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#htn spoilers
scoobhead · 1 day
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hi welcome to the locked tomb. here's a crash course.
gideon and gideon are different characters
gideon and kiriona are the same character
gideon and pyrrha are different characters but in the same body (gideon's)
gideon is dead now so now the body is just pyrrha's
gideon is also dead, but not really? but also definitely
palamedes and camilla are two different characters who alternated between the same body (camilla's) for a while after palamedes died
now cam and pal have become one character named just paul. that's paul's body now.
harrow and alecto switched bodies for a while but it's ok they got better
alecto and nona are the same character
nona was in harrow's body but then she died kind of
alecto and the planet earth are the same character
dulcinea and cytherea are NOT the same character, but cytherea pretended to be dulcinea for a while (dulcinea was dead the whole time)
there are two different characters called teacher. one of them is god
god is actually named john but we all call him jod (to avoid confusion)
god isn't actually god
hope this helps!
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staircasecleric · 3 days
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Just finished Harrow the Ninth. What. What the fuck. What even the fucketh. The leader of BoE is a revenant named AFTER AN EMINEM LYRIC?? AUGUSTINE WENT TO SUPER HELL??? GIDEON IS JESUS????
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Reading HtN I was like: “aww, I see! This is all part of a clever scheme Harrow! What is your masterful endgame I wonder?”
And then it’s literally just:
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future-crab · 6 months
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Trying to break down that one part of htn like. There’s three characters in the scene: God, a teenage nun, and God’s dead daughter (who is currently sharing a body with the nun and is also kind of the nun’s girlfriend? They didn’t really get a chance to define the relationship before the whole dying thing). God doesn’t know his daughter ever existed. The nun has forgotten that she ever existed. The audience does know she existed, but they don’t know she’s present in this scene. The daughter knows that she exists and is here but doesn’t know that she is at all related to God.
And then God looks the nun in the eye and says “If I ever had a daughter, I’d want her to be like you,” and no one involved has enough information to know how fucked up a statement that is.
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danggerine · 5 months
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going insane thinking about the harrow and palamedes friendship. harrow, who has never met another necromancer her age forming a bizarro 3D chess rivalry while pal worries about her safety at every possible turn. harrow, who is up to her eyebrows in paranoia and secrecy, trusting the sixth house with gideon unconscious and hurt, letting them into the ninth house quarters unsupervised. if “i cannot conceive of a universe without you in it” is goth for i love you, “death first to vultures and scavengers” has got to be goth for i love you (platonic). pal’s first reaction when harrow comes into his bubble in the river is to scoop her up in a hug, and at this point she doesn’t remember anything about him because cutting out all her memories of gideon is impossible without cutting out memories of the sixth, but she still makes him a skelehand to inhabit anyway. when harrow’s memories are finally whole, she tells dulcinea she couldn’t face pal knowing that his pen pal girlfriend died on her account, but the next time she “faces” him, palamades’s soul is in someone else’s body and harrow’s body is full of nona’s soul. he spends six months protecting and caring for harrow’s body (and nona obv), believing in the possibility of bringing her back to it the same way cam believed in him. “god, do you know i miss harrow terribly.” and by the time harrow comes back to her body at the very end of ntn, pal is gone forever, fully pauled. the last time harrow and palamades see each other as their complete selves is in canaan house, alive and unlyctored. two of the smartest and loneliest people in the solar system meet each other in the worst of circumstances and spend the rest of the story dancing around each other as fragments of themselves, trying to care about each other in the interim but never fully meeting like they did the first time. a friendship made almost entirely of missing the other person. “do you know i miss harrow terribly.” god. i need to lie down
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the-butter-churner · 5 months
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the other day i was thinking about how the first time i read htn, i was waiting the whole book for a twist about john. specifically, a twist in personality i was waiting for him to 'drop the act', so to speak, and reveal himself as a cruel, intelligent manipulator instead of the most pathetic piece of man i've ever read. but then the twist happened, and it completely blew my mind bc even after the twist, he still is just like that. he exploded the heart of one of the few people who maybe ever really loved him, but he's still just like that. and that hurt even more. the aspects of his nature that briefly endeared me to him suddenly became repulsive and honestly insulting. mercymorn is right, how dare you sit on the couch and discreetly eat peanuts. how dare you tell the child begging you for absolution to get a hobby. he can't even do fascism right. he literally just exists to eat hot chip and lie and that's so INSULTING. it's INSULTING. JOHN GAIUS'S EXISTENCE IS SUCH A SLAP IN THE FACE.
