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#its hard when i dont pass enough for cis people but when i dont pass enough for trans people it hurts on another level
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what is tme/tma? (sorry i’m cis)
they stand for transmisogyny exempt and transmisogyny affected. nominally they are supposed to label people who are targets of transmisogyny (tma) and people who are not targets of transmisogyny (tme), but in practice they are typically instead defined to mean "trans women, trans femmes, and (sometimes) gnc men" (tma) and "literally everyone else" (tme)
unfortunately, as i have tried to argue, this... isnt really how oppression works, especially considering the queer community necessarily resists hard categorization, and especially binaries
whats more, people who are supposedly tme are frequently the victims of transmisogynistic hatecrimes, something the proponents of the terms usually call "misdirected transmisogyny." i have gripes with this, though, because misdirected bigotry is... well, its still bigotry.
when sikhs (and whats more, any brown person who looked a certain way) were facing a monstrous amount of misdirected islamophobia in the wake of 911, the muslim community did not come out and say "well, they arent really muslim, so the islamophobic attacks on them dont count." nor did the sikhs and others use it as an excuse to attack islam! instead, they recognized that the bigots didnt actually care about the specific labels of the people they were attacking. all they cared was that someone was brown, and that they practiced a foreign religion, and that was enough.
likewise, when gentiles are attacked by antisemites for defending or associating with jewish people, those jewish people do not say, "you are not jewish, and therefore this doesnt count." instead, they acknowledge that, once again, the bigots in this instance dont actually care about the specifics of the lives led by those theyre attacking. i cannot imagine a jewish synagogue denying aid to a victim of an antisemitic attack, even if they are not jewish.
similarly, when a queer or gnc person is attacked by a transphobe for performing gender wrong, that transphobe doesnt actually care what particular label or lifestyle the person theyre attacking subscribes too. a trans man with some stubble in a dress is the same as a non-passing trans woman to them. a burly woman with higher than average testosterone going into the womens bathroom is the same as a non-passing trans woman to them. a masculine black woman in baggy clothes is the same as a non-passing trans woman to them. and they will attack accordingly, and no matter how the victim protests that they arent a trans woman, the bigot will not care.
this is all glossing over the fact that, by advocating that people disclose their tma/tme status in their blog description or carrd or whatever, you are effectively asking them to out themself. if you define tme as "not a trans woman," and someone has a trans flag and he/him pronouns on their profile, and you ask them to also include tme on their profile... well, then youre asking them to publicly state what their genitals are. while tma and tme are not defined exclusively based on genitals, it is undeniable that in combination with other readily available information, they can be easily used to determine what someones assigned gender at birth is.
when applied to trans people, tme/tma is just another false binary. it is a poor attempt to categorize a human experience that is simply not divisible into neat little categories, and especially not a binary.
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97-liners · 8 months
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God ur so self righteous it hurts 😭 all u ever do is sit here and throw around ur hot takes and opinions and then expect ur little gremlins to agree with you, but as soon as its another person who has a hot take or an opinion that opposes you, and a few people defend them whether it be a friend or an anon, they are evil, and this is just fatphobia aside like this is EVERY "moral" take you have its just all hot garbage and you being a hypocrit 💀 half the time its stuff that you have literally no say on anyway.
Are you a vampire? Have you always been afraid of mirrors?
"Moral backbone" my ass you just say whatever you will think would appeal to various minorities so you can look like the good guy who happens to be blunt. Its not even being blunt you arent cool for being a cunt towards everyone and it will never be cool. Stick to talking about shit that relates to you and maybe, just maybe, people wouldn't hate on you so much. It's no wonder half of caratblr can't stand ur ass
I dont think this take is as bad as that one time, or well multiple times you have shat on peoples writing styles or the content they write about just because it doesnt fit your vanilla cis straight woman narrative, now thats awful
Or maybe the times you've vagueposted about some of your closest moots just for them to still be here, defending your ass when all you do is talk shit about them constantly
you think i’m just saying what i think will appeal to various minorities. it’s really telling that you think people have the political beliefs they do just to look good. like do you really believe people have the beliefs they do performatively? do you find it hard to believe that people hold beliefs not out of a desire to look good, but because that’s what they believe???
also because this is weird: since when have i vagueposted about mutuals. when have mutuals defended me???? like what are you actually talking about … i don’t care if half of caratblr can’t stand my ass, if they’re that willing to support anything just because a fic writer did it, i don’t really care what they think. like i say it here all the time, i don’t care what y’all think of me. just unfollow me if you don’t want me on your dash.
the main thing i have to say here though. “half of the time it’s shit you have no say in anyway” like i don’t have to be black to think that anti-blackness is bad. this goes beyond whatever this anon is talking about — the problem with “listen to x voices” is that, while it’s important to put oppressed viewpoints in the forefront of discussions, it’s not a free pass out of critical thought. ppl forget “listen to x voices” started out in academic study. it wasn’t about the ppl you choose to defend or the viewpoints you hold publicly. and it’s not about minority voices saying “x isn’t harmful” taking precedence over established theory to the contrary. i think this is something ANY poc understands acutely and painfully because it’s always the conservative and white supremacist sellouts that get put to the forefront. (this includes diasporic poc more so than non-minority people native to their nation. like how irritating that bts has a voice on violence against asian americans when their experience as native koreans has NOTHING to do with the diasporic asian experience!?)
it also gives people an out. if you believe that only x people should talk or care about x issues, then that lets you just sit back and say “well, i’m not x so i’m not involved”… and more irritatingly, it gives you the perceived right to say “well I’M a minority so my opinion is right !!!!”. being a person of color doesn’t make me an expert on racism and i don’t pretend to be an expert. there are white anti-imperialist scholars who have a better understanding of racist power structures than i do and i’m not arrogant enough to just write that off because they’re white.
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florenceisfalling · 26 days
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gripping [redacted irl person] by the shoulders.
it does not matter how many r/egg_irl astolfo memes you pull up quite literally asking for random people (including cishets you just met???) to figure out your gender for you. the other queers are not going to feel safe around you when you spend your entire time on campus harassing people, misgendering transmascs in romantically/sexually charged ways, and getting a trans woman (who you Also misgender!) kicked out of her fucking housing. using "i wanna be a girl but im still cis though 👉👈" doesn't come across as endearing anymore when you tell younger transmascs that you wanna make them your gf and have kids with them, or when you used to tell everyone you were a cishet dude and literally fucking ran to physically chase down lesbians you'd never spoken to walking alone at night, or when you. I REITERATE. got a fucking trans woman kicked out of her dorm while calling her a man!! force her to switch to different housing by calling the fucking campus police on her because youre sad!!! and then lie saying she called them on you!!!! the only reason i felt bad for you and was nice to you was bc i thought you were just a sad maybe-autistic maybe-ace person who needed friends (and then maybe-trans maybe-woman maybe-lesbian) but your college experience seems dedicated to making life as hard as possible for every autie, trans person, woman, ace person, lesbian, and various mixes of the above you encounter - and then fucking lying and threatening everyone you consider your "friends" to get what you want after they repeatedly ask you to stop. i had enough of this when my exfriend fucking molested a girl and then said "i think i might be a transbian" as a poor attempt at an excuse (as if tgirls get away with that shit? as if they arent horribly scrutinized??) until all his cis guy friends forgot abt the girl's trauma and then went back to "nvm im a cishet guy :)" once everyone was chill with him again. i am fucking beyond tired of it now that its someone pulling the "i think i might be a transbian too" after fucking up so bad you couldve made a tgirl homeless and openly misgendering and mistreating other tgirls and sexually harassing other queers and refusing to spend any time around trans people (except for those you perceive as cis women - of course, including trans people who don't pass to your liking). stop asking me to decide whether your egg needs cracked or not and start treating trans women (and everyone else, too, what the fuck is wrong with you??) with respect and maybe you'll get some satisfying advice (since you didnt take mine) but at this point everyone is either scared of you or fucking hates you and theres not a single trans person ive met on this campus who has anything to say about you other than "oh yeah, that person stalked me/my friends". like sorry if im a little hesitant to validate you (AS IF YOU DESERVE IT AFTER CALLING SECURITY ON A TGIRL TO KICK HER OUTTT MY GOD I HATE YOU) but you also said "oh dont worry im ace :)" after sending weird sexual shit to someone (after they asked you to fucking QUIT) so youre not new to using your identity as a shield and now turning around and talking abt how you MAYBE are HYPOTHETICALLY a tgirl teehee but you cant decideeeee doesnt change the fact that your actions suck ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!! EXPLODE
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fallout-lou-begas · 2 years
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idk as a trans male i dont think that comic helps much. Idk who that man is anyway not that i want to be the perfect flowy fem boy but you know. i'm five foot tall and will never be able to pass probably even as im on T. And looking like a short pudgy kid isnt gonna help anything. Anyway i think its okay to have fears and to be worried and we need to care more about that?
