#livvy blackthorn

[tys-kitty]

Friendly reminder that neither Ty nor Livvy had a POV in TDA, so we never really got to read their interactions, where it‘s just the two of them. And with that I‘m also sure that there was at least one conversation about Kit.

Just imagine Ty, who told Livvy pretty much everything, saying something like „I‘m gonna ask him to be my Watson tonight“ or „I really want him to stay, Livvy“

#cassandra clare #kit herondale #ty blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #kit x ty #twp #the wicked powers #tda #the dark artifices

[tyblackthornfrog]

What the tda characters would watch on youtube:

Julian: art and diy gift ideas for your girlfriend

Emma: dance videos and pranks

Dru: horror movie recs and music

Ty: random facts about literally anything, probably something with animals

Kit: breakup songs

Tavvy: how to make slime with no borax

Mark: doesn't know what that is

Cristina: isn't really interested in anything, but maybe some music

Livvy: gamers playing action games

<p.s. this is stricly my opinion and i thought it would be fun! toodles>

#now that i think about it most of them probably wouldn't know what yt is #but this was just for funsies #tsc #the shadowhunter chronicles #queen of air and darkness #cassandra clare #twp #the wicked powers #kit herondale #ty blackthorn #tda #the dark artifices #julian blackthorn #emma carstairs #cristina rosales #mark blackthorn #tavvy blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #lord of shadows #lady midnight #qoaad #dru blackthorn

[cassandraclare]

By Charlie Bowater — Ty, ghost!Livvy and Irene the lynx at the Scholomance.

#the wicked powers #ty blackthorn #twp #livvy blackthorn

[confusionmeisss]

if i had a nickel for every time a herondale-blackthorn duo performed necromancy to bring back a blackthorn relative, i’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.

#ali’s thoughts & opinions 📼 #the shadowhunter chronicles #tsc #the dark artifices #tda #the last hours #tlh #the wicked powers #twp #ty blackthorn #kit herondale #livvy blackthorn #lucie herondale #grace blackthorn #jesse blackthorn #if i had a nickel

[clockwork-carstairs]

the dark artifices has so many moments that just floor me. when diana opens up to gwyn and he tells her she’s the bravest woman he’s ever met and gently asks, Can I hold you? when kieran feels betrayed and mark kneels in front of him to ask for forgiveness and tells him I love you, I wish you could believe me. when julian says to emma “I’ll love you if I never touch you” and emma thinks, I love you more than starlight. kieran telling mark “you are all that exists on the earth and under the sky that I do love.” julian telling dru that “you’re the heart of this family”. ty and kit being each other’s reasons to stay. livvy’s protectiveness over ty; livvy telling julian she wants to be like him. kierarktina dancing together and all being stunned after. there is just such fierce and fragile love in this series in so many different forms, i’m so soft for all of them

#the dark artifices #tda #platonic love familial love romantic love #it’s just devastating!!!! #blackstairs #julian blackthorn #emma carstairs #diana wrayburn #gwyn ap nudd #kieran hunter #mark blackthorn #cristina rosales #kierarktina #kitty #kit herondale #ty blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #drusilla blackthorn #even malcolm’s consuming love for annabel #like there’s so much insane love in this series but it’s never too much it’s always just devastating and powerful #like wow #the livvy ones. cc when i catch you #tsc #kit x ty #julian x emma

[rinadragomir]

Different arts. Different artists. The same "sad puppy looking at people he loves most" face

#sedate me #please #i can't do it anymore #tsc #ty blackthorn #kit herondale #livvy blackthorn #tda #twp #sobh #the wicked powers #cassandra jean #charlie bowater #cassandra clare #the shadowhunter chronicles

[alastairstom]

All of the art we have for the journal so far, compiled in one convenient location! I'm a little bit confused since the Kickstarter says there are 12 arts, and they say there's only one more to go (making 11 in total), but hey! These are the ones we've got.

(Update: edited to add the Clary & Sebastian one that I forgot the first time)

#i just realised the last one could be kierarktina #i'll be surprised if it isn't jessa #but it could be kierarktina or sizzy too #or maybe one is matthew and his LI and they're hiding it lol #would be amazing #okay tagging #jordelia #thomastair #clace #malec #wessa #blackstairs #jemma #heronstairs #kitty #ty blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #clary fairchild #sebastian morgenstern

[queenie-blackthorn]

friendly reminder that max was just a year younger than ty n livvy, meaning he mightve been a part of the twp gang<3

#the shadowhunter chronicles #tsc #ty blackthorn #kit herondale #twp #the wicked powers #shadowhunters #max lightwood #kit x ty #ty x kit #kitty #livvy blackthorn

[dancing-in-the-rain-1104]

RIP Livvy Blackthorn you would have loved the eras tour, friendship bracelets, and Olivia Rodrigo’s music

#tsc #the shadowhunter chronicles #cassandra clare #the dark artifices #livvy blackthorn #the wicked powers #twp

[secretsofblackthornhall]

Livvy to Julian

Dear Julian,

You can see ghosts but you cannot see me. Not when I come to sit by you while you sleep. Not when I am in the movements of the shadows across the lawn, or the twitch of a curtain. You cannot hear me, even though I am speaking to you because I have things I need to tell you. 

