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nona-gay-simus · 10 months

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John, Paul and Perfect Lyctorhood

Here's the thing: I think One Flesh, One End is the wrong way to think about what lyctorhood is, or at least, what it ideally should be.

Think about it: John never had his "cavalier" die for his lyctorhood. And yes, the reason for that is because he tried to consume the Earth's soul and it was too big for one human. But more importantly: this was non-consensual and one way.

Presumably most cavaliers (besides poor Babs) choose to die for their necros, so that's a step in the right direction. And then we have Paul - the death of two people, melding of two souls to create a third. But at the same time Paul didn't really feel like "the best" of Palamedes and Camilla, and mostly felt like a stranger (despite the fact that they clearly have their memories). Maybe they are too new and still have to discover these parts of themself, I don't know but I think we can all agree we didn't like it and I think that's the point. Pyrrha said Paul is not the end but just "a step in the theorem".

Personally, I'm most curious about what Anastasia was doing. According to John, she "freaked out and couldn't get the soul all the way in" and that's why he killed her cavalier, but how reliable of a narrator is John? We know he has a bias and is trying to make himself look better so personally I think that if he isn't outright lying (and we know he's not above that) there's probably more nuance to what he admitted.

So I would like to pose the following theory: Perfect Lyctorhood is not about one person dying for the other, not two people melding into one. Instead it's a process of exchange where both people take a part of the other 's soul in themselves consensually. They are both split and whole at the same time. And I believe (hope) that is what Gideon and Harrow will achieve by the end of the series.

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novankenn · 4 months

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From Full House to Four of a Kind!

/===/ @ sirnoobsalot I mean May Zedong is a redhead. Neo could change her hair color on a fly. If you wanna go the Milf route Glynda is there, it's a good sequel since she'll be stopping this shenanigan (presumably) only for Pyrrha to hoist her over her shoulder and drag her back to her full house /== Master Post List ==/

The students of Beacon were giving Pyrrha a wide birth, with many red-heads and blonds donning hats or just dying their hair completely to hide from the "Red Queen" and her obsession with whatever she was doing with the girls she had already... absconded with.

Yang: I'm scared... like what if?

Blake: Pyrrha has already said you are off limits. You're my blond remember?

Yang: She's on the prowl again...

Blake: Well I doubt she'll... crud! Crap!! SHIT!

Yang: Blake?

Blake: The transfer students!!

Yang's eyes open wide, but it was too late. There wasn't enough time to warn any of them. It was like watching the circling of a shark as Pyrrha moved about the outskirts of the cafeteria, her emerald eyes watching, appraising, and then selecting.

Yang: Wish me luck.

Blake: Yang?

Yang jogged the short distance from where she and Blake and been standing to intercept Pyrrha as she prowled.

Yang: P-Money... what cha doing?

Pyrrha: I came to a revelation last night...

Yang: And that was... maybe you should stop collecting people?

Pyrrha: Heavens no! It was that four of a kind is better than a full house.

Yang: Four of a kind? You mean you're going to...

Pyrrha: Oh she's adorable...

Pyrrha points out a shy red-head wearing a beanie pulled down over one eye...

Pyrrha: How could I forget that Arslan was a blond! She's perfect! Excuse me.

Yang wanted to shout out a warning, but Pyrrha was upon her quarry in a heart beat.

May: (Cradled under Pyrrha's arm) EEP!

Arslan: (Thrown over Pyrrha's shoulder) NIKOS! WHAT THE HELL?

Pyrrha: You two are perfect! That's four of a kind for red-heads... but only three of a kind for blonds...

Arslan: Put me down!

May: Four of a kind?

Pyrrha: Hush! Jaune is very loving and will father so many beautiful children with you!

May/ Arslan: HUH???

Yang slowly made her way back over to Blake. As she and everyone else watched as Pyrrha started to walk off with two stunned young women...

Glynda: Ms Nikos! Enough of this! You are not only disrupting the peace of this school, and interfering with the composition of other teams... why are you looking at me like that?

Glynda took a step back, as Pyrrha adjusted Arslan and May, before taking a step forward, and strange unnerving smile on her face.

Pyrrha: You're... blond...

Glynda: Yes...

Pyrrha: Four of a kind!

Glynda: What? HEY! OUCH!

Pyrrha: Everyone comfy? Time to meet You baby daddy!

May/ Arslan: Baby Daddy?

Glynda: Help me! Call Ozpin! Call Ozpin!

Everyone just froze as Pyrrha walked out of the cafeteria. May Zedong under one arm, Arslan Altan over a shoulder, and dragging a panicking Glynda Goodwitch by the ankle behind her.

Glynda: (Desperately clinging to the door frame) Help me!?!? Please?

Pyrrha: Now, now professor... just think of all the blond bundles of joy you will give Mama Arc!

Glynda: Ahhhhhhh!!! Hhhhheeeeeellllllppppp!

Everyone shivered as the door frame leg go and the authoritarian professor vanished into the hallway.

Yang: Blake?

Blake: Yes Yang?

Yang: I am VERY happy to be your Blond.

Blake: Thank you Yang. That means a lot to me.

Off in a corner of the cafeteria silently sat a young woman. Her eyes narrowed as she watched the display of pure power and insanity. She titled her head to one side then the other. before standing up and making her way out of the cafeteria, hot on the heels of the one she was sure people were calling the "Red Queen".

#rwby #pyrrha nikos #may zedong #arslan altan #glynda goodwitch #this is all mama arc's fault

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nonasemporium · 1 month

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John and Colorism

John is Māori. He is a man of color, and he is coming from a society where he was racialized. Specifically, at least as a general consensus, his "faceclaim" in a sense is Taika Waititi.

Anyway, without getting into every facet of how I think the series and fandom engages with and addresses men of color, because that scope starts getting out of this specific topic and into a different one, I want to state that I think the relationship John has to both Alecto and to G1deon actually further represents themes of colorism.