i don't think you are wrong for wanting to pass. with the caveat that passing is not some permanent fixed state, but rather a circumstantial effect that either applies or not between specific individuals in specific situations, passing as not-trans can blanket a lot of trans people from day-to-day danger and harm. this is valuable.
however, my earnest response to you asking me this in my inbox is that it's sort of a non-sequitur because all i implied in the tag you're responding to is that i don't think it's healthy for people considering testosterone to talk themselves out of it because they're afraid of turning "ugly." and second, it's honestly very sad to me to hear that you may be considering only whether testosterone would make you pass, because i would like to ask if you have considered whether testosterone could make you happy? whether the effects of testosterone would be desirable to you regardless? maybe you have, but i do not know you and i cannot know you, anonymous question asker.
on this point i have no words to say that would be better than the ones from an essay by David Davis about what testosterone did for them, which I can't help but cite quite a large portion of. if this does not help you then i hope it helps anyone else who may read this, as i thought about ignoring this ask but then wondered how many others may feel the same way and could use a sincere response.
From "David Davis XII (2020)": It wasn’t until second puberty really kicked into gear this past January that I started to feel good. The things that I had been afraid of were coming to pass in and on my body and I was shocked, if you can believe it, to find them to be not only not horrifying but pleasurable. Where I was once almost hairless, follicles of white and fawn were sweeping up my thighs and toward my navel, feathering my forearms and knuckles and knees, like a time-lapse video of springtime shrouding a meadow. The ways that I weep and cum have evolved like Pokémon—similar enough to be recognizable, but different enough to merit, perhaps, new names. All my clothes feel new again, except for the shirts that no longer fit me.
Though there were aspects to these changes that were challenging, and even sad, I didn’t feel the pain of pointless suffering, which meant I could experience the sweetness along with the bitterness. For a few weeks in April, for example, my throat started to feel tight yet charged. As your voice deepens, there is a window of time where you can no longer hit the high notes, but the low ones haven’t shown up yet. I pictured my voice box like a brown paper package that had been shrunk down to two sizes too small. My access, such as it was, to Kate Bush, Christina Amphlett, and Donna Summer was gone forever. I miss it. There was even a day where I felt sad enough to cry over it. But I don’t regret that it had to happen, and I am starting to learn that growth is not a zero sum game.
It feels right, what’s happening to me, and long overdue. Over the past ten months, my sympathy for teenage cis boys, whose hair and horniness and hunger descend on the pre-androgenized body like a typewriter on paper—hard and fast, sometimes all at once and sometimes in tiny, concentrated stabs—has grown a thousandfold, for even as distressing as my first puberty was, it did not feel as dramatic as this one, though admittedly that could be because I don’t have to psychically leave my body to tolerate it. I feel a kinship with those boys and their zits and confusion and desires, reminding myself that when I am at a loss for what to do with my irritability, excitement, horniness (did I mention that?), sore throat, urge to move—to drive fast and punch walls, which as a grownup I can do with fewer consequences than teens can—that it’s because I am still getting used to a vitality I hadn’t felt since I was a little girl who wanted to be a little boy.
I have this memory from my freshman year of high school, clear as a bell in a quiet room, of seeing my reflection in the glass wall outside the girls’ lockers. I was in my very short cross-country uniform, so I could see my thighs, which I normally hid from myself and everyone else. They were becoming womanly, like everyone said they would, and I knew that they were not supposed to be like that, and it was unbearable, though of course I bore it. The knowledge that I was going the wrong way, known before I knew that trans people could do things to their bodies to correct them, or that people like that even existed, was one of the only bits of information my soupy, sedated mind could retain, pooled at the base of my brain like black ice, a sad and ominous awareness that someday something would have to be done about all this. At the time, I couldn’t imagine that something as anything other than drifting away in a cozy, well-insulated garage.
With my second puberty, the things I have spent my life fearing—having trained myself, as most queer people do, to hate and fear what I want—were finally happening to me. Even as I gave myself my weekly dose of testosterone cypionate, I was certain that my new form would be bad and hateful, that I would become more and more ugly with unnatural and unwelcome changes on my already unnatural and unwelcome body. It was hard for me to imagine looking uglier than I already did, but I knew it would happen. I had no point of reference for a puberty that wasn’t catastrophic, which should make clear, I hope, just how last-ditch HRT was for me.
Like other transsexuals, perhaps, I had to become one to truly understand how much I hated us. It took me a decade be graced with hormones, but I still believed, even if I was conscious enough of what that belief betrayed not to say it aloud, that I didn’t actually want what it would do to me. I’m going on HRT for the fat redistribution, I told myself. I’m not thrilled about the voice change or gaining (and losing) hair or the clit growth or the many real terrors of living as a transsexual among these cis demons, but what do I have to lose? I’ve already mutilated my body from years of self-harm and SM and surgery and substances and sickness, and anyway, I told myself, I’m already ugly and past 30. Who cares what I look like now? Who cares if this is the wrong choice?
The things I told myself about myself were the kind of things that I would never say to another trans person, especially another person on testosterone, and would recognize as virulently, violently transphobic were they coming from a cis person (which of course they do, all the time). But as HRT has continued to change me, I’ve begun to think like this less and less. T can’t take all the credit, because I’ve done a lot of work, over the past decade, to make my mind ready for this time. Still, where I was before, pleasure was almost impossible. I was hardly capable of it.
For the first time since my first puberty, I do not actively want to die. Limited though it may be by climate change, fascism, and family concerns that constrain how and where I live my life, I have begun to think about my future as mine, with curiosity and sometimes even anticipation. The great pleasure of medical transition has been an integration of pleasure itself into my life.
oh, and that man from the comic is Kim Kitsuragi from the video game Disco Elysium. he's just great. a great guy
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venomroses · 6 months
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okay wait im gonna bitch about something so quick disclaimer: you can do whatever the fuck you want forever. i dont care. this isnt about anyone specifically i just see it a lot in danger days stuff so im putting it on the danger days blog
its so boring to me when people slap top surgery scars onto a presumably canonically cis male character and call him trans. like obviously i love trans headcanons (theres no cis killjoys) but especially in a context like danger days where there probably is limited access to gender affirming everything it feels like such a limited version of transness. like is hrt and top surgery the epitome of transness for people? like make no-hrt no-op characters, make characters who do unconventional gender affirming things, make trans characters who get bottom surgery too, just SOMETHING interesting PLEASE
like for danger days. theres so much room for exploration of transness without medical intervention, passing, the rare occasion someone does get hrt or surgery, people who get surgery without hrt because its easier to get a one-time procedure than it is to keep up with weekly medication, diy hrt and when it doesnt work out well, how transness is viewed when theres a lot of people who dont pass, how gender is viewed in the first place (maybe people dont have to worry about passing because gender isnt viewed the same irl?), how trans people are treated in their crews (like are they treated as the gender they identify as, the gender they pass as, or their assigned gender? are they sort of treated as one but are treated differently than other people of that gender? etc), alternatives to binders/packers/breast forms/etc when traditional versions of those are hard to come by, and thats just the tip of the iceberg you could look at so much more than that.
and like yeah i get that people want escapism they want to see their favs in the body they want and stuff like that which is obviously fine like i said do whatever you want forever im not your mom but just come ON is slapping top surgery scars on someone the best you can do?
and like there are times when i think it would be reasonable for a character to medically transition like if they transitioned in the city then escaped then sure or if one person in the zones had enough money to get themselves hrt consistently then sure that makes sense but every trans character being on hrt and getting top surgery (if ftm) and passing perfectly is BORING especially when you have multiple trans characters like you couldnt even make ONE interesting?
