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valyrfia · 28 days

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I mean this the nicest way possible but have you considered the fact that you just .. hate RPF? Wich is fine, like you said it's a gray area. It's not everyone's cup of tea, actually! It's not even mine because I actually came across those trailers you said! And I instantly went "ew wtf" and I clicked not interested, and then I another showed up, and clicked not interested, and then the algorithm went ok got it, and it's been a while thankfully, that hasn't showed up. So, what I mean is, there is content in the internet that is weird, that's for sure, but there's like... Ways to avoid it? And the way that this has been a persistent subject in your blog in such a deep way makes me think that you suffer it more than anyone, wich is fine but just, don't look at it anymore? I don't know what to say honestly because, again no to be rude but youre making the MOST out of it. And it's like you're treating fandom culture like this deep dark secret when its as public as it can be and I promise you the most a person can do is feel weirded out and mute that content, and hope it doesn't show up.! But for example, I hate povs content, and that has to be the most persistent content I've seen so far on F1, full of "you're the wife/girl/sister" blah blah and I'm a lesbian, I've clicked not interested so many times I lost count and IT KEPT showing up (until i figured muting y/n, driver x reader helps) so if it keeps you more calm there are ways to avoid content you dont like!

I get where you’re going with this but also, nah. I’ve always loved RPF and will keep consuming it whenever I can. I just make a big stink out of seeing it outside of tumblr and ao3 because of algorithms and the way I was taught to interact with RPF about fifteen years ago in which….these things have to stay within their intended circles at all costs. This is back when fandom content was not cool and mainstream and unless you kept your fandom life and your actual life very separate you get bullied to hell for it. Now, I often feel like the pendulum has swung a little too far the other way and there’s such a massive influx of new people because fandom culture is trendy that fandom etiquette is starting to collapse. The treatment of RPF being one of them.

RPF differs from POV content in two ways. The first is that POV content is a little more accepted than RPF in the general consciousness, usually because it’s het but also because it’s very obvious this is a self insert fantasy which while I imagine is awkward for drivers to see, can be easily laughed off as being so obviously just a fantasy. RPF on the other hand builds off of pre-existing relationships and lore and is usually slash, which already introduces an awkward element (and you can say the men shouldn’t have toxic masculinity all you like, it’s not just them that’s the issue it’s everyone who perceives them and the content), also it’s more difficult because people DO talk about these pairings platonically. In order to not experience Lestappen on my tiktok FYP, I can’t interact with any video that mentions those two in the same breath ever because the algorithm will eventually push me ship content even if I don’t want to see it and I click not interested. This happens over and over again.

I love RPF which am just on super high alert about RPF safe spaces being breached because I know from lived experience that it doesn’t bode well. This is also just personally not the way I was taught to interact with fandom, and again I’ve seen enough shit in my time to understand why that etiquette had to be enforced.

#anon #asks #keep RPF on tumblr discourse #there’s generally a breakdown of fandom etiquette and RPF popping up everywhere is a symptom of that I could talk for hours but

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wandaxpietro · 7 months

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everything goes so slow for pietro i am 100% convinced he's incredibly terminally online to get his dopamine hits. he's so active on twitter people are worried about him. he keeps getting suspended bcuz he keeps sending people death threats and doxxing them and then has to call tony up so he can pay to get his accound back. he shows up in front of houses of people he beefs with. he fights with teenagers online all day. the official avengers twitter account has him blocked.

