STUDY IN LOKI ROMANCE
Part 6: Conclusion
Since we're only a few days away from the last episode, I decided to COUNT DOWN everything we´ve got so far ( that can be interpreted very easily as romantic ) and discuss what the actual fuck is going on with second season. Because even though I shipped lokius practically from S1E2, I absolutely did NOT expect this kind of development. (Not that I´m complaining)
Warning: This is gonna be LONG post, lots of screenshots, lots of SPOILERS, lot of "oh-my-god-they-so-cute" language, and little bit of meta.
I originally thought that this post would be everything at once, but since I have just too many screenshots this time around, I´ll have to split it. so every post will be one episode. Color coding means:
IIIIIIIIII = anything, that coud potentialy be just acting choice.
IIIIIIIIII = everything else (tzn.: whatever was written, and/or carefully prepared by filmmakers. )
side note: I already wrote, about how amazing it is, that Mobius is unable to fight but fights anyway and how beautifuly, and ridiculously brave he is HERE. But this is about Loki/Mobius interactions, so I´ll try my best not to talk about THAT. (Even when I´m really happy, that s2 continues with this formula and Mobius is still his completely defenseless while aggressively brave self. I love him, btw.)
Here is count down for every episode:
EPISODE 1 HERE
EPISODE 2 HERE
EPISODE 3 HERE
EPISODE 4 HERE
EPISODE 5 HERE
Sooooo 51 lokius moments, that were completely and utterly unexpected, but yet here they are.
Why?
Let´s start with over look at what we´ve actualy got:
Things that could technically be just acting choices and Tom´s and Owen´s chemistry together:
unexpected exhibition of touches
Distressed God and his Happy Face (at O. B. office)
Loki finding Mobius´s joke amusing
Loki´s head tilt and smile at Mobius (in pie scene)
"They say opposites attract. NO."
Another exhibition of touches (ep 3)
"let´s be as close as we physically can" challange (at Timley´s spech)
Loki glow up (Loki fixing himself for Mobius/Don)
Loki being very nervous and stuttering while talking to Mobius/Don.
Loki gently helping Mobius/Don through the time door.
Things that are deffinitely NOT just acting choices:
"Mobius It´s me!"
"Tell me, you recognize me!"
scene in in an elevator
Mobius and Loki talking to OB.
bickering, like married couple, part 1
"Mobius if I don´t make it back" and "You´ll make it back".
Mobius risking his life SKIN for loki and refusing to give up on him.
Loki saves Mobius in an epic fashion and they end up in a hug:
matching suits part 1
Loki defending /saving Mobius from Brad (with magic!)
Mobius and Loki struggling to assemble IKEA furniture- sorry Tapmad together
" And he knows..."
Loki being very concerned for Mobius after his outburst, saying that It´s okay, and then suggests having pie
Bickering like married couple (part 2)
The whole freaking pie scene!
Loki and Mobius: mischievous duo (Breaking Brad)
Loki, not following Sylvie (at the end of episode 2)
matching suits part 2
"And they lived happily ever after..." circle transition
Loki and Mobius enjoying popcorn:
Also... Bickering like married couple (part 3)
"You know sometimes I forget, that you are one of them... Blows my mind!"
Mobius supporting Loki in using magic...
Victor/Ravonna - the most transparent mirror ever:
THE TANDEM BIKE
Loki going with Mobius, not even thinking about it anymore.
changing clothes together
Bickering like married couple (part 4)
The "misunderstanding trope"
Pie scene number two
Shot with only two of them, right before the end of ep4
Loki looking for Mobius in PIE ROOM
Loki Time slipping to the theater room
Mobius/Don casually informing Loki, he´s a SINGLE dad and telling him his entire work schedule
Loki time slipping to Mobius again (right when he started to be hopefull and Happy, that O. B. will be able to help him.
Mobius/Don dropping everything and forgeting about his two mischievous sons so he can give Loki full attention
Wanna buy my wife´s jetski?