John makes himself God. He makes himself god and to him that becomes some strange performance of western civilization roman empire 2.0 space imperialism planet consumption speedrun mixed w New Catholocism or whatever, but where there's a PERFORMANCE of equality where there actually isn't. Just like I argue John not ONLY makes new classes with necromancers and cavaliers (I'm not even getting into everything else with this), but ALSO he did not in fact shatter gender oppression, he just shifted it and patted himself on the ass for it.

YES it is queernormative and as a queer man himself, it makes sense this would be important to him, just like it makes sense for it to be important to him that race manifest very differently (go pretty unacknowledged really*) across his New Roman Empire in Space. But he has his own limits and biases and I would argue both colorism and misogyny are present for him.

He chose to make Alecto the way he did. And he had all of his own reasons for it, but surely it can also be noted how linked those reasons can be to both colorism and misogyny as well. I know he made her a specific barbie that had specific history to him, but does this barbie and his choice in her also highlight his priorities, just as blatantly as his choice of empire?

I need Alecto to come out so I can finalize some of these concepts, but it is still colorism for a man of color, especially one wounded by rejection (as we see in Nona) to see power in dominating a white woman. To see a SUBVERSION in the act of it. I think John sees a lot of things as subversion without seriously considering the levels he's actually engaging in. I think John is shallow.

Which brings me also to G1deon and Pyrrha. I think John had some concepts around their dynamics, their relationship, in their interactions that was in these same lines. I think John saw G1deon a specific way, I think he passively compared himself (including how he discusses it in Nona, again), I think the way he engaged with G1deon did not show solidarity or equality (G1deon was also an engineer!) but showed presumed superiority on John's end. Also he made G1deon how he did before he crafted his 10,000 year old weird empire. If I could put it into words more eloquently, I would, but I feel like John saw triumph in G1deon being Pyrrha's necromancer and I also think he then delegated him to "attack dog" for himself (as we see in Harrow the Ninth especially!!!)

I genuinely think 100% that regardless of if G1deon is racialized as black (I think he is personally), he is meant to be darker and racialized more than John was. And I think John subconsciously compares that! I think it is instead further evidence towards a narrative on colorism, including the way he's separate from Mercymorn and Augustine through HtN.

This is without getting into Pyrrha as a cop.

*I actually don't know if I should say "unacknowledged" here, because the cavs being almost always darker than their necromancers seems really notable.

#colorism in tlt #discussion on colorism #g1deon #gideon the first #john gaius #I have already said all of this but I wanted this one to be specifically focused on this segment #I never went back and got into Pyrrha as a cop but I just don't have the energy currently

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paradoxcase · 1 month

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Chapter 21 of Nona the Ninth

I don't understand why she did that? She knew it would be We Suffer listening and making the call on whether to shoot her, and that she would consider stealing Judith to be betrayal. I still have no idea why Camilla saved her here, other than just that Camilla doesn't particularly want her to die? Pyrrha had not appeared or said any codewords at the time she objected to the shot. Corona obviously wasn't collaborating with Pyrrha to communicate things to Camilla and Nona via codewords, I don't think she expected to see Pyrrha there at all and she doesn't know about the codewords, either. So I don't know what her plan for not getting shot was? Was she just hoping that Ianthe would take in Judith after she got shot?

This seems to be setting things up to say that Nona is actually Gideon, but I don't think that's correct, for numerous reasons. I guess we'll probably find out what's up when they get ahold of Gideon's body

I can't find this particular code. Going back to the beginning of the book, supposedly the code for "someone listening" was "fritters", but I don't see Pyrrha saying that anywhere in the last chapter

I did find these ones:

That's clever, I didn't expect those to come back, presumably the important resource is Gideon's body and not Ianthe's cigarette stash (does she still think smoking is cool after she decided to sacrifice Augustine to the Stoma? I wonder). But I don't think I would have been able to find those again without the Nook app's search function

Yes, they do give weird incest vibes

I'm surprised that We Suffer is offering to give them a shuttle and information on the Sixth House in exchange for Gideon's body - I think since she no longer has Judith, she no longer has a way to leave the planet and get to a place where she can use it to open the Tomb. Or does the wider BOE have a way to rescue them that they'll use if they get ahold of Gideon's body? It sounded like from what We Suffer said about the mysterious package she wants them to take with them that she is stuck

So yeah, John obviously made no attempt to resurrect Gideon, and it doesn't even sound like anyone is puppeting her corpse like Ianthe is with Naberius? I'd say he lost his mind, but I think we're going to eventually find out that that already happened 10,000 years ago at this point

I wonder if there's going to be some reveal at some point that John can't actually resurrect anyone, and whatever happened during the Resurrection was like, a one-time fluke, or Alecto actually did it, or something like that? Because he started out Harrow the Ninth telling Harrow that he can't resurrect the Ninth House because "the cost is too great" but it never became clear what he meant by that or why that was the case, and now he's clearly not resurrecting Gideon despite that being the obvious thing for him to do. I think there weren't any Lyctors other than Cytherea that died in a way where they could in theory have been resurrected: Cassiopeia was torn apart by angry ghosts, Cyrus went into a black hole, Ulysses went into the Stoma, and Anastasia wasn't a Lyctor

So the theory now is that they think Harrow would have reappeared where Number Seven is, and so they broadcast Gideon's body to get Harrow back? Except... during Ianthe's last interaction with Harrow's body, it was being occupied by Gideon. So maybe Gideon's body is also meant to lure Gideon in Harrow's body in addition to Harrow in Harrow's body?

I have no idea what the exchange is about

Was this like, 12 year old Corona suggesting making wards out of cum or something

Right, so obviously we're meant to interpret this as being code:

but I can't find any instance of "None" being used as a nickname for Nona in this whole book, and as amply demonstrated by this example, "none" is in fact a pronoun, which would make it confusing to be used as a nickname - it'd be like nicknaming someone "You" or something like that, there'd be no real clear indication when it was being used with its usual meaning and when it was meant to refer to Nona. So this seems like a really big stretch

Surely colored contacts are going to be easier to find than iris dye?

