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ofbreathandflame · 24 hours

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Now it's a problem for Elain to have friends?, how ridiculous is that? It's wrong when she doesn't have friends, and now it's wrong when she does? give me a break I don’t see how this could possibly be an issue?

Could you do me a favor, and answer these questions for me...

Can you describe their personalities? What does Nuala do in her free time? Where does she live? What moment of dialogue did you find interesting about them that furthered their story? Do they fight with each other? Where do they live? What are some of their personal struggles? What is something in all five books they’ve expressed they want to do? Are they in relationships? How are they affected by their trauma UTM? What interests you other than what they did for Elain? Can you name a moment in the text between them where they are speaking with one another? Did Elain ever return the favor? What is your favorite moment of them that's not them serving? Mutual interactions? What's your favorite moment of dialogue between Elain and the Twins? These are simple questions that cannot be explicitly answered.

"I can't wait for their friendship to be explored..." and yet we know nothing about the sisters. They have no character arc - there's nothing to look forward to other than what they have 'done for Elain'

When you guys are saying friends, you're saying that because of what the twins have done for Elain, what they will do. There's no conversation about what Elain has done for them. Even within the Valkyrie dynamic, Nesta initiates almost all of her current friendships - if anything Nesta has helped them first, and they do the same for her. I am not saying the dynamic is necessarily good, but simply, Gwyn and Emerie are not handmaidens. They aren't gonna 'dress Nesta' or 'set her up' with Cassian. They have issues, trauma, goals, and fears that are developed and not centered around Nesta. They have potential love interests, fears, aspirations, flaws. They struggle with things. And even that doesn't mean they're fully fledged or realistic...but Nuala and Cerridwen don't even have that.

The issue is that these are women of color placed into this servitude position so thoroughly, that people can't help but defend and recreate that dynamic in their own fandom experience. Its why most of the N+C fan arts look exactly like they do, and why the discussion around them is exactly the way it is - we are sub-consciously taught to continually write and treat them as they are portrayed; we train ourselves to justify these positions, and to uphold the hegemonic beliefs. Elain should make friends, she should go out and build relationships -- not just get handed bankrolled hand-maidens who essentially still operate as handmaidens. I do not think there should ever be character/maid positions without it being addressed. I especially don't think women of color should ever operate in the best friend/maid setting. It's a stereotype as old as time.

#anti sjm #anti acosf #anti sjm: nesta archeron #anti inner circle #anti feysand #anti acotar #anti acomaf #anti sjm: nuala and cerridwen #anti sjm: elain archeron

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theshadowsingersraven · 5 hours

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It's so weird to me that people get bent out of shape at their self-created premise of Eluciens shipping while "ignoring Elain's feelings" about Lucien.

Elain is a fictional character. Her feelings are designated by SJM in the canon text, and whoever writes for her in fanon and fanfiction. Elain’s feelings are not autonomous. They are designed by the author writing her for whatever medium or purpose, or the fanartist creating art of her.

When I write Elain with Lucien, I don't write her as miserable and trapped. And I don't think most Elucien writers do that, either.

I will write her hesitant, potentially, depending on the point in which their relationship has developed. Or guarded or unsure of how she feels. You know, like Nesta and Feyre were with their mates, too, initially.

But the people who ship and write and create content for Elucien don't do so as a way to be "cruel" or "punishing" or "unconcerned". We do it because we see potential that others don't. We can imagine how their conversations could go, how their dynamics could change, what events could trigger a change in how they view each other. And we show that in the artistic medium we're most drawn to.

These are the ideas I toss around for my Elucien writing:

Maybe Elain meets Jurian and Vassa.

Maybe she goes to Spring.

Maybe Lucien sees a more powerful part of her and is impressed.

It's literally the base foundation of creativity. Imagining characters in scenarios you want to see. And there's nothing wrong with that in the slightest. How else do you think we get any books or TV shows? Any media, really?

It just reads as a very overly-moralistic, juvenile, and non-creative line of thinking to me.

"Why are you ignoring Elain's feelings?"

I'm not. I'm changing them and designating where I believe they will go based on my own creativity and desire to grow her arc and character. I'm changing her feelings based on what I want. Which, I actually love to break it to you, is exactly what SJM does, too.

Not everyone is going to be a writer. Not everyone is going to be a creative person. I understand that. But what people in this fandom don't understand is that it's an actual process with time and effort, and there's nothing to get upset or worked up over.

If you do get upset, respectfully, that's a you problem. You are not Elain. No one is pushing you towards a guy you don't feel any particular way about as if you're in high school. No one is making you do or consume anything. You are fine.

Elucien can not hurt you.