I want to tell you about Ty.

He was there. We were there.

You don’t know we were there.

Kit knows.

Let me start over.

You like surprises, Ty says. Ty doesn’t like surprises, but you do.

He is learning Portals, how to open them, how to close them. You need a warlock. But Ty is learning and he is getting better. He wanted to come to see you and Ragnor said he would help.

We wanted to come to see you.

Ty warned Emma, but he told her not to tell you, so it would be a surprise.

So we came through together.

A ghost travels through a Portal just like a Shadowhunter. I didn’t know that. Isn’t that funny?

Well, I thought it was funny.

The Portal opened in the kitchen.

The kitchen looks nice. I am only a spirit caught between the world and the void but I think you chose an excellent shade for the walls. You have always been so good with color.

Other than the color, which was a surprise but not a bad one, there was another surprise in the kitchen. Kit.

Kit was in the kitchen. Wearing that jacket he likes, with the fuzzy collar. The sun came through the window and lit him up.

Everything in Ty froze. Even I almost froze. I’ve seen Kit, of course. I visit him sometimes. Still because I wasn’t expecting him, it hit me how different he looks from the way he did when he lived at the Institute with us. He looks older, and taller. More muscular. He moves like a Shadowhunter now. Graceful.

He’s beautiful.

I heard Ty take a breath like he never has before. Like he was gasping for air, like he’d been sucker-punched and he was trying to breathe and trying to breathe and he couldn’t.

He whispered, “That’s not how you clean a gun.”

Sorry, I should have said before. Kit was cleaning a gun. Why would there be a gun at your house? Blackthorn Hall is like a rock. You turn it over and so many things are underneath. This time a gun was underneath.

Kit went whiter than any ghost I’ve ever seen. He dropped the gun onto the counter. And he didn’t speak. I wonder if he was wondering what I was wondering. I was wondering how Ty knew how to clean a gun. Enough to tell someone they were doing it wrong.

Maybe he just didn’t know what to say, so he said that.

After that they looked at each other.

Time is not fast or slow where I am. And yet it was long enough for me to feel like the whole world was disappearing, like there was nothing else in it except Kit and Ty looking at each other.

Kit said, “You shouldn’t be here.”

He has never spoken to me like that. With such a cold voice. He had put his hands in his pockets and his shoulders were thrust forward, like he was being aggressive, but I could see his hands in his pockets, all knotted up. I wonder if Ty saw it too. Kit’s fingers, digging and digging into themselves.

But Ty wasn’t looking at Kit. He was looking past him at the window. I could hear birds, and quiet English sounds, and Ty breathing. He said, “How long do you think it will take you to forgive me?”

Kit looked at me. He looked a little betrayed, as if somehow I had known he would be here, had planned this. But I didn’t. “I don’t know,” he said.

“But not now,” Ty said in the smallest voice.

“No,” Kit said. “Not now.”

There was no more reason to stay then.

Maybe there was a reason. Maybe it was Kit’s hands crushing in on themselves, till I thought the bones would break like hearts.

But Ty couldn’t see that. Ty was in pain. I put myself next to him, wrapped myself around him, held him while we went back through the Portal. I was sad. I wanted to see you very much, Jules. But Ty needed me to be there with him.

If you dream this, maybe you will know we were there in your house. I am sorry we didn’t stay.

Julian, I don’t know what to do. Ty misses Kit more than he thought he could miss someone. He misses him as much now as he did the day he left. He loves him the same. I think he always will and it scares me.

Kit is used to not needing people, but Ty needs people. He is afraid to need people but that is only because he needs them so much. He is not going to stop needing Kit. I don’t know if Kit will always need Ty. But Ty will always need him.

Irene says hello. I am teaching her to play dead.

I love you.

