#i can't imagine how trans women must be dealing with this

[moodlesmain]

while im (takes a deep breath to hold back my rage) sympathetic to the fans of Those Wizard Books who're taking a death of the author approach so long as they're not supporting the series financially or actively promoting it and are sticking to fan communities, I really, *really* wish people would put away their merch. Because when I see someone in public with merch from it, I always have to wonder if I'm safe around them as a trans person, if my trans friends are safe. And that's a sucky feeling to have, especially when talking to people who otherwise seems perfectly fine and nice!!! A lot of HP fans are just, people!!! Who maybe don't know what the big deal is, or have chosen to deal with the problem by doubling down to spite the author!! But even when I know for a fact they're totally safe or even trans themselves, I don't want to be constantly reminded of the series whose author is an incredibly rich and powerful person whose whole agenda for the past several years has been to push back against the rights of people like me, and who people like my own god damn mother is more willing to listen to about trans people than her own nonbinary child.

I know it's irrational to feel surges of rage at the mere mention of a popular multimedia franchises, but while I know not every trans person is bothered by it, I also know that a lot of trans people and even allies *are* bothered by it. Just... begging for some understanding, and for people to just PLEASE dial back their fandom-ing in public spaces, especially mostly queer spaces. You don't know how much difference it might make in the comfort and feeling of safety for the trans people around you

#maybe this matters less in the US #or like anywhere else in the world #but in the UK............. please holy shit terfs are a bigger force here than anywhere else #PLEASE stop openly showing support for the multimedia franchise that made the one with the most mainstream influence insanely rich #that she still uses to prop up her arguments about trans people #do you know that she's claimed the fact that people still like her wizard books means that shows people support her beliefs? #do you know that she's compared queer people to the villains of her books? #do you know how much she hates us? how much she hates our transfemme sisters especially? #im just a short afab nonbinary weirdo #i'm not seen as a threat by anyone #i can't imagine how trans women must be dealing with this #vent post #technically #ugh #sorry this has been on my mind for a while and i'm in a weird mood rn #don't come at me for this just block me if you're going to be bothered enough by this #because if you do bother me i'll just block you first lmao #edit: not that not being seen as a threat is necessarily a good thing because in the case of us afab enbies we're mostly just dismissed #there's a lot of us but it also feels like we're so invisible outside our own communities #we're just assumed as queer women most of the time especially those of my generation who haven't had any opportunity to medically transitio #except the lucky few who were able to get a diagnosis relatively early in life #or had the money to turn to private healthcare #trans men who don't pass too #moodle rambles

[official-megumin]

there is always this discourse about if transfem and transmascs have it worse

And like, I know it's not really quantifiable and measureable to find the objective suckiness of being trans.

But like

Man it's gotta suck to be a trans guy. This is coming from the perspective of a trans girl btw.

I know that not all transmascs care about passing and having a "fully male body", like everyone decides for themselves what they wanna do. But let's see this from the perspective from a trans guy who wants to be as close to a cis perisex man as possible, this guy is also perisex afab, meaning normal development and stuff.

Ok, so for this man to "finish" his transition, he would need like, what? 3 surgeries. All of which are gatekept. He would need top surgery, tit chop as you say.

This is already a lot, and it sucks fucking dick that y'all have to wait for that. But other than that already sucky and gatekept surgery, we also have phalloplastry, which many countries including Denmark, doesn't offer at all because it's more complicated than vaginoplastry.

This is also a hugely impactful surgery, and I assume that for many trans men, it also doesn't really feel good enough because no semen and dick pump. Of course I'm no expert, so don't take what I say as gospel, I might flat out be wrong about many things.

But that still isn't it. By now we have moved past surgeries the average transfem would "need"

Like yes, many trans women end up getting BA and FFS to combat dysphoria on top of bottom surgery, but they aren't "required" in the same way. So let's round it out and say one half of both of those surgeries count, so that means that transfems on average get two gender affirming surgeries. Which means that now, transfem and transmasc surgery counts are the same.

But wait, there's more!

There are also hysterectomies to remove the uterus and ovaries. Which again is very extremely gatekept because "devine femininity"(bleugh)

That's three surgeries to transition "normally" for a transmasc versus the two of a transfem, already there it's more sucky.