#tumblr user ill-say-this-fast (ily) said he'd esp get really into discourse concerning wanda and literally #he searches her name up and inserts himself into any conversation he finds #he's deranged #i said this on twitter circle some time ago but fanfic is real in the comics and so is superhero rpf #what i am trying to say is i am 100% convinced he looks up fanfics of himself jdhfghf #reading scarletsilver fic kicking his feet twirling his hair commenting 'quicksilver would not fucking say that' but bookmarking anyway. et #he keeps dropping social media lingo and wanda never has any clue what he's talking about so she just smiles and nods #she's so nice and thinks of him so highly so mostly she assumes it's words from poetry he's read but actually his brain is just rotted #he gets pissed bcuz a teenager online he was fighting with called him 'old' at least once a day #etc.#luna is social media age now (14 ish) but she's only on instagram where he's not this bad so she isn't confronted with it. luckily #lorna thinks his twitter activities are SO funny though #magneto isn't quite sure how to use a computer (< joking... mostly) so he's not on twitter #but lorna keeps him updated on their daily tea sessions bcuz she thinks it's hilarious. magneto is very tired #ok i need to stop. i just have a lot of thoughts about pietro twitter okay.#we got that one glimpse in damage control where he tagged them to complain about an employee sgzdugdh he's just like that all the time #txt

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ljubitelj-sonca · 1 day

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How to find your way around Joblr!

Hello! This is your first time on Joblr and you're wondering how this works? So relatable, been there, this website can be confusing!

But do not fret. We're happy to have you here and want you to have a good time.

So here's a guide on how to exist on Tumblr dot com and how to have a good time being a fan of Joker Out on this website.

Collectively written by the Joblr Discord Server.

Here you'll find:

what you are getting yourself into

a step by step guide on how this website works

spoken and unspoken rules of RPF on tumblr

First of all, what are you getting yourself into?

Pros:

So many talented artists, writers, editors, gif makers, meme makers, it's actually wild! And they all do this for free!!

Long rant posts with detailed analyses on whatever new photos Damon has taken of the guys

Pics, Gifs, vids and clips of gigs, interviews and their social media, also often throwbacks (with sources/credits if the original posters didn't take them themselves)

So many lovely and unhinged thoughts people leave in the tags when reblogging your posts (more on how that works later) so you see direct reactions to what you've made

A very chill environment with virtually no drama or arguments (and we really mean that <3), the only thing we're feral about are the guys

Cons (or something):

The "what is Kris's hair colour?" discourse pops up every couple months

So many polls (but are we really complaining about that?)

You're intrigued! Nice! How does all this work then?

Step 1 - your blog:

Create your blog and customize it.

Unfortunately Tumblr is dealing with a lot of bots that look exactly like new blogs. So if you keep your profile picture and header as the default one, blogs you follow might think you're a bot and block you. TO PREVENT THAT: change your profile pic and header to something you like and maybe add something in your description, even if it's just "Hi, I'm just here to lurk, do not perceive me".

That shows other blogs that you're a real person and they'll enjoy having you as a follower.

Step 2 - general tags:

Take a look at some tags you enjoy.

Tumblr is all about tagging, which is essentially nothing other than a hashtag, but they're only at the very bottom of a post, in a separate little section. (Writing "#joker out" in the middle of your post does absolutely nothing, but if you use the tag "joker out" in the tags section, your post will appear in the "#joker out" tag on tumblr)

For example, we have tags for each of the boys, as well as a general "joker out" of course. But there are also tags for ships (more on ships later!). Find some you're interested in and take a peep inside.

(You can also follow tags to find them easier again later.)

Step 3 - reblogging (and more tags):

See a post you like? Reblog it!

Reblogging is just about the best thing about tumblr, it's truly the easiest and quickest way to connect with other blogs.

A reblog is a little bit like a retweet on Twitter, it is not a repost! You are taking a copy of the post and slapping it onto your blog, kinda like a scrap book. But the fun thing: you can leave your thoughts!

Here's where tags come back into play: they're not only to file your posts and to have them appear in tags, they're the place to leave any little comments you might have.

For example: you see a post with a gif of Kris at a gig, he's wearing an outfit you like and fun sunglasses. So you click on the little reblog button. At the very bottom of the post, you have the gray bubble with the tag "#add tags to help people find your post" (or whatever it corresponds to in your language) (or just "add tags" on mobile). Click it, and write what you think.

#Kris i missed you!! #he looks so good in that jacket #and also thank you to whoever gave him those sunglasses #<3333 #Kris Guštin #joker out

Then when you reblog the post, it will appear on your blog with those tags at the bottom. The tags you leave on a post will only be on your blog. Someone in turn can reblog the post from your blog and leave their own tags.

