#just herbert fanfic

[boltupbitches]

Birthday Boy - Justin Herbert

Part 5 of the Layla Herbert series

Part 1 - One Day at a Time

Part 2 - Today's the Day

Part 3 - Cheer's To Us

Part 4 - My Daughter Thinks I'm Ugly

Today was Justin’s 26th birthday and Alex couldn’t be more stressed. Layla had woken up earlier in the morning with a fever and what was likely another ear infection. She was irritable and crying a lot. Alex was mentally drained as she closed the door to Layla’s room, making sure to double-check that the baby monitor was on.

Justin was due back in a few hours from a charity event he was participating in with his younger brother. Alex still didn’t get around to cooking his birthday dinner.

It was hard to believe that this time a year ago she was early in her pregnancy and not on talking terms with Justin at all. She had moved back to Eugene and laid low for a while. Months later she was raising a soon-to-be 5-month-old daughter and living with Justin while being in a committed relationship with him.

Life had changed rapidly for her in a year and she was so happy things worked out the way they did. She couldn’t imagine her life without her beautiful daughter. She couldn’t imagine coming home to anyone else but Justin. Some days were exhausting and tiring more so than others but if it meant she could have her small family to love and to hold on to, it was worth it.

Alex was just finishing up plating the steaks and shrimp skewers she grilled when she heard Justin’s car pull up out front. She shut the lid of the grill, making sure it was off, before she walked quickly to the kitchen from the patio and sat the food down.

Justin had come in quietly and sat his stuff down in the foyer before calling out for Alex, “Babe, I’m home.”

“In the kitchen!” She called back.

Within moments Justin’s tall frame came through the doorway. He grinned at his girlfriend and pulled her into a hug as soon as he reached her. “I missed you guys today.” He mumbled as he pressed his nose to the crown of her head and inhaled the familiar scent of her shampoo.

“We missed you too. Laylay is down for a nap. She likely has an ear infection again,” Alex sighed.

“Did you give her children’s Motrin?” Justin asked with a worried look.

“I did, but she was still crying quite a bit throughout the day. I think she’s teething as well. She’s got a tooth breaking through in the front lower row if you look closely.”

“We’ll call the doctor tomorrow and get her in for a sick appointment.” Justin sighed, “I hate when she gets sick. It feels like there’s not much we can do to fix it.”

“I know. I feel the same.”

Justin finally peered down at the plated food of steak, shrimp skewers, loaded baked potatoes, and grilled asparagus. His stomach growled at the sight of it. “What’s this?”

“Birthday dinner for you.”

Justin blushed and smiled down at Alex who was still in his arms, “You did all of this for me?”

“Of course! You’re my special someone and it is your birthday. Did you think this morning was the only present you were going to get?” Alex teased him.

Justin’s cheeks remained flushed as he remembered the crazy start to his morning that included a blindfold and some handcuffs. He was sure that was going to be one of the most memorable birthday gifts of his life - definitely top 5! 

“I love you.” He pressed a kiss to her lips, “So much. Thank you for being my number one supporter.”

“Always,” Alex smiled back, “Now help me take this to the dining room before Layla wakes up for her feeding.”

“Aye aye, captain.” Justin followed her command.

He was hoping for a round 2 tonight of the fun they had earlier in the morning. Birthdays were starting to be his favorite celebrations with Alex involved.

#justin herbert fanfiction #justin herbert one shot #justin herbert imagines #just herbert fanfic

[nicomoru]

Saw a tag on a fanfic that went “there’s only one bed (Herbert makes Dan sleep on the floor)” and that concept has been on my mind for days

#haven’t read it yet but the fanfic’s called Mourning Sickness if you want to #reanimator #danbert #herbert west #dan cain #daniel cain #re animator #re-animator #reanimator 1985 #fanart #digital #nicodoodles #like just try and tell me that ain’t the funniest concept in the world. like of course herbert would do that.

[sad-gay-cowboy]

look to each their own but I think it's just a bit odd in fanfics where like herbert has a complete personality change and is suddenly like "uwu, i'm actually really emotional and vulnerable and like such a virgin what's a kiss?" and like it's weird for a couple of reasons but honestly I find it a bit sus that this is done to the commonly perceived trans masc character

#it just feels a bit infantilizing you know #like the only way some people can make that head cannon work is if they feminize him #and like yes he IS actually really emotional and vulnerable you're right! #but in a bastard way #you think herbert 'garbage to garbage' and 'damn the bitch' west is going to suddenly start blushing and crying his eyes out #no i don't read these fanfics so it doesn't affect me #i don't like comment on these fics critiquing them #that's why i'm writing it here #reanimator #herbert #herbert west

[lunatic-fandom-space]

So, ive recently started reading german tanz der vampire fics on fanfiktion.de after mostly reading english ones on ao3 and fanfic.net and granted, so far ive only read the one shots and short multichapter fics and theres still a lot of stuff I havent read, but I couldnt help but notice that herbert and krolock tend to have a way worse relationship in the german fics. like, physical abuse seems to show up more frequently, but also krolock insulting and belittling herbert in a way that clearly upsets him and that isnt just him kinda playfully/harmlessly poking fun at his weird son, a lack of communication and connection that i feel is pretty universally there in english fics. And idk, i just think thats kinda interesting. does anyone have an explanation for that or is it just like, german-speakers have more daddy issues

#for the record i am not complaining about that at all #genuinely sweet father-son relations can be fun but i am an angst girlie at heart #and i wanna see herbert suffer sooooo badly you have no idea #theres like barely any herbert angst on ao3 #theres a little on fanfic net but thats mostly just liebeskummer related #tanz der vampire

[celtib]

so i'm imagining a Worm fanfic. post-Golden-Morning, Taylor Herbert is a one-armed college student in Zurich, just having had a frustrating time dealing with red tape at the American consulate. she's outside in an alley trying to manage a junker of a car when this guy offers her $10,000 to drive him to Paris.

#worm #fanfic #worm fanfic #taylor herbert #jason bourne #can't you just imagine the two of them being situational awareness buddies? #can you imagine Treadstone's reaction looking into the utterly nonexistent background of this one-armed girl?