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wifegideonnav · 9 months
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lmao just saw someone say that they were 20 pages into gtn for the first time and felt a totally reasonable violent surge of envy. like imagine getting to read tlt for the first time again. hey ive got an idea why don’t we just kill the section of my brain that r
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toweringclam · 2 months
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babydarkstar · 2 months
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god harrowhark’s harrow nova au is SO funny to me she’s literally like ‘what if i was a naughty nasty unfulfilled vow to my house 😫 and a horrible little rebel who climbed the anastasian monument to wield the chain of samael 😳 💪🏽and what if my father whipped me so bad for it that the adopted reverend daughter (gideon) had to intervene 😳🤒 and what if i bared my blade 🗡️in the inner sanctum 🫢to challenge ortus for the title of cavalier primary⚔️ because it’s my right to go to canaan house with gideon 😳😤 and what if gideon was actually the necromancer 🔮 and i got to protect HER instead 😳💪🏽what then😤’ like you can’t tell me she wasn’t also fantasizing about nona-gideon healing her wounds in the cold dark of her cell while she pretended to be angry about it. how long has this girl been materializing a role-swap au for herself that there’s layers of deep LORE
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andry-di · 17 days
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Pro tip: you can make a figurine with a kneaded eraser to figure out how to draw a pose if you are desperate enough
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coelecanthheart · 3 months
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Sometimes I just think about Cytherea in the beginning of the story, meeting Gideon Nav, with G1deons name, G1deons glasses, bright red hair and yellow eyes, and no one to gossip with.
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staircasecleric · 3 days
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After reading HtN, I have much less positive feelings about eating soup
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mayasaura · 3 months
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What if we're just a little off the mark, when it comes to Ianthe's goals? It does seem like she's trying to become god. Studying resurrection theory, energy transfers, trying to replicate John's stasis trick on those apples. But Ianthe has always either shied from or been denied the spotlight. And the path she's on starts with her specialising in Resurrection theory.
What was the Resurrection, other than the obvious? It was the first recorded act in history, the beginning of necromancy. Why would a girl playing power double for her non-adept sister want to learn the secrets of the Resurrection? Well, there are plenty of reasons, but one that comes to mind is to learn how to make someone a necromancer who isn't. The first necromancer had to have gained the power somehow, right? Can you control who is and isn't a necromancer, if you're willing to pay the price? And then there was the conversation between Coronabeth and Judith, where they as much as said Corona could be king, but for the lack of job openings.
Whether she knows it yet or not, I suspect Ianthe's long-term plans are bending toward making Coronabeth god. All because she didn't want to keep doing her sister's homework.
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scoobhead · 2 months
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in defense of john gaius i too often make references to things no one else around me knows and that's just when i exist daily in the world. imagine being a 10,000 year old immortal mangod and you're also the only being in the universe who knows what a rickroll is. i would go insane
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future-crab · 6 months
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But seriously what if my parent conceived me solely so I could be killed as a child to open a locked door and what if your parents killed 200 children so that you could be born to keep it locked forever. What if both of us were war crimes what if our parents saddled us with more pain and guilt and heartbreak than anyone could ever hope to handle from the moment we were born.
And what if we kissed about it.
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two characters having a biological daughter with each other despite having never had sex, being on opposite sides of a war, and really only seeing each other as representations of ideologies they disagree with was one of the choices ever made in tlt. perhaps even the choice ever. an anti-ship of sorts. not even divorced couple energy, not even lovers who hate each other energy, absolutely zero sexual or romantic tension between them. just two people who hate each other and have a child together. while having never fucked each other. beautiful
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