I didn't want to have to make this post, I've seen enough shipping drama on Tumblr over the years that I usually steer clear of it, but there’s been so much Nooshy bashing in the tags lately that I feel compelled to weigh in on it.
Why do people like Nooshy? Well, to put it simply, even though she’s never the center of attention in "Sing 2", Nooshy manages to be a girl with layers, and there's a lot to appreciate about her. When we're first introduced to her, she's a street performer so she can make the money that she needs to survive, but she’s also genuinely passionate about her craft - she loves to dance - and she enjoys getting a chance to share that passion with someone else whenever they come along.
While she can be snarky and prickly and slow to trust strangers, she’s also very nice once you get to know her. After a young turtle kid almost screws up her performance, she's still very playful and accommodating towards him. When she’s brought backstage to the Crystal theater, she compliments some dude's hat just to make him feel good about himself. While she initially agrees to help Johnny because he offers to pay her, she starts to stick up for him and genuinely support him, because the way Klaus treats him isn't right. She decides to help the Moon Theater troupe put on their big show, even though she's only known these people for about a week and their plan will surely be very dangerous, because the way Jimmy Crystal treats them isn't right either and she wants to help them stick it to the man. After Johnny tells her that he and his family used to be a gang of notorious criminals, Nooshy never judges them for their shady past, and is actually quite happy to see how close he and his father are now (especially since it's implied that she might not even have parents herself). And during "A Sky Full Of Stars", she encourages Johnny to never give up and follow his heart, because he's her friend and she wants to see him succeed.
Nooshy is snarky and mischievous, but underneath it all, she's actually a very kind girl, and very loyal towards the people who earn her respect. And by the end of "Sing 2", she gets her happy ending when she not only gets a new paying career doing what she loves, but also finds a place where she belongs among the Moon Theater troupe.
The reason why I just went off on that rather long tangent, dissecting her character, is to drive home the point that Nooshy has done nothing in the canon films to warrant the way people talk about her sometimes.
I've seen people insult everything about her and her fans for shipping reasons, because they see her as a threat to their preferred ships (even though she and Johnny are not even canonically a couple by the end of "Sing 2"). And there's a real double standard when it comes to this too, because no other character who's been shipped with Johnny over the years gets this kind of treatment. Meena doesn't, Ash doesn't, Ryan doesn't (even though the claim that Nooshy haters sometimes make - that people only like her as one half of a ship - could just as easily be said about him).
And this is really nothing new. Characters getting trash-talked over shipping wars is a tale as old as time when it comes to fandoms, and people are entitled to their opinions. The reason why I made this post is because lately, the Nooshy bashing is starting to cross a line.
Over the last few months, I've been seeing a growing number of comments complaining about people including Nooshy in their fanart. I've also been seeing a growing number of posts outright insulting people who like Nooshy or like to ship her with Johnny, saying that they're stupid and shallow and should just go away because they’re a blight on the fandom.
How about no.
In a fandom, people are allowed to like whatever character they like, or ship whatever couple they like, so long as they're not hurting anyone. If you hate Nooshy so much that you can't stand seeing any fanart of her or fanfics of her, because you don't want to be reminded that she exists, then I'm sorry but you're either just going to have to deal with that or stop engaging with the parts of the fandom where people want to appreciate her. Because quite frankly, your hatred for this character is no one else’s problem except your own and people are not going to stop liking her just for your benefit.
I know how Alfonso and Ryan can fit in the third movie(it's what I also want to happen). I'll start with Alfonso, I think his arc would be that be Meena needs a (new)singing partner (because Darius is probably doing movies away from the crew) and Alfonso is nervous not just about singing with Meena, but singing in general. Meena then helps Alfonso overcome his fears like she had and they sing a duet together. And for Ryan, his story arc could be that he can't sing, (unlike Alfonso who can but is shy) like he doesn't know how and Johnny is Ryan's partner(from buster not Klaus) and they have to sing and dance a duet, so Johnny decides to help him sing, and he sings the song stay with me(by Sam Smith)to help him with vocals and he sing so well that ryan tells him to teach him a different song because he could never do it like him(when in reality he is in love with Johnny and his singing that he wants him to sing another, maybe they won't get together in the movie but it's a start, even though they might not be together but I hope anyone consider my idea) and after a while they sing the duet. And of course marcus/big daddy would be there to support and protect them(and where is nooshy? She is helping and also gets a part and Ryan helps to) I'm still work shopping it, what do you think?
