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akookminsupporter · 1 month
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dearweirdme · 7 months
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andy-wm · 1 month
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I’m gonna be real with y’all, most of the time these days I don’t think Jikook are dating per se But they are… they are… they’re… what are they? What’s their problem? What’s their DEAL like one min you’re just cute bros and then I remember jungkook sucked on jimin’s EAR
Said a long time army-jkkr on Twitter. You may know her - Jennie, a lesbian in a long term relationship, who once was a hard-core jikooker. But for past two years, she thinks they are not dating but are two cute bros. There are only 1-2 incidents which make her rethink her 'Jikook are bros' final decision. Just like majority of jkkrs, it's either ear sucking or hickey, which one day if JK himself comes and say it didn't meant a shit or does same thing with someone else gets immediately debunked. But does 2 incidents matter when rest everything they does, if we look around us or even among bts are all common dynamics between two men who are super close ? If even long term Jikookers don't think they are dating then why would we have to believe they are a couple 🤔 Because majority here are super convinced they are a couple when in reality it's 90% chance that they are not.
I think this is the anon in my previous post who was frustrated i didn't answer their question. I am not exactly sure what the question is.
Anon, if you are asking if i think they're dating, i really can't comment on that.
Relationships come in many forms. As many as there are people on earth. What you call dating, i might call hooking up, or FWB, or partnered. They may have booty calls or they may be married. Or maybe they're poly and are dating several people. Or maybe they're asexual and they really adore each other and they don't have sex at all ever because they just don't.
We don't know how they define their relationship and its pointless to speculate.
It's also not important.
It's not important at all.
The term we use doesn't matter. What matters is what they are to each other.
I think they love each other.
I think they are or have been intimate partners (I lean towards are).
I think they are very invested in one another, and they support each other emotionally and physically and professionally.
(Watch the original clip of the gif below and you'll notice Jungkook helping Jimin ease into his seat. Boy couldn't sit down without help. I'm not speculating as to why.)
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If they call that dating, cool.
If they call it life partners, awesome.
If they call it BFF who regularly go to bed together, I'm happy if they're happy.
And just for the record, I watch their intractions and take my cue from them. I am not really influenced by the opinions of others. "The majority of jikookers think X" doesn't affect me. I see what I see. And what i see is deep love and attraction and mutual respect and healthy boundaries.
I dont know if they are or are not dating, but if you're looking for a guidebook on dating, you could do worse that watching these two
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juliapark13 · 4 months
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"we don't know why jungkook didn't cover his hickey/neckbite" Maybe Beacuse it actually wasn't anything intimate as ppl take it? Yes it's sus kinda thing to give a mark to your close friend but i do remember jungkook saying "don't take it wrong" in one of the clips of that bite but his sentence wasn't translated because the voices were colliding. Like cone on you think if it was something sexual or intimate he would have not tried to hide it??? I get jungkook answered how he goy that mark because staff asked him but why do you think jm would be telling it to everyone what is his personal business? When no one asked.
Doesn't JK saying "DON'T TAKE IT WRONG" debunk the whole thing ? He clearly.. 100% clearly.. said don't think this hickey was caused by something intimate happened yesterday. He just bit me to put him down. Ik Jikookers here haven't paid attention to him saying that because either none of your K-jkkrs translated that or you ignored because it debunked everything.
In my opinion people who aren’t blind know very well why.
Here ↓
Next time give a hickey to your friend and then let me know how it went 🥹
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starryjkoo · 4 months
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This might be a controversial opinion but some of y’all need to learn to pick your battles and stop chasing the validation of PJMs and JJKs. Who cares if JJKs are hyping some fictional friendship and writing fanfictions because Jungkook stood next to some random dude twice? Who cares if solo fanbases crop out and don’t post the whole picture (that no one should be reposting btw)? Who cares if PJMs and JJKs don’t acknowledge their friendship? As long as they aren’t dragging Jimin or JK, or even overtly saying anything negative about their bond, literally why do some of you guys care what solos of all people think?
It’s odd to me that some jkkrs will go into solo spaces and then try to get them to acknowledge a member you know they hate and regularly drag. What are you expecting to happen? JJKs actually not mentioning or paying attention to JM is literally the best case scenario. I absolutely wish they would never look at him or talk about him or post anything about him ever again. I literally don’t care if they think JK loves random solider #2 or Mingyu or an inanimate object more than he loves JM and neither should you. They are NEVER going to acknowledge Jikook’s friendship, so stop expecting them to. That is literally one of the least offensive things I’ve seen them do this week alone and it doesn’t actually hurt Jimin or JK, it’s just annoying.
