#rwby critical

[lara-prism-light]

I hate RWBY rewrites haters!

Sorry the show isn't perfect!

Sorry that some fans are not satisfied with the original story!

Sorry that some fans are more creative than the writers of the show itself!

Sorry that you have to complain that everything isn't exactly step by step identical to the original!

You guys complain that male characters are getting attention but you don't realize that this is exactly the same problem as the canon show!

Stop bothering or harassing rewrite writers!!! They just do it for fun and you can't just treat the show as if it were the most perfect thing in the world because it's NOT!!!

Arrg, I'm going to block everyone who hates RWBY rewrites because you guys only know how to complain about the same shit but refuse to accept criticism of the show!!

I like RWBY in concept, in execution the show is an inconsistent mess!! Stop treating it like it isn't!!

#rwby rewrite #rwby #rwby rant #fandom rant #rwby fandom #rwby critical #rwby criticism

[the-path-to-redemption]

I know you hate canon Yang but do you think she and Mercury could at one point bond over having been messed up by a parent that made them base their worth on their strength?

....Long Post Ahead

Anon let me tell you-

I fucking hate that people now believe Adam was Yang's foil because the writers fucked up. No, he's not. He's Blake's foil; they share the same story, and the same past, and everything about them was supposed to be linked together down to their fairy tale allusion. Whatever came out of making him and Yang rivals are bullshit ass-pulls.

Mercury was designed to be her foil; he has a grey monotone color palette and a very low-key, cyberpunk-esque fashion while Yang is in a warm-tone, bright-colored palette with a steampunk style that sets her out from others visually. She's mostly a boxer, while he's focused on kick-based combat. Mercury doesn't have a semblance and has to rely on his own skills, and Yang relies TOO much on hers and it becomes her double-edged sword.

Mercury has a terrible father and no mother, suffering alone in a home that took everything from him and forced him to kill. Yang might not have Raven, but she has a loving family who cares for her even when they're not perfect. Everything about them was set up to be a narrative of two people who could very easily become the other had the circumstances of their lives been different, but their actions had also led them to this point and they have to take control of their future now that a new chapter begin.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, should have changed this aside from the fact that MK and CRWBY are fucking stupid enough to make Yang wedge into a narrative that she DOES not give a fuck about even though she supposedly cares about Blake and her causes, but never fucking does anything for the Faunus or even talk to Blake about her goals for them. It muddles their characters (Yang, Blake, Mercury, and Adam) because now the writers have to make dumbass fucking reasons for Yang and Adam to fight each other when Mercury and Blake are right fucking there.

I made a post about this subject before here and the same sentiment still stands. I fucking hate it here.

#answered #anonymous #rwde #rwby critical #anti rooster teeth #mkek critical #crwby critical #anti crwby #yang xiao long critical #mercury black critical

[iceaura39]

So, I’ve noticed a common topic among my fellow RWDEsters is RWBY lying to Ironwood. I wish to make a post about that, but before I do that, I’d first like to wrap my head around why she did that in the first place. Anyone willing to help a brother out?

#rwde #rwby critical #ruby rose critical #rwby #confused

[papillaee]

Almost every woman that gets involved with Jaune and is an important part of his development literally falls into the fridging a woman trope (where a female character dies to serve as motivation and to develop a male character) and you're gonna tell me Jaunes writing isn't misogynistic???? Like COME ON

#rwde #rwby critical #isa.txt

[tocomplainfriend]

Can I be honest? I feel kind of guilty that Alastor is one of my favorite Hazbin characters, considering he is a racist stereotype of Creoles and Vodou practitioners. I just want to take him and completely rework his character into something less lazy and offensive. I love his personality and his backstory could potentially be very interesting and unique, but Vivzie is so bad at writing any sort of marginalized character that she always just ends up making offensive stereotypes. At this point I feel guilty that I even like her shows to begin with since they're just so full of stereotypes!! ;_;

That you are aware of the problem is amazing already! It's difficult to consume many pieces of media with these problems. It doesn't make you a bad person to still enjoy part of it, as much as you knowledge of the serious problems it has.

I enjoy a lot of characters and concepts in Helluva and Hazbin- that's why it makes me sad, all the bad stuff that it has. But I did like Millie before unhappy campers. I know the amount of effort the animators pun on it. I like Tom and Katie. I love Nifty and Sir Pentious. But there are bad and hurtful things important to point out and criticize.

Also, where there are problems, there is always an opportunity for people like you to create something good upon it. The amount of beautiful redesigns are crazy.

(either way I'm not watching Hazbin in Amazon Prime lol)

Take Aggretsuko for example, I really liked the series (before the final season). But how they dealt with many problems, it wasn't good. The way they develop Haida and Retsuko's relationship was awful. Haida needed therapy, not a screaming match. They tried to deal with the problem of Homelessness, they drop the ball on that one.