[the-p-in-lgbtqa]

That's me in Dr. Ian Wright's fandom

So anyway i wrote a lil smutty fic about them (x Magic) if you take a look I'd be grateful 🥰😇😁

Words: 3.4k

Rating: Explicit

No archive warnings apply

Tags: Fluff and Smut and Angst

#i just created a relationship tag for the first time wahoo? #if you call it a crack ship I'd throw hands they were CUTE #ian wright #herbert magic williams #quantum leap 2022 #fanfic #mason alexander park

[foxilayde]

I’m reading this rn

It’s no A Stalwart Gem but it’ll do

#I gotta say a LOT of the fic authors on here are better writers thank kev1n j andrrs0n #his clunky-ass tell-don’t-show info-dump storytelling 😭 #let this bolster every one of you fic authors #carry yourself with AT LEAST the confidence of kev1n j anderrs0n #if you’re wondering why I spelled his name like that it’s bc I don’t want to hurt his feelings or incur his wrath #and yes technically he’s doing fanfic as well but like one of you bitches needs to usurp that throne #i just had to read a MAIN character saying “’my homeworld Giedi Prime’ #it’s just unnatural? #frank herbert would never

[paper-gold-theories]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR FANFICS ON A03!!! Your writing is sooo good and descriptive!!Do you plan to update the"First time for everything " one?I love it, genuinely hooked me and I've re-read it a 3 times already :3

Aww thanks anon 🥰,

I actually got distracted 😅 cause I had a lot of ideas, theories and fics while figuring out whether to make First Time for Everything fic a short fic where they went on a cute date or make a long term fic (which possibly might end with angst 👀)

Where they end up in a relationship where Kenning Flugslys and Herbert Leth are dating and love each other meanwhile Flug and GoldHeart hate each as their villain-hero identities.

GoldHeart fantasizes about taking Kenning on heroic dates like flying together and generally having the confort of hsving everthing out in the openbut he thinks it's too soon to tell him as they just started officially dating.

So in the meantime, GoldHeart often flirts with Kenning when he saves him or accidentally or purposely runs into him, in his civilian identity as he believes after he reveals his hero identity to Flug they will both laugh about it because who wouldn't want a hero as a boyfriend? (a villain, especially your Arch-Nemesis cough cough)

Meanwhile, Flug is confused and annoyed why his hated Arch-Nemesis which he often fights with is so friendly with his civilian identity and even flirting with him despite telling him that he has a boyfriend. He concludes that, much to his horror that he might have a crush on him.

For example:

Flug: Can you flirting with me. I have a boyfriend.

GoldHeart: Is he hot?

Flug: That's none of your business!

GoldHeart, turns away smirking: I'll take that as a no. ~

Flug, grabbing GoldHeart by the collar to make him look him back in the eye, offended: YES, HE IS!! AND HE'S HOTTER THAN ANYONE YOU COULD EVER DATE!!

GoldHeart: [literally has tears in his eyes as he attempts to hold back his laughter]

Seeing how extremely loving, loyal and passionate Kenning is about him and their relationship makes GoldHeart fall for him even more but at the same time, after a while he also becomes concerned that his boyfriend might actually hate him. But his boyfriend Kenning love Herbert Leth so he should also have some attraction to GoldHeart right?

Perhaps he took the teasing a little too far.

GoldHeart: Do you wanna get ice cream and fly off into the sunset.

Flug: I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!

GoldHeart: So do I but what he doesn't know won't hurt him.

Flug: YOU DEPLORABLE HERO -!!

But now GoldHeart thinks about it Kenning has acted that way ever since he met him in his hero persona, so there got to be some other reason why his boyfriend hates him.

So he becomes more determined to get Flug to like his hero self. Both in his civilian and hero identity.

___

Meanwhile, Flug is worried that his boyfriend Leth would break up with him after he finds out he is a villain and often attempts to try to make him see that villains are not as unlikeable once he gets to know him. Also both in his villain persona and civilian identity.

Additionally he often tries to get his boyfriend as far away from the area as possible before he attempts to do a crime to ensure that he would be safe.

This confuses GoldHeart on why his hated Arch-Nemesis is trying to ensure he's not in danger. He comes to a conclusion that, much to his horror, that Flug might have a crush on him and decides uses it his advantage to defeat his Arch-Nemesis and have petty revenge for all the times his Arch-Nemesis has defeated him.

For example:

Flug: Leth going to use this mall for an escape plan. We gotta get you out of here.

GoldHeart: Why are you always trying to 'rescue me'?

Flug: I - I um...I need someone alive to witness my success all the time and I choose you!

GoldHeart, bursts out laughing: Did you just pull out that excuse out of your ass?

Flug, getting flustered and nervous: No-I

GoldHeart, smirks: You like me, don't you?

Flug, face red: W-WHAT- NO I-

GoldHeart: Look, I'm flattered...I guess. But l have a boyfriend and he's the most adorable and amazing guy you could ever meet so I am not leaving this mall until I pick a new outfit for my date. So see ya!

Flug, getting even more flustered at the compliments his boyfriend is giving him but still has to stop him: L-look You look great in what you're wearing and I'm sure your boyfriend would agree.

GoldHeart: Well that does not mean I don't wanna look my best for him.

Flug: There's gotta be something I can do to convince you to leave this place.

GoldHeart: We'll I guess you could help me pick a new out

Flug: Are you being serious?

GoldHeart: Yes, I am being serious. The faster I finish my shopping, the faster you can do your heist.

[Flug's presence made everyone run away in fear at the sight of the dangerous villakn, causing there to be no lines. So GoldHeart was able to finish his shopping within an hour.]

Flug, exhausted: Okay we got everything you asked for, now can we go?

GoldHeart, being petty and looking at his nails: I just bought these new shoes and I don't want to scuff them.

Flug: Oh c'mon, I don't have time for this!

GoldHeart: Then perhaps you should carry me.

Flug: W-What! Be reasonable! I just helped you with your shopping.

GoldHeart: I am being reasonable. You can't do crime while I'm here. So either you carry me or I'm just gonna chill here for a few hours at a cafe until it's time to go for my date.

Flug, sighs: Alright fine! If it means we get out of here, faster I'll carry you.