100% make fun of them in your own spaces for being so lame and immature about Jikook enlisting together, they ARE super weird for hyping up this random friendship they suddenly invented (and yes I know they were likely doing it on purpose), it IS really frustrating and sad how dismissive so many people are about Jikook -- but I still don’t understand what some jkkrs were expecting. I sincerely hope that whenever the Jikook travel show drops they keep cropping them out and pretending they’re besties with random bartenders and camera men because the alternative is them dragging JM and JK and their entire bond nonstop. Solos are NEVER going to acknowledge their friendship and I wonder why some jkkrs seem to want them to so bad? You are CHOOSING to go into their spaces and be annoyed that these people who call JM slurs and animal names on the regular don’t want to acknowledge his friendship with JK - and some of you are literally antagonizing these people you KNOW have no morals over something like this.
This whole issue snowballed because so many people are bored and miserable right now and tkkrs especially are looking for a fight ever since Jikook enlisted together (or honestly probably since Tokyo). I see how jkkrs can make an innocent post and get jumped and tkkrs can say the most heinous shit about JM and jkk imaginable and get away with it -- but if you’re active online you should know how it is and learn to pick your battles if you actually care about the people you stan. There was no reason for JM or JK to get dragged over something like this.
Anyways this isn’t the end of the world or anything, but I did watch this whole unnecessary drama unfold and opened my twitter account this morning to see report accounts STILL trying to clean it up, so I wanted to rant a bit. I’m sure the Jikook show will unleash the most heinous discourse imaginable so I’m saving my energy for that. Obviously people can do whatever they want, and I’m not saying jkkrs shouldn’t rant or be upset about it in their own spaces, I was just surprised by some of the reactions. Jikook enlisting together makes it obvious to anyone with a brain how close they are, that’s why the people who hate them are being especially weird and petty and obnoxious. JJKs were writing about how JK tattooed ARMY on his knuckles because he knows ARMYs hurt him or whatever just the other day so idk why some jkkrs were expecting them to suddenly celebrate his friendship with JM who they literally hate more than anyone else.
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stormblessed95 · 5 months
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As a straight ARMY if Jikook (hypothetically) would ever admit they are, or were a thing, I would at once be happy for them, but at the same time get a bit jealous, coz then queer ARMY would try to gate keep them like anything.
Queer fans can be rather possessive about queer celebs I have seen. I kinda get why they would, but still..
I recall being in a YouTube fandom once. Two YouTubers were speculated to be dating.
I was happy indeed when both of em came out, but once they did, most of the fandom became overwhelmingly queer and non queer fans were eventually pushed out or made to feel unwelcome.
Queer ARMY already say BTS just for girls, gays and theys and they are mostly joking. But if Jikook or any BTS member for that matter were to come out officially, these wont be jokes.
BTS, especially the members who come out wont be considered as those with universal appeal, but be promoted, touted as queer icons instead.
Straight fans who now participate as ARMY equally with non het fans, would now become "guests in a queer space/fandom)".
Our opinion on their style, music choice, career trajectory would be shut down as #hetopinionnotvalid.
Straight BTS fans would then be likened to straight women who go to gay clubs, as interlopers who are encroaching something that doesnt belong to them.
Okay listen. I can sort of understand where you are coming from about being worried about not having a place in the fandom anymore, sort of, but that's just not going to happen with BTS as a whole regardless of if any of them comes out at any point. And as for in jikooker spaces, well not all of jkkr spaces, but most straight fans are ALREADY a guest in queer spaces for these blogs. Nothing is confirmed, sure, but if a blog is run by a queer person, making posts about queer content, it's a queer space first and foremost then. 🤷🏻‍♀️
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Dear God, I hope none of yall think I'm straight and that this isn't predominantly a queer space. It's a safe space for everyone always, and yes. A queer space. It's mine. Therefore you, as a straight army, are a quest in a queer space here. Welcome 💜. My posts/content are for the gays first though always. Sorry.
Being a fan of a queer music group is not the same thing as being a straight women taking over queer spaces in gay bars. Unless you are a fan of BTS for their sexualities and not their music. And if you are a fan only because they are or arent queer... then that's already a problem and yeah, It might make people protective and rightfully so.
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mrs-monaghan · 6 months
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regardless of another fun coincidence, the fact that jikook are known even by btb caption writers as the sun and moon duo, and then there’s a little lyric in there about sun and moon - who both have sun and moon tattoos? Hahaha ☀️💛🌙
Yasssss.
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Both of them did it too!