"A beautiful union of form and function"
"You saved my life, when I first arrived. You saw something in me, that I hadn´t seen in myself."
"I want my friends back. I don´t want to be alone."
"It was more about what I wanted."
"It´s not about where, when or why. It´s about WHO."
So... let´s scrap the theory, that romantic tention is created only by chemistry between actors (though it IS amazing and also key ingredient) and their acting choices.
Because so far, screenplay, and cinematography was supporting their story as well.
I feel, like I should clarify, that I do not expect Lokius kiss, or blatant confirmation to happen.
I was here during Johnlock debacle. And I was here, when Destiel ended... the way it ended. And I refuse to put in creators (especially when it comes to marvel/disney) any hope, that I know can be crushed so very easily.
I´m not doing this shit again. If it happens? WOW! I´m gonna be surprised. very pleasantly surprised.
I will litteraly never shut up about it
But I do not expect it.
Not even now, when I saw, what are creators of Loki able to put out in the world.
Like this for example:
Or this, very brutal death scene:
And yeah, I am avare, Loki officialy CAN have male love interest, because it was confirmed in a text, that he´s a bi.
Also there was this (very misleading) article few years ago:
Still. I can´t bring myself to hope for anything explicit.
But I absolutely understand anyone, who have that hope. And I know, how great feeling it is, while it lasts.
Anyway. I´m gonna look at all possible options, I can think of. Even some, I feel, are more possible then others.
And maybe answer is not just one. It could be more things at once.
Explanation number one:
Creators took notes on how season 1 was received. And they saw, that Mobius is very popular, well-liked character, his interactions with Loki were favorite moments according to majority of an audience, and decided to lean more into that, for viewer´s sake.
Same with sylvie. Once they saw her romantic relationship with Loki isn´t that popular, they decided to give her her own agency, own story instead.
Explanation number two:
They genuinely think, they are showing deep friendship between two bros and nothing more.
I mean... Loki getting close circle of friends and wanting to stay with them is a one of the bigest themes this season.
They are trying to make a point about Loki changing bacause of them (and probably making sacrifice for them)
But there is still very intentional difference between his relationship with Mobius and everybody else. Mobius is obviously the most important one of the bunch.
Explanation number three:
Creators want romantic scene with Sylvie and Loki to be big surprise at the end, so they tried to show as much problems and conflicts between them, as they could and limited their screentime together.
But I personaly think, this would be stupid for many reasons:
Making Mobius and Loki focus this season caused people to rooth for them, and be invested in their relationship more.
They showed multiple times, that Sylvie wants from life very different things, then Loki and their philosophical views differ greatly.
It doesn´t look like creators put enough effort into building up this kind of ending to be satisfying. It would just feel like they´re trying to surprise / shock audience.
Explanation number four:
They think that what they are doing with Mobius and Loki is father/son dynamic.
(I´m sorry, but this would be just hilarious. If this is the case, I would love to know, what they were thinking, when they decided to leave Owen´s line: "You´re just a little pussycat" in there. Or when they look at all those acting choices and said YES, THANK YOU. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.)
Explanation number five:
They´re queerbaiting the hell out of us. And their master plan is to make us all watch and having hope and then they will throw in the finale some last minute no homo explanation and wil laugh in our faces.
(I suppose I don't have to say how much I like this option *sarcasm*)
Explanation number six:
Creators would like to make Lokius canon, but they are restricted / they´re not allowed to. So they decided to go as far, as they can. To give us little (big) nods, to give us those beutiful scenes. To double down on everything lokius related. And they know what they can get away with before casual viewers notice that there is something gay happening.
(I mean... it looks like they can get away with anything but kiss at this point :D Like seriously. I saw people talking about how beautiful Dean and Castiel´s friendship was EVEN after finale, so...)
Explanation number seven:
They are doing Love triangle thing, where they will try ultimitely "please everyone" by giving us some scene that could be potentialy seen as romantic between Loki and Sylvie AND between Loki and Mobius (while leaving it for interpretation)
In Czech republic, we call it: "when the wolf ate well, but goat is still alive."