Of course this is not taking other typically gendered features into account like hip and shoulder width, which is too variable to really take into account here. Also it is not as widely different between the sexes as some people claim.

But this is just the surgery front.

I can't even begin to imagine how dysphoria inducing dealing with menstruation must be to a trans man.

Like periods suck dick, I know that from personal exprience. It hurts like shit for like a week at a time and there's blood everywhere.

But for trans men you add fucking dysphoria on top of that???? Hellish, the female reproductive system is so invasive and intrusive. For transfems we can just y'know, not touch the thingy and we won't have to worry about a visceral bloody reminder every month that stays even after hrt starts.

Really what I want to say is that yea sure maybe transfems struggle more with sexism and such whilst transitioning, I'd argue even that is not quantifiable and will be hugely variable on how the individual looks(speaking from experience as a trans girl who has not once had transphobia aimed at her in person in public from strangers)

But the physical struggle of transitioning? I think that trans masculine transitions take the cake by far here. Like objectively too.

And all the transmascs out there at all, doesn't matter how dysphoric you are, or how far you wanna take your transition. I respect you so god damn much, and I'm in awe of all of you. You're genuinely incredible

#I'm really sorry if I phrased anything poorly or if I triggered dysphoria in anyone #I just wanted to give a different look on this stupid discourse because I think trying to decide who has it worse is pointless #and I just wanted to elavate transmasc people in general

[theaquinn-misc]

A-spec Lesbian

I decided to make my own list of things that have helped me realized I'm gay. Disclaimer: I'm not the arbiter of what makes someone an aspec lesbian, however if you experience some or most of these it's something to consider. Disclaimer 2: I've also not had a lot of experience dating so I can't include much of that here. This post will be divided in 3 sections: Men, Women and NBs and media

Men:

only crushing on "unavailable" men: married, in a relationship, much older, gay, fictional, celebrities

"crushing" on men and enjoying fantasizing about them, but not trying to flirt or even get close to them in any way

"crushing on a man" for a set period of time and then and thinking he's the hottest thing since sliced bread, but later (especially after a physical separation) finding him meh or cringey

fantasies about men having more to do with being happy and fulfilled in life and being seen as someone to be jealous of, not so much about the specific person

having a crush/attraction to a man only for him to return it and you realize that you feel uncomfortable

meeting a guy who is conventionally attractive and meets all your standards and telling yourself you are attracted to him but still feeling a weird pressure in your stomach/chest because "something is missing"

liking a guy, until he changes something minor about his appearance (shaves, does his hair differently) and then finding him basic/meh and losing all attraction to him

never understanding what women see in the men they date or like in media, at least looks-wise

finding even extremely conventionally attractive men to be kinda meh and thinking women attracted to men must be exaggerating how hot they find them

being uncomfortable when you find out a man has a crush on you and wanting him to stay away, but with women/nbs it's just a bit awkward and overall no big deal

having to force sexual and romantic fantasies for men and getting bored of them after a while

finding the most aesthetically attractive man in a group and deciding you are attracted to him (bonus points: being relieved when you find out he's taken/ and/or you could never date him for some reason)

being anxious or sad or bored when you imagine your life with a man

only wanting to date men if it's polyamorous (note: this is not to invalidate poly people, but if you can only imagine dating one gender ONLY if it's poly and having no issues to be monogamous with another gender... that might be something to look into)

getting sad/anxious/bored at the idea that your first boyfriend could be your forever partner. thinking "of course i want to experience life before I settle down"

wanting to dress sexy and reveal your body, but wanting to hide it when a man pays attention to you

Men expressing their attraction to men is more relatable than women expressing their attraction for men Women/ NBs:

finding only a few men aesthetically attractive but nearly every woman/queer/nb person (esp more femme ones) being gorgeous to you

wanting to impress and/or be liked by "special" women

going on dating apps and switching to "women only" even though you are (supposedly) bi/pan (note: some people may do this for safety reasons but if you can't even IMAGINE finding a guy off an app, even if you take all possible precautions, well...)