Anyway, I guess Nona is going to go pretend to be Harrow

#the locked tomb #nona the ninth

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g1deonthefirst · 2 months

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As a fellow Wake enjoyer, I think ppl should consider Wake/We Suffer more; Nona reveals that they had some kind of relationship and presumably worked together for years. But it's also really good for the horrors of love aspect: the woman We Suffer respected/followed/liked dies trying to free their people, and when she sees her daughter years later--the very image of Wake herself--she's on the other side

YES! YES!!! im a big fan of wake/we suffer and the complexity that that adds to we suffer's interactions with pyrrha. i think a lot about that exchange between nona and pyrrha where nona asks why we suffer hates her and pyrrha says she showed her that her god was a human who could fuck up. it also drives me wild thinking about what we suffer and pash must have felt seeing gideon's corpse — pash saying she didn't want to go anywhere near that thing when she's not even afraid of lyctors, and the way we know gideon is the spitting image of wake. i really hope we suffer and/or pash get the chance to speak to kiriona in atn, even though i don't have any hope that that conversation is going to be good.

#wake #we suffer #gideon #pash #pyrrha #tlt #asks

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I think it was you who posted something about why Christabel was described as so dumb in HtN yet seemed very articulate and sensible pre-resurrection and I just saw that post about her namesake poem where she’s cursed to not be able to warn anyone…anyway something something Christabel figured out/remembered something she wasn’t supposed to and to protect John or herself Alecto did something so she couldn’t tell anyone and that’s why she came off so dumb…what if the OG diy lobotomy was performed on Christabel Oct

I love the implications of Cristabel's name trivia! I love Alecto, but I'm also definitely on team 'She will make things WORSE'. I believe there was a valid reason why Mercy and Augustine were so terrified of her, and John and Anastasia (who liked her!) went along with locking her up. Pyrrha and presumably G1deon liked her, but tbh I'm not sure they're necessarily good judges of characters. "You have not begun to see the horrors of love", well, I think SHE is the horror. Alecto deserves it tbh <3

Though it wasn’t me who made that original Cristabel post! I know which one you mean but can’t remember the OP so I can’t link it. I think it’s a fascinating take but I’m also not sure that there’s necessarily a discrepancy between Cristabel pre-Resurrection and after; I think it could also be a case of narrative bias.

All we know of Cristabel in NtN comes from John, who thought very highly of her. He made his space empire Catholic-themed, he called her “sister”, and her thoughts on the soul were a massive influence on the work he was doing in the last weeks before the nukes. She also made him God with her sacrifice — she left a mark. We’re also told that Cristabel worked closely with Alfred doing some accounting detective work, so presumably, she was good at numbers. I don’t think this goes against anything we’re told in HtN.

The person who describes Cristabel as dumb in HtN is Augustine, who hates her guts. ("Did not have the intellect you’d ordinarily find in a sandwich or an orange, and was a sickening twerp into the bargain" Oh Augustine :D) He also calls her “a fanatic and an idiot” and I don’t think this necessarily means that she was as dumb as a brick. It means that she was a single-minded zealot. This lines up with pre-Resurrection Cristabel, imo. She shot herself in the head in front of a close friend who was already on the edge of a mental breakdown, in the middle of a massive emergency, with no warning and only a cryptic explanation, for no good reason.

Yes, she thought (and was right) that her death would help John find the soul. But at that point, none of them had grasped the full extent and implications of John’s powers, not even him. Yes, her death sparked John’s apotheosis, but they hadn’t known this would happen. In a moment where it was in everyone’s best interests that he’d calm down — if he had been lucid, maybe he could have prevented the shoutout in the compound! — she just went and pushed him over the edge.

TLDR: I agree that Cristabel’s name means Something and possibly Alecto did something to her because there’s no faster way to get on Mercy’s shitlist than fucking with Cristabel. But I’m also team Augustine. She was a fanatic

#ask #cristabel oct #tlt thoughts #tlt #listen. augustine doesn't remember being a scientist but he WAS a scientist #imagine trying to come up with science reasons for necromancy and then your worstie's bff kills herself based on vibes #john's apotheosis makes SUCH sense in hindsight that i think it's easy to forget that at the time he had no fucking idea it would happen #nobody did! not even cristabel had any logical reasons to believe her death would change anything #she still did it. at the worst possible moment #thewonderfulsticherofoz

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rwde-rewrites · 6 months

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This might be a controversial opinion, but I personally like the idea of magic existing alongside Aura and Semblances. I think the idea of a story having multiple distinct magic systems, especially if one is more powerful and mysterious than the other, is really neat.

But the key word here is "Distinct". In order for this idea to work, the differences between magic and Aura need to be clear. But, there are no rules for what semblances can do (Except not turning you into a bird. That is the sole rule of semblances), and there are no rules for what magic can do either. In fact, it seems like semblances can actually do more than magic in RWBY.

Semblances let people:

Enhance their physical and mental capabilities

Manipulate Luck

Create all different kinds of Illusions

Summon eidolons

Shrink objects

Turn objects into gold (Yes, really)

Telekinetically manipulate objects

Shapeshift into rose petals or iron (Only bird related shapeshifting is banned, apparently)

Absorb various types of energy to become stronger

Teleport

Turn invincible for 60 seconds (This is the weirdest one to me)

Fly

Mess with people's minds in various ways

Steal or copy other people's Semblances

And other stuff I'm probably forgetting

Meanwhile, magic lets you:

Fly

Shapeshift into birds (and presumably other forms, but we literally never see that)

Manipulate the weather

Shoot fire, lightning, and ice.

Create, lock, and unlock weird doors

Obviously, this is doesn't work. Semblances can do practically everything magic can and more. Meaning that magic doesn't feel different or special in any way.

So, what would need to be changed? The most obvious route would be to restrict Semblances.

One way to do this is just create a list of things Semblances cannot do. Such as:

Semblances cannot physically change their user's body. While we're at it, let's also add that Semblances cannot physically transmute other objects either so no shrinking or turning shit into gold.

Semblances cannot create fire, earth, ice, lightning, etc., only Dust can do that (God, I haven't brought up Dust yet). And anything that a Semblance does create is just an Aura construct that will vanish like Weiss's Summons or Sun's Clones.