The original poster (short: op) will see all the tags people leave on their post in their activity and other people can see them when they click on "notes". It's so much fun to click through what people leave in the tags, be it your own post or someone else's.

Of course you don't have to reblog posts, the like button is there too. But reblogs are the only way posts are spread throughout the fandom, as there is no proper algorithm (which we're all very glad about!!!), and they're the way for you to personalise your blog. So reblog liberally! It's how this website thrives!

Step 4 - following blogs:

Follow blogs you enjoy!

In order for posts to appear on your feed (your timeline), you have to follow blogs, that makes sense. So when you find a blog whose posts (or art or writing or whatever they blog about) you like, give them a follow.

Now, on other websites it might be seen as creepy to spamlike someone's account. Here it's like the biggest compliment ever to go through someone's blog and like and reblog a lot of their posts (especially if you leave your thoughts in the tags). It is absolutely flattering!

Step 5 - making posts:

Make posts if you want.

It's totally fine to just exist on this website and to like and reblog stuff, there is absolutely no pressure. But posting is fun!

You made some art? You took a photo or video at a concert? You have a question about something or just a cursed thought? We'd love to see it! Slap it into a post and share it with the Joker Out world.

Add tags about the people involved so others can find it, a little "#my art/video/pic" so we know you made/took it yourself, and even share some behind the scenes thoughts in the tags if you want.

Tags for a drawing can look like this for example:

#this took me so long #but I'm really proud of how it turned out!! #the shading was a struggle but oh welk #*well #tried a new brush #jure maček #my art #joker out

And then others can like and reblog your post with their own thoughts.

Keep in mind: do not (re)post someone else's art/Gifs/writing without their explicit consent! If you do (with their consent), credit them (you can add links to text by highlighting the text and clicking on the little link symbol, then copying the link into the bar. It looks like this.) (Here is a handy guide on how to repost Gifs on Tumblr while giving proper credit at the same time.) Same goes for sharing photos the band, their photographers or their friends have posted on social media: give credit when needed.

There has been a serious issue with people stealing Gifs off of Tumblr and posting them on Twitter without consent or credit. That is not okay! People spend a lot of time and effort making them, having them get stolen like that is incredibly frustrating!

Step 6 - making friends:

Interact with other people.

Now, we totally get that this is scary. But think about this: everyone else on this website, in this fandom, is just some guy (gender neutral). We're all wimps giggling, kicking our feet at five slovenian men and their music. Honestly, there's nothing scary about us, even if it might feel like it.

But we love making friends! And that doesn't necessarily entail sliding into some DMs to talk to people (but you can do that, most blogs are super okay with that), there are many ways to interact with others on this website.

The tags are one way of course, for your own thoughts or to respond to something OP has mentioned in their post. Making posts and polls and asking people to interact with you is another way, then you can see their thoughts in the tags, how fun is that!

Another way is asks, which is a special bonus feature on Tumblr. When you're on someone's blog, some have a little bubble below their description with "ask me anything" or something along that inside (unless they have turned off the feature). Click that, and you can ask them a question which they can then respond to publicly (or privately) in a post.

People use this feature for writing or art prompts, ask games, birthday wishes, or just to ask random questions or share thoughts. You can even send anonymous asks if you're too shy (some people take advantage of that to send anonymous hate. Do not be one of those people!). But it's always nice to have a face behind the ask.

Keep in mind, not all artists/writers are open for prompts or requests. Some state it somewhere on their blog if they are or aren't, some reblog lists with prompts and explicitly ask for them. If you're unsure, send them an ask or a DM and ask about it.

Then there are also Discord servers of course. There are a couple different ones floating around. If you're interested in the Joblr one for example, feel free to send me a DM! :D

Step 7 - ignoring and blocking:

Saw something you don't like? No stress, just ignore it.

It's as easy as that. The best way to have a good time in fandom, is to focus on what you enjoy. So when someone makes a post you don't like or has a take you disagree with, just scroll past it.

