#rwby volume 6 theories

[anthurak]

So I’d like to talk about one small part of Volume 9 that was never directly addressed or even noted by the characters, yet feels like it is EXTREMELY significant going forward:

This infuriatingly CURIOUS Blue Butterfly that for SOME reason keeps showing up around RUBY.

As we all know, this butterfly first showed up in Volume 6 during Ruby’s conversation with Maria about the nature of their Silver Eyes. At the time, it seemed like a pretty vague bit of symbolism that we probably didn’t understand the full context for yet.

THEN that Blue Butterfly showed up again in the Ever After. Multiple times, and seemingly CLOSELY associated with Ruby.

First it showed up during prior to Ruby’s game with the Red Prince.

Next, and far more interestingly, the Butterfly shows up flittering around Ruby herself after she runs away from her team and Little. Again clearly establishing some kind of connection with Ruby.

And the funny thing is, this Butterfly is not explained or even acknowledged by the characters this volumes. They’re just... THERE.

Then we get to this Butterfly’s final appearance in Volume 9, which also happens to be massively consequential when you start thinking about it:

They appear in the Blacksmith’s flashback as the first being shown to be ‘awakened’ by the Brothers.

Implying that this Butterfly is not just a denizen of the Ever After, but may well have been one of, if not THE first Afteran to have been created by the Tree after the Brothers.

A Butterfly which again, seems to have a close connection with RUBY and others with Silver Eyes.

At this point, I’m wondering if Maria was actually wrong about the Silver Eyes coming from the God of Light. But rather somehow through this Afteran. Like what if the Brothers weren’t the ONLY denizens of the Ever After to come to Remnant?

Either way, there is clearly SOMETHING important about this Butterfly and how it connects to Ruby and the other Silver Eyed Warriors.

And as a final note, I thought I’d point out that while Volume 6 was the first time we were introduced to a specific Blue Butterfly in relation to Ruby, it wasn’t the first time we had butterfly imagery associated with a character. But it wasn’t Ruby...

...It was WEISS back in Volume 3.

Connection?

#rwby #rwby analysis #rwby theory #rwby volume 9 #rwby volume 6 #rwby volume 3 #Ruby Rose #rwby ever after #rwby gods #rwby god of light #rwby silver eyes #Weiss Schnee #the TRUE origins of the silver eyes...?

[bobauthorman]

There and Back Again?

RWBY Volume 9 brought up a very interesting subject. Namely, the concept of Ascension. This is a form of resurrection where the subject dies, but comes back in a form different from the one they had before, with their conscious memories gone. However, this does not mean they are wiped clean of all traces from their previous life. They still possess unconscious memories, emotional responses to reminders of what they knew before, even if they no longer recognize the subject.

The reason I’m bringing this up is because of a mystery that to this day has not been solved. In short, I believe the concept of Ascension is a clue that will tell us the identity of the mysterious figure who appeared in Volume 6;

Her.

When she first appeared, a plethora of fans concluded that she was someone related to Pyrrha Nikos, given her appearance, knowledge of Pyrrha’s background, and being voiced by Jen Brown, Pyrrha’s voice actress. However, I’m starting to wonder if this woman is none other than Pyrrha’s Ascended form,  the lost P of Team JNPR reborn in a different life. Look, here’s my thoughts:

Ascension is when you die, and come back in a form of your choosing, minus the memories of your previous life. In her life, Pyrrha was unhappy with how her celebrity status isolated her from people. Rather than coming back with Moar Power, what if Pyrrha chose a form that would let her blend in with the normies and stand out less? That would explain why she was so happy when Jaune said Pyrrha was a True Huntress.

Now, I know a lot of, well, all of you will ask, “Pyrrha died on Remnant, how could her spirit get to the Tree in the Ever After?” Good question. For that matter, how did Summer Rose’s weapon Sundered Rose end up in the Tree? Is Remnant and the Ever After as separate as we think?

I don’t know. But it’s worth thinking about. And while we’re at it, we still don’t know how mankind came back after the Two Brothers wiped them out in the first era.

#RWBY #Volume 9 spoiler #Volume 6 #Pyrrha Nikos #Little #Somewhat #Theory #Argus #Sundered Rose #Ascension #Meta #Analysis #Lost #Jen Brown #Red Haired Woman #Summer Rose #A Place of Particular Concern #A Tale Involving a Tree #Of Solitude and Self #cheese #flowers #mace #glasses

[impressivefailure]

#rwby #qrow branwen #raven branwen #I get that its an in-universe theory in rwby that someone's personality can effect their semblance and vice versa #and the branwen twins are a good example of the latter #but they would each be so much better at using the other's semblance #for one Raven would be willing to actually use and hone misfortune #but put Kindred Link in the hands of Qrow 'we met yesterday and now I'd take a bullet for you' Branwen #our protagonists could teleport anywhere qrow made a close friend #kindred link!qrow would just skip volume 6 and rnjr's part of volume 4 altogether

[iamafanofcartoons]

Hey, what are your thoughts on the whole 'Qrow is Ruby's father' theory? Genuine answer, please.

Okay, let's look at it this way.

We all know vaccines don't cause autism. But anti-vaxxers repeatedly claim its a lie, a conspiracy, and refuse to listen to the CDC.

We all know the earth is round, not flat. But flat-earthers refuse to listen to NASA and treat it as a conspiracy.

How does that relate to Qrow theorists?

Monty Oum said, before Volume 2 Chapter 6? That Ruby and Yang are half-sisters. Not Step-Sisters. Half-sisters.

What do the "Monty's vision" and Qrow theorists say? "Monty meant step-sisters" "Monty was hiding the truth" "CRWBY has already retconned Adam Taurus and the show, so they should retcon this" "Monty is dead, so M&K don't have to follow this"

The very man that RWBY Critics put on a pedestal and claim to be some man whose work was ruined, but everything that comes out his mouth or tweets gets ignored and despised.

Yang talks about how Summer and Tai raised Ruby and Yang together as kids. Qrow theorists: "Yang was too young, her memory is spotty" "Qrow gave Ruby to Tai to raise after Summer's death" They literally ignore EVERYTHING that Yang said. Eruptionfang , the biggest Adam Taurus dickrider, made specifically suer to completely ignore the entire scene in his theory video which made sure to try to paint Monty as a liar.

Tai reads a bedtime story to Ruby and Yang about the Warrior in the Woods?

"Its not canon" "It was after Summer's death, so here's how Qrow can still be Ruby's father"

Now...how about specific things in question.

A girl named Anna masters was so in love with the theory, that when evidence disproving the theory came about, she used the R-Slur.

Another girl, Rose, kept claiming it was monty's vision, but when the mods of the facebook group showed her monty's tweet? And showed her that she could NOT use "Monty's vision" to support her claim? She started badmouthing Monty....because that's what Qrow theorists are like.

A third girl I dealt with happened to be a member of the WomenforVic movement of the vic micnogna defenders.

She had managed to get Vic Micnogna to say "Ruby, I am your father" at her camera, and she used that to claim that anything monty said was meaningless because Qrow's va , at the time, did a joke.

When Miles Luna shut down the theory on reddit and claimed that Qrow was a role model and father figure, but NOT ruby's father in any way shape or form?

The Qrow theorists immediately showed their true colors by doing mental gymnastics trying to twist Miles' words, or flat out calling him a liar and claiming that he was "Ruining monty's vision"

Anti-vaxxers. Flat Earthers. and Qrow theorists.

For these people, truth is not what is actually true. Truth for these people is what they decide to be true.

They reject reality, and substitute their own.

And if you try to show them that they're wrong, they hate you and call you toxic or other unsavory names, because these people wish to keep their delusions. They find their delusions better than reality.

Its the same way Adam Taurus fanfic writers get furious because their headcanons that they decided was somehow the actual show was debunked by the actual show. So they claim it was a retcon or character assassination.