Semblances cannot grant flight. A bit pedantic, but the scene of Amber first using her Maiden powers by floating into the air would hit harder if flying isn't something normally attainable in RWBY.

While I would like to add more stuff to the list of cannots, when defining a power system based on what is can't do, it's best to keep the list of restrictions short.

Another way to limit Semblances create specific categories that Semblances fall into and have each Semblance be some variation based on their category. For example:

Enhancement: These Semblances enhance the user's pre-existing capabilities in some way when used. This would cover stuff like Harriet's, Neon's, and Ruby's speed (And Ruby's would stay speed, none of that pseudo-teleport stuff), Ironwood's super willpower, Maria's preflexes, Hazel's pain tolerance or fast Aura regeneration (Pick one), and maybe Tock's 60 seconds of invincibility (though I still think that's dumb).

Absorption: These Semblances can absorb damage to make the user stronger. This would cover stuff like Yang taking damage and then getting a limit break, Nora absorbing specifically electricity, and Adam storing damage in his weapon and then returning it.

Manipulation: These Semblances allow their users to manipulate objects around them. This would cover Pyrrha's polarity, Glynda's telekinesis, and Neptune's hydrokinesis (which only exists in the books).

Constructs: These Semblances allow for the creation of constructs made of Aura. These constructs aren't permanent and disappear after time or if the user's Aura breaks. This would cover Weiss's glyphs and summons (though, I personally think these two powers are too different to be a single Semblance), Sun and Flynt's clones, Neo's illusions, Blake's after images, Vine's whips, and Elm's sticky feet.

Mind: These Semblances allow for the manipulation of the minds of other beings. This would cover Emerald's illusions, Ren's emotion suppression (In canon, it only masks your negative emotions from Grimm, but here, it would actually dampen your feelings while used), Fox's telepathy, Yatsuhashi's memory erasure, Marrow's freeze (here, it would be mental manipulation, rather than however the hell it works in canon), and Robyn's handshake of truth.

Any other Semblances in the show would be altered to fit one of these categories or cut entirely.

Finally, another option would be to cut Semblances completely. Instead, have Aura techniques that characters can use by manipulating their Aura in special ways:

Sending out sword beams of condensed Aura from their weapon swings to attack from a distance. THIS IS A CANON TECHINQUE. I want to stress this, Aura techniques are already a thing. Blake shots a sword beam at Roman in V2, and Qrow does the same to Winter in V3.

Leaving behind a physical shadow made of Aura to take a hit. At higher skill levels, these clones can even more and attack on their own, like what Adam did with his shadow clones in the fight against Yang in V6 (Which means that this is also a canon Aura technique, I guess?)

By expending a some Aura, people can temporarily increase their speed or strength in short bursts. Stuff like Ruby's speed would be handled with this.

Aura normally covers the body like, well, an aura, but it can be extended and manipulated. This allows for the creation of Aura whips from the hand or Aura anchors from the feat to duplicate affects similar to Vine's and Elm's Semblances in canon.

Aura can be used to activate dust (this comes from the Dust WoR video, which seems to be noncanon now) and manipulate its effects. This allows for technics like Weiss's Glyphs or that funky glass stuff that Cinder used in V2.

And finally, a secret technique passed down through the Schnee family allows the creation of an Aura construct that mimics a foe the summoner has bested (A mental requirement more than anything). While powerful, it is incredibly taxing on the summoner's Aura.

Here, Aura itself becomes the main power system akin to something like Ki from Dragon Ball or Hamon from JoJo. After awhile, the audience would get a feel for what it can do, but the writers would still have some freedom to introduce new techniques so long as they aren't too out of line with what's already been shown. Obviously, this would limit the collective abilities of Hunters more than any other option (and require the most changes to canon), but in doing so, it would could magic even more notable.

#Personally #rwde #rwby critical

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thoughts-of-loyalty · 6 months

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While I'm days late, and really haven't posted much in regards to RW/BY, I do have opinions about it, and wanna try to commit to making something, so I am going to get myself involved in Nitpick November!

I'm not that big a fan of Jaune, so I'll try not to focus too much on him for nitpicks, but his overly-large presence in the story does lend himself to being vulnerable to nitpicks, so while wracking my brains for these, I found myself coming to him.

So, anyways...

My nitpick (which is kinda a handful all tied to Jaune here cuz I wanna get him out of the way): Why was the full extent of what we're told for Jaune getting into Beacon that he had "faked transcripts"?

Like, how did he manage to get authentic-enough fake transcripts to get into Beacon? Yes, it's implied that Ozpin knew and overlooked it because he presumably saw Jaune's potential or something, but they fooled other people, so how did Jaune get something that looked authentic enough to not be immediately outed?

And related to that, does Jaune's family know he did that? They're all offscreen entities except that one sister, but we know he has a family, and given he's overall well-adjusted and never says anything to the contrary, one could assume his parents and sisters are all alive and well. Given he claims he's got a lineage of Huntsman in his family (dad, grandpa, etc etc), at least a handful of his family should be able to know he's got no access to his Aura (since Pyrrha is explicitly the one who unlocked it for him), so they had to have known something was up for him to get in to Beacon with no weapon skills or access to his Aura. Does that mean they helped him get in to Beacon despite knowing he was fully unqualified (including being involved in the faked transcript scheme), or did he just somehow hide everything from them for however long it was until he was already on his way to Beacon?

Not to mention him taking Crocea Mors as his weapon. Like, for sure, Crocea Mors is a pretty simple weapon, sword and shield is a pretty basic weapon and any kid with a stick or wooden sword could easily get the basics of swordplay, so I could buy how he'd have the skills ready for it before getting access to it, but how did he specifically get Crocea Mors? It's specifically stated to be a family heirloom, so his family would have to have noticed if he took it with him. So again, either they'd need to be in on his plan to get in to Beacon, or he'd need to have taken it from wherever it was so he could use it without permission.

It never bugged me enough to turn me off from this series (no, that came later), but thinking on it over the past half an hour before I got to making this really made me think "wow, the simple explanation we got really makes so much less sense upon closer examination."