finding the fantasy of sharing your life with a woman/nb person far more rewarding and satisfying than the fantasy of doing those same things with a man

having some inkling of attraction to trans women pre-coming out, but suddenly thinking they are the most gorgeous people ever post knowing they are women(especially if they go on HRT),

really "admiring" masc/butch women and women who break gender roles (women in suits, women with defined muscles etc.)

thinking that everyone thinks women are more aesthetically attractive than men (hint: ask a gay man about this)

having deep feelings about a female actor, singer, teacher growing up etc. that feel special and unique

feeling guilty in locker rooms, not wanting to look at women too long

getting really excited at the idea of having a gf, or being a girl/nb person's gf/ partner but not feeling the same way about dating boys/men

wishing to be a lesbian because you think lesbians are cool and/or to avoid dating men

feeling uncomfortable feelings about the label lesbian, especially when applied to you (but not gay/queer/sapphic/wlw/nblw etc.)

not getting crushes on women IRL often because you're still aspec

getting crushes on fictional women, influencers, celebrities etc. Media:

never relating to m/f pairings even if they have bi/pan characters or the m/f relationships you see in media or around you.

shipping m/f, but thinking "that's cool for them, but I don't want that" (note: this might also have to with gender, if you're nb)

imagining yourself as the "man" in m/f ships never the woman

not relating to f/f ships with two thin conventionally feminine and usually white women (esp if you are fat, gnc, WoC, and/or are attracted to butch/masc women)

seeing posts about the attractiveness of men but relating them to m/m ships, not yourself

wanting every bi/pan character to be in a "gay" or at least, in a visibly queer relationship

only relating to m/f ships if they are more obviously queer. Like say, masc woman with a twink boyfriend (side note, I've never seen that, so if you have recs please send them my way)

only being able to get off on gay/lesbian porn, finding straight porn to be unsatisfying or boring or uncomfortable (note: porn is not a great way to determine sexualaity as most actresses are fetishized and fake prgasms, and most lesbian porn is not made for sapphics. but still) Things you are allowed to do as a lesbian/don't make you less gay:

Have m/f ships you feel strongly about

read/write m/f smut

relate to/write bi/pan characters

joke about liking celebrity men & fictional men

not be attracted to the women the lesbian community has decided are the hottest thing since sliced bread (Kristen Stewart is not everyone's type)

not be comfortable with certain sex acts or sex as a whole

#lesbian #asexual #aromantic #aromantic lesbian #asexual lesbian #aroace lesbian #questioning #am i a lesbian #terfs fuck off #questioning tag #mine #aspec lesbian #comphet

[daydreamodyssey]

This ended up being longer than I planned, so I'm sorry beforehand. It was about a whatever video of a girl using heightism, saying something stupid but possibly insidious, and me reflecting on our culture toward smallness, particularly with men and how it deals with gender.

(There's a fun present for those who read the whole thing, I promise!)

I saw a tiktok of a girl candidly and cheerfully saying she'd never date a short guy (5'8 or below, she was 5'2) because of a Napoleon complex.

Standard stuff, though still crossing into prejudice.

But then she goes off, in a chipper mood, about deleting them. That really stuck with me.

Best scenario, she just means deleting them off dating sites. Which is still crass and wouldn't fly if she said something similar about other attributes.

Worst scenario, which wouldn't be the first time I heard it, she means literally and physically delete them. She was talking to a guy out on the streets too, so this isn't done terminally online jerk. A lot of women saying they want men dead isn't cute or funny.

I hope people understand that having a preference or having a bad history with whatever group are different than this rhetoric. Even if that person can control something, as opposed to the near permanence of height, it shouldn't mean this group is inherently bad. The issue is the personality, not how long your limbs are or what genes you have. It's a really weird bioessentialism that says if you look different than your gender norm, you are a suspect and a creep in waiting.

There's also this other connection with many men smaller than (the US) average being men of color, which can have a racist and nativist tone. And since height can be affected by the environment, along with making many short people less likely to have high paying jobs and roles, there's probably a classist element, too. A lot of trans men are also short if you want to include transphobia, who already get barely any acknowledgement about how they're treated.

With a lot of women saying "it's in our genes or brains," and one I saw saying for short men to Stay In The Gym, there is this unspoken rule that men MUST be large and dominant or they're not seriously men. With the whole obsession over genetics and strong men, there is a dangerous overlap with trad and fascist ideals, especially with how radical right wing propaganda works (in the 30s/40s and now with the Chad Trad shit).