You're going to have to live with basic fandom creativity, and if you can't handle that, maybe fandom spaces aren't for you.

#pro elucien #elucien #elain archeron #lucien vanserra #anti e/riel #antielriel

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rise-my-angel · 23 hours

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those targ stans comparing Rhaenyra's strong boys to Jon are the absolute worst

Like, on one hand, I do see why people defend them. It wasn't their fault they were born to such unfavourable circumstances. Its not easy to grow up being conflicted about who you really are, and as much as Rhaenyra loves them, its clear she does not prioritize them over herself.

But theres more problems then that. The biggest point against them is the incident with Aemond. First of all, I don't condone the actions of Aemond when grown up since he is certainly unhinged, but here he was what? 10? 12? Somewhere around that age, and he felt he needed to claim Vhagar, the biggest dragon, after her riders death because that was the only way he felt he had to prove his worth in this family. For kids who are not sure if they were bastards, the Strong boys have never indicated once that they felt that desperate to prove something for their place in a family. Aemond telling his mother that him losing an eye is alright because he "gained a dragon" is heartbreaking. He thought losing his eye to claim a dragon was the only way to prove himself. When have the Strong boys ever indicated they felt that desperate?

Secondly is the attack itself. Aemond was alone and ganged up on. He was attacked by multiple people at once whom clearly brought items to attack him with, and him calling them bastards should not have illicted that violent of a responce. It is NOT normal to wound someone so bad they lose an eye during a fight between young boys.

Without knowing Myachs face yet, Robert phrased it best when the worst that happened was Joffery got bit in the arm by a wolf the size of a dog. "Damn it, children fight. It's over." But Cersei escalates this by propgating Jofferys lies and publically paints Arya out to be a wild animal. And we all knew then that Joffery was in the wrong in a much less serious situation (unless your Myach).

But here, the wounded child, was the one the other kids attacked themselves, and then allowed their mother to take charge and demand he be tortured. She accuses Aemond of starting a fight they know they instigated, and then allowed their mother to demand torture for a boy saying something that was already a rumour.

We all look at the adults in that situation but the Strong Boys mutilated Aemond and then allowed their mother to lie about what happened and demand torture for something he merely said in anger.

Now part of the issue is that Jace and Luke especially have essentially, no real individual character. Much like Baela and Rhaena's lack of character development, they are mostly a duo who dont stand on their own. Season 2 will change that for Jace obviously, but all we have seen of the boys in the most prominent scenes with them is a willingness to use aggression and allow their mother to violently lie for them to cover up their own wrongdoings.

Other then being bastards, the Strong Boys have literally no comparison to Jon Snow. They were called and raised as highborns. Those boys were literally involved in inheritance debates. They have massive privileges every other highborn does.

Jon grew up a known bastard and that literally dictated his entire life as lesser then the siblings he grew up with. He is nothing like them because he fought for everything he has and it's still nothing compared to what those boys were given for absolutely nothing.

Also, Jon never cut another boys eye out in a fight when they called him a bastard. Literally the first time we see him get that violent is trying to stab Ser Alliser, and that was for insulting his fathers honour after said father was arrested for a treason Jon knows is likely untrue.

Jace hopefully will have better development this season, but as it stands, he and Luke both were the kinds of people who wouldve spat down on the likes of Jon Snow.

And those bad traits come from where else but Rhaenyra herself. I don't support shitting on them because theyre bastards but most people who don't like Team Black get painted as bastardphobic regardless. Its a weak argument to disavow giving by looking at real critiques, and just going "oh youre just supporting treating bastards badly why should i listen to you"

As if people like me literally aren't massive Jon Snow defenders, who support Jon staying a Snow and being proud of who he is rather then him feeling like he needs a truename to be of value.

I mean people get angry just seeing them being called the Strong boys. Like use your eyes, people. They look just fucking like Harwin theres not a single drop of Laenor anywhere near those kids apperances.

I'm not trying to just diss the Strong boys, unlike what some fans will paint any criticisms as. Its all just really messy. You just cannot discuss them without Team Black throwing a tantrum.