I also liked so much about the potential of rwby, but God damn. The tournament part of the story and what happen in it WAS CRAZY. But it has many flaws in writing, many having a bad take on racism and discrimination.

I love Dragon Ball and like Naruto. It doesn't delete how bad the pervert jokes were. -And the problem it has had with writing female characters and otherwise.

-and so on and so forth.

#vivziepop critique #vivziepop critical #helluva boss critique #helluva boss criticism #hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critique #aggretsuko critical #rwby critical #anime critique

[lucky303]

look man idk how to title this but

if anyone tries to tell you RWBY is a progressive show with LGBTQ+ characters and representation just remember that rooster teeth wasn't a very progressive company that didn't like LGBTQ+ employees

#rwde #rwby criticism #rwby #rwby critical #lgbtqia #rooster teeth

[invested-in-your-future]

Why do you think RWBY v1-3 worked compared to the rest of it?

Hm.

Honestly a lot of the first three volumes doesn't - the pacing can be awful (and grinds to a halt within arcs dealing with Jaune), the writing decisions leave a lot of to be desired(and are beyond offensive at times).

To say what the first three volumes do well is to talk about what the volumes after dont.

The issue with V4 and onward is simple one:

Too many new redundant characters

I have been hammering on this point again and again - in a weird attempt to expand the world, the showrunners ended up filling it with things that overlap win purpose or outright have no purpose.

Generally if you want to have something happen and want to choose between existing character and new character as initiator, nine times out of ten it's better to go with an existing character.

For example, why did we need Salem's evil council of evil? Why did we need a whole team of villains on Salem's side that essentially fulfill same role and purpose as Cinder's group already did? They don't exactly do anything for the lore or the setting and most of their purpose is one-note - Hazel for example exists just to rage about Ozpin in a poorly executed attempt at making his intentions and role more ambiguous - but there are already plenty of characters who can fill that purpose, so why was Hazel, as a character made? Raven exists, Ironwood exists and is clearly having a crisis, even Haven's headmaster exists (let's say he does) - plenty of ways other characters can fulfill the same purpose as Hazel without Hazel existing. Same extends to the rest of Salem's group - Watts exists solely to "explain" the computer virus (why did we need it explained?) and to have a reason to go against Atlas (but Cinder already has a reason thanks to her backstory in-show???) and Tyrian is the same way.

Too many redundant story beats

The writing attempted to make the setting more complex, but in the end a lot of what's added has no real reason to be there - why do we need Relics when Maidens are already there? Even if we were to go with the same idea of Gods causing doomsday(as dumb as it is) the writing could just as easily have the exact same plotline with collecting Maiden powers, for example. So why have vaults and then relics on top of that?

The Gods are the same way too. Why have Gods at all when you can already comfortably just go with the idea of Salem getting Maidens powers to her side being just as catastrophic? Salem's backstory doesn't even need them - in fact if one were to remove the Gods and keep the backstory the same, the end result would be exact same story. But the show doesn't do that - instead, come V9, it adds ANOTHER layer of gods and magic trees and gives the god brothers a backstory that ALSO wasn't needed and doesn't do ANYTHING in terms of furthering the narrative.

Generally if there's a plot thread you'd want to do the first question to ask would be "Does this change ANYTHING for any of the characters?" - plot is an excuse to get characters through the story beats after all. In the case of God Brothers, the plot thread invents a new problem and then solves it - nothing changes.

Lost Focus

The show is titled RWBY for a reason.

Ruby, Weiss, Blake, Yang - that's the core of the show.

The show started with the color trailers focusing on them and their journeys. The Volume 3 ended with them each having their own issues to deal with and plot threads tying to those issues.

What do the Volumes that follow do with that set-up? Nothing.

Volume 4 is absolutely pointless in grand scheme of things.

Volume 5 is absolutely pointless in grand scheme of things.

Volume 6 is absolutely pointless in grand scheme of things.

In fact, I wrote about the story structure issues with V4 years ago

The narrative structure, at the basic level, is a game of Connect-the-Dots - you have specific story beats you want to reach that work in accordance with overall story and character outline - it's up for The Plot(tm) to lead the characters from one beat to the other.

The way RWBY works past V3 is by inventing a new problem that didn't and then resolving it, essentially staying in place. I sort of outlined it in the V4 structure chart in my write up in how nothing in that Volume serves any real purpose nor furthers the characters.

What does the mess at Haven Academy contribute to the story story that Beacon already haven't? Does what happen there affect the story going forward? No.

What does team RWBY and the whole absolutely dumb and boring mess with the mech and leviathan do for the story? Are there any lasting consequences from that happening? Nope.