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And u cannot tell me this doesn't occur to them when they say/sing these lines.
Let's talk the MV for a sec. Of course there's the sexual innuendo
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JK still talking about giving his lover that afterglow 😌
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He swears by Jimin's good loving. It's that good.
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He he he hee. Then we get to the Jikook coded part of the lyrics.
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Omg feeeeeeeels 😭😭😭😭😭
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Mmm!
Y'all can hate and yap all day. No one can ever take away what they've got. Between this and set me free, as a supporter hearing this,
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Such a great song y'all. The lyrics. The aesthetics. The choreo that JK said is the best he's done yet. In his opinion. Giving MJ. Giving Neyo. I can't stop watching it... I can tell the views are gonna be high. As they should 🥰🥰
I wanna talk about the female lead for a sec. Which btw I still dk if its the same person or 3 😂 she looks different everytime. Anyhu, what exactly was her point?? I found her completely useless. Like, we could have done without her, right? For me the only purpose she serves is to show the afterglow JK gives his partner after he's done with him.
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Other than that I'm not sure what purpose she serves in the MV 🤷🏽‍♀️ but, whatever.
So about this
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Doesn't it remind you of this?
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Did Jimin foreshadow? Or is it just another instance of Jikook concepts getting married?
Jaksal noted the same.
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Also my friends pointed out how the line isn't straight 😏
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I find that interesting... don't you?
On the topic of matching Jikook;
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I dont care that PJMs and some Jkkrs have an issue with this. I will forever love it 😍😍
I love Jikook sm.
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Bonus: this cute little edit 😂
From the snippet I didn't think I would like SNTY but I actually really love it. 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾 It's so pleasing to the eye too!
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not-goldy · 6 days
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Hi Goldy!
You’ve been dealing with a lot and I mean A LOT of Jungkook antis lately, Jimin antis and Jikook antis too.
Why do you think it is that they purposefully come to your blog, with anons that go against what you post about?
Why do they come with *their opinions* to a blog about YOUR OPINIONS?
Let’s put it out there, hypothetically, if they really wanted to get in your head and turn you to the ‘dark side’ what dark side would you chose?
A) Jikook were never real and they use each other to cover up girlfriends (like really?!)
B) Jikook are laughing at all the jkkrs that believe in them and they are strictly bros, colleagues who only hang out when forced by the evil company (*le sigh)
C) Jimin is actually with another BB member and so is Jungkook, either in the group of another group (with how Jikook treat each other I pity their ‘lovers’)
Orrr
D) Jikook were real but broke up in chapter 2 (I wish I had exes like Jikook 🙃)
I personally don’t believe ANY of the above, but if you were to give the antis what they wanted, what would you chose and how would a post from you after accepting one of the choices look like?
Give the antis the content they’re aching for, even though it wouldn’t make them disappear, a least they can print and frame the post as their longed for ‘win’ from a Jikook account cos it’s the only win they’ll get.
I leave you with this 😉:
Jikook will keep jikooking no matter what anons say 💜💛
Dark side?????
None of these sound remotely plausible to me😩💀
Using eachother to cover their girlfriends is just such a silly take🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So silly.
Being coerced to do things against their will is wild for two people who won't hesitate to throw the company under the bus if the need arises - Jimin exposed the company for not giving him voice training when he wanted one, exposed them for refusing to greenlight his MV for each song project. Hell he pointed to Jungkook when the members exposed them sneaking into bed with eachother for the first time.
Imo he has a very strong self preservation instinct.
There's a reason some people say he's a Slitherin you know lmao
Jungkook- well he's Jungkook 😹💀
He asked vmin not to come to his house on live but quickly changed his tone when he realized he was on live. Like he literally said "I'm not supposed to say that" and then he went, okay yall can come🤣💀
He n Jimin have exposed the company more times than I can count I doubt they would let it slide if the company were forcing them into anything.
Break ups are a normal part of relationship cycles.
But I don't see why two exes would choose to serve in the military together 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I can understand them putting their differences aside to film official content together but to be stuck with each other for more than a year???? Let's be serious for once🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jikook dating other members from other bands sounds like something a 10 year old fanfic writer would cook up😩
It's right up there in the level of silliness with option one🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can tolerate those who think they are not together or were never together at all. After all I can entertain the thought I could be fundamentally mistaken about them but however I also believe they are more likely together than not.
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ask-serendipity-sky · 10 months
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Hello, everyone. I have something I need to say:
I've been very vocal about my feelings towards Tae and all the things he does. The people who follow me know that. I hardly talk about Tae because he's not the point of my blog but somehow he always comes up.