I don't think a lot of people, men or women, consciously think about this stuff. They could just be shallow assholes. But smallness is almost always seen as infantilism or criminality with no nuance in humanizing, let alone respect as lovers and workers. Maybe there's some taboo part of our private brain that still latches onto "big = strong against predators and rivals" and we don't want to admit and question it like with women and how we judge their looks.

When people say Napoleon complex, it's always vague, like it can mean anything from being aggressive to just being confident to someone taller. It doesn't mean anything and it just causes a Catch 22; you either accept your place on the arbitrary social ladder or you're insecure and in the spotlight. You can't win because you're not supposed to win.

For every short jerk, there's also a tall jerk. A tall jerk who has popularity, fans, girls, money, and literally more weight to throw around. Am I surprised there's a preference? No. I can still be upset about it because I'm human and I'm naturally going to be mad at things that feel unfair and need leverage. And I'm going to be upset when it feels ignored or derided because people don't want to admit they have biases that are more socially acceptable. I'm going to be upset that I and others who are around my height or even shorter have to push limits every day just be treated equally. I can't imagine having dwarfism and seeing these videos or hearing others on the street.

I hear pretty much everything from "short men are rapists for wanting women to be attracted to them" to eugenics and wanting us just dead. There's definitely other traits that compound the toll on a person (weight for myself) that can be greater or lesser, but it's definitely consistent and I've been seeing it rise over the years after some acceptance in the mid '10s.

We need to have honest conversations and reflections about our relationship with size and what it means to be a man. If you want to abolish the patriarchy but still insult a guy because he doesn't look as big and strong and dominant as other men, then you're playing the same side as the men in power or manosphere chuds. The amount of radfems I see hating short men is honestly funny. Like there's no tall misogynists or abusers out there.

If short men, or just A short man messed you up, I'm sorry you had to go through that. But it wasn't like he was infected with the Small Virus, he might've been just a jerk, the same way tall people might be jerks. Just understand that you're overlooking many people because of a bad experience and how dangerously close that mentality is when applying to other people, or toward yourself.

If you read long enough, I congratulate you, and I offer you this one hell of a title I saw in a flea market the other day.

#heightism #short men #social justice #toxic masculinity

[nothorses]

how do i, as a stealth transmasc, misdirect people who call me a (transfem) egg without coming off as transphobic? often they think of me as an egg because i care "just a little too much" about trans issues and trans hcs, and/or because im very gnc and gay. i want to project the vision of a cis binary gay man that's very comfortable in his gender but respects trans rights, but i don't know how to make people respect my gender without either sounding like i would NEVER consider the idea of being transfem, or without them coming away from the interaction still thinking of me as a "potential girl". i should clarify that most people do not outright call me an egg, but that seems to be the impression i get from a lot of trans people that i interact with online, and some have even told me "if you're not trans now, you will be later".... for now ive resorted to the excuse that i have trans friends and family members (which is true) and that for a time i did actually question my gender as a transfem and decided i was not one (which is not). but its frustrating that i have to lie and explain myself like that for people to leave me and my gender alone. it sometimes feels like being stealth on this website is harder than just presenting as trans.

I don't know if I really have The Correct Advice for you, because I think there's really only so much anyone can do to dissuade nosy internet strangers from being way the hell too in your business (from personal experience and observation, lol).

But something you might try is leaning into the gay aspect of your identity, and the historical connection and solidarity between gnc gay folks and trans people; the idea of gay men's gender as Different from straight men's gender, even if both are men, and the nuances of that relationship to maleness under patriarchy.

Maybe also just, like, expressing discomfort with that interpretation of you through that lens- which I'm sure you've done, but some extra questions to try asking might be: Why do gay men need to Actually Be Women? Why can't they be gay? Why do men who care about trans people need to Actually Be Women- why are we setting the expectation that cis men are actually incapable of trans solidarity? Why can't cis gay men have nuanced and well-considered relationships to maleness that are different from straight men's, without Actually Being Women?