Just ask these theorists about their thoughts of Qrow being Bi for Clover? Their responses will be full of bigotry.

But at the end of the day? There is no god. Vaccines do not cause autism. The earth is not flat. And Qrow is not and never will be Ruby's Father.

#vaccines #earth #nasa #cdc #rwby #qrow branwen #ruby rose #summer rose #yang xiao long #miles luna #rooster teeth #monty oum #crwby

[nerdlydelicious]

So a question. Do you not like the whole support hero thing Jaune has? Any reason as to why?

Because Jaune isn’t a support character and never has been.

And I’m not talking about whether or not he’s a main character in the story. He absolutely is, but that’s a separate discussion. I’m talking about his role in combat.

Ever since Jaune’s semblance was revealed there have been people saying ‘oh, Jaune is a support character now. He should just focus on buffing the others with his semblance rather than fighting since he’s weaker than everyone else anyway.’ It got even worse after the end of Volume 8 with people saying he should just never fight again.

Those people are wrong.

Normally I’m open to discussing things and debating a topic, but this isn’t one of those times. Because the show itself proves this theory wrong. Even after unlocking his semblance, Jaune has consistently been an active combatant in just about every fight he’s been present for. He fought on top of the train at the start of Volume 6, he fought Cordovan’s mech at the end of Volume 6. He fought the Grimm when they attacked the group at the start of Volume 7, fought the Grimm at the dust mines, and fought the Grimm when they were all sent down to mantle to drive off a large assault.

In Volume 8 he once again fought the Grimm to protect the people of Mantle. In fact, he was the one to kill the Wyvern (at least I think it was called a Wyvern) by cutting its head clean off. When Oscar was taken he cut his way through the horde of centipede Grimm that tried to stop them alongside Yang and Ren. He fought his way into monstra, once again alongside Yang and Ren, and took part in the ambush they used on Ironwood, and in fact was the first person we saw engage Ironwood after the trap was sprung.

And in the Volume 8 finale the only reason Jaune didn’t immediately get involved in the fight against Cinder was because he chose to focus on evacuating people. But what did he do as soon as everyone was out? That’s right, he told Nora to go get reinforcements, glided across the gap between the bridges, and body slammed Cinder, 100% ready and willing to throw down with her. Granted, Cinder cut that short quickly by wounding Penny, but it doesn’t change the fact that until that point he was absolutely willing to take her on.

Jaune has never been a support hero. Really, there isn’t such a thing as a ‘support hero’ in RWBY. Because if you can’t fight Grimm then you’re just a liability on the battlefield. This isn’t an MMORPG where the tank can taunt enemies and draw all their aggro. The Grimm will attack anyone they can get their claws on, so if you have a squishy support character who focuses on just ‘healing’ or ‘buffing their allies’, then what you actually have is dead weight you need to protect because they can’t protect themselves.

Now, does all this mean that Jaune has never or can’t ever do support things? Of course not. Jaune’s used his semblance to bolster others plenty of times. He strengthened Ren’s semblance so he could mask a lot of people all at once in multiple occasions, he helped Penny hold back the virus, and of course he healed Weiss and tried to heal Penny.

But news flash: He can do both.

If you’re familiar with Dungeons and Dragons, then Jaune is a Paladin. He can buff his allies and fight at the same time. He’s not a back line support character dropping buffs and heal spells. He can stab a Grimm in the face, top of Nora’s aura, then stab another Grimm in the face. So people need to stop saying that he can’t.

Sorry for the rant. I’m just tired of people trying to reduce Jaune to a support role. And it is reducing him.

#rwby #jaune arc #rwby volume 9 #rwby vol 9 #rwby spoilers #rwby vol 9 spoilers #rwby volume 9 spoilers

[fenneonsarah]

RWBY HEADCANONS!!!

Some RWBY headcanons I have all shared in one place cause the brainrot is real. Most are queer/shipping headcanons, but not all (Spoilers for Volume 9, also not all characters are included, just the ones I do have a headcanon about)

Ruby is a homoromantic asexual. She's always had romantic feelings for Penny since she loves goofballs, and has started falling for Weiss after spending more time with her. In between volume 5 and 6 is when she truly fell for her. In her ideal world, she'd be in a poly relationship with them both. For a non-queer/ship headcanon, she has ADHD

Next is Weiss, who I headcanon as pansexual. Her crushes on Neptune and adult Jaune were pretty shallow and nothing serious (not that she doesn't like them at all, just doesn't see a future with them). She also had a crush on Pyrrha, but was respectful and backed off when she started suspecting Jaune might've had feelings for her too, which was timed perfectly since that's when Neptune came in the picture. She didn't like Ruby at first, either as a person or romantically, but both of those feelings grew over the years and she now does like Ruby but doesn't want to admit it to anyone, even herself

I guess it's a trend of mine to headcanon my favourite characters as queer transfems, and that's the case with Penny. I can totally see Pietro building a "wrong body" for her at first, and since she didn't have a concept of bigotry at the time, she wasn't afraid to ask him to change her body, which he happily agreed to and apologized for not getting it right straight away, although she always forgives him. For sexuality, I see her as demisexual. She didn't have feelins for Ruby until they spent time together and got to know each other better. She wanted to ask Ruby out after the Vytal tournament and enrolling at Beacon, then again after escaping Atlus together, but I don't think I need to mention why neither of those worked. She also has no ill-will toward Pyrrha. If Pyrrha were still alive, Penny would hug her close and tell her it was okay

From my favourite character to my favourite male character, Qrow. First of all, I know the behind the scenes reason his voice changed, but I like the headcanon that it changed in the show cause he cut back on drinking. Maybe not altogether, but significantly less than he used to. Along with Ruby I also see him as a homoromantic asexual. His whole womanizing act is just that, an act to seem cool. In actuality, Clover was the only person in years he ever had feelings for.

Neo is short and simple, like her character (I love her). I see her as a aroace transfem. At first she used her semblance to look how she wanted, but now she naturally looks that way. Also not really a headcanon but pLEASE DON'T LET HER SPEAK, I HATE THAT FAN THEORY SO MUCH, KEEP HER MUTE

Winter I also see as aroace. Relationships confuse her more than anything, but the more her and Weiss get close, the more she teases Weiss guys to annoy her (she doesn't know Weiss is pan and assumes she's straight, but would be supportive if Weiss came out)

I think those are all my headcanons. Sorry for my ramblings, thank you for reading. I also have a theory for how I think the show will end, but that'll be a seperate post

#rwby #headcanon #queer headcanons #lgbtq headcanons #ruby rose #weiss schnee #penny polendina #qrow branwen #neo politan #winter schnee #i am gay please help #little gay brain big gay heart #i love my rwby children #except jacques #fuck jacques #all my homies hate jacques

[tumblezwei]

People always speak like rwby fell off after vol.3 but honestly I feel like the show really found its footing when volume. 6 can around, (apart if me would say volume 5 because despite the execution being janky somewhat due crunch time because of a certain show *cough cough* "gen lock" *cough*, I feel like the ideas that were put into that volume were ones they were able to properly utilize starting in vol. 6

Oh definitely. Like it's actually insane for there to be people out there that think vol 1-3 we're peak RWBY.

My running theory is that those people haven't actually watched vol 1-3 since they aired, and the only content they've seen from it since were the handful of Monty-animated fight scenes.

And like, sorry, but Sun swinging around his nunchucks so quickly you can barely see what's happening doesn't suddenly make the vol 1 finale better in terms of writing or overall animation.