[Flug gets into position and GoldHeart hops onto his back. Flug struggles to balance his weight and heads off and GoldHeart kicks him with his heels, as you would a horse.]

Flug, stops, outraged: ...Did you just kick me?

GoldHeart: Now who's wasting time? Yha!

[Flug staggers on, disgruntled. GoldHeart kicks Flug again, enjoying himself...while a passersbyers stares at the scene, perplexed and concerned]

Leth made Flug act as a security guard for him and rode him like a horse. And was having a time of his life because of it. When they got onto Flug's plane Leth observes the interior and sees if there is any weakness the plane has so that he can use it against his Arch-Nemesis during their fights. He also acts like a himbo and tries to push every button on the plane to annoy Flug and to understand how the ship works better while an irritated Flug attempts to swats his hands away. Leth also praises his boyfriend relentless infront of Flug thinking it would make him angry because he has a crush on him, only to make Flug flustered. Which makes GoldHeart think he is a bigger weirdo.

After Flug drops Leth off, he attempts his heist however GoldHeart was ahead of him and somehow predicted his well thought out escape plan shocking him. Flug didn't manage to get the loot but fortunately managed to narrowly escape and get to his date with his boyfriend on time. He was greeted and coddled by his boyfriend who seemed to be in a good mood (after being able to defeat Flug easily by tricking him), with hugs and kisses) much to Flug's delight as they went on their date, which brightens Flug's mood and he could forget about his earlier defeat.

This complex dynamic continues on, both of them discovering new sides of each other and until eventually, both of them end up having feelings for their counterparts making them feel guilty because they have boyfriends...

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I have some pending fics, prompts, and other stuff, but I might try to make some new chapters of this this fic and Let's Forget for a Moment over some other stuff but no promises when it will come out though. 😅

#villainous #villanos #dr flug #dr kenning flugslys #goldheart #gold heart #herbert leth #flug #villainous fanfic #villainous headcanons #incorrect quotes #villainous incorrect quotes #source: merlin #source: me

[soaplantro]

Did you read God Emperor of Dune and think "this was fun, but i dont vibe with the homophobia/sexism?" Well it's my favorite Dune book and I agree, so I'm writing a quirky little fanfic about it. It is both love letter and critique. It is horny, gay, and trans. The wiggliest man in the universe is calling the shots and everyone else just has to deal with it.

#god emperor of dune #dune fanfiction

[jester-lover]

Herbert West Fluffy Headcanons

Ok first ever fanfic head-canons!!! warnings: nothing, fluff(this is the writer’s first step into fanfic)

He really has a sleeping problem, try to get him to bed, and he’ll glare

The best way to succeed is to tell him you have his favorite food, he’s a sucker for a home cooked meal (it’s Alfredo)

He has bad dreams a lot, and if you comfort him, he will appreciate you forever

Soft forehead kisses make him weak in the knees

No matter how stubborn and futuristic he seems, sometimes he dreams of a white picket fence life, two kids, a cat, and all of his worries pushed to the back of his head

On the topic of cats, if you have one, they will be receiving all the pets they need (ignore movie canon for this, plz god I just need him to be a cat person)

If you are a POC he is forever jealous that you don’t sunburn bc this man seriously comes home a full lobster

If you watch tv with him he will criticize the show you’re watching

Man will hyper analyze Sesame Street if he wants

Except for old animation, he gets very nostalgic

If you ever stumble upon the lab, (I assume you expect something before) he will not know what to do

Him:

🧍🏻

Seriously contemplating everything

“Herbert I’ve known for weeks.”

“Oh- so, um… you are okay with it??”

“Sure, don’t get anything on the couch”

“Love you hon”

Okok he would def have nicknames but refuse to believe he does, he’ll call you hon, dear, darling, but if you ever try to return the favor, he’ll turn around so you can’t see how red he looks

You still notice, his ears are red too

Thank you! I would love suggestions on future fics and head-canons, I’m planning on focusing on a more desi reader based blog!

#herbert west x reader #herbert west #reanimator x reader #reanimator #horror #new fanfic blog #fanfiction #reader insert #poc reader #desi reader #gimme suggestions

[godlizzza]

If you’re still taking fanfic prompts, I’d love to read more about Dan and Herb training or teaching Piper about their work, I’m curious as to how that could have gone down over the years, no pressure though! Your work is really good! 😁

"Where are you?" Dan hissed into the phone.

On the other end of the line he could hear the blaring horns and revving engines of traffic. Herbert's voice crackled in his ear.

"Calm down. I'm on my way home now. Try not to let your blood pressure spike in the meantime."

Dan huffed in irritation. He ran his free hand through his hair before leaning heavily against the wall, the landline squished against his ear.

"Well, can you hurry up?" he urged.

"I'm going as fast as the road laws of this country allow me, Dan. Look, it's not my fault that meeting at the school went overtime. If that idiot art teacher would've stopped arguing with me sooner than none of this would be happening," Herbert said, his voice quickly following by the passing blare of another car horn.

When Herbert had informed him he'd be attending the elementary school's open meeting to discuss the budget, Dan had argued that really wasn't necessary but Herbert had been adamant.

"Have you seen the lab at that school? Even a roaming drug cartel would turn their noses up at it," Herbert had said, pulling on his coat in the foyer. "I won't have our apprentice learning science in such conditions."

Then he'd been out the door before Dan could get out another word.

"Piper's already here," Dan hissed, casting a furtive glance over his shoulder at said apprentice, who was spinning around on one of their bar stools. "What am I supposed to do?"

"She's eight, Dan," Herbert drawled. "I'm sure you can handle it. I have to go now. You're distracting the driver."

"Herbert-"

But Herbert had already hung up. Dan let out a long, aggravated sigh as he hung the phone back up on the wall. He was granted only a moment to compose himself before Piper chirped up from her seat.

"Where's Dr. West?"

Dan turned to find Piper staring up at him with her impossibly big blue eyes. He shuddered. It was like being stared at by an owl.

"He's running a little late but he'll be home soon," Dan replied.

"Okay," Piper said, jumping to the floor. Her pink sneakers were caked with dry mud and Dan cringed as they squeaked against his clean floorboards. "Can we start now?"