If you feel like the blog and its posts you don't like keep appearing, block them. For real, the block button is your friend. And no one is going to be mad at you, promise.

Arguing on the internet is not fun for anyone involved (you, the person who made the post, everyone who sees your argument), especially when it's about personal opinions (that includes interpretations, ships, even kinks). So it's best to just. not.

There’s also the option to blacklist/filter tags, if you don’t like a specific ship for example, but it’s also really helpful for triggers you’d rather not see! On desktop, you do so by clicking “Settings” and then scrolling down until you see “Content you see”. There under “Filtered Tags” you can add tags you’d rather avoid, and under “Filtered Post Content” you can do the same with, well, post content. On mobile, you go to your blog and click the settings icon, then “Account Settings”, then “Content You See”. There you’ll find “Filtered Tags” and “Filtered Post Content”.

This way, posts that are tagged with the filtered tag or include the filtered word will be blocked with the message “This post contains filtered tags/content”. There’s also a button to view the post anyways, but you do so at your own risk of course! There’s content you’d rather not see behind it!

(Of course, if you see someone being bigoted, being particularly hateful or spreading misinformation, that's a different thing! It's totally fine to defend or correct someone. In most cases, the comment section or even DMs is the best place for that, to keep it about the people involved. Making posts about it, will let it get out of hand and is rarely necessary, unless it's really important.)

Spoken and unspoken rules of RPF (real people fiction) on Tumblr (and by extension: AO3)

(In no particular order)

1. They're real people.

Joker Out's members (and their friends) are real people we know virtually nothing about. We know that we know virtually nothing about them. And we are totally okay with this.

The people we post about, write fics about, draw are fictionalised versions of the real people (maybe with the exception of when we post pics/vids we've taken or share what they've shared on social media). Most of it is made up, because again, we don't know them. And in no way shape or form is anything we write/post/draw speculation about what they might be like in real life. We know this and are okay with this and that's exactly what makes RPF fun.

This way we can just make shit up! Wanna draw them in skirts? Give them random jobs? Trans their genders? Think about different dynamics? All of that is fair game, because it's all made up.

So when we call Kris a princess and Jan a babygirl, we are not reducing them to that or think that they're only like this in real life. In the next sentence, we might call Jan a hunky dude, and both are correct.

Same goes for ships. Ships like Jan x Nace, or Kris x Damon stem from the interactions the real people share with us, but in the end, anything we make of it is entirely made up and doesn't represent the real people at all. Be it an AU or something that could've happened during an event that really happened.

You'll often find disclamers like this (much shorter versions tho) in the beginning notes of fics.

2. Keep fandom in fandom spaces.

Fandom is not a secret, the guys are probably well aware of what's happening on social media in their fandom spaces (though probably no specifics). So far they have not expressed any discomfort with any of it, even encouraged it in some way or another.

If that ever changes, if they ever do say that they are uncomfortable with what is written about them, we will respect that and refrain from doing so. Their comfort comes first.

Still, we don't want them to accidentally stumble across something they haven't been actively searching for, so we keep it on Tumblr and AO3, where it's unlikely they'll just randomly find it.

So please refrain from sharing art/fics on sites like Twitter or Instagram, which we know they frequent, if the artists don't post them there themselves.

3. Don’t like? Don’t read.

This rule goes for basically everything on the internet and corresponds with Step 7 - Ignoring and blocking, but it’s helpful to repeat it here again.

You might enjoy being in a real people fandom differently than others. Maybe you don’t like reading fics about the people involved, or don’t like some interpretations others have of them. That is totally okay! Everyone enjoys different things.

But if you don’t like something, simply don’t read it - or scroll past it, or block the blog, or filter the tag, you get the gist. Receiving comments like, “this is so weird, why does this exist? Why are people like this?” is incredibly hurtful and will gain the commenter absolutely nothing (apart from others thinking they’re a super shitty person), so don’t leave them. Just go on with your day.

Tldr: Be respectful, be mindful, be creative, be open, and if need be, take a step back. That’s really all it takes.

Alrighty! Now you know a whole lot more about how Tumblr works and how we're existing in the fandom here.