#ask #anon #discourse tag

[autumnsorbet]

Epilogue and theory v9/10

So today a few hours ago for me the epilogue came out I'm very excited about it since this is the most Ruby content related to the main show we've gotten and about a year it's better than us waiting and confusion like we did wondering what was going on with volume 9 where it was a to what felt like to 4 year wait 😅

I also like to hear a rise then there's possibly been a time skip of longer than we think and vacuole even though the epilogue shows the characters and the same outfits they've been wearing since volumes 6 and 7 I do like to think that when we do see these parts of the epilogue and volume 10 like we've been told by Eddie and kerry

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We'll see new updated looks maybe some of the characters will look older or a bit taller I really hope this happens and I can't wait to see what their character designs look like especially Oscars and winter

So let's get started with what I liked from the epilogue and some theories all throwing you here and there

🧡💚Oscar

wondering if the others were alive and actually trying to do research into it even though remnant has limited resources and information even ozpin didn't know what happened to Ruby and the others

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So I'm excited to see their reaction and volume 10 I'm guessing we'll get the reunion with everyone and episode 2 whenever we get volume 10 and these explanation of the ever after will come up an episode 3 because I believe in episode 2 if they do end up getting to vacuo and reuniting with the

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others then that's going to be the main focus and then maybe a fight will happen and after that and episode 3 they'll take a break for episode they'll explain everything that's been happening with them Ruby and the others will explain what happened to them and the ever after, team Rwby will see how Oscar's merge is affecting him I wonder if jaune using his Aura amplification would help Oscar I'm not sure it might make it worse we'll have to see

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but like I said in other post on here and Twitter I Believe by the end of volume 10 Oscar's merge will be complete and will be left on a cliffhanger as to who it is or will actually get to see who it is at the end and we'll have to go from there sadly cuz either way we're either losing ozpin or Oscar

💙Nora

I'm so happy that this epilogue started out with Nora cuz she was one of the characters even more than Oscar that I wanted to know what was going to happen with since from the beginning they'd always set her up it's kind of like a pair with Rin and now we're getting to see Nora Branch out and do

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her own thing away from rent even though he can tell that now after telling himself and Nora that he loves her, he still gives Nora her space I'm glad that Nora got to stand up to people who were being hostile towards orphans since Nora's been an orphan for longer than we've probably known

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We get to see Nora actually interact with other characters for once outside of her team it's just amazing and I wish they had done this sooner

I can't wait till when we actually give volume 10 because I hope we'll see so much more of Nora and maybe if we're lucky maybe she'll somehow become a maiden

❤️💚Ren

I like what they're doing with Ren Ren sees that John isn't there anymore so now he's trying to be supportive and uplift the team the same way his leader would and I'm happy they're doing this he learned a lot from him and Atlas he saw how

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confident John became after losing so much and struggling since the beginning of beacon and now he's not there to uplift or support them like he used to so wren's trying to support and uplift everyone

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even though they're separated I also look forward to seeing what happens with him and volume 10 especially with his relationship with Nora he's still trying to give her space even though you can see he does want to be with her at the moment so I wonder what they'll do with him from what it seems maybe they'll have some moments with him along with maybe other characters like male characters

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kind of like we seen in Ruby Chibi where he'll be with some of the male characters and they'll be looking into Tyrion and Mercury working with the group called The crown from the before the dawn and after the fall light novels which are Cannon to the main story of rwby

💙Winter

I actually got to see more of winter than I thought I would with the rest of the epilogue I'm happy that we see how much control she seems to have over the maiden power so far her flying her combat and skills she truly is a good candidate for the powers

I'm hoping at some point we'll get to see winter interact with the other maiden I'm hoping that this maiden is very young somewhere around winter's age but has a bit more control over her powers than winter and maybe she can learn from someone instead of trying to teach maybe form a friendship or a bond and that will help them in their upcoming battle with Salem and speaking of Salem

❤️🖤Salem in vale

For the longest time now I theorize that Salem probably went to Vail I think she used up her grim pools on the dark Continent and needs to go to a place where a larger amount of her grandma are still active and that would be veil she's there looking for the crown possibly with cinder since she has Tyrion and mercury and vacuo teaming up with the crown

Salem can sit back and make more grim using the staff I honestly do have some doubts here and there when it comes to the writing in the show but so far over the past several volumes is actually gotten so much better and I love it it was especially amazing and volume 9

I'm not sure what they'll have Salem do with the staff maybe if we're lucky Salem will somehow separate Oscar and Oz before they merge I doubt that will happen with that could maybe happen so she can actually confront the person she wants to instead of a 15-16 year old

#rwby #rwby9 #vacuo #rwby10 #rwby fan art #rwby designs #rwbyv10 #noravalkyie #lie ren #oscarpine #winter schnee #salem #rwby analysis #Rwby meta #rwby theories

[ficretus]

Theory: Cinder will capture Jaune in Vacuo portion of the story

It's me, back again with another theory based on Joan of Arc story. This time, trying to figure out how her capture by Burgundians will be realized in RWBY story.... if we ever get to that part of the story. If it were to happen, it will most likely be in Volume 11 (I might make Volume 10 Joan of Arc theory one day).

I'd suggest reading my theory below to get better understanding of who do I read as what character and how do events that already happened figure out in their respective story timelines. If not, I'll still make quick tl;dr whenever something from that theory pops up.

First of all, let's start with why. Why would Jaune be captured at any point of the story? Jaune is one of the rare characters in the story who's primary inspiration gets captured in their story (other being Ruby), and no, I don't think Jaune being captured by Ace Ops will suffice for this. Joan of Arc' time in captivity was comparable to her time serving as a soldier (both being roughly one year), so I'd find it pretty weird if Jaune never gets captured as major plot point.

Timeline wise, it also matches. Volumes 4-5 match Loire campaign (pursuing the enemy, enemy fails to ambush them and suffers major defeat), Volume 6 is Rheims coronation (usage of Lantern/King is granted wisdom by Ampulla, both being oil containers), Volumes 7-8 are siege of Paris (both being greatest cities of their respective regions, Joan/Jaune suffers major defeat and retreats last over the bridge). I go over this in more detail in the timeline theory I linked above. Volume 9 is the only one I cannot connect to major event of Joan of Arc story, although that could be because Jaune becomes Rusted Knight during that portion of the story, temporarily ceasing to be Joan of Arc. This would make Vacuo portion of the story, theoretical Volumes 10-11, Joan of Arc' campaign against Perrinet Gressart, battle of Lagny and siege of Compiegne. Compiegne was the last battle Joan of Arc participated in, leading to her capture. So based on this, if Jaune ever gets captured, Vacuo portion of the story is the safest bet.

Cool, but why Cinder as his captor? Joan of Arc is captured by Burgundian army and Cinder matches Burgundian role in Joan of Arc story. Both side with enemy to achieve their goals (Burgundy sides with England, Cinder sides with Salem) ,both are power hungry with the goal of eventual freedom (Burgundy wanted to separate itself from France and become independent Kingdom), both have personal vendetta against enemy leader (Ruby reads as king Charles VII). On top of that, soldier that captured Joan of Arc was archer and Cinder is one of the rare characters in the series to use bow and arrow instead of firearms. Additionally, Joan of Arc was under shared jurisdiction of two enemy commanders, Lionel Bastard of Vendome and John of Luxembourg. Former had lame hand, latter had missing eye. If you overlay their injuries, you get Cinder again.

Why would Cinder capture him is different question who's answer will vary depending on interpretation of the events.

Now that I explained why do I think it's incredibly plausible thing to happen, let's get to the interpretations.

First let me start with interpretation I strongly reject.

Theory 1: Cinder won't capture Jaune, she will kill him on the spot. This is one of those obvious interpretations dating back all the way back to early Volumes, ever since Cinder was revealed to be the fire user. She is fire, he is Joan of Arc, bam, perfect match (I guess Cinder will give Jaune and Pyrrha matching sweaters). There are couple of reasons I reject this interpretation.