#house of the dragon #hotd #game of thrones #a song of ice and fire #asoiaf #anti team black #anti targaryen #anti targ stans #anti rhaenyra targaryen #anti rhaenyra stans

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xboxseries · 9 months

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eris has been my favorite character for 10. fucking years and i genuinely know more about her than the people writing her. she really might as well be my oc at this point man

#like this does. nothing for her character development.#nothing touching eris in the past 3 years has done anything for her LOL #first they made her The Mom Therapist Character which is nothing. its nothing coming from someone who is that fucked in the head #its genuinely just Misogyny wrapped up in a But Look! She Looks Weird! bundle #and now theyre backtracking and just. making her a hive. the thing she literally hates the most in the world. that killed all her friends #even tho she already 'mastered' hive magic gotta make her the thing that ruined her life! with no further commentary. this is good writing .#mhm mhm sure it sure is lol #also they erased every relationship she had with a woman. ikora eriana mara. in favor of. drifter #and as one of the people who STARTED drifteris it was fine. until they hired a drifteris fanfic writerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr #straight woman that erased a characters existing relationships with other women in favor of her being a self insert. lol #whatever. shes a weird fucking dyke. shes a weird dyke and shed rather ignore your existence and kill bugs than play therapist for you. fuck

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bluescreenli · 7 months

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something something grieving a distant past you never had. something something grieving a distant future that’s uncertain.

what I’m trying to say is that Céline and Alear should be best friends, actually

#fe engage #celine #alear #something something parallels #👍 i’m back on my bullshit #it is INSANE to me how there are ppl who genuinely think celine is just the ‘i like tea’ character like.#?????? *gestures at alfred and alear and fogado and alcryst supports*. how do you come to that conclusion #the way alear is haunted by their past. the way celine is haunted by her (and alfred’s) future.#hrrrrrrgggfhghgjddhfhhg *biting a stack of notebook paper* i’m normal #the way (past) alear initially was closed off emotionally but eventually came to care so strongly because of their grief.#the way celine initially cared so much but eventually became more aloof because of her grief.#knowing your sibling is doomed to die and there’s nothing you can do about it.#gah the words are not word-ing but do you see my vision #my adhd rambles #something about how celine will outlive alfred. and alear will outlive everybody.#do you think alear fears the passage of time like celine does? before character development obv #because part of alear’s character arc is learning that the present is more important than the past or future

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quarks-pussy · 7 months

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Mirror Kira is something that can actually be so personal

#in a number of ways tbh like defo in a gay way and in terms of clone fucker rights and in terms of evil girlbossing etc etc but most of all #most of the mirror characters (to me) feel like au versions of the prime characters and obviously they ARE but they're still very much atta #attached to the prime characters y'know what i mean? like maybe not everyone but most mirror characters do feel like they basically are wha #the prime characters could've been if their lives had been different and like it's not completely out of the question for mirror kira but s #she still feels so... herself. like she's not defined by prime kira on any level. most mirror characters feel very defined by their prime c #counterparts and mirror kira... she's different. she is literally herself and no similarities will change that. she does not exist as an ex #extension of prime kira she is her own separate character. mirror kira could literally exist in the prime universe without even having to b #connected to prime kira by anything other than name and face. file off her serial numbers and you're golden & have a new and extremely comp #compelling villain. she is separate she's herself and nobody else. all the other mirror characters feel like twisted versions of the prime #characters who took a different path at some point. if there's any way to apply this to mirror kira that point would be her birth. like she #genuinely feels like they took a look at the circumstances on bajor in the mirror verse and thought about how a bajoran might grow up there #and THEN they made that bajoran kira. like i'm not saying she's nothing like prime kira but she just feels so much more developed tbh as if #they genuinely wrote out her whole life rather than just its present state y'know. it's great! i adore her #anyway #mirror kira nerys #mirrorverse #star trek deep space nine #ds9 #yes most of the meat of this post is in the tags lmao idek why #original posts fresh from quark's pussy

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fragmentedblade · 5 months

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Also, Ruan Mei was the one who lent the Phase Flame to Ratio, wasn't she?

#That Ratio and her were working together seemed to be the case since we first found him but idk #Ruan Mei plays dumb when we ask about him but I thought it was clear that she did know him #Herta also pretends she doesn't know him for some reason #cringefail acquaintance #Jokes aside I wonder why they did that. Is it because they both are ehm working behind each other's back #(Herta when it comes to the IPC‚ the SU and the bet‚ Ruan Mei kind of with everything)‚ or is it due to some other more complex reason?#Based on we've seen thus far I do think Ratio and Ruan Mei were working together in something #and that she was in the known of at least some things. Perhaps not everything #She seems to care about things beyond her research even less than Herta does #But given what we're told it seems fair to conclude the fire Ratio had was given to him by Ruan Mei #Herta said Ruan Mei needed it for some research. So either she didn't need it anymore and didn't mind giving it to Ratio afterwards #or maybe what Ratio was doing was something she was a part of. Or did Ratio steal it when he was around the seclusion zone?#I'm not inclined to think that tbh it seems to me Ruan Mei must have been knowingly implied. Yet now she owes Herta a favour #Which is more valuable according to Herta. This quest has left me very curious about the development of all this #Screwllum suspected Ratio since the beginning. I wonder if he suspects Ruan Mei too #Ruan Mei's line about Screwllum makes it seem like they don't get along too well I think. I have so many questions xD #I am very curious about all this‚ satisfied and potentially excited. Not yet excited but I sure have hopes for an exciting development haha #Maybe it will all end up being nothing but the relationships between the characters in the Genius Society (especially these three)#seems kind of messy and that intrigues me. The relationship the three of them have with Ratio seems intriguing too #Any iteration of these dynamics seems to be very interesting #Maybe it will all end up being nothing or I may be misreading or seeing more than there is but I am looking forwards to knowing more #I talk too much #Traces