What does the run-in with the Apathy do for the characterization? Are there any lingering psychological effects? Do we learn something new about how Grimm function or how the Eyes work? Are there any lingering implications or any story holes that the encounter slots in into? Absolutely nothing.

That's three big examples in those Volumes where the writing invents a new issue, resolves it and doesn't further characters or narrative by doing so.

In Connect-the-Dots, you don't stop hopping from dot to dot midway-through, you don't hop back and forth between existing dots. Story beats and character beats are beats for a reason - they move things forward, they affect things, they alter things. If you have something that leads the narrative back at the place it was before in then you might as well delete the entire thing.

Now this is not the same as characters being stuck in loops or the idea of repetition as storytelling device - repetition that the narrative is aware of WOULD be a story beat in on itself and this is not that.

In fact even going into Atlas arc - the endgame has almost nothing to do with the build up to it and would happen anyway even if most of the volumes leading to it were removed.

Anticlimactic Payoff

If the narrative is build up to something, the pay off should generally equal to the amount of time and focus spend on the build up (unless it's used as a contrast).

Yet in RWBY a lot of mysteries end up being more of matter-of-fact answers than revelations.

What happened to the moon? Oh something crashed into it.

Why are Ozpin and Salem the way they are? Gods did it.

Why is Raven angry at Ozpin? He...turned her into a bird?

What has been Raven up to? Nothing.

Is Ozpin shady or not? Eh, not really - he's just sort of there.

What's up with the creatures of Grimm? Gods did it.

All of these were teased and built up going forward and the actual revelations never justified the build up or teasing that came before.

None of those revelations did anything to further the narrative or develop characters.

It was as if the writers were going through a checklist of what needs to be revealed.

So, What about the first three Volumes?

Now, flip everything I wrote about V4 and onward upside down.

That's the first three Volumes.

The only characters that exist are the ones that have an use within the narrative.

The plot threads are revealed when they become relevant - Mt.Glenn comes up when it matters, for example. If anything there's not enough reveals.

One can easily trace the plot threads through the story - how Ruby's introduction to Beacon affects her dynamics with Weiss, how Jaune's and Ruby's struggles with unexpected positions of leadership affect the team formation, how the friction within the teams furthers the plot to crash into villains goals. And what's more - each mini-arc ties to the four leads and their characterization. Things don't just happen - each storyline starts with the character and ends with characters growing or their relationships changing.

The Payoff is extremely good - V3 takes every single thing the show did through the three volumes and makes use of it. Everything matters - Mt. Glenn exposition, Roman, WF stuff, Jaune's insecurities, Pyrrha's characterization, Yang's characterization, Blake's conflict, Ruby's growth and position int he story, Weiss growth, etc - everything gets used and everything affects the characters involved.

For all the flaws, for all the absolutely insensitive story decisions and bad jokes - the first three volumes manage to handle those key points well and the end result is far more enjoyable.

The volumes after don't.

While good action sequences helped one of many reasons I hold V1 through V3 dear to my heart is because the show pulled off something that was quite rare back then when those Volumes aired - delivering actual consequences and not being afraid of upsetting the status quo within the story.

#rwby #rwde #rwby v3 #rwby v4 #Ruby Rose #rwby meta #rwby meta stuff mine #rwby critical #rwby criticism

[fanstuffrantings]

Some Adam redesign concepts. I wanted to lean into him actually being a bull faunus.

I'm struggling on an outfit for him because the old one wasn't working with this design. Note: his and Blake's dynamic in this rewrite is familial not romantic.

#moltentarts #rwby #rwby rewrite #adam taurus #blake belladona #rwby critical #the concept of him charging at people in the battle of beacon/argus battle is terrifying #to me anyway #rwby redesign #digital art #sketch #rwby fanart

[snowowlll]

worst fandoms on earth award nominees!

#anti rwby #rwby critical #rwde #anti ofmd #ofmd critical

[doomalade]

Not to mention both Viv and roosterteeth treats their trans workers horribly, Both of their shows have badly done representation which their fans will overly praise as perfectly written and gets mad if you dare to point out the rep isn’t perfect

Viv’s literally just being recoloring horns to change the width of the stripes which isn’t only lazy but crazy that the one major feature saying what they were assigned at birth as isn’t ever like, covered up or changed? Do no trans imps ever like try to like get something where their horn stripes are changed? It just feels weird that by keeping this method of telling what sex an imp was born as kinda messes with their gender identity?

What about non binary or gender fluid or gender queer imps and demons?

But yeah overall it’s like Viv wants the brownie points for having trans characters while also having a way to quite brutally point at them with basically a neon arrow and they’re only background and meant to fill up the screen as the main characters do the actually important things.

And Sallie May showed up once, spoke like five words, then was stuck to the background for the rest of that episode and then isn’t seen or mentioned again and I doubt she will be.