We hope you're staying for longer than just to lurk about what it's like here, and that you're having a good time. We’re looking forward to going feral about Joker Out with you!

If you have any questions, the comment section is a good place to leave them, there others can find them and the answers as well. Or feel free to try out the ask button on my blog <3

#thanks to the lovely people in the Joblr discord for helping with this #we're genuinely having the time of our lives here #and we know and want you to have the same fun #joker out #bojan cvjetićanin #kris guštin #jan peteh #jure maček #nace jordan #joblr

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thearchercore · 5 months

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https://www.tumblr.com/f1reproofs/740664624896196608/why-is-the-f1-tag-either-lstappen-or-the-yn

i hate people like this

tbh in general, tumblr was created as a fan space where the fan-created content was gatekept from the people it involved. keeping any shipping discourse here is the way to go.

tiktok, on the other hand, has little to no tagging system and due to its algorithm nature struggles to protect the drivers from any RPF or Y/N content because anything, literally anything could land on your fyp.

that being said, a lot of younger fans only grew up with tiktok and therefore use it as tumblr (aka no filter because they can't comprehend how the drivers could see it) and that mayy be an issue in the future.

so, for the love of god, dont listen to that take and keep everything on this hellsite because the chances of max verstappen lurking on tumblr are literally 0.000001%

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blorbocedes · 1 year

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we NEED to bring back shame

there's like f1 tiktok that directly lifts their discourse/thoughts from tumblr. (stuff from my blog has ended up there and I don't even have a tiktok. hi person who posts nicology verbatim from here 👋) but then people fucking read and reference fic stuff (5 million word martian, a/b/o) and it gets a bunch of views cause younger zoomers r more open about fic culture/ao3. but this is rpf, there's actual drivers on the app, social media teams following on the fanbase trends (ferrari admin saying sebchal, carlando etc) and you can't filter content that shows up algorithmically. there used to be a social contract, esp in rpf contexts, that you Do Not post it where the real people involved can see it and keep it in your pockets of the internet, and tiktok does not follow that 😶

#fandom discourse #do not read

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parasiteking · 10 months

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RANTSONASTUCK

Doc Scratch does Mr Beast Squidgame 5 days a week

Terezi does legal videos. She's dating Vriska and drama came out of that but people liked Terezi so much they just let it slide

Aranea [blank] explained, Tumblr drama

Vriska does callout posts, starts shit, lies about other people. People hate Vriska. Doxxes people in her videos.

Gamzee does Slime ASMR.

Rose does fic reviews & witch discourse

Calliope and Caliborn share a channel (Yuri Review, Yaoi Review.) They keep unlisting eachother's videos. Popular because viewers think its a ARG (its not)

Aradia ask a mortician, collabs with Dave (arcade craniacs) on halloween and everyone is confused

Feferi is fishtuber with rantsona sprites who makes a video on Seaworld twice a year

Jane baking reviews, bad book reviews, gets into discourse for having billionare mom

Tavros makes videos on like. Peta n shit. Pokemon nuzlockes.

Jake does shitty movie reviews. Makes videos on selfshipping discourse. Turns into eboy thrist tiktoker after breaking up with Dirk. Sometimes Minecraft Youtuber.

Karkat twitter discourse explained for tumblr users, book rants, movie rants, makes apology video once every 3 months

Roxy makes the stock image animation videos. Made go kitty go. Doesn't use her rantsona anymore after she went to rehab.

Kankri defends SJWs but like in the worst way possible. has beef with Dirk.

Hal makes shitty unfinished ARGs, shits on Dirk, subscribers are bots, probably rants about a movie twice a year

Dirk makes videos about Brony drama and anime reviews. MLP Hypnosis

Porrim makes videos about feminism. Alot of people found her after Kankri made avideo on her and people were like "actually Porrim was right"

Kanaya makes videos on closed species, fashion blogging, celebrity fashion analysis

Dave makes like. newground animation review, shitty webcomic reviews, gets a genshin sponsership once but the videodoes so fucking bad he never gets it again.