#rwde #rwde nitpicks #nitpick november

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skye-huntress · 1 year

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RWBY Volume 9 Reaction

Episode 4: A Cat Most Curious

The Curious Cat is curious. Who’d have thought? It’s surprising at all that they wouldn’t go somewhere they’ve already been without the motivation of learning or seeing something new

Might as well say this now, I don’t care about Ciel. There wasn:t anything about her brief appearance that was particularly interesting

Is Yang humouring Weiss’ poor sense of humour?

Really confronting them with that seemingly impossible mission of stopping a witch, who can’t be killed and has all the time in the world, from destroying Remnant

I know you’re kind of going through something Ruby, but you should really keep paying attention to your surroundings and easily distracted guide

As was pretty clear from the teasers and trailers, the beings of the Ever After are all defined by their role, which is why when they meet someone new, they always ask, what are you?

We don’t know much about Alyx yet, but given how young she was and that she was apparently running from her own problems, she probably could only answer as “human”. Anyone who didn’t understand the true meaning behind the question probably answered similarly

The fact that Ruby always responds to relatively simple questions with such uncertainty is undoubtedly very frustrating for someone like the Herbalist who needs the information in order to fulfil his own purpose.

So, they are each confronted with versions of their past selves.

A Yang who appears “whole” and offering present Yang a chance to go back. But Yang knows her past experiences, the pain, the loss and scars, are exactly what helped her to learn and improve herself. Getting her arm back and erasing what happened would be a step backwards for her, it won’t bring her any closer to being the person she wants to be

Blake is confronted with the possibility of becoming either fully human, or fully a cat, without all the drama, suffering and adversity of being something in-between. Yet all of that is part of who she is, and it’s what makes her part of something greater. Becoming human or cat wouldn’t be just giving up on a part of herself, but severing her connections with her family and community.

Then there is Weiss, once burdened with the responsibilities and expectations of being a Schnee, driven with purpose to right the wrongs of her father and restore her grandfather’s legacy. But now she has the opportunity to wipe the slate clean and start over without any of the baggage and stigma associated with the Schnee name. The granddaughter of a hero and the daughter of a villain, both of whom have redefined what the Schnee name means to the world, and Weiss as a proud Schnee still fully intends to redefine it once again on her own terms.

Each of those three have reaffirmed their purpose as Huntresses, and then there is Ruby. Here is her younger self throwing back at her the same words she said herself once with such certainty and purpose. But her failures and shortcomings have shaken her faith, and not just her own failures.

Ruby looked up to her mother as the ideal of a Huntress and her hero. Yes, she died but she presumably gave her life protecting people and making the world a little safer. But the reality is, she made things worse, she helped Salem come up with a way of turning silver-eyed people from potential heroes into the most terrifying of monsters.

And what has Ruby done? She probably lost two of the Relics and an entire Kingdom lies in rubble. Every loss tips the odds even further in Salem’s favour, and she can’t even beat Tyrian or Cinder. She never thought she was any stronger or better than Pyrrha, Penny, or Summer, and they all failed and were cut down mercilessly. To her, they were the heroes, and she just doesn’t see herself measuring up, much less succeeding where they failed.

We got pretty close to Ruby agreeing to do something there will be no coming back from. She needs to be confronted with these insecurities and fears, but it doesn’t look like she’s going to be able to move past them on her own.

The Curious Cat intervenes, again. Apparently they offers some of their own heart to calm down the beings who lose a grip on their purpose. I’m sure there is a bit more going on here, and it probably relates to some of the changes that have happened to the Ever After

Hello, Mx. Herbalist? Could you please restore my angel from small to short so she can give her BFF a proper hug? No? We’re rolling the credit now? Okay, that’s cool, just remember to do it next episode.

#rwby #rwby9 #rwby9 spoilers

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itsclydebitches · 1 year

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Since Blake and Yang are together I’m afraid of how they’ll make Sun react when everyone meets up

Honestly, that's if he reacts.

To my recollection, post-Volume 3 there's nothing to distinguish the "Jaune lost someone who just kissed him, whom he presumably has romantic feelings for" plotline from a "Jaune lost a teammate and very close friend" plotline. Don't get me wrong, I really like the scene of him practicing in the forest to Pyrrha's recording, as well as the emotional beat of him incorporating her armor into his (even if the logistics of that are wonky), but it's not like we get scenes where Jaune acknowledges their last-minute status change, or where characters approach Jaune's grief explicitly through the lens of a lost crush. Without knowing we should read everything through a romantic lens, I feel like each moment of grief is generic enough to imply only a Close Bond. If Ruby lost Blake and watched a recording of her, got angry over who was responsible for her death, and incorporated something of hers into her arsenal, I wouldn't go, "Omg were they in love??" because none of that inherently has any romantic implications. In fact, I've wanted the other teammates to get some of those moments because they all supposedly do have that Close Bond with one another, but they don't, so The Generic Grieving Process is coded romantic only in comparison, heralded by the audience's knowledge that, yes, Pyrrha had a crush and kissed Jaune.

Ren and Nora are a little better both because they've had longer to tease the relationship (there's no doubt that Nora in particular is romantically inclined) and Volume 7 gave us a scene with her discussing one potential consequence of a relationship with her teammates: who is she without Ren? But on the whole, Nora/Ren is as self-contained as Jaune/Pyrrha is. They (somewhat) discuss the relationship with each other and the audience gets to watch it from our omniscient perspective... but the rest of the cast remains on the outskirts of their romantic subplot.

RWBY keeps the romance separate from the rest. Blake doesn't talk to anyone about the shocking realization that an old friend was in love with her. Yang doesn't talk to her sister about her budding feelings for Blake. Jaune isn't telling anyone about the kiss. Nora is barely acknowledging her relationship with Ren--and also doesn't bring up the kiss. Post-Volume 3 (because we did get a little of this in the early seasons) there's no teasing each other about a crush, or listening to romantic rants/worries, or helping to plan a date, or awkwardly third-wheeling. Ruby gets close while heading to the election party in Volume 7, but that's been recontextualized through Ren and Nora disagreeing about their priorities. She's uncomfortable because they're arguing, not because she's the outsider to their romance. Only the audience knows that argument is gaining fuel in large part because Nora is frustrated that Ren won't make a move. By the time that's finally acknowledged, Ruby had already left to be with Penny and the couple is "alone" (in a crowded room), firmly separating their romance from the rest of the cast. Then plot happens and we're eventually left with the question of how much the rest of the team knows about these developments. Jaune probably knows the most considering he has that awkward exit at the mansion, but again, these two have been disagreeing all Volume. Is Jaune uncomfortable because his teammates are trying to make up after a long fight, or because he recognizes that they're about to admit their feelings? I don't know.