I am sceptical about Jaune having tragic ending to his story. While it does make sense on paper considering Joan of Arc is his literary influence, it doesn't quite work with Jaune's story. Joan of Arc has series of triumphs before losing some battles at the end and getting captured. Jaune basically gets none of that, or at least scraps of successes Joan had. On top of that, he gets significantly more failures and suffering compared to Joan. Killing him like this would be like kicking the man while he is already down.

Story seems to reject Jaune's martyrdom, ironically in his battle with Cinder back in Volume 5. He goes in admitting he doesn't care about his own life as long as others succeed. Issue Jaune has is lack of self worth due to his perceived uselessness. For him, character development would be learning to value his own life and not throwing it away for what he thinks is greater good. Having him die in combat basically invalidates that. Him throwing away his life wouldn't be an issue in that case, it's the fact he tried to throw it away at the wrong point of the story.

Having Cinder kill him would feel pretty weird. Common aspect of their encounters is that she can kill him at almost any point but for some reason chooses not to (be it arrogance, sadism or something else entirely), even when she logically really should (there is no reason to not go for a kill when Jaune denied her Maiden power). Having Cinder kill him would feel like she at some arbitrary point decided to flip metaphorical kill switch and finally do it.

Now to interpretations I find more likely

Theory 2: Jaune will be captured and then turned into Grimm. This is taking Joan of Arc story pretty straight forward with some twists. In this version of the events, Cinder will capture Jaune, but not kill him, most likely sadism or because of something Salem ordered her to do. Burgundians ransomed Joan of Arc to the English, which will be mirrored with Cinder giving Jaune to Salem. She will turn him into Grimm akin to the Hound and force him to fight his friends. This will represent Joan's death as heretic. Joan of Arc was re-trialed years later at the orders of king Charles VII, who is Ruby in this version of the story. Duke of Alencon (who I read as Weiss) was one of the witnesses during rehabilitation trial, so I guess she'll help out as well. Ruby will purify Jaune and save his life, symbolizing Joan's rehabilitation.

Next thing is not Joan of Arc related, but what the hell, when will I ever get an opportunity to mention this. There is a another Grimm fairy tale about Snow White, in which she has sister Rose Red. This always bothered me, since it works so well with Ruby and Weiss but story seemingly has no relevance in RWBY plot. They meet a talking bear they take care of. Then they meet evil dwarf several time, always helping him, but he is always ungrateful. In the end, bear kills dwarf, revealing himself to be cursed prince dwarf turned into a bear so he can steal his treasure. Snow White then marries cursed prince and Rose Red marries his brother, the end. So, what does this has to do with anything I said paragraph before? Well, if Jaune does become Grimm and he becomes let's say, Ursa like Grimm, then things get more interesting. He becomes cursed prince from the story that ends up marrying Snow White, making this effectively Whiteknight (Cinder can be then read as evil dwarf since she'd be one responsible for his curse and she stole his treasure, Pyrrha). This would also imply Rosegarden since Rose Red marries prince's brother (Oscar being another cursed prince).

This interpretation does rob Jaune of lot of agency post capture since he'd be esentially mind controlled, but it does hit enough Joan of Arc story beats for me to consider it plausible. This would also shift Cinder to being primarily Weiss' rival since Jaune would be out of commission.

Theory 3: This is step 1 in Cinder's redemption arc. Time to get back to that particular rabbit hole, this time with 100% more Stockholm syndrome. This one will have whole lot speculative canon, but I'll try to reinforce each point with Joan of Arc parallel.

Ok, how the hell does that work? Well first, we need to get back to that double timeline theory I linked at the beginning. To sum it up, timeline 1 goes from Joan's arrival at Chinon to her heresy trial, timeline 2 goes from Joan's childhood to her victory at Orleans. These 2 timelines overlap creating complete narrative (V5 is both Joan's Loire campaign and trip to Vaucouleurs, V8 is both siege of Paris and Joan's village being sacked, etc). I go into reasons why I use this method in that theory.

Anyways, last event I traced to 2nd timeline is Joan's village being sacked. She spends her time in city of Neufchateau before departing for Vaucoleurs to meet Robert de Baudricourt for the third time. Quick tl;dr, Cinder is Baudricourt in this timeline since both dynamic and timeline placements of her meetings with Jaune match Baudricourt's meetings with Joan. Both times, Baudricourt dissmisses Joan (first time borderline publically humiliating her), but third time he relents (motivated by his desperate circumstances and Joan's correct prediction of king losing key battle near Orleans) and sends her to king Charles' castle in Chinon. Sidenote, Cinder also plays the role of Charles VII in timeline 2 (backstories match, both have a crown that they cannot reach, both were raised by powerful queen dowager after running away from their home) which I don't feel is contradictory for the reasons I go more in my timeline theory. Additionally, Joan gained favor of two of Baudricourt's soldiers, Jean of Metz and Bertrand de Poulengy. This surprised Baudricourt considering both were notorious troublemakers. I translate those two into Emerald and Mercury in my timeline theory.

Cool, but what does this has to do with Joan's capture? Well, we overlay this portion of timeline 2 onto Compiegne portion of timeline 1 to get the full story.

First to get back to Compiegne: Burgundian duke Philipp broke the peace treaty with king Charles VII and attacked Compiegne. Joan went there with relatively small army and in some sources, against king's orders. She rallied out to fight Burgundians, holding well, but ultimately getting captured. Burgundians were unable to take Compiegne (or they did but it was quickly recaptured, I've seen both).

So full translation to RWBY would be: Cinder manages to outsmart Ruby and gets into position where it's likely she'll take Maiden power and Relic. Jaune shows up as the last line of defense, likely fighting her together side by side with Emerald and Mercury (I believe Mercury will be redeemed in Volume 10, partially due to Joan of Arc story). This can be interesting callback to either Cinder, Emerald and Mercury taking on Amber or Jaune confronting Cinder with Emerald and Mercury by her side like in Volume 5 (their roles now being reversed). Similar to Volume 5, Jaune will likely hit several sour spots for Cinder (this is reference to Joan telling Baudricourt her visions and them turning out to be true). They lose after putting up a good fight but buy enough time for others to reinforce and prevent Cinder from obtaining the Maiden power and Relic (or Cinder takes too much damage in the fight). Cinder makes spur of the moment desperate decision and captures Jaune while running away (this matches Compiegne, Jaune gets captured but enemy doesn't achieve their objective). Capture kind of works with timeline 2: if Cinder is both Baudricourt and King, then she is effectively sending Jaune to herself, that to me reads like capture.

Several of her comrades try to free Joan, but by the time they reach the place where she is held as prisoner, she is already moved to different castle. This can also happen in the show, breaking the trend of main cast successfully rescuing their captured friend from previous volumes. Jaune would then be taken to Salem with Cinder (who'll likely get punished for her failures) arguing she can exchange Jaune for location of Relic of Choice (maintaining the part of the story Joan is held for ransom). Similar to theory 2, I'd expect Jaune's capture to last at least one full volume.

Ok, that's cool and all, but what does this have to do with Cinder's redemption in any shape or form:

They are forced together for extended period of time. Additionally, there will be nobody else for them to interact with. Eventually, they'll have to interact in some shape or form. I would expect lot of initial setbacks considering Joan of Arc attempted to escape twice. But still, it would be pretty weird if they just grumbled at each other whole time and then go back to fighting. Come on man, they are foils that don't know they are foils, do something with that.

Neither can hurt each other. Jaune cannot hurt her since he is her prisoner, she cannot hurt him without risking the prospect of deal falling off (and as shown when threatened by Neo, Cinder considers her death plausible outcome if she screws up the Relic). That means Jaune can meaningfully verbally challenge Cinder without the risk of dying (hello Watts). This also wouldn't be reach to happen, considering he does similar thing in Volume 5. Basically, Cinder will be stuck with Jaune as voice of consciousness entire volume without being able to get rid off it.