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morelsupports · 2 years
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Question: how do I stop doing the cis person mental gymnastics? I'm a trans person (very happily so, and I've known and actively been living as such for 10+ years now), but I still analyze people's gender presentation.
genuinely i don’t know how to stop making your brain do a thing. my brain still does it against my will. my best advice is to listen to ur brain go “that’s a girl!” and go thank you brain, then ask anyway. possibly if you do this enough times, your brain will learn that it’s obsolete programming. it’s basically trained into us from early childhood to assume people’s gender from appearance.
another tip is to just be friends with trans people, particularly those who dont pass (like me lol!). its hard to rewire your brain for everyone but its easy to turn off your automatic gender assumer with just one person at a time. as soon as you look at your trans friend and see them as their true gender, your brain becomes a little more deprogrammed to see other people as one gender or another.
again can’t totally vouch for either of these ideas because i definitely still assume people’s genders when out and about but these methods have allowed me to pause and then decide to use gender neutral pronouns instead of just using she or he without questioning my first guess! which, externally, is exactly the intention.
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alphabet-p00p · 7 months
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30/90 Things are feeling weird and its been a day full of tears and my head hurts Thinking about class and people really do land where they land and moving out is very hard. Thinking about who i left behind so to speak, and how they got out, or didn't. That being said i think about throwing it all away often. I take no pleasure in the motion of school. When i first came here i thought of it as highschool pt 2 even tho i knew it wouldn't be my methodology was the same and worse, even with less structure. I got to be free tho and i flourished socially for the first time ever. I think about that a lot too. I'm back on campus for the first time since the first time and things are so different now. I'm different my hair is short etc. i have a girlfriend and some friends and i don't do crazy things on the weekends, not that smoking weed and drinking on a friday was so crazy. But it was new and fun then. I don't know i know that i was not necessarily happier then but i think i just feel restless now. The friends i made turned to smoke and the ones that mattered slipped through my hands.i feel restless in the way that i want to flirt.. The danger of flirting. So fun. Am i hot, please tell me i'm hot. I cant be alone and i am not but physically all the time i want to be around someone i want to eat with them and take walks and grocery shop and lots of other things but i cant find anyone who also is autistic gay trans poc who smokes weed who i don't think is insufferable. Theres a person who i have had classes with but never spoken to who seems like they might check the boxes. I don't know how to say hi. Its been three years and i'm pretty sure i follow them on instagram.. The people here are so weird they’ll see you and stare at you in the eye as they pass you. Ive been thinking about space and smell i'm in the same building as last year but things will never be the same and last year two other people lived in these walls and next year different people will live here but they dont know that i spilt a smoothie here and smoked over here and hung my pictures here. the freshman in my former freshman room dont know i dyed my hair here and hosted parties and cied on my (their) bed when i had to leave in may. and the drywall and the steel and the plaster and the carpet don't get enough credit for how much of us they weather. I feel like a host, a home, four walls.
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psych0s0c1al · 10 months
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i hate to be like "nobody understands me" but its SO HARD to be trans and a minor like i constantly get misgendered and theres nothing i can do except for try my best to dress "like a boy" and i just its so hard to keep it up and not be able to present how i want i cant make my voice deeper i have to bind for hours on end for even a CHANCE at passing im trying so hard to appease my family and everyone but i just want to be seen as a guy and its so abundantly clear that that will never happen while im under 18. there are 14 year olds on HRT please tell me why i cant just TRY something i feel like nobody believes me when ive been Out as trans for 4 years. i dont get it im trying so hard and i feel like nothing i do is good enough because my voice isnt deep enough and my eyes are too kind and my shoulders arent wide enough and my eyebrows arent thick enough and i dont walk like other boys and just nothing i do is right its so hard to constantly be thinking about every action i take and still be percieved as a girl. watching cis boys every move so that i can imitate them and still being seen as a girl i just dont get it i want to be a boy so bad.
my mom says that she supports me but when i try anything or mention anything that seems like im furthering my transition she shuts it down and says i cant or thatll never happen. ive never even mentioned changing my name because i dont mind it but she is so against it she said "if you ever change your name i'll be picking it" like thats not the whole point of being trans and getting to figure out who you are. i know some trans people Ask their mom to pick their name but at that point i had never even brought up changing my name. i brought up getting on testosterone when i turned 18 and she shut it down and said she "already had my 18th birthday all planned out" (i mentioned it as a birthday present). when i FIRST mentioned cutting my hair she made me get it cut to a bob & then a pixie cut to "make sure its what i want". im just so exhausted with her acting like i dont know what i want when ive known im trans for nearly 6 years (out for 4).
its so tiring to constantly have to defend myself when she isnt even totally educated on transness. everything she knows about being trans is either from me, my step-parent, or facebook and she really only Listens to one of those (hint: its not the trans people she knows in real life)
im so exhausted with not being able to fully be who i know i am
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thirdhandidiot · 3 years
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HELLO LGBTs
DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION?
NONE OF THE OBEY ME CHARACTERS ARE CIS BECAUSE I SAID SO, ITS TIME WE START PROJECTING ONTO THEM
•i want to see non binary Satan who couldn’t understand why talking to people was making them angry and started lashing out for seemingly no reason, having to go to Lucifer in a fit of angry tears, desperate for help because it hurts so much, why does it hurt?
•I want to see Beel, who passed so easily, worried his twin would grow to despise him because he never had the same ease transitioning socially, getting called the girly one of the two, always being smaller, weaker next to Beel, and Beel hates it so much, he feels guilty
•I want to see Miku Binder Levi projecting onto fictional characters to avoid thinking about his own problems, wearing baggy clothes and locking himself away, jealous of the other brothers, scared of rejection
•I want gender fluid Asmo, proud of their ability to seemlessly shift between presentations, calling mammon in tears, begging him to come pick her up from this guys house because he’s yelling slurs at asmo, who is sobbing please don’t call me that and they won’t stop
•I want to see the great mammon, who is so confident one day, but the next can’t stand the sight of his body, especially when he shifts and you can see his scars, barley hidden by his jacket, who always feels like his screams are just a little bit too high pitched
•Lucifer, so proud, hurt by memories of before, presenting hyper masc at times, afraid to show any emotions because even though he knows it’s not true, he can’t help but think people will see his as more feminine, and he can’t do that, not again
•I want Belphie, who pretends it doesn’t bother them. ‘Why should I care what some lesser demon thinks of me?’ but is kept awake at night, when everyone else is asleep, no one to help as they spiral in insecurities, their voice echoing in their head, the cruel words twisting, stabbing–
•Lord diavolo, whose parents had been so relieved because ‘that means you can be king– we were so disappointed when you were born female’ and it never sat right with him, even though he’d been lucky enough to transition young
•Maybe even Luke, who only Simeon knows is trans, getting upset when he’s called chihuahua because my voice isn’t that high, is it? But determined to stay closeted and so never being able to tell them why they should stop, and he’s not that small, he’s an average height for boys his age he’s checked, so many times
–But I also want to see sleepovers between the brothers (they agreed it was simpler to keep calling themselves that and that it was better than letting Mammon or Levi pick a new name) where they, just for one night, put aside the bickering and tormenting eachother just to make sure the others are ok, because they all know that they’re struggling in their own ways, and for one night they all sleep in the living room, eating food, watching comfort movies and following whatever self care routine it is that asmo is on currently, everyone gets a face mask, no you can’t opt out lucifer, you’re working too hard again, you’ll get wrinkles and that just won’t do, let us take care of you– and Levi! When was the last time you washed your hair?! That won’t do, come with me, let me do it for you I have these amazing bath salts I just know you’ll love
–I want Diavolo, helping them all transition as quickly and as secretively as possible after he finds out. He wants to be there for them, ever since that night lucifer came out to him, sobbing, pride forgotten because he doesn’t want to be that person anymore. He can’t, he spent too long living that lie for his father, he just wants to be free. Simeon telling him he’s changed and being so proud of him, you look so much more relaxed. Diavolo being so happy to know that lucifer is happier because he struggles to talk about it because Lucifer still believes he‘s wrong or broken in someway, pride too much to overcome, but when it’s just him and diavolo, sometimes he can talk about it, lift a weight off his chest
–I want to see them big eachother up in the way that only siblings can, oi that jacket looks good on ya, can I steal it? I’m gonna get junk food because I deserve it, what do you want? I want them to support eachother on bad days, just silently making them tea when they’ve started into space just a little too long, ruffling their hair on the way out. I want a deal between them to let the others know if something is showing in public, whilst in the house being comfortable enough and trusting eachother enough not to judge because really, they’re all in the same boat here
I can’t be the only one here guys. C’mon. Let make this happen. Tag me. ANYTHING YOU POST I want to see it, I want to see your vent art, I want to hurt with you as you project your troubles, just so that your not alone. @7fckingidiots made a Post Abt the Brothers amd it was my final snapping point, Ive got so many little sketches of Satan, they’ve become my muse for any practice drawings, amd I wanted to say something before but yea, check out their post guys I’ll try Link it. But I mean it, tag me, I want to reblog everything you do, make our own supportive family
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izzyliker · 3 years
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hey - this is one of the mods of the bi jon project. we don't actually dislike or disagree with pan jon at all, we just want to make a project focused on and celebrating bisexuality. our carrd is a bit rambling, but frankly we were trying our best/overcompensating to try and make sure people didn't misunderstand us and do - well, this. our intentions are good, and it's really kind of disenheartening to see all the hate we've gotten for what was meant to be a positive project. (1)
you're under no obligation to answer these, but i saw some of your posts in the tag and felt like reaching out because you did give us even the tiniest bit of slack in good faith. honestly, if you have any advice about what in our carrd is so overwhelmingly bad, we'd be happy to hear it. we've been trying to respond to the overwhelming amount of criticism we've got in a positive way, and take peoples' suggestions. (2)
as for why 'no anti-antis' was at the bottom of our rules list, it's legitimately bc we were trying so hard to be preventative about this negativity that we forgot to add it when we first posted the blog, and just remembered later. again, you're under no obligation to answer these, i just feel like no one's really actually letting us defend ourselves/are taking things in as bad faith a way as possible. (3)
im not exactly sure how the posts showed up in the tag bc ive been very purposefully not tagging them, also ive blocked all of you back (not sure why you blocked me if you actually want feedback, so it seems more like you just want free positive pr and not actual feedback) so its unlikely youll see whatever it is that i reply to this but whatever. 