Publicly acknowledged relationships in RWBY primarily come in two forms: 1. They're Already An Established Couple (Terra/Saphron, Ghira/Kali, Jacques/Willow, etc.) and 2. The Gag (it's funny that Ruby has to drag Weiss away from Neptune, funny that Jaune is serenading Weiss, funny that Qrow was undone by a short skirt, etc). Actually, I'd add a third category that only includes one pairing so far: The Plot Point, wherein others are at least aware of Ozpin and Salem's past relationship because it moves the conflict forward. Otherwise, couples are either already established to the point where they're no longer worth commenting on, a joke, or... ambiguously known to others. For the record, this feeds into the queerbait-y feeling of Blake/Yang. If other characters were overtly questioning their interest, or gossiping to each other about it, or even just given private moments where the audience watches them adopt a Knowing Look, we wouldn't have to wonder if a blush falls into the "It's totally happening!!" category, or the "Remember the Fairgame disaster?" category. The other characters would have given us our answer.

All of which is to say that Sun might not react. He might not be told, not unless we just assume that he heard it off screen. I mean, full agree, anon. I too worry about how they would handle Sun's reaction... but that feels like a far off worry when we first have to 1. establish that Blake and Yang are together, 2. incorporate that relationship into any other interaction outside of their duo, and 3. actually have the group meet up with Sun again (because at this point I feel like all side characters have the potential to be shuffled off and forgotten).

#rwde #rwby #mymetas

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yes, g1deon is the only valid man in tlt!( pal and babs are girls to me) i am rotating him in my head and thinking abt an au where he's harrow's mentor (they bond b/c she shows him how to pull off eyeliner)

okay first off im gonna apologize because this has been in my ask box for months then second im gonna say ABSOLUTELY. the better timeline where g1deon and harrow get to have a mentor/mentee relationship. i actually think a lot about this moment during the dios apate minor dinner scene:

solidarity!!!! he looks at her in solidarity!!! and also its honestly just so tragic rereading this moment from gtn after they get into the study:

it was g1deon and pyrrha's study!!! it was presumably g1deon's work!!!! in another life i think she would have enjoyed learning from him.

#the locked tomb #eskildit posts tlt #gideon the first

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asmallermorehonestsoul · 2 years

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Now that you mention it, what percentage of RWBYJNO even *knew* any grandparents? Weiss sure did, Jaune *probably* has, Oscar might...Nora certainly doesn't, and I have capital-D doubts about Blake (because persecution) or the Patch Megacabin Sisters (because cryptic traumatized magic special ops family).

HEADCANON/THEORY/RAMBLE TIME I have thoughts

Under readmore not to be annoying

First, Ruby and Yang:

Qrow and Raven are the ones I feel most comfortable theorizing here. I think they were taken in during a raid very young, and didn't have any specific parental figures given Raven says "the tribe" raised them (now whether their bio parents died before or during the raid... hmmm...) but yep they would not know much on that front

Summer... I am presuming she had at least one silver-eyed parent who was killed by Salem's forces. As for the other, I don't know.

Tai's I really don't know. Either the other Rose and Xiao Long parents are dead, or are very estranged/jerks not come help after Summer died. Neither is a good option, so it doesn't seem the girls would now much.

Weiss: Well, I'm sure she has met Nicholas and Nana Schnee (as dubbed by Chibi) but between Jacques' shady dealings and Nick's poor health, I don't imagine she saw them frequently. Jacques probably shuffled them off somewhere to keep them from interfering w his way of running the business.

As for the Gelés, I already made a post but to repeat, I could see Jacques ditching them when he managed to get Willow. I doubt the Schneeblings have met them (but I hope they are nice and do get to meet their grandkids)

Blake: I would have to agree that she has at least one grandparent she lost to violence... possibly the Faunus War itself since the timeline seems plausible. Furthermore it seems probable she travelled around often as a child with Kali and Ghira while they were active in the WF. So not many chances to know them. I made a post saying I think Kali's parents lived in Mistral based on a portrait in the home though. (I can imagine they got to say hello between Vols 5 and 6)

Jaune: He did have a line about his paternal grandfather in Jaunedice Pt. 2. saying "My father, my grandfather, and his father before him were all warriors! They were all heroes!" It's likely Jaune met him, but whether he died in the line of duty or is just retired I don't know. We also don't get anything concrete about his other grandparents though.

Nora: Yeeeep, I doubt she knew her grandparents given her backstory, even if she references her grandma in Chibi. I won't forget when a lot of poeple thought it was Fria though I suppose there is a question of how Nora and her mom ended up in that state to start with.

You said JNOR but I still want to bring up my headcanon of Pyrrha having only her mom, so no for her.

Oscar was being raised by his aunt. We don't know his backstory, but if his grandparents are alive they were not willing or not able to care for him. Any of those is as likely as the others.

I just made that post for Ren so yes, but maybe he met them a few times, or more frequently depending on how long they lived in Kuroyuri

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Pondering the current fates of RWBY Heroes

Inspired by a RWBY discord I'm part of, we're here to speculate on the fates of various RWBY characters! Spoilers for RWBY up until Volume 9 and related material like the novels, under the readmore.

Teams/Kids/Young Adults:

Team RWBY: Alive, obviously. The show wouldn't be the show without them! On their way to Vacuo.

Team JNPR/JNOR: Pyrrha's dead (RIP), everyone else is alive with Jaune en route to Vacuo alongside Team RWBY.

Team CVFY: Still active per After the Fall and Before the Dawn (Recommended reading. Seriously.)