Dan began, "I don't think-"

But Piper took off before he could finish the sentence. She raced down the hall and Dan hurried to try and catch her. She unlocked the basement door and was flying down the steps in seconds.

"Wait!" Dan called after her, hopping into his work boots and nearly falling over in the process. "Piper."

"I'm not doing anything," Piper called back sweetly. "I'm just looking."

"Well, stop," Dan ordered, finally pulling his left boot on and straightening up. "You know you're supposed to wait for us to open the lab before you can come in."

He stomped down the stairs to find Piper balancing on a chair, stooped over the head of their latest cadaver. She had her hands braced on the operating table, bent so low her nose nearly brushed that of the corpse. Dan's heart seized in his chest as visions of Piper losing her balance and tipping forward, straight into the open chest cavity assaulted his brain. He rushed down the last few steps to grab Piper's arm and yank her back.

"Stop it," he snapped, hauling her back to the ground.

"I'm just looking," Piper said again, a whine creeping into her voice. She stared daggers at Dan's hand locked around her upper arm until he let go.

"Stop just looking then," Dan told her but she was already scurrying off, poking her nose into the latest barrel of reagent.

Dan's temples throbbed as he tried to corral her, but Piper didn't pay him any head, no matter how many times he told her to stay still. Herbert never had this problem with her. She hung off his every word and would never dream of directly disobeying him. It seemed she reserved this defiant streak only for him.

"Piper," Dan warned as she picked up a pair of forceps from the tool tray, "if you don't put that down right now, you'll be banned from the lab for a week."

Piper narrowed her eyes at him, clutching the forceps like a dragon guarding its treasure. "You can't do that."

"Oh, really?" Dan shot back, his tone seeped in faux cheer. "Well, why don't I call Dr. West right now and see what he thinks?"

Piper went still, her eyes growing wide and fearful in an instant. "No, no- Don't!"

Dan reached into his back pocket and pulled out his cellphone, flipping it open. "No, no, I think I will. If you're going to break all of our rules I think he should know about it."

He began punching in keys and Piper dropped the forceps with a clatter. She flew across the room and clutched at his shirt, tugging desperately.

"No, please!" she begged. "I'm sorry. I'll be good. Please don't call him!"

Dan looked down at her beseeching gaze. When he didn't say anything, she threw her arms around his legs and buried her face in his side.

"I'm sorry, Dr. Cain," she sniffled. "You know you're my second favourite doctor."

"Gee, thanks so much," he deadpanned, but put his phone away anyway. He gave Piper a swift pat on the head.

He'd seen Piper hug Herbert on multiple occasions, and while Herbert always looked a little disgruntled, he never pushed her away. Sometimes he even hugged her back. When Herbert had suggested- well, more like informed- Dan that Piper be their apprentice, Dan had thought he'd just been excited at the thought of having a willing ear to impart his theories onto. He hadn't anticipated seeing an odd paternal side of Herbert emerge.

He wasn't sure he liked it.

Actually, he definitely didn't like it.

When Dan was younger, in the days before he knew Herbert, he'd always thought kids would be a part of his future. But after Herbert and the reagent had been introduced into his life- after they'd stumbled into love- thoughts of a quiet life with a wife and kids had quickly been erased. It had always plagued him though. What would having a child be like? Was he missing out on something amazing?

Piper's entrance into his life wiped away any lingering doubts he had. Dan thought he much preferred it when it was just him and Herbert.

Herbert came home about fifteen minutes later. He descended the stairs to find Dan standing watch over Piper while she dutifully wrote out the lab rules.

"Hello?" Herbert said with some confusion.

Piper perked up at the sound of his voice. She let her book and pencil fall to the floor as she raced across the lab to throw her arms around him.

"Hi, Dr. West!" she greeted cheerily. She was almost glowing with happiness at the sight of him and Dan thawed slightly to her.

Herbert grunted but placed his hand softly on the back of Piper's head. He looked over her at Dan and raised an eyebrow. Dan just shrugged in answer. While he didn't think he'd ever have that same warmth with Piper that flowed between her and Herbert, he thought he could learn to live with her presence.

After all, they shared one thing in common: a love and devotion to Herbert West.

#thanks anon! youre sweet #lets go pta dad herbert #dan cain #piper skrelpton #herbert west #danbert #re-animator #my fics #asks #writing prompt #reanimator #thr couple down the street

[randomnameless]

Localization discourse has started to rear its head again because of some Funimation localizer defending a line from Dragon Maid but it really got me thinking, I feel like so many people are so quick on demonizing anyone who doesn't like localization changes as pro-GG when it's much more simpler. People don't hate localization changes because of the message itself but rather because it's not what the character is saying 9/10 and it comes off as calculated and cynical. I feel like it's kind of a direct consequence of transformative fandom, with the whole "I'm going to write the story the way I want it to be and fill up the spaces" but instead of a fanfic it's with the original source material.

Pro GG?

What is GG? AI?

I remember this argument of the "it's not what the character is saying" and people being pissed because they couldn't get the "right" script - and tbh, after reading some arguments here and there, localisation always comes with necessary changes/adaptation to the text, let it be grammatically or to convey ideas from a language to another, so if you want a 100% faithful script then... better start to learn the language lol

With Funimation though...

The Shinchan earlier post was telling enough of my opinion about drastic changes that aren't used to transcribe a meaning or convey an idea to a foreign audience, it's just... erasing the source material and swapping your own ideas on them.

Like, uhhh

Funimation acquired the Shin-chan US license in 2005. Funimation's dub takes many liberties with the source material and was heavily Americanized. Many sexual references, dark humor, and references to then-current popular American culture were added, including many jokes about subjects such as Jews, terrorism, and Viagra. Characters were given significantly different personalities and new, previously non-existent backstories. For instance, Shin is refused an allowance, on he basis that he could use it to buy drugs (crystal meth), his schoolmate Kazama ('Georgie Herbert Walker Prescott III' in this dub) was an absurdly hawkish ultra-conservative Republican, the unseen father of Nene (known in the dub as "Penny") was suggested to be physically abusive towards both his wife and daughter, Principal Enchou was rewritten as a half Romani, half Peruvian man with a complicated, checkered backstory that includes a stint as an accident-prone magician, The kids' teacher: Yoshinaga-sensei (known in the dub as "Miss Polly"), was rewritten as a kinky and often domineering nymphomaniac,

The earlier Vitello and Phuuz dub also edited some jokes and/or what was considered indecent exposure like shin's buttocks and tried to "occidentalise" a few references, but it wasn't like straight up changing what a character is or their personality!