the issues have all been repeatedly brought up to you so i dont really see how me repeating all of them once again could help. when i last looked at the cardd the things that stood out immediately included. 
pitting ace & bi identities and people against each other REPEATEDLY,  
starting off with a guilt trippy tone and maintaining it throughout (in my experience this is the #1 best way to receive backlash because people do not want to participate in events where you feel like youre being guilted into it, which going into scrutinizing detail over there not being enough content and passing judgement onto authors or artists over it is something that comes across as guilt trippy.),
repeatedly equating asexuality with sex repulsion (not to get into the misleading information about modteam aspec identity breakdowns, since you claimed that 3/4 of the team are aspec, which is technically correct, but what you didnt say was that only one is acespec. surely you know that [allosexual] aro and [alloromantic] ace are not interchangeable) and calling using biromantic over bisexual a “misunderstanding” of the identity as if how to define romantic vs sexual attraction (how to divide, if or if not to divide, use interchangeably different labels) isnt a deeply personal choice ace people who experience romantic attraction make, 
claiming that bisexual jon is canon (he isn’t. this is why people are suspicious of anti-other mspec identities sentiments. which theyre right, if youll be so kind as to stick around til the last paragraph) and repeatedly implying that the reason there isnt “enough” content centering bi jon because the aces are simply unable to not fixate on his asexuality (again, pitting identities against each other),
making the banned ship list way needlessly confusing and including ships that dont even include jon to it, which simply comes across as some kind of a list of bad ships, idk. a way to bypass this would simply be to say “we are looking for portrayals of healthy relationships!” and that couldve just been it. if you felt that that wouldnt exclude specific ships (eg. jondaisy that a lot of people write as a relationship between trauma survivors who have done very bad things trying to get better and learning to trust each other) it is possible to simply say “the modteam is squicked[/triggered] by ships with daisy/elias/peter and we’d like to read all of the works submitted so we’re asking not to receive submissions with those ships.” hating ships is literally completely normal but making rules hard to parse is going to attract questions, especially when the implication is that ships are excluded on the grounds of morality, and a blatant power difference ship (jonelias) is equated with jondaisy, which is from what ive seen almost exclusively shown to be a relationship between equals. that makes people EXTREMELY confused about where the line is. thats why youre getting so many questions about this.  
in general the carrd was spotty, guilt trippy, and needlessly moralizing where it definitely did not need to be. the key to getting people to engage without getting backlash is to make the event seem fun. when your carrd is filled with stuff about unrelated negative stuff people are not going to think it’s a fun event at all. 
and none of this even gets into the fact that at least one of the mods has a history of open hostility against pan people. i heard through the grapevine that he has since made a fauxpology about it, but frankly it already shone through in the language used in the event descriptions. its extremely hard to take any of this is good faith when it is easy to see that one of the organizers is quite fucking clear about thinking pansexuality is biphobic and the carrd is or at least used to be full of anti-pan (and other mspec identity) dogwhistles, and is notorious in some of the tma fic author circles for being extremely fucking nasty about trans men writing fic he doesn’t like to the point of pretending that we’re all cis people (in case youre not keeping track that is misgendering us by implication) because he doesn’t like it. i think some of you (or maybe all of you? idk) in general could stand to examine whether your engagements and participations in the fandom have been at all about having fun or adding positivity to anything, or simply making posts about what other people are doing wrong. it seems that every post i see from anyone in this group is guilt trippy and authoritative, and sadly this translated directly into the event. 
when youre, say, a trans man whose first touch to one of the mods was a post about how fic where trans men have piv sex with cis men is hurting him personally and making it a moral issue and not a matter of a simple preference to the point where he feels comfortable making claims about the trans men (and transmasc nonbinary people) writing fic about trans characters re: their gender or whether theyre fetishizing trans men, your willingness to engage in good faith with an event hosted by him that features numerous red flags is not going to be unconditional. 
im sorry to hear that it has been bad for your mental health, and idk whats fucking going on with this event anymore, but my good faith interpretations have diminished significantly since i saw the shit tmc specifically has been saying about pansexual people and pansexuality as an identity label. i have no clue where the rest of you stand but tmc has repeatedly, consistently shown himself to be unable to act in good faith towards anyone other than people who agree with him.  
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transmascjfk · 3 years
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i'm,, trans and hc chihiro to be a male..
i'm sorry, but i don't quite understand how that's transphobic. could you please explain how chihiro is transmisogynistic? (sorry if i come off as rude - that's not my intention and i genuinely just don't understand, though i would like to!!)
What is transmisoginy?
"Transmisogyny is a distinct category of transphobia in that transmisogyny mainly focuses on trans women and other transgender individuals who demonstrate femininity, whereas transphobia is a more general term, covering a broader spectrum of prejudice and discrimination towards transsexual and transgender individuals. Julia Serano states in Whipping Girl that "when the majority of jokes made at the expense of trans people center on 'men wearing dresses' or 'men who want their penises cut off' that is not transphobia – it is transmisogyny. When the majority of violence and sexual assaults committed against trans people is directed at trans women, that is not transphobia – it is transmisogyny." "
Chihiro is written to mock trans women, to say that in reality trans women are secretly men, she is a man who is weak and uses being trans as a way to escape her problems, this is a thing that is also said to trans men a lot, that theyre just trying to avoid the hard parts of being a woman by becoming a man. Even if the writters intended it to be like that or not (which they probably did because transphobia is a big thing that happens a lot, obviously) it's still transmisogynistic. Thats that on that
This is a pretty common transphobic trope actually, the "Turns out this one character was actually from the opposite sex??!!", theres more examples of this in other games outside Danganronpa.
But also her experience is pretty different from other examples, her experiences are way too similar with trans womens experiences.
This is mostly for the cis people who call her a crossdresser and refuse to change their mind, on it, sit down.