Team SSSN: Still active in Vacuo per Before the Dawn.

Team CDRL: Nobody cares about them. But if we must. Their last known status was during the Fall of Beacon, Cardin was saved by Ironwood from being killed but beyond that nothing. Frankly, don't care to think about them either.

Team FNKI: According to the writers, they lived through the Fall of Atlas. Currently in Vacuo.

Illia Amitola: Cameoed in Volume 8, probably in Vacuo by now alongside the Belladonnas.

Emerald Sustrai: Defected to the Good side in Volume 8, finally. In Vacuo with the others.

Oscar Pine: Still with the others in Vacuo.

Penny Polendina: Physically deceased, again. Fate unknown and uncertain. Possibility of return not discounted, given she's been revived before. Whether reduced to a soul inside of Winter, or permanently dead, until the official word is given, nothing is impossible for everyone's favorite redhead.

Ciel Soliel: An unknown to the point where the Curious Cat even lampshades it during Volume 9. As Penny's team was disbanded, and her fate is uncertain, we can guess she might've survived the Fall of Atlas and is in Vacuo. Up in the air currently.

Adults:

Ozpin: Spirit form in Oscar Pine's head, currently merging with him.

Ironwood (counting him here, he started as one): Dead via Atlas' fall in Volume 8.

Winter Schnee: Active, new Winter Maiden. Yes, the jokes still work.

Schnee Family (Whitley, Willow, Klien): Still alive, in Vacuo.

Glynda Goodwitch: Last time we saw her was After the Fall, and as a shocked cameo circa Volume 8 when Ruby's message reached the world. She was there in illusion form in the JLA/RWBY movie. She may still be in Vale, or may be on the way to Vacuo.

Qrow Branwen: Made it to Vacuo, if the V9 epilogue animatic shown off at RTX 2023 is to be believed. Otherwise, last seen on screen during the Fall of Atlas in Volume 8.

Raven Branwen: Revealed via the Volume 9 epilogue animatic to have helped Team RWBY onward to Vacuo. Unsure as to when THAT happened.

Taiyang Xiao Long: Uncertain if in Vacuo, still in Vale, or on his way. Chances are, probably in or around Vacuo if Raven's there.

Robyn Hill + The Happy Huntresses: Absolutely in Vacuo, if the Volume 9 epilogue animatic is to be believed. Expecting them to help with the refugees too.

Pietro Polendina: Still alive as of Volume 8. Since Amity Arena was shown with the ships in Volume 9, it's assumed he's alive.

Maria Calavera: Presumed still alive as well, same with Pietro.

Ghira and Kali Belladonna: Alive, saw Ruby's message. Current status places them in Mistral helping the Faunus circa Volume 6, though as of V8 they got Ruby's message. Unknown as of now if they went to Atlas first, or Vacuo. Expecting to see them in some capacity.

Theodore: Still headmaster of Shade academy. Active as of Before the Dawn. Will arguably be the most helpful headmaster the heroes have had.

Rumpole: Still vice head of Shade. Active as of Before the Dawn.

Old Man Shopkeep: WILL. NEVER. DIE. But seriously. In Vale as of Volume 8 cameo. Will probably help with food or cameo sometime!

Zwei: Will also never die. With Tai as of Volume 8.

Summer Rose: Condition unknown. Subject still needs to be broached if really dead, or Grimmified.

#reblog #rwby #character fate post part 1 #my posts #to revise if remember anyone else #rwby spoilers

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Nona the Ninth, Chapter 25

(Curious what I'm doing here? Read this post! For detail on The Locked Tomb coverage and the index, read this one!)

(Slashed Gideon Nav icon)(1) In which we get to know someone familiar, again, but from the outside.

Pyrrha's gun goes ker-klunk again, and Kiriona turns to see her and greets her with "Long time no drown."

“Ninth?” said Crown, sounding almost nervous. Pyrrha ignored her, and said: “He brought you back. He’s made a revenant out of you.” “Yope,” said the corpse prince.(2)

Pyrrha is disbelieving. There shouldn't have been enough left, even for John, and then he only brings her back… like this? As a corpse?(3)

Kiriona interrupts to tell Pal to put away the syringe, before she breaks Babs's arm, but he says she's still holding him in place. She asks if he's going to stick her with it and run, but he asks if she knows how syringes work.

Crown comes back to interrupt again with her minor existential crisis about "the Ninth" being alive-ish. The corpse lets go of Pal, then sits up, and gets herself standing with surprising ease.

What shocked Nona was not that the corpse moved. It was the way in which she moved. Nona was so distracted that she couldn’t stop watching. She had never seen anyone move like that before.(4) “Nope, and nope,” she said. “I’m Prince Kiriona Gaia(5) the First, Her Divine Highness, First Lieutenant of the Cohort, Emperor’s Life Guards, non-auxiliary—honorary title but who cares—heir to the Emperor Divine, first of the Tower Princes. And I’m mega dead.” “John, you mad bastard,” said Pyrrha softly. She hadn’t taken either hand off her gun.

Kiriona runs through the list of those present with snarky comments like "Mumfucker Prime". Pal asks how long she's been awake, and Kiriona says, the whole time.(6) She's been playing possum,(7) very cleverly.

Nona was indignant enough at Prince Kiriona Gaia’s whole demeanour, but this last piece of self-congratulation was too much to bear. “I knew it!” she burst out. “You didn’t fool me—I saw you looking at me, back in the other room! You know, when I—” “Yes, congratulations,” said the Prince sarcastically. “No, babycakes, I didn’t fool you. Who is this literal goddamn infant? Can someone give her like a rusk(8) or something and shut her up?”

Nona opens her mouth to say "the worst thing she had ever said", but Pal gives her a pleading look, and says this isn't making sense. He asks Kiriona why Ianthe hid her away. Kiriona says Ianthe shut her off so she wouldn't screw up the Sixth House retrieval mission, and was very angry Kiriona stowed away on the mission at all.

Kiriona blows a raspberry, presumably at the thought of Ianthe, but Pal takes from her explanation that she rode through the River. Pyrrha says that's not possible, not with a soul attached to her.