No doubts funimation was "authorised" by whoever had the rights of the franchise to lolcalise and edit it as they did but it just comes out as a "why did they rewrite that stuff like they did", to make more money, to make another "mature cartoon" like Family Guy expy, idk.

And to be honest... I don't really care, because I grew up with the Vitello Dub and read some manga chapters of Shin-chan, so I know what the manga/anime (sure, the dog wasn't named lucky but shiro!) is supposed to say and/or be about.

I don't agree when you say those "lololcalisations" are a consequence of the transformative fandom in general, transformative works have existed since... forever lol (some dude wrote in the early middle ages (grégoire de Tours?) how Franks are descendans of Achilles or something to explain how kickass his king and his people are like, at this point, he's writing a self-insert OC story, right?)

But in modern times, there used to be a clear (?) divide between what was transformative work and what was canon - 50 Shades of Grey sort of started as a Twilight fanfic, but it became its own thing and no calls it a Twilight adaptation or "Twilight" anymore.

The Aeneid? Despite what devoted fans wants the world to believe, is "just" a fanfiction, aka someone writing about the characters he """loves""" no matter how OOC they are. It's a Fodlan fanfic and treated as such. Or should lol.

Still, if in a fanfic, Flayn can apologise for being born as a lizard because having lizard blood means she's automatically evil and oppresses humanity due to the fact she exists, it's only a fanfic. It's not something I like, OOC as fuck, but okay, moving on. Rhea eating ketchup is my own hc, also OOC since we don't see her eating any in the games, same thing - but fanfics are OOC by essence because they're a transformative work !

As I said, okay, moving on.

But when what is supposed to be as close as "canon", albeit translated, dips in the same "OOC" territory?

Sure, Eng!Raphael will say "I" instead of "ore" to refer to himself - and yet, imo, if professional localisers (at least the people picked by the company to bring games to an international audience!) have some sort of leeway with canon, their work is inherently transformative - since they're localising -they are still bound by some rules, unlike a fanfic author, because the aim of their work is not the same.

When you write a fanfic, you write it for yourself, to tell the story you want.

Of course it depends, like the funi shin chan dub showed, but usually, I think, when you are a professional localising something (a manga, anime, book, tv series, myth, story, anything!) you are supposed to only bring "necessary" changes to the source material to bring this source material to the "targeted audience".

And it's kind of hard to determine at what point is a "change" necessary or not - back in the 2000, "Jonouchi" had to be changed in "Joey" because, supposedly, non japanese children wouldn't be able to understand/connect/watch/idk a show with a foreign name (even here in France, we got "Petit Coeur" aka Small/Little Heart for... Piccolo in the early 90s!) - but now in the 2020s Midorima isn't dubbed "Mike".

(even if 2013 saw a localised Fates edit "Suzukaze" to "Kaze" for reasons as foggy as Fodlan's 10k years of lore)

And we of course have the notion of "targeted audience" - here in France, in the 90s, basically any "animated cartoon" was supposed to be targeted for children, like 3 to 10 years old. Which is the reason why we got lunar dubs for Hokuto no Ken and City Hunter (no "brothels", but instead, "vegetarian restaurants"!).

Yugioh was dubbed for a younger audience than, I guess, what was the targeted audience for the manga (even the original anime, regardless of the dub or not, feels like it was made for younger "children" than the ones who would read the manga!).

And this is where I wanted to come with the modern "transform the source material!" lolcalisations - are they "heavily" edited because they target a specific audience?

Like... the funimation Shinchan dub was obviously not aimed at children the manga, or even the original anime, hell even the Vitello dub, were targeting.

It's almost as if we're not talking about "bringing this definite thing to random people", but "finding/tweaking random things to definite people".

Take Fodlan's lolcalisation, especially Treehouse/Pat's.

NoA was the only regional branch to have, on the official website, something like "the Church controls Fodlan".

Through the 4 (already 4!) years of coverage, some people are still finding dub exclusive lines that portray the CoS as "BaD" or in a more negative light than the original text. Pat completely missed (or was it on purpose?) Rhea's character, so Leigh had to dub Rhage, when Supreme Leader was scrubbed off her most, uh, dubious personality traits (tfw no information campaign anymore :( or calling Rhea a Nabatean as an insult :()

Why? Why those changes? Is it because Pat/Treehouse didn't want to bring the game to the US, but wanted to bring this game to the "Dany revolution yas slay kween" crowd + the "organised religion especially catholicism BaD" crowd? Or because they thought bringing "a game" to this crowd would bring more money than to bring "Fire Emblem Three Houses" to the general US crowd? So they "reworked" FE16 to have messages that would attract this certain crowd ?

(and apparently it worked, iirc the US sales made up for 50% of FE16's sales, so it was very popular (and profitable!!))

The Pat/Treehouse changes weren't "necessary" to understand the source material, or try to find similar references (a trip to a hot spring in Shinchan was replaced with a trip to Paris, because children who might not be familiar with japan might not know what is a hot spring, or what a "trip to the hot spring" is supposed to be), so why were they made?

Is it like the Funimation dub? To reach specific people, even if the meaning and essence of the original material is lost?

In a nutshell, I don't think localisation companies (Treehouse or Funi) work in a vaccum, if they can lolcalise so much, it obviously means they got the authorisation of whoever has the rights to the original source material (maybe even the creator themselves!) to "edit" the content...

But that's what I came to regret the time where localisation, even if they had westernised names and more westernised refs, wasn't that "free", as in, Funi and Pat/Treehouse write their fanfic of Shinchan/FE16 ? Sure, why not, I mean, everyone can write a fanfic. Can I get a peak at the original source - edited as necessary because i'm not reading in the original language and I might not catch all references - please? No, because the only thing available is either something I cannot understand, or a fanfiction that takes liberties, as fanfic do, with canon.