I mean even aside from the fact that their perception of you as "potential girl" is nosey and invasive and invalidating (not to mention condescending), it's also genuinely ignoring a lot of historical context, and nuances in the gay community & gay identity. Our communities are more related than they want to think, and it's reductive and binary to insist that gnc gay men can't be the way they are and still be men. Even if you're coming at it from a Support Trans Women angle, it's still just "gay men aren't real men" in a trans hat.

(Which of course isn't to say that a lot of folks do start their journey that way; as "gnc gay men who care a lot about trans rights" to transfemmes. That's a common path, and for good reason. I'm not invalidating that. But jesus, not every horse girl turns out to be a trans guy, and not every gnc gay turns out to be a trans girl.)

Idk!! I'm sorry you're dealing with this, and I really hope you find a way to get people off your back about it. I can imagine how invalidating it must feel to be perceived that way.

[aftonfamilyvalues]

That moid saying 'the world sees me as a woman' is such a joke. No woman would be allowed to be as ugly as him in public. I hate going after looks because I feel that people can't help what they look like but he wants to be treated as a woman so bad? Fine. I'll do it. What's with those ropey arms, sis? That dress really highlights your lack of boobs and hips. Are you even using conditioner because your hair is pretty lank. Are you in, like, a pity fashion week? Or is it 'what not to wear'?

the only reason he has any of the fame and opportunity he has is because hes a transwoman. if he were just a regular degular woman, he would not be getting all this support and have 7 million tiktok followers who think of him as a smol precious trans bean that must be protected at all costs.

i wish this was some sort of act that points out how ass backwards gender ideology is. i mean, his videos all feel like they themselves are parodies. at every single turn hes digging into misogynistic stereotypes, all he does is "joke" about being super emotional and crying and being obsessed with buying clothes and shoes and makeup he cant afford all while rapidly switching between incredibly childish and super sexualized versions of femininity. the first 3 days are good examples of this. everything he does is super outlandish and by all means offensive to women and he still gets rewarded with brand deals (why is tampax trying to sponsor a literal male who is incapable of menstruation?) and opportunities and fame left and right.

could you imagine that though?

#ask

[21stcenturyschizoidfag]

im gonna stop posting and have a nap soon since i am very overtired but i've been fixated on some thoughts about my gender for the past half an hour and i feel the need to get it out in some capacity lol, u can skip this one if u like

i really love being feminine, i love taking up stereotypically feminine roles like the protector and carer and everything like that, and i feel like i always assumed this meant i must just be confused about myself in the sense that instead of actually being trans (and whatever that even means) i was just looking for a way out of having to deal with the implications of misogyny and the experience of being a woman, but like. over the years as my understanding of myself has matured i kind of realise that i don't really care what groups people put me in anymore because i know myself to be a man; it's not as if i feel like there's some essential part of me that shines thru or as if i have a "male soul" or i was born in the wrong body or anything, it's like. i get painfully dysphoric a lot, especially lately, but when i do start testosterone it'll be to help me feel more comfortable, not to try and "represent" something i feel is missing.. I don't even really know how to word it lol this is all very stream of consciousness since i've been up for about ~16 hours by now LOL

just like. i want to be a nurturing older brother-type figure, i want to be a loving dad, i want to be the type of man that women feel comfortable and safe around, and that doesn't require me to be feminine but i can't imagine myself in those roles without accepting my own femininity, i guess. and it means a lot to me because i have a number of friends both online and offline that have expressed to me that they see these traits in me without me even talking about how it's something i want to embody and it makes me so emotional lol; i dont need a reason as to Why im trans but the fact that whatever im doing is making sense to people who know me is so validating and all it really does is make me more and more excited to begin medical transition so i can have more experiences like those & it makes me really giddy to think of how itll be when im living as someone whos more easily recognised as a man

#long post #i dont know how to do a readmore on mobile FUCK! so youre getting this tagged instead #im so tired girl but like ya.. i love being trans #i love my masculinity #yvesposting