Along with their next upcoming show at the Moon Theatre, Steff and Ash are greatly excited for their first Valentine's Day together: dinner followed by a movie.
Unfortunately, those plans are unexpectedly sabotaged when Steff wakes up the next morning to a horrible surprise.
SING 2 INCORRECT QUOTES I HAVE A GOOGLE DOC FULL OF PT1
Your prompt:
Meena: Hewwo.
Porsha: Hihiiiiii!
Ash: Greetings, Humans.
Ryan: Three kinds of people.
Ash: I want pudding.
Johnny: Four kinds of people.
Nooshy: WHAT’S UP FUCKERS?
Ryan: Five kinds of people.
(My favorite lmao)
Your prompt:
*The squad is over at Nooshy's house*
Johnny: Ohhhh, we each get our own oven?
Nooshy: ... N-No...
Nooshy, laughing: How many ovens do you think I have???
Johnny, motioning to their kitchen: Three, I thought!
Ash: I see a-
Nooshy, motioning to one device: This is a microwave.
Johnny: Oh, well I-
Nooshy: Hey wait wait, actually- hang on- *fiddles with the buttons on the microwave*
Nooshy, amazed: Its got a bake setting!
Meena: Ohoho, you learn something new every day!
Porsha: Do we- Do we roshambo for who gets to pick first?
Nooshy: Now I've just discovered I have more ovens than I thought, we don't have to roshambo nothin!
Nooshy: I am someone who owns four ovens...
Nooshy, louder and way too happy: I am someone... who owns FOUR OVENS...
Nooshy: I didn't know I was so rich with ovens...
Ryan, pointing to another appliance: Also the toaster oven!
Nooshy:
Johnny: Ohhh, toasty boy! Four- Five ovens!
Nooshy:
Nooshy, fucking ECSTATIC: I AM SOMEONE WHO OWNS FIVE OVENS
Your prompt:
Nooshy: Is something burning?
Johnny: Just my love for you.
Nooshy: Johnny, the toaster is on fire.
Your prompt:
Nooshy: *Accidentally hits Johnny in the face*
Nooshy: *Trying to decide between saying 'I’m fucking sorry' and 'Are you okay'*
Nooshy: ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY?!
Johnny: What’s wrong with you?!
Your prompt:
Nooshy: In light of what you did for me, you can hug me for four to five seconds.
Johnny: FORTY FIVE SECONDS?!?
Nooshy: No! Four to five seconds!
Johnny: Too late!!!
Your prompt:
Nooshy: You saved me. I owe you my life.
Johnny: No thanks. I’ve seen it and I’m not very impressed.
Your prompt:
Nooshy: Lol heads up if you try to make a candle with food coloring, the food coloring will just sink to the bottom of the glass, and when the flame eventually reaches the bottom all the food coloring will catch fire and become one giant tall flame that you cannot possibly blow out and the glass will start to crack and then you'll throw your tea on it in a panic and then the extremely hot food coloring will boil and sizzle horribly and then the glass will shatter. Please take my word on this lmfao
Johnny: What did you do op?
Nooshy: A MISTAKE
Your prompt:
Nooshy: Am I in trouble?
Johnny: Take a guess.
Nooshy: No?
Johnny: Take another guess.
Your prompt:
Nooshy: A theif.
Johnny: Thief?
Nooshy: Theif.
Johnny: I before E, except after C.
Nooshy: Thceif.
