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ghostampede · 1 year
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the worst thing about making off theories is that according to mortis ghost apparently the batter is somehow not actually a representation of the Father for hugo which throws a wrench into like 99% if my theories. my current hypothesis is that the batter is a manifestation of hugo’s illness and that he takes the form that he does because hugo associates his father with his own illness but the batter does not actually represent the father. he is the illness destroying hugo and bringing him to his death. i actually have ways i connect this to the post apocalyptic world, the guardians and their zodiacs, the role of zacharie and sugar, and some other stuff but i am tired so i will save that for another day
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lavenderlattefox · 2 years
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Personality Connections between the Guardians and their Zodiac Signs
Hi fellow OFF fans, 
It’s been a while cause I was busy with school but now that it’s summer I can post more! So, I thought I’d start off my activity with basically diving into the three Guardians’ connections with their zodiac cards; specifically, zodiac signs and their personalities. Now I know that a lot of people write off zodiac signs as unreliable nonsense but I find it interesting personally and idkkk I may be going crazy but so far zodiac signs have been fairly accurate at describing some people I’ve met sooo let’s hop into it. I will be basing all my assumptions based on this book: “The Signs: Decode the Stars, Reframe Your Life” by Carolyne Faulker. It’s a pretty interesting read even if you don’t believe in Zodiac signs, well at least I had fun reading it. (SPOILER WARNING) Naturally, this post will spoil a large amount of OFF’s lore and story, so if you don’t want to be spoiled, please don’t read until you’ve experienced OFF in the way you want to experience it.
First off, we have Dedan, Guardian of Zone 1. When you defeat him, he drops his zodiac card, the Cancer card. Now, every sign has good traits and bad traits, and if a person exhibits more bad traits than good traits they can be very different from our usual expectations of that sign. I say that because a lot of people think of the Cancer sign as kind, sensitive, and nurturing, all things that our current Dedan is not. ‘Gone Wrong,’ as the book puts it, Cancer signs can be unforgiving, slow to trust anyone, over-ambitious, over-sensitive, and insecure. Dedan appears to exhibit most if not all of these traits. He cannot stand the thought of anyone other than himself being competent at defending Zone 1 from specters, as we can see from the scene at the barns with an Elsen: “And why does he think he's capable of destroying those stupid phantoms?” He is so overly sensitive of anyone being rude to him that he spits at the Elsen, “I'll be returning to Alma. At least the people there are polite. They ain't constantly cutting you off" despite the Elsen simply trying to explain the situation. He is overly ambitious in that he expects all employees in his “company” to be extremely productive and efficient and also in that he believes himself the only one in his zone who should defeat the specters. Also, Dedan is extremely slow to trust; he is extremely distrustful of the Batter, believing him to be a specter despite the Batter never directly harming normal workers of this zone. In fact, he outright threatens to kill the Batter. Whether he knows the Batter’s true nature and aims to stop that or if he is simply paranoid is still up for debate; however, Dedan does exhibit many of the negative signs of a Cancer ‘Gone Wrong.’ (It’s also interesting that flashback Dedan showed a lot of positive Cancer aspects to Hugo.) 
Next, we have Japhet. Japhet possesses the Pisces card, a sign known for perception, spirituality, and connecting with nature. Looking again at the negative traits of the Pisces sign, we see Pisces ‘Gone Wrong’ can be flaky, overly-strong willed, sensitive, and having a fierce temper. The book I am referencing from notes, “Pisces rarely walk the middle ground: you are either the most reliable and committed people or simply flaky!” Japhet was certainly one of if not the most committed Guardians to his zone, as a book in Zone 2′s library reads, “"He was constantly on his feet, doing his best to provide safety and peace to his subjects." Japhet is certainly more on the committed side (even in his rampage) rather than flaky, so we’ll move on to the other traits. In fact I think he is more overly-strong willed than flaky, in my interpretation. However, Japhet is certainly sensitive. When he fails to gain his peoples’ recognition and gratitude, he falls into despair and curses the people he once protected. I guess maybe this could be interpreted as a reasonable reaction to being forgotten to the people you once dedicated your life too, but perhaps another reaction could’ve been to ignore and forget the people or even stage events to make yourself known again. But, Japhet does lash out at the batter upon meeting him for no other reason than to inflict his wrath. And I think it’s safe to say that Japhet does have an explosive temper. 