Take Shinchan.

OG : Shin is a preschooler who has a dog named Shiro - meaning white - because his dog is white.

Vitello dub : Shin is a preschooler who has a dog named Lucky.

Funi dub : Shin wants an allowance but his parents are afraid he will buy meth and he has a dog named Lucky.

Remove the "old school" Vitello dub, and either Shin is a preschooler who named his dog "white" because the dog is white, or Shin is... a young child who receives money but lives in an area where he could buy drugs.

I can't understand the OG material, and I know the Funi one is a fanfiction, so what should I do? Treat this fanfic as canon, or, learn the language/try to understand the material by myself using dubious tools like translating apps? Or am I cursed to forever miss on Shinchan, even in the 2000s, aka an era where people can translate and localise movies from one language to another, but apparently for this one manga/anime, it's not possible unless it's lolcalised? Snowhite was turned into "Blanche-Neige" but the story is mostly the same than the one told in the US, but for Shinchan, I can only get the "Family Guy" version that isn't told in Japan?

I remember there was a controversy about localisation (when the thing that sparked that controversy wasn't even localisation related!) where some people, annoyed with the "liberties" they have with their dub version, became intense and rude and want to see localisers as "mere" translators...

And it escalated to have some localisers basically saying a game they localised is "their take" on a story - which is true, because each translation/localisation works with the bias of the translator/localiser, even if they try to be as neutral as possible, they can't completely remove themselves from their work -

Still, in FE16, Pat'n'Treehouse removed the "Supreme Leader uses propaganda" mention. Why? Is it their bias talking, they don't want her to "look bad"? But the script, the game wants the player to know she uses "information campaigns". Pat's "take" is she doesn't use it, but as a player, can't I be offered the choice to make my own take after seeing the script that mentions it, or not? Is Pat the one who directed the script, and wrote it as the "main thread" that links everything in the game (regardless of Fodlan's consistency lol), or was it Kusakihara/someone else?

If pat arbitrarly "removes" this part of the script, but I see it because I play in Japanese/Chinese/Korean/heck maybe other languages whose dub wasn't overseen by Pat, can it be said I played the same game as the players who played with the Pat dub/script?

Pat's CF!Felix calls Dimitri a monster, OG CF!Felix calls him a man -> thankfully we can count on fans to find stuff like this out but, again, why this bias against Dimitri in CF - that comes here from the lolcalisation, and not from the original text?

Why is it there? What if someone wants to play, and hopefully, understand, not Pat's "take" on their relationship in CF, but the writers/developer's? Is that someone fucked, or kindly asked to learn japanese (aka to do Pat'n'Treehouse's job?).

I don't really have The Perfect Solution (tm) anon to the general localisation discourse, at one point I was on the "just translate" fence, but when you understand a pun or a reference, and how it connects to something else, the game/book/anime/movie you're watching takes another level and it's much more enjoyable!

And yet, growing up with 4Kids and seeing shit like Treehouse butchering stuff, or hearing about Funimation Shinchan is... disheartening.

The only thing I can say is I'll always be rooting for dual audio, let it be for preferences but also to get at least what is easily understandable to everyone (I mean intonations, shocks, laughs, etc etc) and a glimpse at what the game/moving/anime is supposed to be enjoyed, especially with story heavy scripts like the FE series - while reading subs, because even the script is translated/localised, at least with the audio, it's easier to spot "lolcalisations".

And let's not forget the most important lol

The Fandom itself!

Let it be for FE, Tales or anything else, what I find fascinating (on Tumblr but even on redshit and SF once upon a time!) is how fans will be able to compare scripts, people familiar/fluent/who know a language will be able to spot the changes, and inform anyone who wants to be informed in the community that, say, Xander and Marx are pretty different characters, just like Jp!Effie and "I love to eat"!Effie.

Of course sometimes there will be misinformation (remember the Dimitri is rude because he uses the omae pronoun?), but I still find fascinating how, faced with ridiculous lolcalisations, fandom itself - aka part of the people who were supposed to be the targets of said lolcalisation - tries to "correct" and remove the unecessary edits. There are still people who dgaf about what was lolcalised from what wasn't, but even if it's just a consequence of the lolcalisation growing more and more unrestrained/unchained to the source material - it makes fandom engagment all the more precious and fascinating.

Like, you have real people basically combing the script and/or providing a translation - for free! - to help other fans, when some lolcalisers are paid to... edit and "lolcalise" the script some fans want to see.

And so, we're back to square 1 : who is the targeted audience of Funi's Shinchan or FE Treehouse?

The players/watchers?

FE Fates was, I suppose, ultimately lolcalised for a """western"" audience", aka an US one because no one gives a fuck about the rest of the world - and yet, assuming a majority of fans are from the US, said lolcalisation was mocked/ridiculed and ultimateld decried by part of that audience from who the game was lolcalised.

Some people (I've seen a redshit post about it today!) claim the lolcalised changed aren't made for the audience, but, much like a fanfiction, those changed weren't made to be more palatable to an audience, but were made for themselves - aka to push some agenda (see redshit's theory about funi pushing a "woke" agenda in their dubs and subs when it doesn't exist in the og scripts).

And to be fair, with FE16's US exclusive "Church BaD and controls the world!!!" + "Dimtri is not a man but a monster!", idk what Treehouse was trying to do, push their "organised religions BaD" agenda and "Supreme Leader is right so let's make her opponents BaD to highlight how right she is" bias? - but I can't help but wonder if it was indeed the case, and given how Pat sucked as a voice director, if the localised!version wasn't just some sort of trolley Treehouse used to convey their ideas, regardless of what the game wanted to say.

I mean, it's still fascinating, to this day, nearly 5 years after the release of the game, that we still find "Treehouse exclusive" lines, or how FEH who's still running, also has "Treehouse exclusive" lines for Fodlan characters that absolutely don't match the non global, aka, jp lines, let them be written or spoken - putting on the tinfoil hat, I wonder if Treehouse or whoever oversees the localisation isn't deadly afraid that if they don't pay extreme attention and/or rewrite anything related to Fodlan, global!players will realise that they were fed "Pat's Fire Emblem Treehouse", instead of FE16, thus takes extra care to comb and/or rewritte every line/dialogue that could make a global player think twice and note that this thing they're reading/hearing of in FEH (or even Engage!! See Dimitri's lolcalised line about people of different races living together!) is completely different from "Pat's Fire Emblem Treehouse".