So I speak freely because that's what humans are meant to do. I don't care about fandom etiquette or jikooker rules or whatever crap someone made up. It's so childish to me.
And it was all fine. I don't go hate on anyone's blog and mine wasn't hated on either. I never got harassed for posting my thoughts. Until now.
Stormblessed95 has once again started bullying people for not thinking like her.
She does this everyone and then. I was just a lurker when she did it a while back last year, then a few months back like in April(?), and now, that I have my own blog, she's doing it directly to me.
Stormblessed's bullying post:
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Ever since she said this (and probably other stuff that I didn't read), I have received hateful and bullying asks. Some I have posted...:
...others I have deleted, others I've kept...and they keep coming.
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So people obviously listened to her words and got all riled up (like taekook-lives riles up her followers).
Ever since Stormblessed99 started her little bullying train again, every single word I post gets analyzed and I get a hateful message for it.
Of course she will play the victim card and say she's not calling anyone out. But then why, when referring to the "Tae Anti", does she use the exact words I used in my response?:
My words:
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Stormblessed95's words:
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All of this is straight up bullying and instilling hate so others can either bully me too, harass me, and silence me.
I voice my opinion on Tae but she voices her opinion as if it was the rule of the fandom and jikookers, enforces it by bullying people, people listen to her, then she plays the victim card saying she's the one who is being attacked.
It's funny how everytime there is a chapter of bullying and hate in jikook tumblr, she is present in every single one.
I'm frankly tired of this fandom being a bunch of sheep and being so quiet about what they think. This is why people keep growing with hate and think they have they right to police others.
So yeah, I just wanted to say this. Because I don't like being silenced and don't find it fair that people can't voice their opinions without having someone come at them.
I'm not a coward like the people who like to throw shade and hide behind the anon button.
Sooo... Stormblessed and friends, stop bullying me and my thoughts and next time you have something to say, come and say it directly to me.
Thank you all for your attention.
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lajikookbolala · 9 months
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Hi!
Have you talked about your opinion on jungkooks concept photos being similar to jimins? And their clothes being very similar, like jungkooks inkigayo performance outfit?
Hi to you too, Anon! Thanks for the question.
I've actually been thinking about the matching clothes and concept photos a LOT recently, and would absolutely love to share my opinions with you!
First of all, I would like to remind everyone that this is not the first time Jikook have done this. Throughout the years, there have been many instances of them wearing similar, or even the same clothes. Here are just some examples:
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And there's many more where that came from. I suggest looking at this article if you're curious: https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/btss-jimin-jungkook-shared-clothes-15-times-cutest-thing/
But yes, I would say it's even more obvious now. Especially because we have seen so many instances of it even in just the last few weeks/months. First of all, we have something that I have talked about before, which is the matching necklaces from the Seven and Like Crazy MVs:
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And the fact that Jungkook has worn that necklace (or at least a similar one) in both of his most recent lives.
There are other instances of them wearing these necklaces, too.
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Kind of reminds me of this...
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Speaking of the similarities between Seven and Like Crazy, just take a look at these lyrics:
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Both songs talk about riding. And both say it in English. And that's about where I'm going to leave that one, Anon.
Next I want to talk about something which might be a bit of a reach, and that is the subtle references to Jikook in the Seven MV.
Doing laundry together... at night.
Rememer this scene?
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Well, it just happened to remind me of this moment, when Jikook tell the rest of the members that they stayed up all night, and when they ask them why, they say they were doing their laundry.
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Call it a reach, sure, I can agree with that. Maybe. But I somehow feel like the next one might not be.
2. The rainy day fight.
At the end of the MV, after an entire week of fighting, Jungkook and So Hee finally make up. In the rain. Remind you of anything?
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Both Jimin and Jungkook talked about the rainy day incident soon before Seven was released. Then the MV comes out and it involves a rainy day fight?
Also I've seen some people talking about how the album covers perfectly line up, but I don't really have anything to say on that, so I'll leave this one up to y'all.
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And then, finally, we get to talk about all the matching clothes and styles we've been seeing recently.
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I think these photos speak for themselves. There is no way this is all a coincidence.
So, why do this, then?
Well, I think Jikook are both extremely smart, and they know we are too (and by "we" I meak jkkrs). Jkkrs are detectives, and we've proven that sooo many times. This might be their way of communicating about their relationship to us without saying it outright.
Jikook WANT to show the fans that they're together, but they only want to show the ones who are willing to look.