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timegears-moved · 1 year

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WAIT i wanna talk about the ribbon for a sec because it's fucking hilarious how weak of a symbol it is for ash and serena's relationship. like serena incorporated it into her main outfit after her "advertisement for trainer customization in the xy games" arc and it's like meant to show how much ash means to her. meanwhile ash got the ribbon by complete random chance. for free. didn't put any thought into it. didn't even spend money on it. and he just gave it to her because he didn't want it. actually i've changed my mind it's the perfect symbol for their relationship because it's so painfully one-sided.

#bwark #like even in a platonic way ash only ever acknowledges serena's existence occasionally #and to be fair this is a problem with the whole xy gang #it doesn't feel equal because everybody is worshipping the ground ash walks on #but there's still at least some semblance of an effort for a friendship with clemont and bonnie. it's more believable #there's just nothing there with serena #don't even get me started on how her ''character development'' is her going from a sassy and funny girl to. a fucking housewife #and any development she does get outside of ash is made null in the finale with the ''i'll become a better woman for you'' thing #LIKE GIRL YOURE 10!!!!! GO EAT SOME MUD AND ROLEPLAY WARRIOR CATS OR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!#anyway xy is so funny. and by funny i mean bad

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murderbirds · 8 months

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You know, one of my least favorite things about season 2 (besides the reason why Galavan did what he did, Iwill get to this some other time, but Theo was an excellent antagonist ruined by his goal) was the fact that Galavan didn't kill Aubrey. Like, he becomes such a nothing character in later season and could have been easily replaced by basically anyone. Killing Aubrey would have shown just how dangerous Galavan was even before he killed Jerome and Gertrude. Hell, I would say that Aubrey's death could have replaced Jerome's, and they would have ultimately served the same purpose. He is just one of those characters that, by the end of the show, you can't help wondering why he lasted so long.

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silverselfshippingchaos · 2 months

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could cozy up to me- ahem

#ash rambles 💚#i love him soooo much! i know i get stubborn about it sometimes but he really does have my heart #him and ash get together post-game so i love writing him and his development and him learning to be a better person #theyre not together during the game. theyre enemies during the game. theyre also both kinda immature late teenagers/young adults #(i just wanna make it clear that there's nothing weird there going on!! he and ash have had mutual attraction to each other since they were #kids but they dont get together until theyre adults and he is an adult in canon!!!)#but back to what i was saying #his development with ash is sooo goooddd! they spend a little while doing mercenary work together! ash has quite long hair and man ajsjajsh #the way he learns how to take care of her hair always makes me soo warm and fuzzy inside! he may be a bit of a meanie but he is a #surprisingly affectionate bf! f.f8 s/i probably also straightens her curly hair like i do and he just likes helping and stroking her hair #there's a lot of playful bickering though! lots of matches of triple triad too! whoever loses does the dishes LMAAOO #man.. he's so handsome and strong... i love how he's always so dedicated to being a knight and a protector... i know he uses that as an #excuse to like. do horrific things in the game but!!! in the mobile game you can see him develop and i really do like his redemption arc #from mean ass bully to kinda mean ally that'll protect you no matter what. his character is so good especially when you consider that he's #literally been forced into training since he was five. lots of things to analyze and think about there #but back to the knight thing!! he always says he's ash's knight! makes my heart flutter hehe! though he is very well-aware that ash could #kick his ass... and he loves it! he's not big on using her beloved guns (shes very picky about who touches her sweethearts too) but he does #like watching her epic gunslinger gf in action hehehe! okay yeah i think thats enough rambling for now #i got sick 😔 i'm okay and it'll pass but expect a lot of half-asleep f/o rambles LMAAOOO #okay yeah. tldr: i <3 s.eifer a.lmasy #your knight until the end 🤍

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fellhellion · 10 months

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your analysis of dana is so good but also i finally realized who she reminds me of sorta: those people who will be like "i'm an empath, i know how people feel and it affects me sooo much" and then (a) be wrong about how people feel, and (b) be callous and self-centered despite their claims of being deeply affected by others' feelings

NO I SEE IT. I SEE YOUR VISION.