This transitions relatively well into Indecisive King story. In that story, Widow (basically Jaune) spends time in King's castle before eventually confronting him over Relic of Choice. Joan of Arc similarly spends time in King's castle at Chinon. In both stories Jaune coded character spends time with Cinder coded character before eventually changing them for better.

As usual, I decided to make Cinder portion needlessly long and complicated. Anyways, what are your thoughts? Did I miss any plausible interpretations?

#rwby theory #cinder fall #jaune arc #rwby jaune arc #rwby cinder fall #knightfall #rwby knightfall

[doomalade]

You know what sucks about the Hazbin Hotel fandom and why I'm mostly distant from it? The fandom greatly has the same energy as RWBY's! You may think people are having fun,but after awhile, all you see is stressed out angry people over multiple things like controversy of show, fan critics, and lastly, the creators. Sound familar? It's one of the reasons I actually left the RWBY fandom. That and amongst other things like their treatment of Ozpin. I'm an Ozpin fan, yes, even with how Volume 6 practically spoon feed us how we were supposed to feel about him. Not that entire matters me because, I hate the scene where we find out about Ozpin's backstory and private information through forcible means and then, team RWBY practically bullies him to the point of crying on his knees in the snow. They continue to talk crap about him the entire time after. I don't know, maybe I just have too much a heart, because damn that pissed me off. The fandom only followed in suit because CRWBY talked shit about Ozpin's character, in front of Ozpin's voice actor no less, in podcasts, influencing fans to do the same. Anyway, all of that, made me feel like I wasn't allowed to like Ozpin's character or understand him so, I left. Much like how I'm not allowed to not like Hazbin Hotel.

Truly I am dead set on the theory that Viv was doing a RT speedrun and dang was she going fast

#doom.txt #hazbin hotel critical

[anthurak]

An In-Depth Analysis of the Interpersonal Relationships of Team STRQ (and why Rosebird is DEFINITELY a thing)

So I’d like to do something of an analysis on the interpersonal relationships of Team STRQ. More specifically, analyzing Qrow’s, Taiyang’s, and Raven’s respective relationships with Summer, based on what the show has directly told, and shown us.

Starting with Qrow, as I think this analysis is the most straightforward. Now to get one thing out of the way, I think we can definitively say at this point that Qrow is NOT RUBY’S SECRET DAD. Beyond CRWBY thoroughly debunking the theory at this point, nothing we’ve seen or heard really paints Qrow as having been in any kind of romantic relationship with Summer. Or at least any that would supersede any romantic relationship with Raven and/or Tai in some ‘Poly-STRQ’ scenario.

To begin with what we’ve heard of Qrow’s relationship with Summer, we’ve actually heard quite a bit, relatively speaking. In terms of dialogue, we’ve heard more about Summer from Qrow than either Tai or Raven, which is helpful in getting a sense of what their relationship may have been like. From his conversations with Ruby in Volumes 3 and 7, we can say that Qrow views Summer with both admiration (“She was always the best of us…”) and fondness and affection (“Bit of a brat though. But hey, I like brats.”). But the detail I find most telling is the ease that Qrow has in talking about Summer, particularly in Volume 7. When Ruby asks him about Summer and her ‘last mission’, Qrow isn’t hesitant or all that uncomfortable with talking about his teammate. Which gives the impression that Qrow has actually coped with Summer’s (apparent) death fairly well.

Which in turn is notable because THE go-to narrative method of hinting that a character was romantically involved or had feelings for another character long missing/dead is to show them being clearly uncomfortable TALKING about that other character (something we’ll be revisiting in a little bit…). Something we don’t see from Qrow when he talks about Summer.

It’s also notable that while Qrow, along with almost all the other adults in the show, was something of an unreliable narrator in the early volumes, his talk with Ruby about Summer happened AFTER Volume 6 when Qrow opted to finally start being open with and trusting of his niece and protégé. Meaning that I think we can trust that Qrow is being genuine in his talk with Ruby in Volume 7.

And in terms of what the show has so far directly shown us about Qrow’s relationship with Summer, the answer is notably: Nothing. Because unlike Tai and Raven, Qrow was absent from the big important flashback giving us our first look at Summer. Which combined with what we’ve heard from Qrow, tells me that the narrative of RWBY considers Summer’s relationship with Qrow to be less dramatically important/significant than her relationships with Tai or Raven.

Moving on to Taiyang, what’s interesting is that Tai’s relationship with Summer is kind of in the inverse situation of what we see with Qrow’s. In that with Qrow we’ve heard some but seen nothing, with Tai we’ve seen some but heard almost nothing.

I mean, consider for a moment that prior to the tenth episode of the NINTH volume of the series, EVERYTHING we knew about Taiyang’s relationship with Summer Rose came to us second-hand from Yang in ONE conversation with Blake back in Volume Two! I’ve spoken before in other posts that if feels quite curious that while the overlying text of the story claims that Summer’s relationship with Tai should be very important, given that they are supposed to be Ruby’s PARENTS, yet we have heard effectively NOTHING about it. Other than a simple claim that ‘it existed’. I mean, forget how we’ve heard more about Summer from Qrow than we have from Tai; we’ve heard more about Summer from RAVEN than we have from Tai (more on THAT in a little bit XD)

Now of course, unlike with Qrow, as of the finale of Volume 9, we have actually SEEN a look at Tai’s relationship with Summer. Albeit a brief look, but enough to get something of a sense of it. What I find interesting is that despite this being our first look at Summer’s relationship with Tai, this scene/vision doesn’t really tell us, or Ruby, anything she/we didn’t already know about these two. That Summer and Tai were really close… and that’s pretty much it.

And what I find even more interesting is a curious amount of ambiguity towards the nature of Summer’s and Tai’s relationship in this scene. Despite the text of the show claiming that these two were lovers, this scene is notably lacking the kind of overt romantic gestures we might expect, such as a kiss or long held gaze. Yes, Summer and Tai have a very close hug, but let’s not forget that RWBY has used close, intimate hugs like this as a gesture of platonic or familial love/affection just as much if not MORE times than as a gesture of romantic love. Just look at Ren’s hugs with Jaune, or Jaune’s hug with Ruby, or even that time Ironwood hugged Qrow. Simply put, I don’t think that hug tells us nearly as much about Summer’s and Tai’s relationship as people might think.

Finally, we come to Raven. And funny enough, unlike Qrow and Tai, I would argue that we have both heard AND seen QUITE a bit about Summer’s relationship with Raven.

When it comes to what we’ve heard, it’s not just what we have heard from Raven about Summer that’s important, but what we HAVEN’T heard as well. Across Volumes 4 and 5, we see Raven all too happy to mock, criticize and generally smack-talk just about everyone from her old life, from Ozpin, Qrow, Taiyang and even Yang.

But not Summer.

For some reason, Raven NEVER has anything bad to say about SUMMER.

And the ONE time Raven does mention Summer, it is during a talk with Ruby, Summer’s daughter. Not only that, but rather than criticizing or mocking Summer’s memory, Raven’s line of “You sound like your mother,” is at worst neutral and might even have an undercurrent of respect.

Finally, Raven’s tone and demeanor when she says this line come off as very guarded and restrained. Combined with how she never mentions her outside of this scene, one thing becomes quite clear:

Raven does not like to talk about Summer.

Remember what I said back in the Qrow section about characters having difficulty/resistance to talking about another long-missing/dead character as an easy way to hint at a prior romance or romantic feelings?

Yeah, this is EXACTLY what I was talking about.

And then we come to the flashback/vision in Volume 9’s finale. The scene which, while also brief, showed us a LOT about Summer’s relationship with Raven.

