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redteabaron · 4 years

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Why do you hate Tyrion? You keep making these meta theory posts about he's thie huge villain when he really hasn't done anything???

he...is a villain? grrm has pointed out he's a villain but he's his favorite character to write, probably because he's a villain out in the open - and all of his chapters are pretty self-centered, misogynistic (even in the world of asoiaf by grrm he's notably looking down on women esp compared to other main characters like Ned (despite my own criticisms about him), Jon, Sam, Bran, etc...like...

The thing about Tyrion is that he IS sympathetic. He isn't a monster. I call ppl monsters but when actually analyzing them I don't like to because it takes away their human quality and seems to almost absolve them of their crimes/issues/sins. Tyrion lives in an extremely ableist society, is treated terribly by his family with the exception of his brother (who treats him better but I can't recall if Jaime actively stood up for him) and mostly everyone around him mocks him for his disability and looks. He is sympathetic. That, at most, points to a reason for the way he is but it absolutely doesn't clear him of the things he does and it's not the only thing that hinges on the way he is.

He raped one of Illyrio's enslaved girls (there seems to be...a suspicious...reason...that enslaved brown ppl are...ignored when they suffer at the hands of the main characters...so suspicious...esp the women...very suspish)

He molested Sansa on their wedding night despite acknowledging that she is a child and told her to "think of the knight of flowers" because he could be anyone in the dark; instructing her to make her rape easier on HIM

He armed the mountain clans and they ended up causing havoc for the local ppl when they returned

He hates that Cat outsmarted him because she was a woman

Threatened Cersei he would beat and rape Tommen if she didn't comply with his orders. Also wants to rape and kill Cersei and fantasizes about it. They have a very antagonistic relationship anyway, but him making that a term for his assistance is....telling. that was a Choice.

General treatment of prostitutes; see Shae who in the books was hired for sex and companionship and he makes his clear that she is dependent on him while he thinks she's sweet and stupid. And then he murders her when she has sex with Tywin because she "betrayed" him - what exactly could a lowborn prostitute could have done if a high born lord wanted to have sex with her? Tell me. Not a goddamn thing. Shae had no power in any of these relationships. Tyrion had no cause to murder her. He just was enraged because she was a possession to him and his father "tainted" her and he was entitled to her eternal loyalty. (Spoiler alert, he wasn't) This ties into his revelation of the truth of Tysha and he just feels sorry for himself again.

Tyrion's POV, like everyone else, is a trap because we can only exist in their bubble and also observe everyone else and find out the whole truth using clues in the narrative from grrm and surrounding characters and the context of situations and the truth in the POV itself (is this them glossing something over because they don't like it?). Tyrion is sympathetic, but his POV is all about him believing himself to be The Nice Guy who ppl only hate because of his looks (see Sansa who is a POW, is a child bride, whose family is being killed by his). He has a lot of selfishness and self-centeredness which can be excused sometimes - but this is a core element of his POV and character and he always tries to excuse his darker aspects by justifying it. Not to mention his hatred of Cersei is largely excused because ppl hate her but they forget what he's threatened and was willing to go through with. And his anger/frustration/lust towards Sansa is also excused because...well ppl just want to punish her and they prefer Tyrion to her and want him to "get her" as a punishment for her and a reward for him (and to say that he would be a punishment for her is....suspish to those that like him and also believe this). Him murdering Shae is excused as a "dark gray"action because she slept with his father (ignoring again the class disparity and social issues of asoiaf that could've made it hell for her if she'd tried to say no, assuming she ever could). Tysha existed only as an extension of his self-pity - he'd been a victim too, but he seems to ignore the fact that she was too even after the truth comes out and spares little to no thought of compassion or guilt on the epiphany.

He has moments of compassion/kindness, but he always expects payment for it and hates when he's denied it. A Lannister Always Pays His Debts - and he's more Tywin's child than anyone else. A fact both hated.

I think he's a good villain. I think he can be sympathetic. But I think he's still a villain.

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