Written by a trans man.
Don't tell me whats transphobic and what it's not transphobic if you're cis. Just sit down and read.
Tw: transphobia, transmisoginy, death mentions and blood in the pictures.
The game implies a lot of stuff with her dialogue, it doesn't straight up says "I don't want to be a woman anymore, I'm a man" like everyone claims it does.
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Chihiro Fujisaki: I'm going to get stronger...and accept who I am... ]
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Chihiro Fujisaki: Strong enough so that when someone says "even thought you're a boy" I'll be okay. I'll get better! ]
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Chihiro Fujisaki: I wrapped myself in lies. I'm weak. I want to destroy that version of me forever! ]
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Chihiro Fujisaki: ... I want to change. ]
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Chihiro Fujisaki: I have to change. I don't want to be weak anymore ]
She goes to Mondo not because hes masculine, but because she admires him and his strength. She never once says it's because shes a man or because Mondo is a man.
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Chihiro Fujisaki: Maybe talking to Mondo about it will help give me some courage... ]
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Chihiro Fujisaki: I admire... your strength... ]
These dialogues can be read in two ways, the first one being the one the game tries the hardest to put in your head thats shes a man, all of this guessed by other people btw not what she herself says. Which is really transphobic, because she was written as a trans woman and then theyre like "uh no actually hes a man, because he was born as one but hes a coward so he started to dress as a woman to hide from his problems. Because thats what people do right? People who dress as their oppossite gender are so pathetic, specially men amiright? Ahaha"
Reading it in this way really weird, you're doing a lot of mental gymnastics because you would literally call her a trans woman with all of this if the rest of the trial, that consists of cis people assuming shes a man, didn't happen. And sadly you're following transphobic ideas by this. Because the canon is transphobic and transmysoginistic.
And the other way is just read what she says, that she just wants to be stronger and stop lying to everyone, basically about being cis, because shes not, shes amab (assigned male at birth) and thats probably what she said to Mondo, but most people when a trans person who already passes or is in their transition comes out many people tend to think "oh so youre your gender assigned at birth and not the one you claim to be?", because they don't get what being trans is and they think only "biological gender" is a thing. Basically, misgendering and invalidating the trans person.
I can guess all of this just because of how vague they decided to make her dialogue, not even showing how she tells Mondo about being amab.
What did she said to Mondo? "I'm trans"? "I'm a man"? "I was born a man"? We dont know, because they didn't show it and she died right afterwards and then everyone was like "Chihiro was secretly a man" to solve the case and thats it. A lot of people in the discourse get their information from Monokuma who isn't either Chihiro or even Mondo. Monokuma knows many things but he can't read minds to know if she was really trans or not, only she could say it but she died so she couldn't explain if shes trans or not.
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A youtube comment by Gail Frisbee, posted 4 days ago, this comment was edited by the autor. The comment says:
"It's honestly increible to me when people try to argue that a scene in which a female-presenting character gets their genitals groped and then is posthumously referred to as a male from that point on can't be transphobic just because that character calls themselves a boy in some other side content later. It's on about the same level of intellectual honesty as claiming that Quiet from MGS5 isn't really fanservice because she totally breaths throught her skin you guys.
As it turns out, if you really dig down deep into the lore, Chihiro is a fictional character and the same people who wrote the genital investigation scene also wrote the lines that character says in the game as well. It's a shocking twist, I know." ]
Her fears of being outed and people founding out her secret (being trans) or being transphobic is used as a gross big twist. A trans woman being used as a mockery of trans people? Great totally normal (/sarcasm)
Read this post made by a trans woman. I'll be using this only part but it's still a great read.
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So. There is a lot to unpack here, but I want to start with something that specifically hurts me as a trans woman, and that's how the game flippantly uses real world horrors trans people face as shocking reveals and twists. You can go down the list for "worst nightmares" of trans people incluiding:
Threatening to be outed against your wishes
Outing yourself to a trusted friend and being met with rejection, or worse, violence
Having your body and privacy examined and invaded
Having your deadname used and being misgendered after death, when you can't correct them ]
Now, let's go to her backstory for a bit. I will be using the wiki for this. (Which sadly uses he/him for her 💔)
" When Chihiro was a child, he became the subject of harassment and bullying. He was always told to "be a man" and that he was "so weak despite being a boy", and because of that, Chihiro slowly but surely began to develop a "weakness complex". In order to escape the bullying, Chihiro began to dress as a girl so that people wouldn't bully him as a weak boy. "
This doesn't sound like a normal crossdresser, this sounds like a trans woman who was bullied for being different when she was younger, like many trans people, and then she decided to transition because she's a woman, she wanted to be more feminine and stop being seen as a person shes not. Specially after so many people tell her to basically man up when she doesn't want that, because shes not a man.
Have you ever heard of the classic stories of "since I was little i knew i was different, i was a boy who liked playing with dolls and was more feminine than the rest" or "i used to be a tomboy when i was little, i had mostly male friends, i liked playing with car toys and was more masculine than other kids" coming from trans people? This just sounds as these types of stories to me.
People also like to say that alter ego uses he/him pronouns and says shes a boy. Many trans people can misgender themselves for personal reasons too guys, she could've been trying to misgender herself because she didn't felt like she wasn't enough to be a real woman, this happens a lot to trans people. If people constantly tell you that you're not actually transgender or you just feel like you're faking it then you might actually believe it, thats were most "detransitioners" come from. And thats basically what they made her, a detransitioner.
Some of you might also don't get how shes trans because you think she doesn't perfect or exact trans stereotypes. Trans experiences can be similar on the feeling of not fitting in, dysphoria, etc. But trans experiences, stories, transitions and complete lifes can be very different, because we all (including cis people) live different lifes, experience, process and cope with things differently. So i can understand why you might not get her being trans coded at first, don't worry. But try instead of just not caring because you don't get it at the first try, to see what trans people say.
This whole discourse its mostly cis people talking over trans people about their own experiences (incluiding the dead trans coded characters experience) saying if theyre valid or not and denying stuff not wanting to learn anything, completely refusing to it because "In canon hes a boy" ok then in canon shes written in a transphobic way too but most of you don't care about that. You would rather call her a crossdresser than try to acknowledge how obviously trans coded she is and how thats used as transphobia.
The way most cis people act in this discourse is very transphobic to me to be honest, if you think you're a good ally but act like this then you should get more educated on the topic as a whole and about trans people too.
-the trans Chihiro flag to finish this up, she has a bit boobie! good for her! good for her.
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florenceisfalling · 2 years
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Can't transmen be oppressed for being both men and for being trans? I know that's certainly happened to people I know
trans men face unique struggles for sure! but like on a societal level men arent oppressed specifically for being men.
cis people mistreat trans men not because they are men, but because cis people dont see them as real men in the first place. cis people view transmascs as lesser because they believe shit like "this is a woman who is not living in the typical gender presentation and norms" or "this silly woman is acting out for attention" or "theyre clearly not trying hard enough to be a man, theyre acting too gay and fem to be a true man" etc etc
its like. transphobia + repackaged sexism + repackaged homophobia, not ~misandry~ or anything like that, imo.
and a lot of this lines up bc in my og post i was referencing, i went over the ways trans men r uniquely mistreated and discriminated against by statistics. and almost everything on that list (sa rates, refusal of affirming treatment, etc) had do to with their transition and agab, not their maleness itself.
and we can tell because people arent doin this shit to white cishet abled men.
its like w any other marginalized group. when straight women are homophobic towards gay men, they arent doing it bc theyre misandrist, theyre doing it because theyre homophobic. when gay men are misogynistic towards straight women, they arent doing it bc theyre heterophobic (lol), theyre doing it because theyre misogynistic.
trans men r men and trans women r women but we gotta step back and think about the fact that our oppressors arent thinking in terms of our actual true identity when they hurt us, they are thinking in terms of the false caricature they see us as
i hope this makes literally any sense im about to pass out again <- also im happy to discuss this more n open to the topic im just having Thoughts everywhere ty for asking anon
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neutroiis · 3 years
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non passing trans men dont have male privilege take it from me- a trans man who only passes like 40% of the time. i am /not/ treated like other cis men at my job or at my school, constantly infantized/disrespected by other men AND cis women. like- even if im not treated like a Woman doesnt mean im treated like A Man. at best im treated like A Boy which is degrading considering im an adult man
2/2 - im also gonna make the argument that "Alex - he/him" online isnt even going to experience male privilege most of the time, because simply having pronouns in bio often opens people up to transphobic harassment (which is so stupid but it does happen)
idk enough about your situation to speak to the specifics, although im sorry you get treated that way.