Whereas Summer’s scene with Tai merely showed us things we already knew from Yang, her scene with Raven is a MAJOR reveal that establishes a whole new dynamic that both Ruby, and much of the audience had NO idea about.

That Summer and Raven were actually quite a bit closer than anyone ever realized. That Summer apparently trusted Raven more than ANYONE else to help on her secret mission while also having apparently taken Raven leaving Yang, Ruby and herself rather personally. And that Raven herself was actually quite a bit more upbeat and joking around Summer than we see her in the present, while also specifically showing a joking, awkward and even bashful side around Summer that has a lot of curious similarities to how Yang has acted around BLAKE.

And when we take this scene in conjunction with what we see of Raven in the present, a surprisingly consistent and complete picture emerges of Raven’s relationship with Summer.

In Volume 5, Yang notes that Raven is different from the woman she heard about from Tai and Qrow. Introducing the question that something changed Raven from the driven, determined and loyal woman Qrow and Tai knew to the bitter, angry and fearful woman we see at present. Well now we know almost for certain WHAT that something was:

Raven lost SUMMER.

Taking these two elements together, we can see that Raven CARED about Summer. Cared about her so much that loosing Summer almost certainly BROKE Raven. Whatever happened during that mission turned Raven from this…

…to this.

We also know that Summer encountered Salem during her last mission, and whatever happened during that encounter seems to have inspired Salem to begin her grimm-hybridization experiments. And now that we know that Raven was with Summer on that mission, it becomes pretty easy to guess why Raven is so convinced Salem cannot be killed, and is so utterly TERRIFIED at the prospect of facing her again:

Because Salem took Summer away from her.

Raven’s refusal to smack-talk Summer and the great difficulty she has in even mentioning her, Raven’s utter terror of the woman who did SOMETHING to Summer, that we now know Raven was almost certainly present to witness, and Raven being both quite friendly and awkward and willing to help Summer with her secret mission in the past.

All of it adds up to Raven having cared about Summer a GREAT deal. Likely cared about her the most out of her teammates. Given how she’s clearly taken Summer’s loss far harder than Qrow or Tai.

And when we add in Summer’s clear trust in Raven, that she trusted Raven above anyone else to help in her secret mission and even her clear resentment of Raven leaving Yang, Ruby and herself, we get a sense of just how close these were.

Summer and Raven were in all likelihood closer with each other than they were with anyone else. Sure, Summer certainly cared about Tai and Qrow, but it is Raven whom she TRUSTED above all others. And despite whatever caused Raven to leave her team, she still came back to help Summer with clearly no hesitation or reservation.

The funny thing is, with this scene we now know, or at least can reliably infer, more about Summer’s relationship with RAVEN, than we do about her relationships with either Qrow OR Tai.

And the thing is, this makes perfect sense when you consider the story arc going forward that this scene is almost certainly setting up:

That Raven is now THE pivotal figure in the mystery of what happened to Summer Rose. Because it is now clear to both the audience and to Ruby that Raven must KNOW what happened to Summer. Going forward, it is Raven whom Ruby and her team and family must pursue for the answers of what happened to Summer.

With this scene, the relationship between Raven and Summer just became THE most consequential among those of Team STRQ for the story going forward.

It’s one of the big reasons why Rosebird as a pairing just feels so fitting for these two. It’s why it suddenly makes sense we don’t hear all that much about Summer from Tai or Qrow, and why neither of them know what happened to her; because the story of who Summer was and WHAT happened to her isn’t theirs to tell.

That story is RAVEN’s. And of course, Summer herself once we find out she’s not actually dead.

And the crazy thing is, even Raven turning out to be Ruby’s father feels like a natural extension of this: The relationship between Summer and Raven is now established as this very significant and consequential element, and now Ruby will almost certainly be driven to seek Raven out for answers as to what happened to her mother.

(Note that I say RUBY specifically. Because while Yang will certainly be involved and invested in this search as well, it is ultimately Ruby and only Ruby who saw the vision. Thusly, SHE is the one ultimately driving this arc.)

So we now have Ruby on a quest to find Raven to find out what happened to Summer. The young girl seeking out the older woman whom she bares a curious resemblance to in order to find out what happened to her mother, whom this other woman was actually quite close with.

The writers might not have confirmed or directly hinted at Raven being Ruby’s secret dad, but they sure as hell put us on a narrative path the could absolutely lead to such a reveal.

#rwby #rwby analysis #rwby theory #rwby character analysis #Team STRQ #Summer Rose #Qrow Branwen #Taiyang Xiao Long #Raven Branwen #Ruby Rose #Yang Xiao Long #rosebird #rosebird parents #rosebird parents theory #possibly reading a BIT too deep into things

[grwvy-rwby]

"I wanted to be the hero. Like the stories that my mom read to me. I just wanted to do the right thing, but every step of the way it's like there is no right thing. I tried so hard. And I may have just done more harm than good." - Ruby ep. 9 V9

"The more I tried to get the story back on track, the more she distrusted me. Was it my fault? Did I change the story? I couldn't even be the make-believe hero. I didn't have time to make it right." - Jaune ep. 6 V9

One of the things I like about RWBY V9 and Ruby's arc in it is that she's not framed as naive. I don't see it as much anymore, but I used to see a lot of theories that Ruby would breakdown because she's too naive. That she needed a 'wake-up' call to see the world as it 'really is' (read awful) which I always thought was a misreading of her character.

Instead of being uniquely naive in a terrible world, Ruby is struggling with the same problem that multiple other characters have struggled with. It was Ironwood's downfall, the reason Ozpin lost hope, and Jaune's main struggle. The desire to be The Hero. The need to help people, to never fail, to always have the answer, to be a beacon of hope. And it's crushing (or has crushed) all these characters.

It's really telling that Jaune literally became a fairy tale hero this volume and it wasn't good.

I looked forward to Ruby realizing that she can make mistakes and that's ok. That being Ruby Rose is enough.

#ruby rose #jaune arc #rwby #rwby v9 #rwby spoilers

[dreanner95]

I just want to share my personal theory about when the Bumbleby kiss will happen. After getting a sense for how Volume 9 seems to be structured and how the opening reflects the progress of team RWBY up to now, I am guessing the kiss will happen in Episode 6. Sharing my theory for the overall structure for the next three episodes will show why this is my guess:

Episode 5: Will deal with the immediate aftermath of what the Curious Cat did. And because Jaune is seen next in the intro and we all guess that whatever happened to him has to do with the blacksimth, I think it makes sense for team RWBY to meet the blacksmith this episode. In this episode it will probably be reiterated that Ruby could also leave herself behind and become something new. The episode will likely end with the bridge above the clouds will be intodruced.

Episode 6: The first of two episodes dealing with what I call the cloud trials. From a pacing stand point it makes sense to have the Bumbleby kiss happen here mostly because what I think about what will happen next episode.

Episode 7: This one has been hyped up by a few CRWBY members as the one that will hurt. So this will likely be Ruby’s downfall, represented by her falling off the brigde in the opening. And because this episode will probably be about this one moment, it would clash if the kiss would happen in the same episode.

Those are my justifications of why I think the kiss will happen in Episode 6. To be honest, I could see the kiss happen in Episode 5 just as much but I don’t want to get my hopes up. And with how much I think Episode 5 will have to handle with intodrucing two new characters and getting the team to the next acre (aka to the cloud bridge) I am really confident in my assessment. But I also made a lot of assumptions about the pacing that could turn out completly different.

Another connected question is about if there will be another Bumbleby moment. Episode 4 didn’t have one but that was because a big portion of the episode was about getting to that incredible smoke scene. So my hope/guess is that we will get the biggest Bumbleby moment yet that will be a direct set up to the kiss.

