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Oh, no! They are blepping!

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Emo Charlie🖤

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i love her

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Naudline Pierre (Haitian-American, 1989) - Prayer for the Lonely (2018)

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Although the cinder I mostly draw is the unruly one, but the other way round?

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ZENDAYA as TASHI DUNCAN (2023). in challengers (2023).

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Puella Magi Madoka Magica - Production Notes New Edition IMAGE NOTE excerpts 

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LOVE DIVE

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The Girl Who Fell Through The World

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“The Girl Who Fell Through The World”

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New draw! I really liked the colours, he seems so evil, maybe i should draw him cute but it's good to try new things

(I have open commissions o.o)

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I made this sketch some time ago and still can't decide whether to finish it or not... (I really like the way Luci smiles in the series at this moment)

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Hello again. First, thank you for your answer to my request; it was very good and I liked it alot. And I was wondering if you can do a couple more. No rush at all, and I promise to separate each question. I just love Chaggie and I loved your analysis on them. But again, I won't rush you and I understand if you can't. So, I'll start with my first question to about the couple: According to their voice actors (sorry couldnt find link), Charlie and Vaggie's bond are at the core of the show; given that, how do you think their relationship will evolve in season 2?

My second question; like I explained in the previous question, I'm separating each request because they're pretty long. Anyway, my second Chaggie related ask if you could do an analysis of Charlie's reaction to learning of Vaggie's secret. During the trial, she was all confident and defiant but all that leaves the second Vaggie's secret is revealed; then the fight is gone from her. Her anger at Vaggie isn't her typical comedic anger or anger with her demonic form; it's filled with coldness, iciness, distance, and stoicness; it still hurts me a little whenever I think about Charlie's cold questioning if Vaggie would've told her the angels' weakness if she knew and then coldly asking if Vaggie was with "us" (her and Alastor). How despite having to deal with a corrupt Heaven, Adam's threat, and finding allies, Charlie is more concerned with how Vaggie kept a secret from her. How more easily angered she was because of it; and by that I mean how more openly annoyed she was at Alastor's taunts instead of brushing it off, rolling her eyes at Rosie's joke at her and Alastor being a couple, and flipping off Susan. It was just so...I can't even find the right words.

Last question. Something I've noticed that's very cute. When Charlie introduces Vaggie to Lucifer, she refers to her as "my girlfriend". This is totally fine but it may realize something - Charlie didn't also add that Vaggie was the manager of the Hotel. But when introducing the other Hotel occupants, she referred to them as their title. Just to make it clear, I am NOT bashing Charlie or anything. I just thought it was interesting. What are your thoughts on it? And as promised, this is my last Chaggie question for a while.

Hi!

Thank you for passing by again. I love writing about Hazbin and the Hellaverse in general, so thank you for your questions :)

I will answer them in reverse, if it is not a problem.

Something I've noticed that's very cute. When Charlie introduces Vaggie to Lucifer, she refers to her as "my girlfriend". This is totally fine but it may realize something - Charlie didn't also add that Vaggie was the manager of the Hotel. But when introducing the other Hotel occupants, she referred to them as their title. What are your thoughts on it?

I don't have many meta-thoughts on it. I think the choice was made because Charlie telling Lucifer Vaggie is her girlfriend and his reaction to it were the most important pieces of information that needed to be conveyed by the dialogue. After all, Charlie sharing that Vaggie is her romantic partner is a much more intimate detail than simply saying Vaggie is the Hotel Manager. In general, Vaggie and Lucifer's short interaction is full of information and details:

Charlie introduces her girlfriend to her dad - This is sweet, but it also gives us an idea of how estranged father and daughter are. After all, Chaggie have been together for three years by this point.

Vaggie's reaction conveys how nervous she is about meeting Lucifer. She is worried about first impressions of course. However, her covering her eye also foreshadows her anxiety to be outed as an angel.

Lucifer's reaction to the reveal is a strong characterization point for him. He tries to be supportive, but does so in an absolute weird way (as per usual). It is a sweet, but awkward interaction.

In short, a lot needs to be conveyed in very little time, so it makes sense you want to cut the unimportant stuff. All in all, Charlie saying Vaggie is the Hotel Manager would not have added anything to it. It would have meant nothing both for the audience and for Lucifer.

If you want to go deeper, though, you can say:

Vaggie's introduction focusing on Charlie's personal bond with her nicely foils Alastor's one, which focuses on Alastor's role as Hotel Host. In general, Alastor and Vaggie are two opposite influences in Charlie's life. So, their opposite introductions are interesting.