i have some thoughts abt whether people can pass online that i wont go too deeply into here. generally the more anonymous an online interaction, the more likely that a given trans man could conditionally have male privilege regardless of how well he can pass IRL. reddit and tumblr are more anonymous than facebook and twitter, but even those sites are more anonymous than linkedin or the office gchat. he/him alex might be able to wield male privilege if he spends a lot of time going on incel subreddits talking about ‘femoids,’ but lbr.... his boss isnt giving him a promotion over his coworker who’s a woman just bc he adds ‘he/him’ to his name tag.
honestly this shit gets pretty abstract the further we go from ‘how are people treated.’ im not a gender sociologist but i think that in order to have male privilege, you have to have two things: society at large has to view you as a man, and you have to identify as a man as well. without those two things, the term “male privilege” doesn’t make any sense.
i think the reason this convo sucks so much is bc ppl feel the need to decide which group has male privilege: pre-HRT trans women or pre-HRT trans men. the correct answer, imo, is that neither of them can meaningfully be said to have male privilege. trans women dont have male privilege; they’re women. even if she/her sam gets deferential treatment irl bc she doesnt pass, thats a nightmare situation for her. dysphoria-inducing and awful. she doesnt have male privilege. trans men tend to have male privilege when they start passing - its not a hard and fast line, but ppl have to agree that youre a man in order to treat you preferentially for being a man.
i just refuse to agree that theres somehow a law of equivalent exchange in place, where some pre-HRT trans person has to have male privilege bc .... reasons. in reality trans people will always have a relationship to gender that’s more complicated solely bc of our transness. u cant just copy and paste ‘shit that’s tru abt cis men’ onto trans men (or onto trans women, if you’re a transphobe.) there’s differences. there’s nuance. done.
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fotiathymos · 4 years
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do you have trans hcs for any other characters in promare? :0
I do! under cut cause im a TALKER whoops.
uhhh trigger warning that i do talk a bit about transphobia and unsupportive family.
I realize in my last post I didn’t mention it but Gueira and Meis aren’t cis! 
Gueira was born intersex and doesn’t agree to calling himself cis or trans. He is proud to be intersex. (do know this is a fictional character and not all real life people who are intersex agree or disagree with calling themselves cis or trans.)
Gueira uses he/him pronouns but doesn’t strictly dress masculine. Really just a comfy clothes wearer. 
Meis is trans genderfluid. Mostly uses they/them pronouns and has girl days or boy days sometimes where they can be more okay with she/her or he/him. Just leans into a mix usually. Actually doesn’t like being called Gueira’s boyfriend and rather ‘partner’. Gueira says it like a cowboy usually to make Meis giggle.
I do enjoy Ignis being an trans elder. (He is like 55 in my mind not 40 as i think canon states?) Ignis knew Galo was trans upon entering the job but of course did not out Galo to everyone. Galo isn’t secretive about being trans though. When Galo finds out Ignis is trans he cries happy tears and hugs him, making Ignis just a lil uncomfortable but not rejecting the hug.. hes got a reputation Galo.
I always had it in my head that Galo joined Burning Rescue and challenged all their thoughts on gender and etc. Considering they all grew up in a strict propaganda filled city some of them mightve just heard of terms but not thought about it too hard for..reasons. But then Galo comes into the work place being the ‘queer kid’ and wouldn’t take any bullshit. He grew up mostly by themself, discovered things on his own and does still feel that outward pressure to conform (esp with Kray, Galo is the most ‘passing as cis’ as he can be around Kray most times). So I thought mostly about everyone in BR were cis, not all of them straight but cis...bbuuutttt
Galo makes everyone question their thoughts on gender cause Galo is so open about his own and loves helping others. Galo does ‘mask’ themself sometimes and at first joining didn’t go full blown open. But one day Lucia needs a tampon and Galo had one in his bag and Lucia is like ‘um what?’ Galo goes casual and just ‘oh yeah.. i don’t need them anymore but its become habit to carry it around yaknow and you never know when it could come in handy!’
Lucia is the first to question if its okay to be non-binary lesbian, like maybe shes not entirely strictly ‘girl’. She’s loud and proud about being gay, lesbian flag above her desk, talks bout going to lesbian bars and wanting to just hold a girls hand. So she’s the first to feel okay enough to question herself gender wise.
Varys is that guy you might know in life who is just chill about everything. Galo comes out to Varys casually one day and Varys doesn’t linger on it at all. “Trans? Hell yeah! We still going out for bbq? Double hell yeah!” But he’s also a guy you never know whats going on in their head. He just remembers weirdly specific things you say sometimes and comes back at you with them later. Galo mentioned briefly that sunflowers remind him of his mother. Varys mails Galo sunflowers when Galo takes the day off on his mothers bday. Varys also randomly texts Galo ‘hey you know how youre trans, can i be like not always a man?’ 
Remi............................reMI UH. Remi is weird in my head. I feel hes that guy who just makes everything into a TMI or sex joke or just awkwardly flirts with everyone he becomes friendly with. Like just pushes the boundaries cause he thinks were friends now i can do this, without realizing hes over stepped them. That guy who thinks just cause your his friend now we can talk about sex casually. Hes quick to apologize when told off but still. I’m horrible I feel like Remi is that guy who’d consider him getting pegged by his girlfriend means he’s in with the lgbt crowd. He’s cis and comfortable with that and is confused by non-binary identities but won’t insult his coworkers and respect them. Eventually he’ll learn that just cause you are over 18 now, not everything in the world is related to sex. Idk if that made sense or if I threw him under the die-cis-scum buss too hard.
AND THEN THERE IS AINA.
Who... I adore. And even my head canons for her contrast and complement Galo like her story/character in the movie. So....shes trans.
We don’t get info about her family life but I’m assuming her sister raised her by herself and the parents weren’t in the picture. Aina came out to her sister right out of high school. Heris was starting college and working to provide for her and Aina. She flipped out on her and her words were ‘i dont care if youre a girl or a boy but those hormones can be pricey we dont have insurance you cant get surgery your too young, etc etc’ Unsupported in misreading the situation as an inconvenience to money and life and not the actuality of Aina just being herself and wanting to be honest about it. 
Aina gets ignored as her sisters career and life revolves around a sudden job with the Foundation. But Heris has money now. And is “supportive” in giving Aina money. Pays for her HRT, doctor visits, therapy, and then eventually training to be in Burning Rescue. And Heris is adamant that Aina never, EVER tells anyone she’s trans. Sweeps up any possible info about that under the rug. Doesn’t want to be looked at with a bad eye from Foresight. What Heris feels is a safety measure for her family is what Aina sees as shame. Kinda reflecting how Heris in the movie sees that shes doing ‘all this for you, Aina’ only for it to be cruel and harmful directly to Aina.
Aina doesn’t know what drew her to Galo. He’s cute and nice and friendly. Maybe it’s a crush? He understands me and no one ever did. He respects me for me. “Youre you Aina and theres nothing wrong with that.” (I forget the exact quote) The words play in her head for the longest time. She never came out to Burning Rescue for fear, cause Heris said not to, cause its ‘inconvenient’. And suddenly Galo is loud and proud about being trans??? Should she be too?? 
Eventually she confides in Galo. Probably after the Parnassus events. She realizes she doesn’t have a crush and was just not use to someone being nice to her and accepting her. She eventually tells the rest of Burning Rescue. Finds out Ignis knew all along due to paperwork but just once again, Captain isn’t gonna out his team member. 
And then finally during a late night movie sleepover. Galo’s like ‘you know we should hang the trans and non binary flag on the front of the station.’ Lucia goes ‘YEAH a big FUCK YOU to the Foundations normies!!!!’ Aina says ‘we should really run that past Captain first...’ Finally Ignis walks in, tilts down his sunglasses and says ‘I planned for this’ and unveils a flag that just says ‘fight the cis-tem’ and Galo and Lucia SCREAM. Only Galo knew Ignis was trans til that point..