Anyways, sorry for the super long post. This might be the longest post I've made so far if I'm being honest 😆
Thank you so much for your ask, Anon, and to everyone else reading this, thank you too! I hope you all have an amazing day!
P.S. if I missed anything feel free to let me know!
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akookminsupporter · 16 days
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https://www.tumblr.com/akookminsupporter/747202919136477184/its-ok-to-admit-that-jm-and-jk-dont-like-each
Whenever i see things like this, i am reminded why i decided to leave shipping spaces. Jk is a sorry excuse for a boyfriend because he left a concert without telling Jimin he was leaving yet everyone and their mama wants Jungkook to do for other people the things he has done for Jimin for years. Everyone wants a GCF, everyone wants Jungkook taking their someone else to Japan, everyone wants Jungkook to make big pancakes for them because they have penalties. Everyone wants Jungkook to go over to someone else’s house and cook for them everyone was praying on bended knee that Jk did for others what he did for Jimin during FACE era. It’s funny because deep down, everyone sees and knows that Jungkook doesn’t make the same effort for others as he makes for Jimin and that is why for years, we have heard endlessly how everything Jungkook does for Jimin is Fanservice and him not doing all those things for others is because their relationship is not for the camera.
We should accept that two people who had the chance to finally completely escape from each other for 18 months since they don’t like each other, instead choose to enlist together where they would have to see each other’s faces every single day for 18months? What does leaving a damn concert without someone else knowing have to do with how Jungkook and Jimin feel about each other? They were just leaving a concert back to their homes, it’s not like they were traveling never to see each other again and since some of you like to analyze things so damn much, i will like for you to analyze for me why on god’s green earth Jungkook will hate Jimin so much yet on their last OT4 Live that boy couldn’t keep his hands to himself? I will like for you to explain to me in plain English why this boy sat down for hours watching and supporting Jimin as much as he did during Face era?
It’s always the same damn thing with little minded people. In 2021 at Harry Styles concert, we had people yapping about how Jungkook didn’t like Jimin because he spent the whole time at the concert being glued to Taehyung but what did we find out later? Wasn’t that the same period when we found out that Jungkook and Jimin were basically spending their entire days together? Going and coming back from concerts together, eating together, working out everyday together and to add to that, Jk was in Jimin’s room so much that even Tae thought Jimin’s room was Jk’s. Wasn’t that the same time we found out that Jk would go knock on Jimin’s door at 1am, stay there for about 4 hours at a time and then rinse and repeat? If we are to judge how much people like each other by how glued they are at certain points then why on earth was Jk singing and swaying with another member at a concert yet he wasn’t going to spend all his downtime in that member’s hotel room? He hated Jimin so much that he decided to go spend all or most of his time alone in the room of the member he hates so much?
Same damn thing happened at Hobi’s album release party in 2022. Before we got the Bangtan bomb, everyone was yapping about how Jk and Jimin were never seen together at the party and that meant they hated each other only for us to see them in the bangtan bomb “hiding” in a dark corner with hands touching and clearly separating from each other when they noticed they cameras.
Should i also bring back their rookie days when everyone was so damn sure Jk hated Jimin’s guts because he always “pushed” him infront of the camera or ranked him last in looks only for us to find out from many sources that Jk infact would pile clothes on his bed and go sleep in Jimin’s bed and he himself later mentioned that Jimin is the member he spends most of his nights with. Jk hated Jimin so much that he chose to spend his only resting time hanging out with Jimin. I’m sure he used to strangle Jimin all those nights they were together alone.
Tae and Jk are the bestest of besties coming and leaving together to and from Yoongi’s concert yet that didn’t stop Tae from leaving Jk alone at a ski resort and journeying back home with his friends while Jk stayed there all alone. Jk and Tae are clearly besties by that didn’t stop Jk from not saying a single thing during Layover while he couldn’t shut up during FACE and mind you, he hates Jimin. Do u see how stupid you sound anon? So according to your logic, Jk and Tae must hate each other too because imagine leaving your bestie all alone at a ski resort and choosing to go back home with friends or imagine being silent during your bestie’s album release and not saying or doing a damn thing in support of it even though you were literally keeping up with everything some other member put out.
Some of you continue to prove everyday how small your minds are. With the wake of every new content, we have people loosing faith in a ship or believing more in it. Tomorrow we will get some other form of content and Jungkook will go back to being the greenest flag, and then the next moment he is back to being an ass. It is kinda like these boys aren’t human being with layers and complicated feelings. It is like relationships in this life are supposed to be perfect on camera else people are jerks. It is like Jimin is and has always been the most pitiable person who continues to speak about how much he relies on Jungkook even though Jungkook is a sorry excuse for a boyfriend. I guess Jimin was a fool to keep saying Jk will protect him because only a fool will keep saying someone does things for them that they actually don’t.