Third comes Enoch. Enoch, the Guardian of Zone 3, keeps the Aquarius card. Aquarius’ “bad” traits include controlling, difficult, contrary, emotionally detached, prone to extreme views, and elitist. We don’t have much information on Enoch due to how briefly we interact with him, so we’ll mainly be examining implications from the condition of his zone. Sprinkled around his zone from the bunkers to the cafeteria are many instructional posters, such as “Do not bring the desert to bed” and "Chew your meat well or you will not get any dessert." It seems a little controlling that these rules are abound whereas we have never seen such posters in other zones. Besides, it’s a little odd that an institution would even care about how well their employees chew their meat. Enoch is certainly emotionally detached, as he tells his employees false information that the ghosts are friends in order to acquire more bodies for sugar production, regardless of the inhumane effects it has on his employees wellbeing. Not to mention that sugar consumption, the basis of life in Zone 3, has some pretty grim effects on Elsens that consume it in the long run. Enoch’s views seem pretty extreme regarding himself, as he enjoys comparing himself to gods; upon meeting him, he says in the conversation: "We are a little like gods, drawing the infinite power of the sun to sculpt our worlds into the nothingness. Ahaha, I love that metaphor." While it is true that the Zones are powered by the Guardians’ life force, comparing oneself to a god can be seen as a little excessive or at least prideful. Also, when confronted by the Batter on the depravity of his zone, Enoch exclaims that “This is my fortress of happiness! My wall against the specters!" Based on the twisted condition of many employees, this doesn’t appear to be a “fortress of happiness,” at least not for the majority. Lastly, concerning the elitist trait, the book describes this trait as, “fighting for the one per cent to keep their status and obscene wealth to build an Elysium, which they hope will protect them from the rest of us when the balloon goes up.” This concept seems to hold up in Zone 3. It doesn’t seem to have any meaningful connections with the other zones, and Enoch even describes it as his “wall against the specters.” Enoch appears to stay in his office, surrounded by signs proclaiming, “Executive suite's note: You must not be here." He has pretty much barred himself off from the world in his protected zone, careless of any suffering outside it. He seems only concerned with protecting the one percent: himself. 
Almost done now. If you’ve read this far I applaud you and thank you putting up with my awful writing, as you didn’t have to but here you are. Last but not least, we have the Judge, Pablo. I argue that he is a Guardian, as he gives us the Leo card at the beginning and seems to be the keeper of Zone 0, patrolling it now and then. The Leo card is already highly fitting for the Judge, as the lion is a species of big cat. Also the Judge is more of the ‘gone right’ kind rather than ‘gone wrong’ so we’ll be looking at more positive traits. Leo ‘Gone Right’ exhibits integrity, loyalty, generosity, and bravery. The Judge certainly values integrity, as he praises the player in the beginning for their noble quest but berates them once he sees what their quest has truly become. The Judge appears to be loyal to us, or at least consistently helpful. Now, concerning generosity, the Judge is not extremely generous but he is generous to help us learn to reigns of the world in Zone 0 and gives us hints throughout the game despite us giving him nothing. The Judge is rather brave to stand up to the Batter, a being of unstoppable destruction near the end of the game. Picking the Batter to side with will end in his demise, but he attempts to stop us nevertheless. It’s also interesting to note that a ‘gone wrong’ trait of Leo signs is being grandiose and ostentatious, as the Judge frequently speaks in long, complicated sentences with fancy words. 
Well, that’s all of the Guardians and their Zodiac symbols. Thank you for reading if you read to the end! Forgive my poor writing and grammatical mistakes, I wrote this at 2:40 AM because I couldn’t sleep. Good night. 