The corpse prince tilted her head to one side, like a curious bird. “You haven’t been in the River lately, have you?” she said. “What’s that meant to mean?” “Guess you’ll find out at some point,” said the Prince. “Anyway. You’re going to the Ninth House, right? I want in.”

Cam asks why, and Kiriona says, why not? Nostalgia, maybe. Pal says if she's been awake the whole time, she knows what they're doing, and why isn't she trying to stop them, for the Emperor? Kiriona smiles, hungrily, and not nicely. She asks if Pal wants to fight her. Pal says no and stops Cam from advancing to do just that. He says he considers her a friend, which makes Nona angry that someone as good as Pal could be friends with someone as bad as Kiriona.(9) Pal asks what Kiriona wants out of this.

Kiriona considers the question, then says she doesn't care or want much of anything anymore, she just wants to be where things are happening.

“She’s lying,” said Nona instantly. With all the white noise coming from the corpse prince, she couldn’t tell exactly where the lie was, but it was buried deep around her smile.

Kiriona tells Nona to shut her stolen mouth, Cam tells Kiriona to watch it, and Nona's heart flutters at Cam's defence of her. Pal asks again, and Kiriona says what does it matter, she just wants to go back. Nona can't detect a lie in this, so shrugs at the others. Crown says they'll need her for their work anyway.

At this, Kiriona invites them to all come at her, and try to draw blood. She even offers her arm, when Cam twitches with eagerness to do just that. Cam steps forward deliberately and presses the syringe to Kiriona's skin, where the needle snaps in half. Cam stumbles, Kiriona reaches to steady her, then realizes what she's doing and shoves Cam away, to land in Pal's arms.

The Prince stared at them. Her eyes weren’t like Nona’s at all now: they were hard and dead and bright, like something that had been dug up. “My father has made my body’s bones denser than titanium plex,” said the Crown Prince coldly. “My father has made my skin turn away bullets. I am the perfect sword hand and the final expression of the art of the Nine Houses. Don’t you get it? I am the Emperor’s construct.” Pyrrha said— “Shame he didn’t get some spackle for your extra holes, right?” “Those are my speed holes. They help me go fast,”(10) said Kiriona quickly.

Cam asks what would have happened if she'd gotten the sample. Kiriona says her blood burns to ash instantly outside her body, unless it's sustained with thalergy. Pal gives her an odd look, and she says she knows, like, five necromancy facts now.

This comment makes Pal look like he's been slapped, but he shakes it off and says the BOE would cuff Kiriona "in about sixteen different places" if they knew she was up and abouts, and asks how she feels about that.

Kiriona turned her body to look at them. Nona couldn’t quite believe that they couldn’t all see it; but they weren’t watching, goggle-eyed, they hadn’t even seemed to notice. It was in Kiriona’s every movement—the bright, swift flexions of her arms, and the way she swung her legs, big and brash, and the weirdly easy, light grace with which she moved her dead body. Nona had never seen anyone so sad in her whole short life. It made her nearly afraid to die.(11) “Nobody locks me up anywhere,” said Kiriona.

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(1) Gideon, or Kiriona if you prefer, isn't quite herself anymore. And, this book in particular makes me feel real weird about what to call characters. Since she calls herself Kiriona Gaia here, until or unless she does otherwise, I'm going to stick with that in the notes, the same way I've been referring to Crown instead of Corona mostly, but leave Gideon Nav in the tags for consistency. I'm still of two minds on how to refer to the Lyctors and their cavs, given we can guess John changed their names for his own… convenience? amusement? But either way, Kiriona asks for her friends to use a name, even if she says it's okay if they still call her the other one, and I'm gonna respect her choice here where it makes sense to. (2) I read this as an affirmative (he brought her back) and a negative (that she's a revenant). It's entirely likely I'm incorrect, though. (3) This also contributes to my theory about Kiriona's displacement, from the previous chapter. I don't think John had anything to do with bringing her back, except on the genetic inheritance level. Even if she says something here that contradicts it, who's to say she's not either telling what she was told, or protecting him… or herself. (And, he may not have done the deed, but he would absolutely gladly take credit for it if the details are muddy in her memory.) (4) Move like what, exactly, Nona? What does her body language tell you? (I need to know!) (5) Kiriona is how the Maori language would interpret "Gideon" with the vowels and consonants native to it. (Think along the lines of that Hawaiian Christmas song, Mele Kalikimaka. Similar origin, as both Pacific Islands, but a different evolution since they split.) Also, side note, remember in GtN when Gideon said "I fealt the Emperor with every bone in my body." The SCREAM I let out on my first read when I hit this part. Also, Gaia, the feminine form of John's Gaius, even though that name was adopted later in his life, in his reign. (6) The whole time she's been on this planet… or the whole time she was gone? (7) Play possum - pretend to be asleep, unconscious, or dead when threatened. (8) A rusk is a small twice-baked piece of bread or cake, used in some places as a teether for babies. (9) Why does Nona think Kiriona is bad? Is it the lying? The anger, maybe. Put yourself in Kiriona's shoes, though: you've been stuck in a gilded cage, finally manage to sneak out on a nice dangerous mission to get the blood flowing in your actual corpse body again, you play dead for days out of boredom, and then THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE walks in your bedroom door and kisses you… then reveals she's an infant soul in your love's body and has no idea how much it meant to you or why. Anyone would be angry! (10) Twofold reference. Number one, The Simpsons 6x15, with regard to bulletholes in a car. It's maybe not exactly a meme because trying to search for it without knowing the specific reference to add keywords is a pain in the absolute ass, but it IS a reference. Second, in GtN, "They would have given her an interesting array of new airholes for speed." The setup and the callback. Bonus: I highlight a lot of quotes in my ebooks, and this one got not just a highlight, but a comment: oh fuck off lmao (11) Kiriona is the saddest girl Nona's ever seen... why would that make Nona afraid to die?

#the locked tomb #tlt #nona the ninth #ntn #nona the ninth spoilers #ntn spoilers #nona #camilla hect #palamedes sextus #coronabeth tridentarius #pyrrha dve #gideon nav

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