#dana is theoretically SO interesting and then you read 2099 and ur like oh. the writing really does not care about interrogating how #someone would rationalise or suppress thinking abt their transition from one stance to a radically different one #seriously some day I’m gonna fucking write Dana fic I feel bad that I rag on her so much for problems that are more an issue with how she’s #developed - or not developed as it were - when like. there’s nothing wrong w the idea that she has these kinds of traits #she doesn’t need to be a quote unquote GOOD person but I want to know how she THINKS. how she perceives herself and others #esp given how much she’s actually in the story and relevant to the characters’ relationships w one another #ask games #anon #also thank you for the compliment :D #also if this needs the tunes talks critical tag pls just say

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eosofspades · 2 years

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alright. hot take time

as someone who both loves Cayde-6, loves Forsaken, loves the ongoing Destiny plotline(s) and the themes therein, and absolutely Does Not Expect Nor Want Cayde to come back to life, i think the way a lot of this fandom treats Cayde-6 is. uh. incredibly fucking unfair.

as a disclaimer, again: i do not want Cayde to come back to life. i know it is not going to happen. i know the ongoing story of Destiny 2 is MUCH more impactful without him here, and i plan on making an in-depth post about it later.

now. that said. please for the love of god stop dragging his character through the mud to prove your point.

"Cayde had no reason to be in TTK" "Cayde was a weak character" "Cayde is a Nathan Fillion stand in" just say you have no grasp on this character and go!! Cayde was an INCREDIBLY well-written character, with an insane amount of depth and lore and emotion hidden behind a careless, aloof mask and it's so obvious if you look at him for longer than two goddamn seconds??

Cayde wasn't a bothersome idiot, and he wasn't incompetent, and "disruptive" wasn't his main quality. he was the optimist. that was literally his role in the story. the comic relief and the optimism. the entire reason that he had to die before we got into the darker storylines like Shadowkeep/Beyond Light/Witch Queen etc. is because, by the nature of being the optimist, he wouldn't fit into the darker narrative that Destiny 2 was about to steer into.

just. say that you don't like him and go. you don't have to like him. stop SAYING that you like him and then dragging his character through the dirt. he has an incredibly interesting story (and backstory) and boiling him down to nothing more than a disruptive asshole is a huge disservice to his character and to Bungie, who made a point of giving him a well-developed backstory, motivation, goals, lore, and a spectacular DLC that they clearly put a lot of time and care into!

(not to mention that whenever anyone tries to point out flaws in Zavala or Ikora to talk about Cayde, at least 2 dozen people will go up in arms about how disrespectful it is to put down another character to talk about the one you like, then will turn around and say Cayde had no narrative purpose or impact when they're trying to garner sympathy for Eris or defend Uldren.)

#i am so angry about this actually. stop dragging a well written character just because you dont like some of their fans #also i can guarantee you if i said ANYTHING about how much i hate mara sov without even MENTIONING her writing #(which is really good!! she's really well developed!! she's also an abusive and manipulative nightmare!!!)#i would have at least six people LEAP at my throat with claws outstretched to tell me i'm being sexist and she's got good WRITING #i don't know how to tell you this but hating a character's personality does not make you bigoted toward that character #also liking a character more than others does not make you bigoted towards the others #<- this is specifically targeted toward people who say that cayde is only popular because he's white-coded (which isn't even true????)#clovis bray is white-coded. cayde is literally just the optimistic comic relief he's not supposed to be societal commentary #at most he is PERHAPS commentary on masculinity/grief/unhealthy coping mechanisms #race has nothing to do with it. i say this as a poc please stop please let us enjoy things i'm begging #destiny 2 #cayde 6 #discourse #mine #analysis #i am going to have so many people at my throat for this post lets go #eos destiny essays

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chikkou · 1 year

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im rewatching community and just got to what is arguably the shows absolute worst episode - the one where britta finds out all her friends have been essentially getting paid off by her abusive parents, and somehow britta is the one at fault for being “childish”??

i find this episode so cruel in so many ways honestly, and not the least bc dan harmon, after giving britta a backstory that involves CSA (which her parents didnt believe happened), chose to convey the message that britta is 100% wrong & you should always forgive your abusers regardless of all else, and we as viewers are just supposed to be ok with that.

its extra evil too because dan harmon was fired from community in the first place because he was sexually harassing one of the shows writers, and now here he is actively denying the trauma of his female character who was a victim of sexual assault. like bro. this could not be more on the nose if it tried