Jade is a furry with a gun.

Nepeta does ship war videos and ship analysis videos. Does like, opposite of cringe comps where she shows the "cringy" video then is positive about it.

Eridan defends Harry Potter, make cringe comp reaction videos. Calls out "forced diversity"

John makes movie reviews. Point & Click games. Magic tricks. Danny Gonzalez collab

Sollux does coding tutorials, gets subscribers aafter he collabs with Roxy on a video about Yandere Simulator's code and people dig and find his channel

Equius makes videos about like. Body builder drama. Collabs with Nepeta to talk about Wrestling RPF.

#homestuck

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maicrowave · 7 months

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ello

I have some thoughts, but I want to say them in a way that isn't aggressive or patronizing.

obviously a lot of jokes and discourse are newly on the table in the modern dan & phil era, especially in comparison to 2013.

i think the main principle is to follow their lead. ten years ago, they were pretty clearly setting boundaries for things they Didn't Want To Talk About (sexuality, relationships). Boundaries that people (fans, coworkers, interviewers) crossed over and over. It's worth noting I'm not really talking about fanfiction here—banning rpf is futile, and, lest you forget Dan Howell said he has read youtuber rpf for fun—I'm talking about real life speculation. I believe that's what hurt them.

in the modern era, let's learn from that (probably kinda traumatic) time and follow their lead. they're both openly gay—gay discourse is fine! They're pretty ambiguous about their relationship (see: "are we gay? did we fuck?" quote from dystopia daily's 'Dan and Phil Tell the Truth' video), so jokes of that caliber are ok (imo).

On the other hand... Invasions of privacy? Trying to "prove" things about their personal lives that they've repeatedly stated they don't want to elaborate on? Especially posting that "proof" to public websites. Bringing up past content, posts, etc, that they clearly still don't want to acknowlege? Let's refrain.

Obviously dnp have come to terms with a lot of this stuff existing on the internet... then again, they didn't exactly have a choice. but here's my thoughts: tumblr is a public website, literally anyone can make an account. Dan and Phil want to get into the mainstream via acting/writing projects. If they get popular enough, mainstream media outlets will dig, and some of the personal old stuff is not hard to find... and even easier to look for if people are talking about it all the time. And I would hate, despise even, to see some detached popular media outlet make some "tea" article containing personal stuff from dnp's past that they've tried to move on from/delete. So just... keep in mind plz. I don't want to make them hurt/sad again.

tl;dr: if you're older in the fandom, let's set a good example for any incoming or younger ppl and meet dnp where they're at with the jokes & content, and avoid invasions of privacy!

#<3 #here's to the new era #dan and phil #phan #dnp #longgggg #i know people obsess over these things because it makes them happy to see them happy #but idt drawing attention to some of it is going to make them feel good/safe #or mayyybe they don't care at this point bc there will always be someone who doesn't rlly understand/care about boundaries #but it'd be cool if they trusted us as an audience #i guess we're all just individuals #one of us is a cannibal #statistically

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ultimate-top · 6 months

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Time for the tumblr girlies to go back to their roots: arguing pointlessly about who tops and bottoms, no verses allowed.

Submit who you think is the best top, whether that's a top whose best in your heart or someone whose best at topping that's up to you.

No hate speech or personal attacks -- keep it civil or you will be blocked. We may be reliving the old days but we don't need to reinvent the discourse.

No rpf (except the queen of england), no harry potter, no one direction. Also won't accept submissions from south park or hetalia.

Contestants will be picked by vibes and popularity plus some nepo selections.