#rwby spoilers #rwby9 spoilers #rwby volume 9 spoilers #bumbleby

[didyoutrydynamite]

World of Remnant: Grimm Eclipse

A long time ago, I made a post on Grimm Classification within the JNRZ Universe, which you can read here using this link ( here ). In this post, there is a certain detail I would like to expand upon, a certain recurring event known as “Grimm Eclipses”.

No one knows where Grimm originally came from. Their malice has plagued humanity as long as the first texts of history were written, so it is no wonder there are so many legends and records surrounding these creatures of the dark.

Amongst these stories there is a recurring phenomenon, horrible that rivals the worst natural disasters of history. Disasters so great, it has wiped out dozens of forgotten civilizations and countless lives, an event they call, Grimm Eclipses.

Grimm Eclipses are occurrences of mass Grimm migrations that occur at the awakening of Nephilim Class (Colossal Type) Grimm. To quote the original Grimm Classification post, “Nephilim Class Grimm will find a secluded spot far from civilization and go into a hibernation state that lasts for years, sometimes decades, possibly even centuries. - Eventually, Nephilim wake up from their slumber and will leave their nesting grounds, and lead gigantic hordes of Grimm towards nearby Settlements.”

The leading theory on the reasoning behind these “Awakenings” is that these Nephilim Class Grimm sense large concentrations of negative emotions in densely populated areas, mostly towns, cities, or battlefields. This is backed by evidence of increased Grimm Eclipse occurrences during times of war. Ever since the ending of the Great War and the founding of the Huntsmen Academies, the number of Grimm Eclipses have dropped from as high to 3-4 events a year to as low as a single event every 2-5 years.

No one Grimm Eclipse has ever been the same, each being led by a unique variant of Nephilim Grimm, leading to their naming rule. While hurricanes are named after people, Grimm Eclipses are named after their Nephilim. To use some RWBY canon examples, the Fall of Beacon was led by the Wyvern, therefore it would be named “Eclipse Wyvern”. The attack on Argus in Volume 6 would be known as “Eclipse Leviathan”. And the Fall of Atlas in season 8 would be known as “Eclipse Monstra”.

Whenever a Grimm Eclipses begins, the Nephilim will wake from its slumber and begin it’s migration towards the nearest settlement. The length of these migrations can range anywhere from hours to weeks depending on the distance. Along the way, every Grimm near the Nephilim will join in it’s migration, creating an absolutely massive horde of monsters for the  upcoming destruction.

Grimm of every classification have a role within Grimm Eclipses to an unsettlingly organized degree, almost that of an organized military force. Mavet Class (Predatory Types) make up the bulk of the Grimm forces, acting as the main infantry and fodder, while Shedim Class (Dweller Types) make up the rearguard and support elements. Within settlement walls, Mazzikin Class (Vermin Type) act as scouts and saboteurs while Dybbuk Class (Sadistic Types) act as assassins or vanguard. At the center of it all will be the Nephilim acting as the central command, leading the swarm in its crusade of death and destruction.

#jnrz au #world of remant #JNRZ world building #creatures of grimm

[iamafanofcartoons]

100+ REASONS TO WATCH AND ENJOY RWBY

Let’s put this as simply as we can.

Now, I understand you’ll need further reasons to look into the show that was created by Monty Oum, Miles Luna, and Kerry Shawcross.

SO! Here is 100+ Reasons to give RWBY a shot, plus a resource list link at the end. ENJOY!

1) Sci-fi/fantasy show that balances the two aspects very well 2) Endearing characters 3) Deep underlying messages about the importance of human connection 4) Constantly improves on itself 5) Writers actually try to listen to what the fandom wants 6) Creative setting 7) Actually handles difficult topics, like communication, privilege, and the cycle of abuse in a way that is sensitive to the audience 8) Ending is already set, meaning the show is not at risk of selling out to corporate overlords 9) God-tier foreshadowing 10) Top notch fight choreography 11) EVERYTHING IS A GUN 12) RWBY unambiguously avoids Depraved Homosexual tropes - no evil LGBT characters

13) No surprise plot twists for the sake of shock value 14) The soundtrack Not only does it slap, bits of lore and characterization can be found in the series music 15) Character design 16) Symbolism and metaphors and hidden meanings abound Can make for an enriching experience if you have knowledge about color theory and fairy tales and historical/mythological figures 17) Nuanced portrayal of morality between heroes, villains, and those who are neither 18) Layered writing where not everything, especially conflict, is clear-cut and easily resolved 19) Portrays trauma without over-dramatization 20) Production values improve with each volume 21) Hopepunk 22) Female-Centric main cast All the “Fix-it” fanfics and “Rewrites” involve Male-Centric Casts and/or taking time away from female main casts to focus on male characters, especially male side characters. 23) No surprise plot twists for the sake of shock value meets Thanos snap. 24) Good bits of humor sprinkled throughout without being overbearing 25) A few villians that while irredeemable, are interesting to watch in how they act. 26) Masterpiece of a comedy spinoff 27) You can legally watch the show for free 28) Subverts narrative tropes common to both "western" hero stories and anime 29) Gender dynamics and expectations are well-balanced Gender  tropes subverted, and addressed directly at times 30) Comfortably addresses class warfare, alcoholism, and other "mature" topics in approachable ways 31) Corgi 32) Combat Skirt 33) Women get to have pockets and pouches... 34) Women not requiring a man to save them 35) Large number of POC portrayed positively 36) LGBT are neither creeps nor villains, instead the straight people are. 37) POC are neither creeps nor villains as a majority...instead the white people are. 38) The “White Male Savior” with the mask, trenchcoat, and katana is the villain, while the underdog protector of the lower-income is a POC woman who may or may not be lesbian. 39) Meaningful facial expressions (that is, the animators spend time creating mood and reaction to elevate the storytelling) 40) Main antagonist is a woman, as are several of the other antagonists and they are NOT ditzes or idiots, nor are they fanservice. 41) The women are as intelligent as the men, where most anime try to have men be superior than women for the sake of shounen, the women are equal to men in screentime, plot relevance, intelligence, strength, personality, etc....though RWBY tries to have the women take precedence. 42) Men are support characters with their powers, while Women have more protagonist superpowers. 43) Positive half-sibling and stepmother representation 44) Positive honorary family member representation 45) Gay shipping and Lesbian shipping is encouraged by the writers and voice actors/actresses 46) The Main female protagonist's blood-based superpower is not broken or OP and has limits. 47) Well-executed humor (usually, ha). Basically trying NOT to make it fanservice or toilet humor or cringe. 48) Creators at least try to fix its less than stellar/problematic parts, which is more that I can say than the majority of entertainment. 49) Female characters are complex and interesting, also for the most part don’t woobified female villains. 50) Terrifying Villains and Monsters There is a difference. V1-V3 involved Monsters , V4-V8 involved Villains. 51) Every Character is based on a fairy tale/myth/legend/story and looking for those breadcrumbs just adds to the show 52) Already said, but emphasizing the fight choreography and the soundtrack. If you love over-the-top video game style fights this is for you. If you love epic metal playing over those fights this is for you. 53) Plays with tropes and story telling norms to subvert expectations in the best way 54) Not afraid to have tonal shifts to tell the story they want to tell 55) Not afraid to have the heroes lose sometimes 56) And plot points have consequences!!! None of this "bad thing happens and 1 episode later the status quo is restored" 57) Emphasizing foreshadowing again. Things that happened in season 8 were foreshadowed as far back as season 2. 58) The main characters are proactive. None of this waiting around for them to get up the courage to do something about the bad guys. Don't give me the “manor tea” stuff, they were trying to recover, Ironwood had it out for them and would have shot them for helping while refusing to obey him. 59) The Main characters are smart. They notice things (and come up with really cool strategies) 60) At least one villain does NOT underestimate the main characters 61) Everyone doesn't let characters use false justification for their actions regardless who it is! Everyone gets a consequence that fits! 62) Soundtrack is LIT 63) Gay Gay Homosexual Gay 64) Because I'm still on this, two autistic-coded main characters whose traits aid in their heroism! Ruby and Penny...possibly Marrow Amin 65) Kdin Jenzen, a Transgender VA, plays May Marigold, a transgender heroic side character who does not get killed off. 66) Chaotic teens saving the world with the power of stubborn optimism 67) Opposites Attract Tropes 68) Goth Uncle 69) Goth Milf 70) Himbo Dad 71) Non-sexualized Catgirl 72) Cat Cougar Milf with Tea Tray defeats Bat Assassin 73) Panther Dilf 74) Blonde Brawler Female who is also smart and can work mechanics 75) Female protag uses scythe and cape/cloak 76) It Portrays several different types of abuse ranging from romantic relationships to familial abuse along with accurately portraying them 77) Shows how harmful Alcoholism is 78) When/If a a character dies, it’s for a reason and isn’t for shock value Penny cheated death once...she would not cheat death again. Ozpin's immortality is a curse, and he is truly dead, a ghost. 79) One of the the main-main characters is disabled and isn’t treated as/seen as lesser 80) Male/Female friendships are a thing and abundant Normally if a man and a woman engage, its shipping, not friendships. But with Naruto and Sakura we have friendship. With Ichigo and Rukia its friendship....now that is abundant friendship in RWBY. 81) LGBT Voice Actresses Voice LGBT Characters. Kdin Jenzen is Transgender, Arryn Zech is Bisexual, and so are their characters. 82) All Romantic relationships, heterosexual or not, are given attention and emphasis on their interpersonal relationships 83) Balances tragedy and comedy, there are SEVERAL episodes where you both end up laughing your ass off and crying 84) Never goes all out depressing, the message is clear, it takes it to heart, and it shouts it for all to hear. Sometimes bad things happen. But you have to keep moving forward. 85) Has a variety of characters, each with their own themes/allusions (e.g. Ruby = Red Riding Hood, Team RWBY = Fairy Tale Characters, Team JNPR = Crossdressing Historic Heroes) 86) Amazing Music that builds on the characters' motives 87) You won't suffer vision problems after watching an entire cast that's blindingly white (shounen anime in general) 88) Gay doesn't suddenly die to leave heartbroken love interest Straight and angstily going back to the white guy who killed Gay out of possessive jealousy, which is super romantic. 89) Partners of dead Gays, should a Gay die, will not obligatorily be paired with someone str8   90) Character designs reference various fairy tales and stories, so you can get things like Mulan and Thor being a childhood friends romance, Beast and Beauty being one and the same and in love with Goldilocks, and Red Riding Hood maiming Cinderella, who is evil. 91) Everyone; good, bad, and the minor characters...are all hot. 92) You WILL get attached both to the good and bad characters. 93) All characters have very unique designs that fit their personalities and fighting styles. 94) Emotional/Physical Abusers get killed AFTER being humiliated 95) The Entire Show is full of metaphors and symbolism. The backgrounds, character clothing, the weapons they use... it's fun to analyze! 96) Stresses the importance of just being a nice person above all other stereotypical morally gray anime tropes 97) The people who work the the show. Seriously not just the main people; I'm talking about all the unsung heroes who do amazing background and scenery to sound design, etc. RWBY has some of the nicest, most hard working, and supportive crews I've seen. And considering the amount of harassment the anti-fandom can throw at them, they take and handle it so remarkably well. 98) Every character looks amazing from main to one-off. How their outfits convey who they are so well and sometimes subtlety. Also how the creators and character designers make it so cosplayers can have pockets on their outfits. 99) No  stupid twists for shock value, the twists that do happen are foreseeable but executed in a way that is still shocking. 100) Enjoyable Comedic Spin-off far better written than Teen Titans Go. 101) Awesome weapon concepts 102) Awesome growth of story, plot, and transition of it. 103) People hate it when you have fun watching RWBY....is that not enough?