The earlier some of you realize that Jungkook as a boyfriend or friend only has to make sense to Jimin and no one else, the better for you. The way Jungkook shows his love and affection and if he hates or loves Jimin is something Jimin knows and only he should really care about.
For over a decade we have had Jimin wholeheartedly loving and caring about the same man the same way yet some people just can’t take a hint. These guys have been consistent for over a decade. Consistent in every single way. People thinking they cannot stand each other only to find out they are sneaking into each other’s hotel rooms, traveling together, or making plans to enlist together. Are you people not tired of being proven wrong every single time? Are u not tired of being punched in the face every damn time? Y’all keep raising ur BPs and giving yourself whiplash trying to figure Jimin and Jungkook. One moment you are seeing Jungkook moving the earth for Jimin and the next moment you are hearing that he left a concert without telling Jimin and instead of you to do the normal thing which is to tell yourself that you do not know them more than they know themselves, you come here declaring that they hate each other and then tomorrow when Jungkook wakes up and does another one of his grand gestures that shakes the fandom, you are back to scratching your head. Calling Jk a sorry excuse for a boyfriend like your partner (if at all you have any) doesn’t literally treat you like a piece of shit. Jimin can openly say he enlisted with Jk so he can rely on him. He can openly tell Jk to grow stronger and continue to protect him, he can openly tell Jk to cook for him, can you say any of these about your partner? Yet Jk is the one who is a sorry excuse for a boyfriend? If Jk is a sorry excuse for a boyfriend, i hope i get such a sorry excuse for a boyfriend. Someone whose love for me will continuousy make people to call our relationship fanservice because it looks too good to he true.
yet everyone and their mama wants Jungkook to do for other people the things he has done for Jimin for years.
It’s funny because deep down, everyone sees and knows that Jungkook doesn’t make the same effort for others as he makes for Jimin
It is kinda like these boys aren’t human being with layers and complicated feelings. It is like relationships in this life are supposed to be perfect on camera else people are jerks.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE FUCKING SUBGROUP IN THE BACK.
Anon, I love you. Thanks for telling the truth and nothing but the truth and asking the right questions.
I WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS ANON ASKED.
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beautifulpersonpeach · 9 months
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Can I ask you some questions
1. What does karmy generally think about I army ? From what we see I army especially I jkkrs always see karmy as this ultimate power which can confirm something related to boy or jkk etc
2. Is there heavy homophobia in SK like I see Jkk bloggers always warning about which will affect safety of Jkk. I'm confused as when I see street interviews many Koreans seems open minded about it.
3. Is it true that Karmy indeed knows 'tea' lol. I always see bloggers here saying they are hiding it for jkk and boys safety and only share it in their cirlces. But I'm confused, there are antis in SK too and even ex fans can turn antis. Even recently we saw some I- jkkrs turning against JK because he was pushed by company. If one of them really has tea won't it be shared online and harm them which makes me think Karny also knows infos like I army except maybe they'll be seeing boys often.
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Speaking for myself here.
1 - Every type of fan you have in i-ARMY, you have in k-ARMY, it's just that in k-ARMY it's the more intense version. The antis are more persistent, hateful and vicious, the cosplayers are more devious, the shippers more certain, the chartmys more obsessed and calculating, the solo stans more unhinged and vile, the mantis more extreme, even the OT7s are more intense in how hard they go for every member, more than anything I've seen on the i-ARMY side. But I do think the general perception Korean fans have of international fans (in general not just k-ARMY), is that many international k-pop stans are very easy to manipulate and rile up. Manipulation happens on the Korean side too but with foreigners it's way easier. And I don't think this disadvantage to international fans is just down to language barriers. Cultural nuances between Korea and most Western countries is what drives the bigger role, in my opinion. You simply cannot afford to be thin-skinned and simple-minded as a Korean person in regular society, and in the k-pop industry this is the bare minimum requirement to succeed as an idol for a reason. I mean, have you sat down to think about the sort of brutal honesty, cynicism, and vanity that's rampant in a culture, for plastic surgery to be so common it becomes banal?
Anyway, to answer your first question, k-ARMYs see international ARMYs as somewhat easy to manipulate, but at the same time very volatile and entitled. Sometimes. That first point though means you and I are not the only people who've noticed some people gobble up anything so long as it's in Korean, and that bias can be abused.