As for RT?

The shit that former employees especially Kdin came out with?

I’m gonna go ahead and say that May isn’t gonna speak or really even show up in V10 if that somehow magically is able to be made before RoosterTeeth officially declares bankruptcy.

And how can I forget how the only non binary characters are a random boat crew person from V4 and a bunch of talking animals in a magical land that is never gonna be seen again.

And the stans insist that Viv or RT are some saints and super progressive and trans positive.

Like pointing at a picture of a duck and saying “it’s a giraffe”

#doom.txt #rwby #helluva critical #helluva boss #vivziepop critical #rooster teeth critical #rwby critical

[rwde-rewrites]

I think the funniest way that we could learn about RWBY being canceled would be Death Battle announcing Ruby Rose Vs. Maka Albarn (They said they wouldn't do the fight until RWBY ended).

#rwde #rwby critical

[ironwoodprotectionsquad]

So multiple times throughout the commentary the writers talk about cutting “unimportant” things in the episodes to ensure only the “important” things stayed…. Like WBY happily hugging Jaune instead of being worried about Ruby, or Jaune seeing Alyx in the midst. It just is so strange to me that a volume that’s supposed to be about team R/WBY focuses so much in Jaune especially when Ruby’s life is in danger and everyone should be worried about her.

#rwde #RWBY critical #rwby critique

[the-path-to-redemption]

This day can't can't getting better because according to the leaks Vacuo was going to be a colonized nation!

And you know what else? The writers were going to make the "oppressors" be wrong and bad because they don't like they fact they are being colonized.

Now I'm not to sure if this was the finalized storyboard but if it was......may they all burn in hell. Cause wft is this shit!!!!

Pretty sure stans will eat this story arc up and trying to justify why colonizers were actually good people who had good intention when colonization brings nothing but pain and trauma

Oh fuck me, they're gonna colonize Vacuous again...what the hellllllllll.

Yes, I said again because Vacuo WAS colonized. BY ATLAS. That was a canonical event that caused the Great War, and got Weiss' family to become fucking tycoons. The exploitation and colonization of Vacuo 80+ years ago was a crucial part of Atlas' domination in technology and Dust production, as well as the monopoly that the Schnee Dust Company controlled.

And let's be honest here, bby, was any of us surprised that CRWBY is planning to make an oppressed group the bad guys for not being nice enough to their oppressors?

You know, LIKE THEY DID WITH THE WHITE FANG AND THE FAUNUS.

Of course the stans would eat it up. They DID. On multiple occasions. That's why I'm glad that fucking bitch of a company is 8 levels of hell under.

#answered #anonymous #rwde #rwby critical #anti rooster teeth #fndm critical #racism in fandom #racism in media #anti miles luna #mkek critical #anti crwby #crwby critical

[randombook4idk]

RWBY: Penny isn't a human girl, but a robot girl. She even tells Ruby she isn't a real girl because of this, but Ruby reasures her by saying she is, because her being made from metal parts doesn't make her less real than her. Penny is a real girl no matter what, even if her body is metal.

Also RWBY: We made Penny human. Ambrosius wonders what will be left of her once he removes the metal parts, since y'know Penny is a robot. Team RWBY are not concerned about this, because the real Penny is underneath her metal body - her soul :) Penny's body isn't part of her identity of who she is, it's just an extra, like Yang's arm, who is the one to call metal parts an extra :)

RWBY: A character named Winter Schnee with icy personality is planned to become the next...wait for it...Winter Maiden. But instead of that happening, Penny inherits the powers, becoming the next Winter Maiden.

Also RWBY: Winter becomes the new...wait for it...Winter Maiden after Penny dies. Who would have seen that coming?

RWBY: Ruby cares about Penny very much and was horried by her death and despite not knowing her for too long, calls her a friend.

Also RWBY: Ruby along with others, pass by Penny with virus body, not paying much attention to it, not being bothered to see it wither away. Who cares, the REAL Penny is next to them :)

#rwde #rwby critical #rwby criticism

[papillaee]

It baffles me seeing that some RWBY fans seem more angry and sad about the death of a company and the possible end of a fictional show than they were back when RT was exposed for abusing their employees.

These people have such a parasocial relationship with RT that they also have to blame other company above them for closing it down. "It's Warner Bro's fault 😭" no it was still RT's faults because they literally admitted they weren't making much money from their ip's. They're incompetent idiots and bigots who also rightfully got boycotted by many people. It's not suprising they lost money, at all.

#rwde #anti rooster teeth #rwby critical #rooster teeth shutdown

[madmanwonder]

“Weiss is already perfect in combat.” Lmao.

#my post #rwby #rwby shitpost #rwby critical #weiss schnee #myrtenaster