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tooomuchtofu · 2 years
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I wonder if Zacharie and Sucre might have represented Hugo’s concepts of what parents should be like or what they are, contaminated and affected by the ways Hugo’s understanding of those roles shifted. Obviously, the Batter and the Queen are more direct representations of his father and mother within the world of OFF, but Zacharie and Sucre might have been parents he imagined for himself, in a way, or his hopes for his own parents, damaged by the shattering of those hopes.
Zacharie, firstly, has the background of being some sort of heroic figure of legend for no discernible reason, having killed the dastardly Toad King. He also owns the amusement park. To Hugo, fathers are supposed to be heroic, successful, hardworking. But Zacharie also isn’t really any of those things, not during the game. He stands in passive support of the Batter’s mission for the world’s eradication. Hugo didn’t particularly like his father, wishing his mother would rescue him from the Room. He hated the pills and he hated the Room. When the Batter kills Sucre, Zacharie says, “I suppose that’s for the best,” complacent, if reluctantly, in the elimination of a “mother figure.”
Sucre is barely even present. She spends the length of the game tucked away in a basement, the secret, optional boss, until she dies at the hands of the Batter. She’s easy to miss. She’s the X’s to the Batter’s O’s, but she’s not difficult to beat with a little bit of poison. She’s supposed to be a hard boss, she’s supposed to be the strongest, but she isn’t, because of her great critical flaw. She wears X’s over her chest, and though there are far more appealing interpretations of this imo, the tape(?) seems to cross out her breasts, traditional symbols of a mother’s role in the nourishment of a child. She chooses to hide herself away, she chooses not to stand in the way of the Batter unless sought out, she chooses to look for an escape from the reality she fears via distance and sugar. She’s supposed to be sweet, but she’s only ever distant and afraid. 
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medicalunprofessional · 8 months
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ohhh hell yes
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jel-jel-jel · 8 months
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So no Marina?!?!
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abd-illustrates · 4 months
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I might’ve spoiled the plot of Natlan | Genshin Impact THEORY
In which I read so much lore that I gained the power to see the future (maybe) This ended up being a real challenge to make - but it was also really fun! Please do lemme know what you reckon of these ideas, and whether y’all wanna see me pattern-recognition my way into several corkboards worth of theories about any other topics sometime down the line! (^^)/
(also: HAPPY NEW YEAR! 🥳🎉 Here's wishing y'all every good thing for 2024)
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puppyeared · 5 months
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au where asriel comes home early
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ay-its-grey · 5 months
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Matthew Patel can be shortened to MatPat
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mortispoxi · 3 months
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Seeing Twitter users recommending the People Make Games documentary as a good way to get insight on the issue is so….
I know, I’m always extremely disappointed whenever I come across someone who thinks it’s the end all be all explanations regarding the Studio ZA/UM situation.
Recommending that video always comes with a heavy caveat from me that the person needs to stop around the 40 minute mark since the interviewer shows a very clear bias that’s unbecoming of a journalist.
Regardless, now that more people are finding out about these layoffs, which might take out members of the studio that have been there since the beginning, it could finally help smack some sense into those Twitter users that actually thought, FOR SOME REASON, Rostov, Kurvitz, and Hindpere were lying for shits and giggles rather than seeing what's ACTUALLY going on which is that the investors have a very obvious agenda against the real wronged party. Hopefully this'll also open their eyes to how the People Make Games video fed into this twisted narrative that Kurvitz was somehow at fault/responsible for the theft of his own IP, but that might be asking too much from their concrete brains. Here's hoping though!
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personishfive · 10 months
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in which his life is like a video game
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goldensunset · 6 months
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literally don’t talk to me don’t touch me
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trix-or-treatz · 4 months
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Everyone get ready for one of the biggest farewells the internet has to offer, because like matpat or hate him, you cannot deny his impact on youtube and the internet as a whole
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lively-run-away · 2 months
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these drawings were done like a year and a half ago. like 2 month or so after the ultra deluxe version released. i was too busy doing assessments but i needed to draw him to cope with the work.
i kept thinking " ah i'll sketch it down and redraw a better version of these jokes" and then i never did so here you go. mostly just me making fun of the limitations that stanely must face as a little video game guy.