That said though, in the jikook community at least far as I know, many k-jokers are legit ARMYs who don't want to endanger the boys by spreading reckless information. Sometimes there are cosplayers and sasaengs mixed in, who do have ulterior motives / misleading information, but the community so far has been able to keep bad actors to the minimum. Overall though, what I really think is that if you actually respect the guys, the ultimate authority/power to confirm something related to them is the boys themselves. Their own actions and words should be clear enough, and your mind capable enough of arriving at a reasoned opinion all on your own. You can test that opinion against new information such as, a Korean person who claims they are more knowledgeable on the topic - because as I've said, Korean is very nuance-dependent and cultural insight is integral to always getting the full picture. Think about what the new information means for your opinion, and move forward with the opinion that makes the most sense to you at the end. Brownie points if you can engage in fandom with people with differing viewpoints, somewhat respectfully.
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2 - Yes, there's heavy homophobia. And yes the younger generation is more accepting of it but that doesn't ultimately matter because of how Korea works. In my perception of it at least. The hate you get being queer in Korea, never starts directly. They target your friends first. Then your family. Your dad getting a snide comment at work here, your mom getting disinvited from the women's neighborhood meet-up there, your brother getting weird looks... And then there's the state restrictions: gay/queer couples cannot adopt and there are no protections under the constitution. So yes, technically people are out and people can come out and live relatively normal lives, but the path is extremely complicated. For someone like an idol, I'd imagine even more so.
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3 - I won't waste a lot of time on this since I already said quite a bit in point 1. The one thing I'll say is if there's one thing you need to note about this industry, it's this: k-pop is so insanely competitive, people are so ridiculously wicked and psychotic that anybody who has dirt on you won't hesitate to use it at the first opportune moment. (You in this case being an idol/group.) Like, any 'tea' that's worthwhile gets spilled before long given the churn rate in the industry. And this is true to a large extent for companies too. For example, I don't think BigHit/HYBE is all that different from other k-pop agencies in this industry, but I do think they are in many ways better because if they were just as bad or worse than other agencies, we would've seen the paperwork by now. We would've seen the lawsuits, the weeping idols, the 'disgruntled staff' blinds (SM is notorious for being so good at this one), we would've seen that mess by now. Because many people don't hesitate to walk, especially in the case of abuse. Also, there is a very real limit to what even Korean people can know if they're outside the team's inner circle. Usually what counts as 'tea' is sightings and schedules, which if not illegal isn't damning in the least. But there are other kinds of 'tea' that's clearly malicious, but oftentimes that sort of hit is contracted. For example, things like the targeted attack Jimin faced regarding his missed insurance payments, myself and a few friends believe that was 'contracted hate'. Something that's unfortunately not uncommon in the industry.
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K-ARMYs / k-jikookers are very similar in behaviour to i-jikookers, just more intense, usually / in my experience (including myself). So weigh their words/actions accordingly.
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dearweirdme · 2 months
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honestly I've been following bts for a while now and I did like taekook and thought there could be something there (can never know for sure so I guess I'm not a believer) but it's become kind of apparent to me that none of these ships are real, like I can believe that some of them might be queer considering they do present themselves as such to those that want to see but when it comes to relationships, with tkk there is an imbalance to me, a lot of the times jk barely reciprocates, and no they don't need to perform their relationship but he constantly puts tae in a bad place and in a position where it's easy for haters to call him a liar and I know they're aware of some of this stuff cus they do spend time online
it seems to me like vminkook are all kinda over the ship stuff, I do believe they're friends but I can also believe that this did affect their friendships in some way, and no I don't believe that tae is lying about tkk for attention, I think they do hang out, it's clear that they're friends but to still claim relationship with how dismissive jk has been, idk if I can really get behind that
Btw, not trying to change your mind and I know this isn't a new perspective or anything, not trying to hate on any members either, just kind of what I've been feeling lately, I still enjoy bts content but the shipping lenses have kind of just come off
Hi anon!
Personally I don't agree with your thoughts on Jk and the way he engages with all things Tae. I think it's an idea that got a lot of traction because of only a few things and it is now being magnified by a certain part of fandom (and highly supported by Tae anti's, Taennies, and Jkkrs). People take a few tiny moments where Jk to them seemed to dismiss Tae, and to me those instances were not that. The constant comparing of how Jk did a live for Jm (also not entirely my reading of that live btw) to him not doing something similar for Tae, Jk's elaboration on Tae recording at his place, some other small moments... it's in reality not actually a thing and he certainly did not dismiss Tae. This fandom has a tendency to magnify tiny moments into something they're not.