Livvy

#sobh #secrets of blackthorn hall #julian blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #ty blackthorn #kit herondale #kit x ty #irene

[mayaheronthorn]

Ty lost Livvy and Kit in a span of weeks, I think we need to talk about this

#cassandra clare #the wicked powers #the shadowhunter chronicles #tsc #twp #ty blackthorn #the dark artifices #kit x ty #kitty #kit herondale #livvy blackthorn

[tys-kitty]

Why do I have this bad feeling that Ty has to choose between saving Kit and saving Livvy in TWP? (Like imagine a prince of hell trying to talk him into handing Kit over or bringing Livvy back)

#cassandra clare #kit herondale #ty blackthorn #twp #the wicked powers #livvy blackthorn

[layla-carstairs]

manifesting the Blackthorns have the nastiest, most nauseatingly angsty epic train wreck of a fight in TWP. perhaps in the second book or whenever they all find out about Livvy. like it's awful and you can't look away as they're all at their worst with the people they love the most, who they would do and have done anything for. it's the bloodiest fight any of them have ever been in and there wasn't even any weapons involved, just words they didn't mean and cannot take back. like they all care so much about one another but things have changed and none of them cope with it at all so instead it all just. blows up. like Ty only ever wanted to keep everyone together and go back to how things were, but instead he's the one who inadvertently fractures them; the unavoidabe fate of Blackthorns siblings.

#WALK WITH ME HERE #I feel like I hope for something like every series & inevitably get let down but maybe I'll be right this time #like it would be so good... #in my head it starts with the Livvy reveal & spirals from there #pls pls pls Cassandra #bella talks #tsc #the shadowhunter chronicles #the wicked powers #twp #the last king of faerie #tlkof #the last prince of hell #tlpoh #the last shadowhunter #tls #helen blackthorn #mark blackthorn #julian blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #ty blackthorn #dru blackthorn

[deepspacialrift]

don’t forget to kiss your local herondale today!

#shadowhunters #the shadowhunter chronicles #tsc #alec lightwood #jace herondale #clary fray #tessa gray #will herondale #jem carstairs #ty blackthorn #kit herondale #livvy blackthorn #abbarts

[wikitpowers]

i think it's really not talked about enough that ty is literally under the impression that kit is in love with livvy like i’m sorry-

#this truly messes me up u dont even know how badly #i'll just be minding my own business and vibing and suddenly BOOM #i think of this and then- and then- #i cry. #kit herondale #ty blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #kit x ty #kitty #the dark artifices #the wicked powers #tda #twp #tsc

[tycarstairs]

ready to fight for my life for ty blackthorn when twp is released because the way people are already infantilizing and patronizing him bc he’s autistic is so….

no one asked for this but i’ve seen a lot of people have weird takes on his autism so as an autistic woman i need to clear some things up ok 😭 so buckle up, this is gonna be a long one (seriously, it’s long)

the main arguments i’ve seen are: (i’m paraphrasing here btw)

“ty didn’t cry when livvy died but he did cry when kit said he wished he’d never known him so it’s clear that he does love kit.”

and

“ty clearly loves kit because he cried when they argued and it’s hard for autistic people to cry.”

and

“ty gets on my nerves because he didn’t react at all when kit told him he loved him”

like. i do get what you’re saying (with the first one. not the second one, that’s a stereotype, and also not the third one bc that’s just weird), because it does show that ty cares but like. obviously? all his actions before that showed that he cared too.

saying “he cried when him and kit fought but not when livvy died” just comes off as acting like he’s more upset about kit leaving and insulting him than he is about kit dying and that just rubs me the wrong way.

i know this is not common knowledge but autistic people often have delayed processing, especially when we’re grieving because it can be so overstimulating and even when we do grieve, it’s not gonna look the same as when an allistic person grieves.

so, delayed processing:

delayed processing in autism is where you are recording/aknowledge events as they happen, however that information is stored elsewhere in the brain and isn't taken in.

once the brain is ready or has capacity the information is suddenly taken in. this could be hours, weeks, days or even months later.

an example (from justkeepstimming_ on instagram):

An autistic person whose mother died at quite a young age. At the time, when his father was grieving, it did not appear the autistic son was upset.

However, one year after his mother's death, he suddenly processed that she was gone (permanently) and only then started the grieving process.

that example is pretty much exactly what happened with ty in qoaad.

partly, ty didn’t cry when livvy died because he didn’t accept that she was dead. he was so sure that he was gonna bring her back and for a long time, he probably didn’t even consider the fact that he might fail.

after livvy dies, kit says this:

“Everyone had been terrified. Ty would fall apart, they’d thought. Kit remembered Julian standing over Ty as he slept, one hand stroking his brother’s hair, and he’d been praying—Kit didn’t even know Shadowhunters prayed, but Julian definitely had been. Ty would crumble in a world without his sister, they’d all thought; he’d fall away to ashes just like Livvy’s body.”

if ty were allistic, he probably would have reacted like this immediately. and he does react like this eventually when his brain fully processes that the ritual didn’t work, that livvy is actually not coming back:

“Livvy!” Ty didn’t scream the word so much as it was ripped from him; he curled up, hugging himself, as if desperate to keep his body from shattering apart.”

this is when ty actually processes that his sister is gone. so saying, “ty didn’t cry when his sister died but he cried when him and kit fought” as if it’s some really romantic thing that he was sadder about kit leaving than livvy dying (which is not true) is just iffy because it’s such a stereotype and a misconception that autistic people don’t seem to care at all when people die, and way too many people from this fandom are feeding into that so much.

and ty does show is grieving throughout qoaad but because it’s not in the allistic way, a lot of readers don’t recognize it.