Tl;Dr because I ranted and disgressed and idk where am I anymore with this post lol :

I think there's a difference between fandom's transformative works - done for fun, as a hobby! - and some lolcaliser's transformative works - they're paid for that and aren't supposed to bring a fanfiction to the audience, at least not as localisers ; so I wouldn't blame "fandom" for the fuckery that happened (Funi's shinchan is more than 17 years old!) and is sadly still happening.

On the contrary, given how fandom (at least some part of it) actively refuses to accept the lolcalised "fanfiction" - to the point of doing translation work! - I think fandom is the reason why this discourse is happening.

#anon #replies #sorry i ranted lol #and lost myself in localisation discussion lol #anyways that redshit thread had a meme about lolcalisation and using AI to push back against it #and I haven't changed my mind lol #AI sucks instead of letting Pat head Treehouse bring back human translators and people in general with a work ethic #who will localise what needs to be localised for an audience #but keep themselves and their messages/agenda out of their work #as much as possible of course #i wonder if at times all those lolcalised changes couldn't be sued for plagiarism #imagine if the french Snow White dub had her diss cream cheese to promote real cheese during the length of the movie #people would be pissed just like creators themselves #otoh if those ultra lolcalised changes passed the approval stage from the creator themselves... #then I'm just wondering what kind of idea they have of a 'western audience' or whoever the lolcaliser #said they were lolcalising for #Are we supposed to believe in 2015 IS really believed americans were too dumb to pronounce suzukaze so his name should be shortened to kaze #I say americans here because NoA exists when NoE doesn't and no one gives a fuck about us we're just eating scraps #idk #lolcalisation issues #real life issues #when you were saying calculated and cynical anon did you mean whedonspeak like the Supreme Replies #aka giving a witty one liner to sound cool? #I'm afraid I completely lost the message of your ask and replied with something compeltely unrelated :(

[extremelyputridfishbreath]

CLUB PENGUIN OC SHOWDOWN (Side B, Round 1 Match 15)

BIJOU THE STEALIN' SEAL - PROFESSIONAL THIEF

"

It is currently unknown when and how Bijou arrived on Club Penguin, but she has shown no intention of leaving empty-flippered! This sly seal loves nothing more than to rob, scam and swindle the good citizens of Club Penguin and lavish in her ever-growing hoard of ill-gotten gains. She boasts a proud criminal record of everything from grand theft to petty pick-pocketing and is willing to charm or intimidate any target as she sees fit. Bijou is considered a top-priority threat by the EPF and penguins are advised to keep their coin pouches - and hearts - on guard at all times!" toonirl's testimonial

WHY VOTERS SHOULD VOTE FOR BIJOU:

"You will vote for Bijou the Stealin' Seal. This is non-negotiable. Doesn't matter if you like her opponent more, if they're the OC of a friend of yours, if you're swayed by propaganda, whatever. She'll just steal your votes anyway. Bijou will steal EVERYONE'S votes! Every vote will be for Bijou whether you like it or not! YOUR vote will be for Bijou whether you like it or not. Might as well just give it to her and save yourself the time~. :3 #BijouSweep"

ADDITIONAL INFO:

• Bijou's Toyhou.se profile - https://toyhou.se/6562279.bijou-the-stealin-seal • Lore/Ask event, aka The Bijou Takeover - https://www.tumblr.com/toonirl/tagged/the%20Bijou%20Takeover

JAZZ - ACE AGENT

"This is my main Ace! They're designed to be something of a foil to Herbert- she hates the cold, loud noises, and is often overwhelmed by parties, but instead of being a little bitch about it, they actually try to deal with these "them" problems (bundling up, avoiding large groups, etc). He's also a massive nerd with some impulse control problems, and is a huge lesbian for Dot.

Jazz used to be an employee at the Pizza Parlor, mostly handling deliveries, but she quit this job to work at the Sport Shop. They're not particularly athletic and, in fact, aren't fond of sports, but her idol, Gary T. Gadgets Guy owned the place, so it wasn't an opportunity she was gonna pass up. For a while, they just worked there stocking shelves and occasionally doing coffee runs for Gary, until one night he popped into one of the dressing rooms for a suspiciously long time, leaving only a cryptic note behind on the floor. This turned out to be a puzzle to enter the secret door in said changing room, and then oops! Guess you're a secret agent now! (Bonus fact: Jazz didn't discover there's meant to be an actual test to join the PSA until WAY later down the line. The first two PSA missions were arranged to make up for Gary deciding that Jazz should skip over that part of recruitment, and they DID have to do the proper EPF test later down the line.)" fullmoonfireball's testimonial

WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR JAZZ:

"her gay autistic swag makes up for the fact she's br*tish"

ADDITIONAL INFO:

" tag on my blog: fullmoonfireball.tumblr.com/tagged/Jasmin // fanfics featuring her: https://archiveofourown.org/works/23098360 https://archiveofourown.org/works/40641750 "

Character art by: BIJOU CENTRIC: fullmoonfireball (concept, name) - Tumblr; monsterbeachparty (concept) - Tumblr; toonirl (visual design) - Tumblr; dungeonraided (concept) - Tumblr; chaotic-spork (concept) - Tumblr, Jazz: fullmoonfireball (official art edit)

#club penguin oc showdown #club penguin oc bracket

[incomingalbatross]

Yesterday I was at our nearby Catholic cafe and I saw this on the used-books shelf and? what??

“The Tripods Attack” Oh, okay, is this something to do with the Tripod trilogy--or maybe War of the Worlds, I’m seeing steampunk vibes--

what do you MEAN the “Young Chesterton Chronicles”

I don’t--I don’t even know where to start with this.

G. K. Chesterton as a Plucky Teenage Orphan in a Steampunk Catholic Adventure??

War of the Worlds?? But, again, the Tripods trilogy kinda claimed that name, I cannot escape those associations

On the other hand, H. G. Wells is here! Why not!!