Charlie herself mostly sees Vaggie as her girlfriend. That is Vaggie's role in her life and how she wants her dad to see her first and foremost. It is something that simply comes natural to her. The same can't really be said for the other guests and staff. Angel, Pentious, Nifty and Husk all grow to be Charlie's found family. However, she initially sees them as her guests and staff. Vaggie is instead Charlie's girlfriend and only later on she becomes a member of Charlie's staff.

Could do an analysis of Charlie's reaction to learning of Vaggie's secret?

I am not writing a long analysis because I am planning a longer meta to explore this. In short, though, Charlie's reaction to Vaggie's secret is important because it marks the beginning of her character arc. As a matter of fact Charlie represses all her negative feelings.

She doesn't let herself feel fear, resentment or anger. She represses it all being a cheerful and optimistic persona. However, Vaggie breaking her trust makes Charlie's mask crack. She loses her living crutch at the worst possible time, when Adam is coming to kill all her loved ones. As a result, Charlie's coping mechanism shakles violently and we are able to take a glimpse at everything Charlie hides.

The self-loathing, annoyance and anger Charlie shows in episode 7 aren't things she feels because Vaggie kept a secret from her. These are things she always feels, but usually manages to hide. However, Vaggie is such an integral part of Charlie's life and self-identity that the moment she discovers Vaggie isn't who Charlie thought, the Princess starts doubting who she herself even is:

Charlie: She always supported me, and my ideas, and-and- and now, I don't know whether or not that was just more of the lies!

So, Vaggie is a catalyst for Charlie to take a glimpse at a part of herself she ignores, but that she needs to integrate. Her shadow:

This is why episode 7 focuses so much on Alastor and Charlie's relationship by the way. That is because Alastor is the character embodying the jungian shadow and he is both dangerous (he makes a deal with Charlie), but also helpful (he helps Charlie with the Cannibals). The shadow is both. It is one negative emotions, but also one's postential. That is true for Charlie as well.

Moreover, the reveal Vaggie isn't as perfect as Charlie thought is clearly foreshadowing for what will happen with Lilith. Here comes your last (first?) question.

According to their voice actors (sorry couldnt find link), Charlie and Vaggie's bond are at the core of the show; given that, how do you think their relationship will evolve in season 2?

Charlie and Vaggie's bond is the core of the show, as they clearly foil Lucifer and Lilith. I think the Overture makes it very clear that Lucifer and Lilith's story is important. Either way, it would not be told to us at the very beginning of the show. Theirs is a tragic love story, as it broke the world and the two are currently separated.

Charlie and Vaggie instead are framed as a new generation, who will repair what was broken. That is why the two girls foil both the Fallen Angel and the Demon Queen in different ways. They are meant to redeem the Devil and his Wife. In particular, Charlie as the protagonist must face and solve her complicated feelings for her parents:

Charlie: No, we just have never been close. After he and mom split, he never really wanted to see me. He calls, sometimes, but only if he's bored or like needs me to do something.

Charlie: Not that long, only...seven....years, off doing something important, I'm sure!

But Lilith's hope remained. And her dream passed down to their precious daughter, the Princess of Hell.

Notice that Charlie clearly projects all her parents' bad qualities of on Lucifer and all their good qualities on Lilith. Both Lucifer and Lilith are neglectful, but Charlie only recognizes Lucifer's neglect, not Lilith's. Similarly, the Hazbin Hotel is the embodyment of both Lucifer and Lilith's dream, but Charlie only mentions Lilith. So, she has to better understand both of her parents, if she wants to grow up.

In season 1, Charlie starts with Lucifer, specifically she discovers her father's hidden light:

In season 2, Charlie will have instead face her mother's shadows:

Just like she did face Vaggie's ones in season 1. No doubt, when the time comes Vaggie will be by her side, so that Charlie can empathize with Lilith and understand her, just like she did with Vaggie.

Apart from this, both girls need to continue their arcs:

Charlie has just made a first step into integrating her demonic parts. At the end of season 1, she needs the help of both Alastor and Lucifer (two mentors) to succeed. Alastor helps Charlie charming the Cannibals. Lucifer helps Charlie defeat Adam.

Vaggie has just made a first step into dealing with her abuse. She shows Lute mercy, but she is still harboring strong anger and hate. Not to count she has just started dancing and self-expressing.

So, both will keep inspire each other to grow. Also, structurally, I would say Charlie is the protagonist and Vaggie is the deuteragonist. So, they will both keep on sharing the screentime.

Thank you for your asks!

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