Explanation number eight:
They ARE able to make Lokius canon, but they actually like podtext more, then posibility to make it transparent, and that is just the way, they want to tell this story.
Explanation number nine:
They were planning to make Lokius a thing (if not from the start, then after season one) and they made whole season this way, so more people would rooth for them. And it will end with some form of confirmation of their love story.
( as I mentioned above, I can´t see this happening, but that is my bad experience talking. If it happens, I deffinitely won´t be mad about being wrong here, I can promise you that :D )
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I gues we will know more about their intent after episode 6.
Right now, I´m actually just hoping, that story will stay consistent as much as it can. And characters won´t die. On the contrary I hope, they will end up happy, because they did earn it.
I have to say, that I enjoyed this season even more then the first. And I really do hope, that finale wont make me change my mind.
Regardles of intention, this show is high quality and it is obvious how much care was poured into every aspect of this season from effects, cinematography, costums, sets, music, acting... I think, that this show is a best thing marvel did in a long, LONG time.
Also please, pleaseeee let this season end at the place, where it will be possible to see Loki and Mobius in other MCU project (I would honestly watch anything, where they appear together)
And lastly:
If it doesn´t end the way you wanted, please please don´t let anger to rule your actions. Do criticize as much as you want, but please don´t harrass anybody. At the end of the day, creators of this show are also just people. Don´t say anything, you wouldn´t say into their faces.
If it will end badly, watch your favourite, comfort gay show, celebrate how much Lokius fix-it fanfiction we´ll have! And how much art already exists because of those first five episodes.
Or take that frustration and turn it to motivation: maybe you can create something better!
I was there in 2017.
Please just don´t let TV show ruin your whole year and your creativity.
for people who got here and read it all: I really appreciate it!
Thank you!
💚
PS: Sorry for my english and all the grammer mistakes I´m aware it´s not ideal 😅
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Loki S2 isn’t really about romantic relationship
I just saw someone here talk about that (I think it was @ftmwillz ) and I was like, omg it’s brillant I have to write about it !
The theory is that this scene isn’t actually Loki standing between his 2 love interest and having to choose between them, but actually a scene kinda like angel and demon and the shoulder
And this makes totally sense if you think about it:
On one side, you have Sylvie ("the demon"), which represent what Loki used to be (full of pride, of anger, blaming everyone for the situation he actually did put on himself, violent)
On the other side, there is Mobius ("the angel") which here is what Loki has become / is becoming ( patient, calm, using his power not for himself but for the other)
And this can also explain the whole dynamics of the show.
On season 1, Loki is clearly running from himself or to be more precise, from what he could become. We can clearly see that by the scene in season 1 episode 2 where Loki runs from Mobius. And this is also why Loki clings to Sylvie the whole first season. He doesn’t want to be better, he wants to go back to what he used to be because it is easier. The pressure Mobius represent for Loki to be better is overwhelming and force Loki away.
But the change in him I think happened in the last episode. He embraces (quite literally) Sylvie, who still represent what Loki think he should be.
But he is actually being rejected (again quite literally) and this is when he realized that this is not him anymore, that the TVA has actually change him. And so he runs to Mobius, because he is the one closer to him now.
And this also explain why after Sylvie yell at mobius in season 2 ep 4 (that was mean >:( ) Loki runs after Sylvie, (because you can never stop to be your true self, and we all know Loki is not a pure sweetheart and will never be),not to confess to her but to explain to her why Mobius acted like that. He actually has mature.
Also Mobius may represent more that just Loki’s good side. He can also represent his fears. When you think about it, what Mobius is actually afraid of this season is the base of Loki character in the MCU: he just has learned that he has been lie to his whole life, and he runs from who is really is.
So to resume, the season 2 might not be about Loki having to choose between Sylvie and Mobius as love interest, but it’s actually Loki choosing between what he used to be and what he can become.
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