“An enigmatic bearded man known only as the Doctor” OH. OKAY.

...Seriously. Talk about inescapable associations. Rationally I have to tell myself it’s probably not Doctor Who fanfic, but?? He’s right there??

So yes part of me is ASSUMING that Teenage Steampunk Chesterton is actually being swept up into the fringes of the Time War. That’s all there is to it.

(Especially since young Herbert here has canonically hung out with the Doctor.)

FATHER BROWN IS HERE. Because apparently Young Chesterton is also just interacting with his own future OCs!

Like, if you’re already writing RPF you could have just had Father O’Connor. That was very much an option.

So...to sum up, it appears that Young Chesterton is foiling an alien invasion, solving “his parents’ violent and tragic death,” AND being evangelized at, all at the same time. He’s carrying a lot, here.

I don’t... Part of me feels like Chesterton would be extremely entertained by the concept, part of me feels like they really should have drawn more from his actual biography (he was not converted in his teens!) and that someone with this much personality isn’t your best choice for a fictional teen protagonist, and part of me is just baffled. I may have to go back and buy it just to investigate.

(...Also, if anyone does want to write Teen Chesterton Meets War Doctor fanfic, I would read it.)

#what on earth #anyway i figured catholic tumblr might get a kick out of this

[lunatic-fandom-space]

I dont think ive mentioned this at any point but Im actually really obsessed elisabeth but I cant engage with it at all or even think too hard about it without feeling like Im gonna start biting people. like, ive been making a lot of tanz der vampire posts and whenever one of my original posts gets interacted with I go and check the account because Im a freak like that and surprise surprise, people who like that musical also often like elisabeth, theres one account in particular who might even recognize me because its a fairly small fandom, and whenever I look at their account Ive always completely forgotten that they post a lot about elisabeth and I get jumpscared and have to very quickly click away as my heartrate inexplicably spikes for a second. And it really sucks because one time one of the posts I got jumpscared by was this one that pointed out how deaths carriage was also rudolfs bed and I hadnt noticed that and its really neat and I would love to see more posts like that about what is basically my favorite musical ever but I cant. look at them

I think the reason my brain is so weird about letting me enjoy it is that it is rpf and also german in origin. or well its from austria but you know what I mean. And i dont know why because its not like hamilton where all the songs slap but its weirdly patriotic so i dont really wanna watch it in full ever again, not only do all the songs in elisabeth slap but its also not patriotic as a whole, like thats the reason i was able to listen to it almost every day while taking the bus to school for about three months, i couldnt do that if it was weirdly patriotic yknow. Speaking of me listening to the soundtrack almost everday for three months, whenever I would do that I would imagine these elaborate and usually very romantic animatics in my head and thats perfectly fine but god forbid i wanna read a fanfic thats just a non-musical prose version of Die Schatten Werden Länger (Reprise) because like, no offense but what other kind of fanfic could you possibly write about this musical. Or maybe I just lack imagination idk

Also, speaking of the nature of this musical as rpf, because Death is the only character thats not like, real, hes the only character that I can read or write fanfic about, like I found a fic about him intracting with the von Krolocks and I liked it so much that I wrote my own oneshot about him having a weird tender moment with Herbert and I have ideas for like 3 more, which is kinda ironic because hes the character Im the most unwell about for all the obvious reasons and usually when Im this degree of unwell about a character i can hardly stand to even think about them but I guess the fact that I can already barely bring myself to think about the musical hes from kinda cancels that out

#idk what this post is #some personal shit #elisabeth das musical

[random-thought-depository]

That said, I'm really not a fan of the thing in Dune adaptations of giving the Harkonnens a freaky and creepy aesthetic (which the Lynch movie did, which showed up in the planning of the never actually filmed Jodorowsky adaptation IIRC, and which IIRC the Villeneuve movie also did though I haven't seen it). There's layers to why I dislike it:

1) It's literally children's cartoon level characterization (and arguably would be a lazy and potentially harmful dramatic device even in children's media). Can we not do this "ugliness = evil" thing here, and if we have to can we at least do it in a less anvilicious way?

2) Frank Herbert going "I'm going to show Baron Harkonnen's amorality by making him a fat sexual deviant" is already possibly the most rancid thing in the book, can adaptations stop amping it up through Flanderization?

3) Speaking of which, it's a Flanderization from the actual book, where as far as I could tell Baron Harkonnen is physically just a regular disabled fat guy and there's no indication the Harkonnens have any particularly unusual or distinctive look aside from a hereditary tendency toward fatness.

4) The Atreides vs. Harkonnen conflict isn't a goodie vs. baddie conflict and specifically the Atreides aren't goodies, so jot that down. The Dune Imperium is an oligarchical eugenicist caste system and House Atreides and House Harkonnen specifically derive their power from and benefit from one of its worst features (its institutions of oligarchic hereditary privilege). A person like Leto I is almost certainly not going to have either the socialization or the incentives to be an actually good person, and, actually, insofar as he is maybe a genuinely less than averagely bad member of his class he's a lesson in what tends to happen to less than averagely bad members of oligarchic classes; the Emperor saw him as a threat, killed him, almost destroyed his House, and favored his enemy, I suspect partly because Vladdie H was too obviously evil to have the same charisma and therefore was less of a threat to the system. House Atreides and House Harkonnen would logically be fundamentally similar institutions staffed by fundamentally similar people. If I was going to use visual aesthetics and visual symbolism to communicate the similarities and differences between House Atreides and House Harkonnen, I would be trying to communicate their fundamental similarity.

When I was reading the actual book Geidi Prime gave me a shitty banana republic vibe, so if I were doing a fanfic or movie adaptation that's how I'd portray Geidi Prime and House Harkonnen; I'd give them banana republic right-wing dictatorship vibes. If I were doing a visual media adaptation, Rabban is the one I have the clearest mental image of: I'd have him strutting around in a pretty normal-looking (by our standards) military uniform and looking like the kind of guy you'd expect to see hobnobbing with Pinochet or Fulgencio Batista or Saddam Hussein.

#Dune