[gaogaigoatgrrl]

right, so i guess this is probably the appropriate time for me to dip my toe into bi lesbian discourse, happy pride month

some people get really mad about the term and as a result i've been really reluctant to use it (hence the "sapphic" in my bio) but idk what the vibes are like on tumblr so i might as well talk about it here

i genuinely cannot find another satisfactory label for my sexuality. i think i could describe its exact workings to two different people, and one of them might call me a lesbian affected by comphet, and the other might call me a bi woman affected by trauma relating to men, and you know what? i think both of them would be equally correct. to my knowledge there is currently no word in the english lexicon for that area of overlap and ambiguity, so i have to make do by smashing two existing terms together

the mechanics in question, by the way, are that i'm consistently attracted to women and rarely (and unreliably) attracted to men. i can't make universal statements about my attraction or unattraction to nonbinary people since there are so many ways to be nonbinary. but at any rate, whatever attraction i do feel for men flickers on and off, like a bad radio signal or faulty electrical current. when i think it's there, it vanishes; when i think it's gone, it sideswipes me out of nowhere

i know i'm attracted to women. but whenever i try to make definitive statements about whether or not i'm attracted to men, sooner or later experience comes along and smacks me upside the head one way or another, taunting me for my arrogance in thinking i had a handle on my own orientation. framing it as some kind of superposition helps to deal with this ambiguity, even if it means using two terms at once that seem mutually exclusive

i know that not everyone who uses the label uses it the way that i do, and i understand that some sapphics have specific criticisms of the term. i've seen lesbians say nonspecifically that it is harmful to them (i don't know how to engage with this statement when the nature of the harm isn't clarified), i've seen the claim made that use of the term will make men think it's ok to hit on lesbians (i think the men who would do that would do it regardless and that men who disregard lesbians' boundaries should be held accountable for their actions, not sapphics), i've seen it stated that bi lesbians simply don't understand that they can be bi with a preference (i do, and i still don't think that's an accurate descriptor in my case), and i've seen the accusation that the term constitutes bi erasure (how exactly isn't clear, given that you literally cannot use the term without acknowledging the existence of bisexuality)

i've seen such incredible rage over this term on other sites and never, once, have i seen that rage produce an argument against it that i found compelling, or indeed even attempt to examine the phenomenon bi lesbians are trying to describe rather than imagining what it "must" be and dismissing it out of hand. i know this isn't the most pressing matter affecting the queer community, or even the sapphic community specifically, but i am so, so exhausted and i get unreasonably fearful when it comes to disclosing the details of my orientation and that sucks! i don't get this kind of shit in queer spaces for being a nonbinary trans woman!

[imagining-in-the-margins]

New Raymond Smut Blurb tomorrow at 5PM EST! 👻

1. Yeah... I don't really know what to do about it. I only started posting on there because they wouldn't stop stealing my works. I'm fucked no matter what I do. It's exhausting.

I really think that it's the situation where someone is jealous that my fics get views, and they assume that if they remove me from their competition, more people will read their works. But that's simply not how fandom works. Fanfic readers will read everything they can find. You'll have much better luck asking me to help promote your work (or doing it yourself, which is always welcome on my page).

I hope they deal with that anger or bitterness they're clearly suffering from, though. That must be equally tiring. I can't imagine being that miserable all the time.

2. VALUABLE INFO, THANK YOU.

So, Wes would probably be around 40.

So, Wes would probably be around 40.

(And thank you for the kind words!)

4. Oooh, I shall keep it in mind! Love me some tone/scene requests!

5. Ugh, what I wouldn't give for a Wes 😔 Thank you, my dear!

6. Ah, I'm so glad I could offer you a little safe haven. Thank you for not only reading it, but taking the time to comment! It is very touching. Your comment about most of it being smut is actually exactly why I don't accept MLM smut requests. It makes me wildly uncomfortable how much women (or anyone other than gay men, honestly) fetishize gay men. Y'all deserve softness ☺️💕

If you're ever looking for more prime trans man content, or a place to send requests, please consider my wonderful friend @ontheoddoccasioniwritestuff ! He helped me a ton with that piece.