Tagging for more spread @tournament-announcer

#polls #shipping

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icallhimjoey · 5 months

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I was wondering about what your feelings are on the discourse about likes vs reblogs for fics? You never really comment on how well your fics do, but you must run into the hardships of having something not do as well as you hoped it would like any other fic writer right? You also don't really reblog other writer's work. If you dont want to answer dont even worry about it, I really love your writing! 💕

oof

okay, i might... so, this might come off different to how i mean it. i want to preface this by saying that everyone is completely entitled to all of their feelings, all is valid, and all is fine

but i dont really care if you reblog my shit or not?

its so lovely if you do, and its so nice if you leave a comment, but a like? it means just as much to me. you pressing that little heart button "doesnt do anything" when talking about the way tumblr works, BUT, it does do something to me

its nice

i like it

makes me go :)

reblog if you want, like if you want, leave a comment if you want - all are equally lovely to me, dont feel pressured to reblog my things onto your blog if you dont want them there

i understand

because i dont want (many) reblogs on my blog either

i very seldom, if im like insanely into a fic, do reblog fics of others, but you're right, i used to do it more often than i do now

its bc im reading less on here and more over on ao3 + i want people to be able to scroll down my blog and find my content (its why i go in and delete so much random shit i post too, if i think something doesnt need to be there, has been there long enough for people to see, i'll easily get rid of it)

im also not reading any joe fics, at all. its just eddie, steve and steddie over here in this corner when it comes to reading. i only like my own way of writing joe, so... there's also that.

but i ALSO really understand that people really do want and push for people to reblog their writing, the feedback is really validating and motivates you to keep going

it's just that i feel weird enough about writing rpf as it is, i dont actually want that large of an audience (it's already too large, too many followers) (but the notes on fics dont mirror that so its ok)

#i hope im making sense #and that im not offending anyone #<3

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semperama · 7 months

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I don't want to start discourse or anything, because I like you all very much and I don't want to fight, but I just want to gently suggest that some of you are taking the idea of keeping fanfiction private a bit too far. I know we've had some issues with people reading fanfic for malicious purposes, which understandably makes people upset and makes them want to keep their fic locked down (and you absolutely should do that if you want to! I've done it myself!) but we should also be mindful of the fact that just because tumblr has a very high percentage of fandom people, that doesn't mean it's the only place fandom exists or is allowed to exist.

It's not possible to keep everything you do exclusive to your tumblr mutuals, and tumblr isn't the only valid place to share fic. There are large fandom presences on Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Tiktok, etc., and those people are going to be talking about and sharing fic with each other no matter what you do. I guarantee there are many people who have read your fic who came to it through some other website, and that's not only fine, it's good. Every single one of us here found our way to tumblr and/or to fanfiction through some other site; that's how fandoms grow and get new people, which is what we want! Some of the best writers in this fandom got here after I did, and many of them found their way here from somewhere else.

Again, I realize that people have valid concerns that are rooted in bad experiences, and the way you combat that is by archive locking your fic. But that is your own personal prerogative and a way you can protect yourself. It's everyone's own decision, and people who don't do it aren't hurting anyone or doing anything wrong. The only thing we shouldn't be doing is actively showing fanfiction to anyone who is in the fic, or showing it to malicious people who want to dunk on it. But different people have different comfort levels with who their fic will be available to, and that's okay. I personally would never have found my way to tumblr or AO3 if it weren't for the unlocked RPF I found through other writing forums.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not wanting to start a fight and I respect where everyone is coming from on this, but I just wanted to offer up a different perspective, because I'd hate for anyone to feel bad about something that's really just a cultural difference or a matter of opinion. Just some food for thought. <3

#fandom stuff #erin rambles

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valyrfia · 1 month

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i mean if i could be honest what's so bad about lestappen going mainstream? if it's a way to bring in new fans to the sport so be it

Is this how Cassandra felt at Troy.

I can break down how RPF breaches containment beyond repair in five simple stages:

The ship leaves tumblr/ao3/other locked sites and emerges in a big way on more mainstream social media with aggressive algorithms

The people or the social media teams notice that this certain pairing brings in more engagement so happily plays into it

This in turn makes people more comfortable with the RPF, since the people involved are playing into it. It becomes somewhat normalised online, fanfiction is shared around/goes viral on mainstream social media

This normalisation online starts to bleed into public spaces where people start to do really bizarre things related to the ship, such as asking invasive questions to the people involved, bringing weird or embarrassing signs or t-shirts, etc.

