she run off like that?!" "That wasn't upset that was-- ugh!! Why didn't she talk to us?!" "We weren't asking her to be perfect."

If you told me Yang hardly ever interacted with Ruby ever, let alone was her sister that 'supposedly' raised her, I'd believe you. The Hell kind of reaction is this when your sister runs away crying after expressing she wasn't doing ok?? Yes, Ruby brushed people off when they'd try to ask if she was ok, but even that is still an answer! Clearly she was not ok! And even when she'd be more vulnerable or sad, she was ignored or scolded for being sullen. How in the fuck was she supposed to open up?

I honestly don't know what is even gonna happen after this. 2 episodes left and the title character committed metaphorical suicide.

They'll either make it not matter, make her reset and forget everything, become someone else entirely, or nothing will change and she'll just have to be like "Yeah, so, my bad. Anyways, here's the exit guys"

This show makes me so tired....

#rwde #tw: suicide mention #tw suicide #please tell me if there are appropriate tags to use for this sort of thing #I wanna be sure no one has to see anything tgey dont want to #Unlike RT it seems #the fuck kind of content warning was that?? #also also. side tangent. but anyone else feel that Roman & Pyrrah looked super off?? #I felt like her model wasnt moving properly #her neck seemed weird and overall it was just uncanny valley #even Torchwick just didnt feel right #tag later #Knees Talkin #the younger me wants to see this series through. but current older me is noticing they're suffering just as much as me to see it like this #this show was a ghost of it's former self long long ago #and I thought I'd made my peace with that. but damn if it still doesnt hurt like hell