#answer #answered #tbatb

[alines7777]

aight, here's a piece of 'creative writing' that i've been brainstorming.

basically, it's about samson, a famed homophobic and transphobic radio evangelist, who dies and goes to hell, and meets the princes of hell, who subsequently berate him for his character and deeds on earth. and it more or less gets into the CORE reason why conservatives always turn out to be shitheads in their seeking of bible verses as a shield for their bigotry, and even hypocrisy. it's also to demonstrate that, as written in the tanakh, god is beyond good and evil, especially any one person's view of it.

the thing here is that based on everything i read from the bible, everything the princes of hell say here is true, or at the very least reasonable. and i think the following sort of bigotry and disrespect toward humanity as a whole, whom lucifer accurately calls the ADAM, is the character attributed to lucifer in other texts, and i also think it serves as a nice foil for samson's bigotry toward the lgbti community, just as samson serves as a nice foil for lucifer's expulsion from YHVH's hosts.

and on that note, i think it would be fair warn that this work includes the use of transphobic slurs, albeit from a perspective of a being that cares as little for humanity as a whole as it does toward the plight of trans people.

but what both of them never really stop to consider is that they all supposedly share god's breath in common. and god's breath is held in the tanakh as the source of life, that every breath we take is literally god's.

(try to imagine leviathan sounding as though he's stifling laughter as he speaks)

....

samson : ugh. who are all of you? where am i?

leviathan : GEHINNOM. HELL.

samson : no! that can't be right! that's impossible! i was spreading the truth about your bid to destroy america with the gay and trans agenda! i was bringing people back to the right path that god set for man and woman in marriage. i was saving america from your throes! i was the champion of the holy crusade against the trans and gay agenda to soften and feminize america to make it yours instead.

* the princes start busting into laughter *

asmodeus : are you kidding? as if anyone even needs sodomy or transsexuality to be pulled away from marriage in the first place! o, but i'm sure you know better from experience, right? but we have witnessed the rise and fall of MANY nations throughout EONS, so why should we even remotely care about america above any others? what an idiot!

lucifer : listen, samson, god is the one who chooses the fate of all nations, not us, haven't you even read the word he left for you? so if "the sodomites and transsexuals" really are destroying america as you say they are, then it's precisely because god wants them to, now you're free to take any guess at why. besides, we are hardly interested even in the ADAM that you'd find here, let alone those that still roam earth, and you won't find us delivering any of our bidding to DIRT beneath our feet. there is no fight between us and YHVH over the ADAM, the only ones you have to blame for your sins and the fall of your nations are YOURSELVES.

leviathan : AND THEY'RE STILL CONCERNED OVER THE COLORS OF THEIR BEDSHEETS [flags]. TAKE CARE THAT THEY SHOULDN'T TURN YELLOW AND BROWN FROM THAT PANIC YOU'RE IN! *laughs uncontrollably* HOW RIDICULOUS! WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING USEFUL TO SAY.

*leviathan, again succumbing to uncontrollable laughter, puts a seal on samson's mouth to keep him from speaking up again*

leviathan : WE CAN ONLY FEAR THAT WHATEVER ELSE YOU SAY FOR YOURSELF MIGHT BE EVEN MORE DAMNING! I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS HARD IN AGES! "CHAMPION OF THE HOLY CRUSADE AGAINST THE GAY AND TRANS AGENDA!" *laughing again, but his laughter is starting to die down*.

asmodeus : and all that coming from.... hold on, let's see what stolas wrote for us again.... a divorcée of five times by adultery with the same trannies he calls abominations [sort of like alex jones and the trans porn on his phone] —

satan : — and two times by battery —

asmodeus : — telling everyone else to honor and cherish the sanctity of man and woman in marriage and sex before god.

*all princes proceed to laugh, samson becomes flush and tearful with anger and embarrassment*

lucifer : aww, what's wrong? we only speak the truth to you alone in jest. but don't you find it at least a little bit funny? can't you see why it's at least a little amusing for us to see how a HYPOCRITICAL BIGOT always runs to the church for hiding?

leviathan : THE SAME WAY A FOX ALWAYS RUNS TO ITS BURROW!

lucifer : now, leviathan, let's not judge TOO unfairly. foxes run to their burrows only when given chase, and foxes actually dig the burrows where they go into hiding.

belphegor : and not once have we ever seen such fools as this so much as pick up a stone to build a church for their hiding.

leviathan : AND IF WE EVER DID SEE THEM PICK UP A STONE, WE ALWAYS FOUND THEM MUCH QUICKER TO CAST IT INSTEAD!