Nooshy: No.
Your prompt:
Nooshy: Do you think you’d actually notice if someone didn’t cast a shadow? Or if their limbs were just slightly too long? Or if they had just a little too many teeth? like how many times have you passed Something on the street and you just didn’t Notice It?
Johnny: Stay woke monsterfuckers ur love is out there!!!!!
Nooshy: Yknow what? Not my point at all in any way whatsoever, but I’m glad I could be an inspiration
Your prompt:
Nooshy: It’s dark in here
Johnny: Don’t worry dude I got this
Johnny: *Stomps their feet*
Johnny: *Skechers light up*
Your prompt:
*Nooshy and Johnny are doing something absurdly dangerous*
Nooshy: I think Houdini did something like this once! Why, if I recall correctly, he was out of the hospital in no time!
There is another Sing ship involving the Saluki which I can't stop thinking about or continuing to be tortured by: shipping her with Johnny's dad!
These words cannot escape my mind from the video of Illumination taking risks: "The company is 'going to have to evolve. We can have a commitment strategy to movies as a cinema-going experience and we can layer other business on top of that. There are topics of conversation right now that are very relevant to what we're doing in the future that get into areas that potentially might not please everyone. I think you have to honor the stories that you tell, honor the choices that your filmmakers make, and you have to be willing to not have everybody pleased all the time."
And since high-grossing franchises are constantly milked, that means they'll need new stories and new material, including ones that fans aren't doing yet. Plus, as Illumination insists on animal behavior, it makes sense for a gentle giant like a gorilla to be protective towards a Saluki, one of the most timid dog breeds of all, so that's one "open-minded/I'm not a judgy bastard who should be sentenced to damnation" perspective, and yet, I can't stand the idea of them being romantic partners any more than her and Jimmy being romantic partners.
Here are the four reasons:
1. They've too big an age gap
Okay, Suki is either in her 20's or early 30's, and Marcus...well, most of the characters' ages here aren't clear, but I assume he's in his mid-40's or 50's. And I realize that Sing lacks pairings with the man being two-three decades older than the woman and "HAS TO BE relevant to real life in all ways", but do they really need that? And yes, Johnny could have a stepmom in his life, but does it have to be a woman close to HIS age?
2. They lack the chemistry
Seriously, who thinks Chelsea Peretti and Peter Serafinowicz would have any chemistry?
3. It spells old-fashioned stereotype
I know strong men would be a good shoulder for tough women to be there as a shoulder and make them feel stronger and make them feel more human, but does it have to imply the strong man is as strong as one of those weight-lifters at the circus? Skinny guys can be strong in some way too. And a lot of women today aren't interested in beefcakes, which brings me to this reason:
4. It destroys her better judgement
In her first few minutes of the film, she comes off as this pretty-dresser who comes from the squeaky clean big city and is hard to please (FOR ENTERTAINMENT, btw!) and because she's a lackey for someone muscular and well-dressed (Jimmy) and is loyal throughout the film, due to dogs being loyal, until she betrays him, everyone just automatically assumes she only likes high-quality individuals as much as high-quality shows. Shows and individuals are two different things. Why throw it away other than just to make Ash, Meena, Rosita, Nooshy, and Porsha the girls you want to like that aren't picky?
She has potential to be liked by someone not taller than her and for her to reasonably like them back. That's realistic and not as superficial.
And I can stand the idea of Marcus finding someone to replace Johnny's late mom, just not if it means destroying the mentioned potential Suki had with other characters, or better yet, maybe not have Johnny's mom dead after all. Incidentally, what is it with Illumination and not having characters' spouses present? Marcus, Jimmy Crystal, Clay Calloway (that I can excuse), and we cannot completely conclude that Buster's mom is dead too.
I seriously hope Illumination doesn't force them into being so. I can handle it being done in fanfictions, but not in actual canon because that means they'd have to be canon in every universe (like how Mickey and Minnie are a couple in every universe and so on with other cartoon couples).