I made a STORY damn.
I hope that wasn’t... too much... thank for reading.... ;u;/
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shhhhyoursister · 4 years
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do you have any hcs for what davenzi's been doing since s4 ended? how are they living how is their relationship? i don't even know i wanna hear your thoughts gremlin boy
so yeah this just hit me right in the fuckin soul and i wanna write some hcs okaY???? writing this actually made me tear up a little bit, their love is just breathtaking bro
- i wish i knew more about how film school works (or school in germany at all) but i know that david got in with his alien film (because the film they showed during the last ep of s4 was not davids film sorry wont accept it) and when david finds out he calls laura first and then matteo, and he only cries a little bit both times, and matteo and laura both actually cry, and tell him how proud they are, and matteo tells him that he needs to tell all of their friends immediately. david does, and his phone doesnt stop buzzing for an hour, and he doesnt stop GRINNING for for hours after. he calls his parents with matteo next to him leaning against his shoulder, and he’s surprised at how proud they actually sound, and when he hangs up matteo looks at him with badly concealed worry in his eyes, but david just grins again and nods. when the school year starts hes surprised at the amount of friends he makes during the first week, but nobody else is, and hes quickly convinced to join the main lgbt organization on campus, and he makes even more friends there that he can talk to about the stuff that other (cis) people just really dont get sometimes. he begs matteo to go with him to a meeting and matteo agrees, and grins and blushes when all of davids new friends start to complain to matteo about how much david talks about him, and david blushes and tells them to stop with a smile that hes failing to hide
- matteo quickly gets hired at some small restaurant where he works in the back and makes the “easy” stuff, and he might not be the cleanest or have the most technique, but his food is good and the boss and coworkers and customers all like him, and he makes good money there. he doesnt even mind having to wake up early for the morning shift, except for the moment he has to detangle himself from david.  he quickly befriends a few of the waiters and even makes vague plans to hang out with them outside of work some time, a fact that makes david have to hide a grin in matteos chest when hes telling him later that night. one day one of the cashiers starts being really nice to him, and then starts being really nice to him, and in a very awkward stuttery conversation matteo tells her very poltiely that he has a boyfriend who just so happens to be coming to pick him up that afternoon, and when david shows up and wraps his arm around matteos waist, she shoots matteo a thumb up that he returns with a small smile
- once it gets cold enough, matteo becomes even clingier, and blames it completely on the cold. he bundles up in sweaters and hoodies and jackets and hats and scarves, usually at least 2 of those items being davids, and barely takes any of that off even when hes inside. it makes it a little hard to cuddle, and david gets a little frustrated that hes missing out on the casual little brushes of his fingers on his boyfriends skin when he was just wearing a shirt and shorts. he hates when he goes into kiss him and instead of his boyfriends lips he ends up kissing the fabric of matteo’s scarf. its a little more annoying when hes trying to get his hands under matteos clothes and he has to wiggle his fingers under a shirt and 2 sweaters, and trying to convince him to take all of those clothes off suddenly becomes an extremely difficult task for david, who had gotten used to his ability to make matteo whip his shirt off with just a tilt of his head. one night theyre on the couch and his frustration suddenly makes him remember something that he can use to his advantage, and he grins and leans in to whispter into matteo’s ear, “ya know....the quickest way to get warm is skin to skin contact”. davids plan works and not even 5 minutes later he has matteo naked pressed up against him and theyre breathing hot into each others mouth and into the space under the comforter thats tugged over their heads, and matteo pulls away to say into davids neck, “fuck, you were right”
- the boys all hang out as much as they can despite how busy they all suddenly get once the year really starts, and its always a really chill and comforting time even when theyre all stupid drunk and carlos and abdi are wrerstling on the floor while matteo yells at jonas over the video game theyre playing, and david is laughing at all the action as he tries to hold matteo back from punching jonas. they invite mohammed as often as they can, and he comes as often as he can, a calming force on the group even when theres alcohol and other general tomfoolery around. him and david click and spend a lot of their time, when not engaged in the shenanigans, sitting next to each other and talking about anything and everything while laughing at their dumbass friends. ts weird without amira there, and since everyone loves them all so much, the mahmood brothers and mohammed are instantly sucked into the huge friend group. sometimes they try to get as many of them together as they can to facetime her together, and they all tear up when she pops onto the screen and looks happier than any of them had even been hoping for. they all get togehter at kiki and carlos’ place or matteo’s place as often as they can as a big group, and the get togethers alternate between being chill game nights and huge party nights, sometimes a weird mix of the 2, but everyone enjoys themselves even when theyre yelling at their friends for beating them in some stupid board game that nobody was paying more than half attention too
- david and matteo only become more comfortable and happy and in love with each other as the weeks pass, and they spend as much time together as they can despite their busy schedules. they cook together at davids place and always make sure theres enough for laura, they hang out in the kitchen and help when hans is in the mood to cook and drink wine with vicky and mia and laugh loud with their friends, they sleep together every night they can and sleep together every night they can. they cuddle on any couch theyre on together and make hot chocolate and tea and watch all the movies that david wants and all the movies that matteo wants, they talk about trans stuff and mental health stuff and queer stuff and life stuff and future stuff and at the end of those conversations they curl up together, almost left speechless at how in love they are and how sure they both are that they have found the person they are going to be with forever
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If you still do the flower ask thingys.. 👉👈 𝘼𝙡𝙡 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙢 𝙜𝙤 :)
HoooH boY hEre we gO-
Alisons: Sexuality?
I sexually identify as a can of beans
Amaranth: Pronouns/Gender?
Cis female she/her
Amaryllis: Birthday?
27 September
Anemone: Favorite flower?
All flowers pretty,, but stargazer lily, rose, dahlia and cherry blossoms
Angelonia: Favorite t.v. show?
I don't watch tv but I'll list some other stuff i like to watch:mha, beastars and aggretsuko
Arum-Lily: What’s the farthest you’d go for a stranger?
Idk depends on scenario??
Aster: What’s one of your favorite quotes?
"Kanye West he likes, fingers in his ass."
Aubrieta: Favorite drink?
Any Milkshakes or smoothies (mostly banana and strawberry for milkshake and p much anything for smoothie)
Baby’s Breath: Would you kiss the last person you kissed again?
I've never had kith
Balsam Fir: Have you ever been in love?
Well you see yes but actually no
Baneberries: Favorite song?
I listen to a lot but to keep it short:baby in the kitchen, in my mouth and friends slowed (chase atlantic)
Basket of Gold: Describe your family.
We p chill fam
Beebalm: Do you have a best friend? Who is it?
Irl bestie,, shes not on tumblr lol
Begonia: Favorite color?
PinKKK
But i like most colours
Bellflower: Favorite animal?
Cats,,,,
FoxES,
ANYTHING CUDDLY AND CUTE
Bergenia: Are you a morning or night person?
Night
Black-Eyed Susan: If you could be any animal for a day, what would it be?
I'd be like a doggo bc it would be the most fun i think-
Bloodroots: When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?
I wanted to be a vet but then when my granny asked me "but whos gonna clean up the animal poop?" I was like "eWW pO0pP!" and then decided that mayb i shouldn't be a vet
Bluemink: What are your thoughts on children?
They're either really kind and sweet
Or literal demons from hell
Legit no inbetween
Blazing Stars: What are you afraid of? Is there a reason why?
I'm afraid of lot of things-
Borage: Give a random fact about your childhood.
I was one dumbass bitcg-
Bugleherb: How would you spend your last day on Earth?
Idk eat pizza and cry or smth ajakamkw
Buttercup: Relationship Status?
Single
Camelia: If you could visit anywhere, where would you want to go?
NEW YORKKK, CONCRETE JUNGLE WHERE DREAMS ARE MADE OFFF THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN'T DO NOW YOU'RE IN NEW YOOORKKK
Candytufts: When do you feel most loved?
When someone hugs me or just generally spends time with me
Canna: Do you have any tattoos?
Nop
Canterbury Bells: Do you have any piercings?