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tacticaldiary · 2 months
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I'm someone who hates goodbyes, it's one of the only things that really makes me emotional. I've been watching Matpat and Steph since I was a kid, and when a constant in your life that's been there for over a decade says goodbye...dude that was rough I won't lie.
I know the coming 4 hosts are going to kill it and I'm excited to see where the channels are going to go, but for nostalgia's sake, nothing is ever going to beat the original for me.
The ability to take topics and spin them into something so digestible to kids and adults alike without sounding condescending or talking down to them is a remarkable, special ability that those guys have. It's like magic how this guy made me excited to learn about topics I dreaded going to school for. I remember I learnt about permutations once from a video and it was so fascinating to me, I was beyond excited when I went to school a month later and the topic got brought up in math class. I got to ace the test and take pride in the fact that I already knew so much.
Matpat's made me cry 4 times over the past 2 weeks with his goodbyes- 5 if you could right now.
I guess what I'm trying to say is thank you, Matpat. Thank you for being a role model adult me is proud of having grown up with.
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anonymous-eggy · 10 months
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*smacks touchstarved fandom with a stick*
LEANDER DIDNT REACH FOR YOUR THROAT TO BE AN ASSHOLE! HIS WHOLE GOAL IN THE BEGINNING IS TO. GAIN. YOUR. TRUST.
WHAT PART OF REACHING FOR YOUR THROAT GAINS YOUR TRUST???
IT MAKES YOU DOUBT HIS POWER, HENCE WHY HE PLAYED IT OFF BY SAYING "LMAO JK JK" YOU FOOLS FELL FOR IT AND ATE IT UP BELIEVING HE WAS JUST BEIN A LIL JESTER. A LITTLE BITCH. A LITTLE ASSHOLE.
THATS WHAT HE WANTED YOU TO THINK BC FOR A MOMENT THE CURSE DID AFFECT HIM A BIT.
"BUT EGGY, HE DOESNT DO IT IF YOU WILLINGLY TOUCH HIM?!!?! HE WAS JUST SO OFFENDED YOU DIDNT TRUST HIM!!" DO YOU KNOW HOW CURSES CAN WORK? CATCH MC OFF GUARD AND THEIR CURSE FLARES UP TO BE STRONGER. THE CURSE'S STRENGTH PROBABLY DEPENDS ON HOW FREAKED OUT MC IS.
MC IS CALMER AND TRUSTING AND EXPECTANT WHEN THEY WILLINGLY TOUCH LEANDER. SO THE CURSE DOESNT FLARE UP.
THE CALMER MC IS THE LESS THE CURSE FLARES UP AND THE EASIER IT IS TO COUNTER WITH LEANDERS OWN MAGIC.
LEANDER GAINING YOUR TRUST COMES BEFORE ANY SORT OF RETALIATION. HE MAY BE A MAN CHILD OF A DOG, BUT HE IS DEDICATED. HE WILL CALMLY CHASE YOU UNTIL YOU'RE TOO TIRED TO KEEP RUNNING. YOU THINK HE GOT ALL THAT POWER BY BEING AN ASS TO PEOPLE WHO DONT IMMEDIATELY TRUST HIM?! HE WILL PLAY THE LONG GAME IF HE HAS TO. HE GIVES YOU THE WHOLE FACADE OF "you can come and go as you please, but i can be home for you :)"
HE HAS DUPED YOU ALL AND I WILL GIGGLE AT ALL OF YOU WHEN THE FULL GAME COMES OUT.
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savethegrishaverse · 4 months
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So first Freddy and Ben post photos together, than Leigh and Calahan, and now Ben and Calahan are together lifting weights??
It's all a little TOO suspicious. Also thank you to our discord Third Army members for crafting up these hilarious memes!
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