(i was actually so positively surprised to see that cassandra clare, an allistic woman, wrote the grieving process for an autistic character—and everything else about being autistic tbh—so well but it gives me so much hope for twp)

for example, autistic people (this is obviously not all autistic people as all autistic people are different but i'm just listing the signs i've seen in ty in qoaad) when they're grieving might show their grief gradually in more subtle ways by hurting themselves, emotionally or physically, which ty does do:

"The only person he was unkind to, Kit thought, was himself."

and we also see in gotsm that ty is continuously punishing himself because he is still grieving. livvy is simultaneously there and dead, and ty has to live with both the grief of her death and the guilt of her being stuck as a ghost.

there's also the fact that kit observes that ty starts keeping secrets and doing things alone, which is also common when trying to process emotions that haven’t fully caught up yet:

“In the past days, though, since Julian and Emma had woken up, Ty had been harder to find. If he was working on something, he hadn’t included Kit in it—a thought that hurt with surprising intensity.”

like. ty is pulling away because he is trying to process everything that’s happening. him excluding kit is very likely a symptom of some kind of delayed grief because it’s very unlike him to exclude kit from anything, as we can see when he says multiple times outright that he doesn’t want to do things without kit.

just because it’s more subtle than breaking down into tears doesn’t mean that he doesn’t feel it at all. it’s more likely that he simply feels too much and is shutting down because of it.

and of course his grief is gonna be subtle when he hasn’t even accepted and processed the fact that she’s dead yet.

and yes, he cried when kit told him he wished he’d never met him but that is so different because there was no room for denial. kit told him that word for word, the processing wasn’t delayed this time because there wasn’t really that much to process.

ty truly believed right away that his only friend wished he had never known him, and when livvy died he didn’t accept that she was dead. those things are different and pitting them against each other is weird.

so, onto the second argument/misconception i’ve seen that:

“ty clearly loves kit because he cried when they argued and it’s hard for autistic people to cry.”

this is a misconception stemming from the stereotype that autistic people are emotionless. yes, some autistic people might have a harder time crying because of shutdowns etc. but generalizing it to it’s hard for autistic people to cry is just wrong, especially because this has never been implied about ty in the text.

in fact, it’s the opposite:

“Ty heard everything twice as loud and fast as everyone else. The headphones and the music, Kit sensed, were a buffer: They deadened not just other noises, but also feelings that would otherwise be too intense. They protected him from hurt.

He couldn’t help but wonder what it would be like to live so intensely, to feel things so much, to have the world sway into and out of too-bright colors and too-bright noises. When every sound and feeling was jacked up to eleven, it only made sense to calm yourself by concentrating all your energy on something small that you could master—a mass of pipe cleaners to unravel, the pebbled surface of a glass between your fingers.”

so implying that it’s harder for ty to either cry or feel sad is just wrong. kit notes that “every sound and feeling was jacked up to eleven”, and this includes ty’s grief. him not crying when livvy died has nothing to do with how much he may or may not be feeling and everything to do with how delayed his processing was.

and the third complaint of ty is frustrating because he didn’t react when kit told him he loved him.

first of all, i don’t know if it’s my autistic ass not understanding allistic people but is it not normal to be in shock when someone tells you they love you in the middle of a necromancy ritual???

and second of all, this scene from city of heavenly fire where julian says “i know it’s hard to understand, ty, but we love you” like it’s supposed to explain their actions and ty reacts like this:

Ty looked at him blankly. He knew what “I love you” meant, and he knew it was good, but he didn’t understand why it was an explanation for anything.”

ty looking at kit blankly in surprise in qoaad is not him “not reacting”, it’s him trying to process 1) what that has to do with anything and 2) why that would be an explanation or an argument as to why ty should stop the ritual.

(it is probably also partly because ty thought kit had feelings for livvy at this point but that’s just speculation so i won’t get into it now)

to kit, this was probably his way of saying that because he loves him, ty can stop the ritual and kit will help him with the aftermath.

to ty, kit’s confession made no sense in that moment because why would kit loving him mean that he should stop the ritual? and this was most likely also the moment when his grief was really starting to kick in, so that just adds to it.

yeah idk if anyone made it to the end but as you can tell, i have a lot to say and i’m tired of people romanticizing ty’s grief.

#this is so long i’m sorry #sick of fandoms infantilizing neurodivergent characters #ty blackthorn i will always defend you #i’m putting my english degree to good use #the dark artifices #ty blackthorn #livvy blackthorn #the wicked powers #kit herondale #kitty #kit x ty #shadowhunters #actually autistic #twp #cassandra clare