I used to have piercings when i was a bab but eHh haven't worn them since and i dont think my ear holes are big enough now-
California Poppy: Height?
4'10 grrr I'm the omega midget and I'll devour ur ankles
Cardinal Flower: Do you believe in ghosts?
Nop
Carnation: What are you currently wearing?
Pant, pink top and black hoodie
Catnip: Have you ever slept with a nightlight?
I think i have??
Chives: Who was the last person you hugged?
My mom and my dad
Chrysanthemum: Who’s the last person you kissed?
I never kith
Cock’s Comb: Favorite font?
I dont have one so imma say sans bc it always looks out of place and makes me laugh-
Columbine: Are you tired?
No
I feel like screaming and jumping around my room like a crackhead
Common Boneset: What are you looking forward to?
Nothing in particular ig
Coneflower: Dream job?
Smth kinda fun and art or design related hopefully,,,,
Crane’s-Bill: Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert but i also get lonley easily
Crocus: Have you ever been in love?
Nop,,,,
Crown Imperial: What’s the farthest you would go for someone you care about?
I would get run over by 5 monster trucks, jump off a plane, get mauled by 10 bears, get trampled on by a stampede, get brutally tortured for 12 hours straight, yeet myself into the Grand Canyon and then break all my bones with my bare hands if they weren't broken already
Ok basically i care a lot
Cyclamen: Did you have a favorite stuffed animal as a child? What was it?
I had this st bernard plush called Sparky and this lion named Sammy,,
Daffodil: What’s your zodiac sign?
Libra
Dahlia: Have you done anything worth remembering?
My memory is legit so bad it's probably concerning uHHH
Daisy: What do you feel is your greatest accomplishment?
Mayb art??
Daylily: What would you do if your parents didn’t like your partner(s)?
Ehhh i might reason with them and then if they still disagreed I'd just keep the relationship a secret
Dendrobium: Who is the last person that you said “I love you” to?
My parents
False Goat’s Beard: What is something you are good at?
Ehhh arT
Foxgloves: What’s something you’re bad at?
EhhHh everything that isn't art-
Freesia: What are three good things that have happened in the past month?
Oh boy here comes my shitty memory-
Hmmm
Idk but I'm mostly happy that I've been more social and stuff and i feel like im kinda coming out of my shell a bit
Not sure what to say for other 2 bc nothing in particular has really happend?
Garden Cosmos: How was your day today?
Ehhh oK??
Gardenia: Are you happy with where you’re at in your life?
Mayhapsn't
Gladiolus: What is something you hope to do in the next year or two?
I hope to pass all my exams and get an okish job mayb
Glory-of-the-Snow: What are ten things that make you happy/you’re grateful to have in your life?
1.fRIENBS ILY MY HABIBIS
2. Fammm
3. eHhh yummy food,,
4. Drawing and uhhh art
5. EPIC MUTUALS
6. Ok idk what else aside from like serious stuff like house and etc.-
Heliotropium: What helps you calm down when you feel stressed?
Drawing, crying, venting to a friend/parent
Hellebore: How do you show affection?
Hugssss,kith,cuddle, *draws u stuff*
Hoary Stock: What are you proudest of?
MmmmmMy aRRt?
Hollyhock: Describe your ideal day.
Wake up
Don't go to school
Vibe with friends
Sleeb
Hyacinth: What do you like to do in your free time?
MmMmMM aRT-
Hydrangea: How long have you known your best friend? How did you meet them?
Ehh 8yrs? We met in hell school
Irises: Who can you talk to about (almost) everything?
Friendos
Mom
Laceleaf: How many friends do you have?
6..?? Aa idk theres some people that idk if they'd consider me a friend or not,,
Lantanas: What’s the best compliment you’ve ever received?
Idk any compliment is best compliment for me,,
Larkspur: What do you think of yourself?
Ew yucky gröss
Lavender: What’s your favorite thing about yourself?
m y a r t
Also my hair bc its soft and wavy,,
Leather Flower: What’s your least favorite thing about yourself?
Everything else-
Lilac: What’s something you liked to do as a child?
Climb trees and do dumb shit
Lily: Who was your best friend when you were a kid?
Same irl bestie i mentioned before
Lily of the Incas: What is something you still feel guilty for?
MmmmmmMMM,,,
Lily of the Nile: What is something you feel guilty for that you shouldn’t feel guilty about?
MMMmMMmMMMMmmmMMm,,,,,,
Lupine: What does your name mean? Why is that your name?
Well I chose Fae bc i thought it sounded pretty
Marigold: Where did you grow up? Tell us about it.
Idk what to rlly say lmao
Morning Glory: What was your bedroom like growing up?
Kinda the same but i had toys everywhere-
Also when i was like 5 i had this legit fucking cursed thomas the tank engine shaped bed that i actually found a pic of but it's FUCKING HORRIFYING SO I PROBS WONT SHOW HERE-
Mugworts: What was it like for you as a teenager? Did you enjoy your teenage years?
EW BEING A TEENAGER SUCKS ASS HOW DO I UNDO????
Norwegian Angelica: Tell us about your mom.
Hi mom ily ur epic
Onions: Tell about your dad.
Hi dad ily ur epic
Orchid: Tell about your grandparents.
Omg i miss my grannies sm bc i couldn't see em this year bc nasty pandemic
Pansy: What was your most memorable birthday? What made it be so memorable?
Haha shit memory gor brrRR-
I don't really remember too many specific parties but when i was like 7-10 i had these epic parties in those birthday places with the giant play areas
I kinda wish i wasn't too old to go to them sobs
Peony: What was your first job?
I haven't had a job yet
Petunia: If you’re in a relationship, how did you meet your partner(s)? If you’re not in a relationship, how did you meet your crush/how do you hope to meet your future partner(s), if you want any?
Hmmmm idk? I haven't really thought abt that but i don't really mind i just wanna find someone to vibe with,,
Pincushion: How do you deal with pain?
I cri
Pink: Where is home?
Home is home home
Plantain Lilies: If you could go back in time, what is one thing you would stop/change?
Now where do i start...
Prairie Gentian: Who is someone you look up to? Describe them.
I look up to people that are kind, caring, brave, funny, cool or stronger than me ig?
Primrose: Describe your ideal life.
Basically my current life minus school, stress,pandemic and responsibilities lmao
Rhodendron: What is something you used to believe in as a child?
I used to believe in ghosts after i thought i encountered one
Ricinus: Who’s the most important in your life?
Hermmmst
Rose: What’s your favorite sound?
Peoples laughsss also music
Rosemallows: What’s your favorite memory?
Bro i dont have one,, my aphantasia makes it hard for me to remember stuff-
Sage: What’s your least favorite memory?
A
Snapdragon: At this moment, what do you want?
I wantttt better chargersss thattt donttt telll meee thatt myyy tablett will finishh chargingg innn 1 dayy andd 7 hoursss
St. John’s Wort: Is it easy or difficult for you to express how you feel about things?
Kinda difficult but im opening up more
Sunflower: What is something you don’t want to imagine life without?
fRIENDS,,,,,wAh
Sweet Pea: How much sleep did you get last night?
8 hrs
Tickseed: What’s your main reason to get up every morning?
Idk ig i kinda have to go to school and do stuff
Touch-Me-Not: How do you feel about your current job?
Non existant
Transvaal Daisy: What’s your favorite item of clothing?
My black and white stripy top, and all my hoodiess
Tropical White Morning Glory: Describe your aesthetic.
I don't think i have just one aesthetic bc im drawn to so many different aesthetics at the same time-
Like vintage, neon, dark, spoopy, pastel, cute, etc etc
Tulip: What would be the best present to get you?
OMG I LEGIT JUST SCREAM AT ANYTHING ANYONE GIVES ME-
IF SOMEONE GOES OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE ME SMTH I CRY,,
Vervain: What’s stressing you out most right now?
🤏
Wisteria: How many books have you read in the past few months? What were they called?
I haven't been reading anythinggg
But i should really finish reading Percy Jackson bc it do be picking up dust-
Wolf’s Bane: Where do you want to be in life this time next year?
Everywhere
Yarrow: Do you know what vore is?
Mmm yummy 👅
Zinnia: Give a random fact about yourself.
I am currently living and breathing yes
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