Need to come up with a list of good youtube channels next.

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on jaune alluding to hercules type of thing hercules in the myth died by throwing himself onto a pyre ( burning himself a live due to getting poisoned by the hydra venom that burning alive was preferable ) which matches with joan of arc dying being put to the fire and ( I once made a theory about that hercules being jaunes second allusion and the whole zero to hero thing

( and the reason some people believed the original plan was for jaune to be oz's vessel was that they saw alot of similarities between oscars arc and jaunes and how jaune was rubys foil "not only are Oscar and Jaune pretty similar characters at their base (normal guys stumbling into unusual circumstances through a desire to be greater) but that many of Oscars traits (like his worries for individuality and his greater respect for individuals) make just as much sense with Jaune (his attempts to stand on his own are a form of individuality and Jaune would have suffered enough by greater plans here to naturally side with individuals) and Jaune was Ruby’s original counterpart whereas Oscar’s kind of taken that role."

Hi!

Well, you can definately keep coming up with headcanons when it comes to Jaune and Hercules :). Alas, as for now, I don't think there is much evidence.

As for Jaune, Ruby and Oscar... honestly the similarities of their characters prove nothing.

First of all, Jaune and Ruby's foiling is still going. I mean, volume 8 finale is basically an inversion of volume 3. At Beacon, Ruby arrives too late to save Pyrrha, whose death hits Jaune the most. In Atlas, Jaune is forced to kill Penny, whose death is probably going to hit Ruby the most. This is just an example, but I am fairly sure that by looking at Jaune and Ruby's arcs closely many other touching points would appear. The easiest way to explain their foiling is really that their parallel arcs comment their struggle with Cinder and will meet with her plotline in the finale. However, there is probably much more to analyze in terms of themes and structure. I mean, both characters are going through a hero journey.

Secondly, Oscar and Jaune having some similarities is really nothing much... All characters are similar and all arcs foil each other. Literally, Ruby foils all her teammates, Jaune and Oscar. Jaune foils Oscar, Ruby and Weiss especially. Oscar foils also Ironwood and Penny, etc. It tends to happen when a series is mostly thematic and structurally sound like RWBY is. No surprise here.

Thirdly, you are missing that Jaune wouldn't have worked as Oz's incarnation like Oscar does. This doesn't mean it would have been a bad plotline, but simply it would have been a different plotline.

By the time Ozpin dies and reincarnates Jaune is already a known character to us. This means his arc is already set up and the whole struggle to see him as a different person from Oz would not be there. Why should there be such a conflict? We know Jaune, the characters know Jaune. None would treat Jaune as just an extension of Ozpin.

Oscar is instead a completely unknown character to us, who gets dragged into the story through Ozpin. We are initially interested in him because he is Ozpin's reincarnation and he joins the group because he is Ozpin's reincarnation. This is a central part of his conflict. Can he be accepted as himself and not just another Oz? And who even is "Oscar"? The farmboy he dislikes? The Wizard who is fusing with his soul? Or a completely different person? Notice that up until the climax of volume 6 several of the characters still see Oscar as Ozpin, at least unconsciously. It is only after Ozpin's disappearence that Oscar fully integrates with the group and starts developing stronger bonds with others. This is a plot-point that would not have been there with Jaune.

Jaune becoming Ozpin's reincarnation would have instead needed to explore a completely different set of themes. Like Jaune's guilt over Pyrrha's death for example, which could have been treated as Jaune projecting his self-hate on Ozpin. Again very interesting arc, but not the one the story needs. In general, Oscar empathizing with Ozpin and not having an excessive antagonistic relationship with him also helps Ozpin get reintegrated with the group in volume 8. Jaune couldn't have acted like Oscar did in Witch and would have probably taken more to forgive Ozpin.

In short, nope I don't think they decided to introduce Oscar to take Jaune's place. This assumption imo misses as the story is structured as a whole and what it is trying to convey in terms of characters and foiling.

Thank you for your ask!

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