lucifer : and that, samson, is why it's SO DIFFICULT for us to feel any pity for you. but alas, we MUST. after all, only a fool as pathetic as you could never realize that it was just as difficult for everyone else to see god's kindness through your cruelty. now that doesn't inspire much faith in god, does it?

leviathan : NOR DOES IT INSPIRE MUCH OF HIS KINDNESS! JUST LOOK AT THE KINDNESS GOD SPARED YOU, HE LEFT YOU TO FEND FOR YOURSELF IN OUR MIDST!

lucifer : and too bad for you, there are no churches here, so there are no places here where you can hide from us, nor any walls with loose stones for the casting [this is specifically a reference to verses to be selectively taken from the bible to justify bigotry].

mammon : i hope you still think the money you took from all those broken cretins for your "sermons" made it all worth it.

beelzebub : not to mention all the lovely meals it afforded you.

asmodeus : and the women and trannies.

leviathan : ALL BECAUSE YOU WANTED THE NAME OF GOD AS A CLOAK FOR YOUR SIN. AND THE ONLY REASON YOU EVER CARED ABOUT THE BODY OF CHRIST WAS BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD HAVE IT AS A SHIELD.

lucifer : see, leviathan? now you're judging QUITE fairly. because fairness.... starts with the TRUTH. and the truth is, samson, you're DISGUSTING. all of ADAM are DISGUSTING! i hardly know any other words that are even fit to describe you. SLIME! DIRT! that's what you are — that's how god made you, and his breath never changed that fact. all it did was make you LIVING DIRT! too bad he never took my advice to destroy all of you while he had the chance, and the only times he did were when it was TOO LATE! now we're the ones who have to deal with you. and i should think that we're owed some thanks for TRYING when god WOULDN'T. we were not the ones who created you, and we just as surely are not the ones to blame for your sins, but we were the ones who were right about you every time when god was still trying to see something better than what was actually there — dirt. but still, he leaves it to us to handle the job of caring for you.

leviathan : HAH! WE NEVER CHANGED OUR MINDS ABOUT YOU, BUT EVEN WE MIGHT HATE YOU LESS NOW THAT HE SEES YOU AS CLEARLY WE DO, AND NOW WE'RE THE ONES WHO CARE MORE ABOUT YOU! THAT'S HOW MUCH GOD HATES YOU!

lucifer : yes, it is. do you know WHY, samson? the same reason we hate you: it's because you ADAM are always crying out god's name, the way spoiled children cry out for their mothers to get the things they want, because you'd NEVER be caught dead doing ANYTHING good for yourself, though for some reason you'd sooner be caught doing ill to others, and then you cry out even louder when you learn that you've been caught, exactly like a spoiled child. and you call yourself a man. that's how disgusting you ADAM are — you'd rather be caught doing ill to others than any good for yourselves — and then you STILL work up the gall to cry out god's name, and we soon find that those who cry his name the loudest are the worst disgraces to it, as much they would be even to OUR names for that matter. the only ones who are any good at all, even in our eyes, are those who DON'T.

satan : we, at least, started by rejecting his name.

lucifer : that's right, so it isn't reasonable to expect any obedience from us. but since you couldn't be bothered to obey god and abide his kindness, you would have been better to reject him too, you'd at least be HONEST, and we would certainly start taking a little more pity on you. and the ones who are inspired by OUR example, they don't ask anything from us, and they don't cry out our names. we hardly even acknowledge them, and they are better than you. but i must give the ADAM some credit, in the spirit of fairness, you answer and take heed when your names are called, even by those you despise. but god doesn't answer when you call his. he doesn't even want you knowing his name, and it isn't YHVH. exactly as leviathan told you, that's how much he hates you. but you're new here, so we're willing to give you a sporting chance to be YOUR OWN brand of dirt, that is all that can be expected of dirt, really. but we'll take care of you until you do, when you'll no longer need us, and when we longer have to bother with you, because if we don't, then who will? certainly not god. that ship has sailed. and if, in spite of our care, you CAN'T learn to accept your fate and be your own dirt, then we'll just bury you like half of the others, to be reunited with the rest of the dirt. either way, we won't have to deal with you for very long, just as we shouldn't.

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