I do think Jk is over the shipping stuff. I think Jimin has left that road a whole while ago. I think Tae just really doesn't care much about other's opinions (something he's learned to do over the years). I think all three of them have had conversations about this and to me it looks as though they have settled in a good place together. I don't think they let fandom come between them. They know each other, they know what each of them has struggled through and how much they care for each other.
But, your opinion is your own ofcourse. You are certainly not alone in this and I know you are not the only former Tkkr (or shipper) who has left a ship. In the end, us believing in them or not isn’t important. It doesn't change reality at all.
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jmdbjk · 8 months
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July 14th is the day Jikookers delusions comes to an end. Btw not just jkkrs but all gay shippers. You saw that Explicit version and Red CD ? If it doesn't scream sex Idk what it is. When I told you the other day that it's gonna be an Explicit song you all laughed at me saying JK you all know won't do it. That's true, but there's another JK you all doesn't know. He's gonna show that version here. Ready to cry when he's having one of most sexiest scenes in kpop Mvs ever WITH A WOMAN. You have 2 options: block and laugh at me for saying truth or Be ready with 101 explanations on July 14th, to convince yourself and your followers that JK is gay with a long term bf aka your fav (a member respectively for each shipper), will need a lot of excuses and explanations btw. Best of luck.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAH!
I just found this in my inbox. I know its old and I know it made the rounds already but damn, I laughed so hard.
Yes, dude... July 14 was something else all right. What a fun day that was.
To me it definitely was a turning point in Bangtan history as well as kpop history. Jungkook of BTS singing about fucking every single day of the week. All day, every hour, every minute, night after night he'll be dicking you right... Just come right out and say it, JK.
Yes, the song was about sex! SCORE ONE FOR YOU, ANON!
Our Jungkookie let loose with the big jingle jangles in his pocket, wagging those jewels around every chance he got! Boy definitely has some balls to just drop that one on us.
However, you did get some big points in your ask totally wrong...
That MV did not show the most sexiest scenes in Kpop (in my humble opinion)... TXT's MV for Sugar Rush Ride was more explicit with them caressing their own bodies, and there was nary a female to be seen in those MVs. I almost fell for them with that MV.
And I do cry on the daily that BTS has not yet covered themselves in glitter and had foreplay with themselves in an MV (or each other)... maybe after MS? Question is, will YOU be ready for that?
Still, one of the sexiest scenes in kpop to me is Jimin and Jungkook's Black Swan pas de deux. Jaw droppingly beautiful.
Or did you mean JK holding hands with Sohee at the end was sexy? Yes, so smexy. He holds hands often with Jimin and I do find it a little bit sexy so I could be persuaded on that point but only to a point.
No one has to convince ourselves that JK (might) be gay. He does it himself. No extra explanations needed...
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And no one has to come up with excuses about Jimin and Jungkook being a "thing" cuz lawd... I will say no more...
I won't block you, or maybe I did without knowing it because you also sent in some other equally vapid takes on something else. But I did laugh at you heartily and continue to do so. If you aren't blocked, please hit me up with more of your ridiculousness... except you won't be able to do it anonymously anymore because jeez, that functionality is about as useless as Tumblr Live.
Yes, dude... we hit the jackpot that day.
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juliapark13 · 4 months
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I’m gonna be real with y’all, most of the time these days I don’t think Jikook are dating per se But they are… they are… they’re… what are they? What’s their problem? What’s their DEAL like one min you’re just cute bros and then I remember jungkook sucked on jimin’s EAR
Said a long time army-jkkr on Twitter. You may know her - Jennie, a lesbian in a long term relationship, who once was a hard-core jikooker. But for past two years, she thinks they are not dating but are two cute bros. There are only 1-2 incidents which make her rethink her 'Jikook are bros' final decision. Just like majority of jkkrs, it's either ear sucking or hickey, which one day if JK himself comes and say it didn't meant a shit or does same thing with someone else gets immediately debunked. But does 2 incidents matter when rest everything they does, if we look around us or even among bts are all common dynamics between two men who are super close ? If even long term Jikookers don't think they are dating then why would we have to believe they are a couple 🤔 Because majority here are super convinced they are a couple when in reality it's 90% chance that they are not.
What do you want me to say? 🤷🏻‍♀️
In my opinion there’s 0% chance that they’re not in a relationship and not because of only 2 incidents. Lol.
The difference between jikook and all other BTS duos can’t be bigger.
If you don’t think so, it’s ok. But you sound like you’re trying to find some way how to disprove it, because you don’t want it to be like that, but they’re always at the back of your mind. 🤷🏻‍♀️
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