The people involved, realising what they have done, start to try and either monitor themselves or shut down the ship completely. This is where the conspiracy pipeline of secret relationships starts and the dynamic between those two people is ruined for everybody involved

Now with Lestappen we're currently in late stage 2/early stage 3, make of that what you will.

#asks #anon #keep rpf on tumblr discourse

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vicsy · 20 days

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what's the latest clownery on twitter about rpf?

people cropping out tags on posts with f1 drivers, the tags are clearly RPF related. then those people post them to twitter as a haha funny joke which invites the “tumblr people are freaks and should be removed from the internet” discourse. not to mention the fact that even if there are no names on the cropped screenshot, it doesn’t take a lot to track down the post and the person who left the tags. took me about 15 minutes and I did it to prove a point. that’s just another way to encourage bullying. rule of thumb always was to keep rpf stuff out of places where actual people involved can see. some twitter folks are actively ignoring this.

#anon asks

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momentsofamber · 4 months

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Hey uuuuh did you know... Ur big swaggy and hella stronger than ur demons? 😉👍 You've overcome them in the past to make it to today, you'll overcome today's with the lessons from the past, and the future doesn't know what it has coming to it 📣👏😁

Anon, this was so nice to wake up to. 😭 Thank you so much!!

I'm so sorry it took me all day to respond to this and I'm about to ramble so feel free to skim this, I'm gonna dump it under a read more. ( Do people even still use these in 2024? askdjhf )

I never directly attacked anyone in my time while pretending to be an anti. I was just completely silent on the matter, letting my morality complex and p.edophobia ocd wage war on my well-being.

It's ironic, I've been on this site since about 2010; and in 2012 when I started to be at my first most active point on tumblr and had a friend group on here, I would blog about Wincest (SPN) on main and no one said anything or thought anything of it, they just kept scrolling. That was the norm. People just SHIPPED whatever they wanted.

Flash ahead to like 2018 and suddenly everywhere I go there are now neon eyesore banners on posts, including fucking stimboards and whatnot with 'p.roship d.ni' and 'a.nti-a,ntis d.ni' ( I'm censoring that just so this post isn't blacklisted from proshippers because that is NOT my stance ) and I was like 'I don't even know what these terms MEAN?? where did these come from??' but I was too afraid to ask anyone so I just. Stayed silent and promised myself I'd only reblog "safe" content and that I was "happy" I'd "become a better person since then". ( spoiler: I was lying to myself. )

And over the years any time I made new friends who had never seen that content on my blog back then, I'd just say I didn't support Problematic Content(tm) and I'd only talk about and rp and reblog ships that were "normal", because I was now so afraid people would reject me at any time because it seemed like the anti crowd was so large and violent and nasty -- my mental health at that time would not have been able to handle that hatred.

-- in fact I had this SAME experience in the plural community with the a.nti-e.ndos for identifying as a median system. ( we know now that we are a bpdgenic osdd-1b system, but we still prefer most median terminology to describe ourselves. ) But the traumagenic DID systems who were pro-endo were so much more welcome to interacting with us than the exclusionists. And it's the same bullshit different flavor happening here with the proshippers.

How much overlap is there between a.nti-e.ndo and a.nti-p.roship rhetoric, I wonder? It's wild. I wish I had learned how to undo my black and white thinking so much sooner and listen to new points of view instead of just shying away from the unknown in fear.

But this is a new year, and this is a new me. This blog is going to be a source of love and positivity and learning about other people's experiences. Any discourse or negativity ( even the validating kind ) will remain on my sideblog. I don't have to like or even agree with everything I see online, but I am going to support people's right to say it, do it, make content of it, as long as all parties involved are consenting. ( Fictional characters, animated or live action, do not have the autonomy to consent or not consent so people can do anything they want with fiction that makes them feel happy and fulfilled, full stop. Yes, this includes RPF and selfshipping. As long as you keep your content in your safe space and no actors/musicians/etc involved in the creation of that character you're using are able to see it - I will support your right to make or consume any content as you see fit. )

#proship #proship safe #proshippers please interact #ambers.ask #ambers.txt

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