Are you ready for some crack!? Rosita x Marcus hcs and moments (meeting, co-parenting Johnny etc) please? Norman doesn't exist obviously.
I am always ready for crackheaded shtuff >:D
-When Johnny got into the Singing Comp, Rosita was one of the first people he interacted with apart from Crawly and Buster obviously.
-Rosita was really nice, and invited him over to meet her family around mid-way into the comp.
-Johnny really had a great time, and he appreciated it because he didn't exactly want to be hanging out with the gang. Plus, Rosita's a good cook!
-Shortly after the Singing Comp ending with the theater crashing down, Johnny confessed to Rosita about what had been going on. Crazy pig lady basically took him in :)
(Norman: Honey, I'm ho-
Rosita: *holding a koala, an elephant, a gorilla, a porcupine, and another pig* meet our new kids, Norman!)
-Rosita practically played Johnny's mother, and she and Buster helped him save for bail, which even Nana agreed to pitch into. Johnny took her to meet him and Johnny's uncles on visiting days so she would know Marcus, Stan and Barry in advance to them getting out.
-When Marcus and the others got out, the first thing Marcus wanted to do was thank Rosita for helping his son so much. So, he made a bunch of sandwiches and popped in for an awkward 'thank you'.
-Rosita had (along with the troupe) even given Johnny birthday gifts! Meena had made a cake and they had a whole party even though Marcus was still in jail.
-Rosita and Marcus began talking more often, as Marcus would occasionally check in on his son during rehearsals and Rosita would fill him him (unknown to Johnny)
-Basically, Rosita took care of Johnny whenever Marcus wasn't there to do it. (Ex: rehearsals, while Marcus was busy with community service, etc.)
-And Marcus was very grateful. So grateful in fact, he invited Rosita to dinner....
I'll lead the rest to your vivid imagination, my friends! Though, just saying, when you combine a gigantic mountain gorilla and a pig, things are bound to get chaotic XD
How Ryan, Johnny and my Oc (Zotz), acted when they started having feelings for each other.
Zotz: They were the first one to realize, and knew immediately what he was feeling. He didn’t deny what he was feeling, but thought the two wouldn’t feel the same as he did. He was afraid to ruin what they already had. And was also afraid how the other two would act, when Zotz would talk about something personal to him.
Ryan: The second one to realize, but was in denial for a while. Thinking these feelings were only temporary, and thought he wanted to become closer friends with the other two. He had a hard time telling a difference between a crush and wanting to be closer friend with someone. But eventually after a few interactions, he realized that had a crush on the two.
Johnny: one word. Oblivious, completely oblivious, sure he asked to hang out with the other two most of the time, thinking it would make the three close friends. But in reality, it was his brain’s way of saying “I know what you want” to Johnny. AND he thought the blushing or redness on his face was because of a sickness, but the sickness was love lol.
Meanwhile Rosita, Ash, Nooshy, and Meena: are scheming on how to get the three together, teasing them about the boy’s crushes on each other, and trying to find a good ship name lol.
Gunter: tries to fit them in love story plot, but Moon thought it would make the story too complicated so they just settled to make certain scene with Ryan and Johnny (to make it more sense)
Moon: knows about the boy’s crushes but doesn’t interfere too much and wants them to figure it out naturally
Ms. Crawly: The same with Moon but gives the each of them love advice with her wise wisdom
Porscha: didn’t know until the three started dating, but know she would go and post about being the fourth wheel whenever she hangs out with them as a joke. even though when the others, like Nooshy and Ash are also there. They would call themselves the 4th 5th and 6th wheel.
Clay: wouldn’t know until they started dating, and would give both Johnny and Zotz advice. Since the two reminded Clay of his younger self, and Ryan reminded Clay of his late wife. (Not in a creepy way, don’t worry)
Both Ash and Steff's 19th birthdays are merely eleven days apart from each other. And both agree that their girlfriend deserves nothing but the best on their special day.