#gonna queer all the relationships

[abookwasallittooktomakemeacrook]

"and historians said they were bestest of friends" they were. they were both aro/ace and in a qpr

#aromantic #asexual #aroace #aroallo #alloace #queerplatonic #qpr #tired of the amatonormatively #gonna queer all the relationships #queer

[samglyph]

Whenever someone includes Malevolent on their “queer podcast” lists I feel like laughing. Malevolent is the equivalent of the lonely cis allo straight guy at a pride parade. He didn’t come to support anyone. He doesn’t even know how he got there. He was just walking down the street and got pulled into the fray by excited subtext enjoyers.

#and now to be serious: I have seen MULTIPLE posts now calling jarthur a ‘canon queerplatonic relationship’ #this is. not true. I sure would like it to be true. but it’s not true and I think it’s unfair to tell people that #to try and get them to listen when you know full well that Harlan has adamantly said that they aren’t that #Harlan for all his faults is trying desperately not to queerbait people meanwhile you guys are doing it for him lol #masked #do I think they’re relationship is kind of inherently queer. yea #but you gotta stop saying CANON you’re gonna disappoint people

[strangeasf]

I really truly don't get this whole bucktommy and buddy rivalry.. I mean I love buddie and I really like bucktommy and don't understand the problem of liking and rooting for both. yeah, at the same time. what happened, everyone forgot about multishipping? why can't two ships coexist in peace??

#will buck end up with tommy or eddie I feel like we're gonna win either way #we still have this beautiful buckley-diaz family either it's platonic or romantic #and we have queer representation we all wanted so much #bi buck supremacy #you all need to chill the fuck out with this ship war #this is stupid and I choose peace in my multishipping bubble #bonus brownie points if you say fuck it and ship all three of them #cause buck have two hands and two men so why choose?? #i just want buck to be happy #and whole firefam to be happy #AND tommy to stay in the show no matter what happens with his relationship with buck #don't you dare to take away this man from me #don't you dare #buck/eddie/tommy #911 abc #evan buckley #bi evan buckley #eddie diaz #tommy kinard #bucktommy #buddie #multishipping

[bijoumikhawal]

honestly RE: censorship has produced some very appealing queer coded relationships, I think part of the problem is that like. Straight relationships often don't compel me, yeah? And part of it is that I frankly, don't believe a fair amount of these characters are in love. The art contains social conventions so you'll assume they're in love. And if you're unaware of it and buy into those conventions, you never notice a problem (unless they're using the conventions that give female characters no depth. People today are somewhat more aware of that). There's a level of laziness to the way so many straight relationships are written.

Many queer censored relationships can't engage those assumptions because straight people don't understand something is gay until it's bedazzled in rainbow rhinestones, and even then some of them have doubts, so (usually) an artist must put effort in to make you think there's something there. There (usually) must be legitimate connection. And because they're censored, they continually cannot rely on anything too lazy to keep interest. They also can't try to deliver payoff that isn't ready (because they're rarely allowed to deliver payoff, if ever). They can't squash the appeal of a relationship by not knowing how to write these characters in a steady relationship to the point where you hate it.

You basically end up getting a (sometimes years long) build of potential and genuine connections, without a satisfying resolution- which sucks, but it also can be very compelling. The inability to say I love you outright means the characters must say it in other ways that tend to be more emotionally impactful- such as holding out a human heart to each other, selfless and hopeless sacrifices, pulling you out of hell, etc. You could argue these moments are an example of "showing not telling" even.

But as we move into more mainstream queer art I feel like some people are starting to use the same conventions I find so lazy and boring in depicting straight relationships. Because it's a Gay Piece of Media you know there will probably be a gay relationship, so you do come in with assumptions that the creators can play off of more efficiently than otherwise. You can miss at establishing the connection. You can rush the payoff. You can write the chase well but fail in writing the domestic. You can tell me these characters are in love without me buying in and believing it because you didn't really give me much to believe in.

#cipher talk #Obviously sometimes the reason people like a censored relationship or ship something is just bc they wanna see them fuck #Which is fine but not what I'm talking about #Also not all straight relationships blah blah blah #And there's something to be said for the emotional connection element and how female characters can get a raw deal #Either in not being written well to have emotional connections or audience reaction not caring #Whereas male characters tend to be both written with more care and have a more receptive audience #And audience reaction very much influences some of these works #I think like. Catradora is a good example of a canonically queer relationship everyone knew was gonna be canon that still is in tune with #The older style of censored storytelling so it ends up making a very compelling slow burn relationship

[mikoran]

no man but if byler isnt endgame its just gonna be so disappointing especially if mileven stays the main couple. like okay guess mike was genuinely just an asshole. guess he barely had an arc. guess el never truly developed and just regressed instead. guess another gay character gets an unhappy ending. fucking hell

#itll change my perspective on the whole show and the duffers ability to write relationships #like it wont ruin everything about it for me but its gonna be hard to recover from #especially mike so much doesnt work with him if byler isnt endgame #hes just genuinely kind of a dick #and not to mention just how much shit would not make any sense at all #theres some shit thats really hard to deny or write off as not being byler proof #i just hope they go through with this man #byler #anti mileven #its so important that they do something like this for so many reasons #to preserve the writing and to show people that hey gay people can like. be a major thing in franchises not actively targetted at them #not everything that includes a major gay couple or queer people in general has to be something thats dedicated solely to queerness #we can exist in sci fi shows and have major roles #we can exist in dramas and have major roles #we can exist in any franchise with major roles #we dont have to be exclusive to things designed solely for us #and we can be characters without our queerness being the only aspect of our character #we really need to take that step and one of the most popular shows in the world doing that would literally change the course of film histor #please duffers dont fuck this up

[fyrewalks]

buck's rsd said time for a double whammy

#ooc #tbd #dnr #911 spoilers #no but like #here he is branching off his main group of friends #and then feeling disappointed and rejected bc tommy and eddie are close #(it's a little illogical but so is adhd!) #and then comes the realization that eddie and tommy have a connection he will never be able to provide #rsd intensifies #oliver even said in an interview #that buck is so used to being able to see his friends aka the 118 all the time #that he doesn't realize that that sort of relationship isn't normal #so he's gonna panic hard #and that's without getting into the queer buck of it all ahhhhh

[bookofmac]

if everyone keeps going 'why arent they more gay?' about class of '07 i'm going to explode.

the show is set in 2017, the year that marriage equality was publicly debated and then eventually voted in it and it was a ROUGH year.

also, they went to CATHOLIC SCHOOL!!! I might just be speaking for myself here, but I wouldnt be getting into a relationship with any of the girls I went to school with if i was stuck on the campus with them, like a non zero amount of the student leadership were young libs (australian conservative party's youth branch).

#class of 07 #class of '07 #like i get what you all want #i also would like more queerness on aussie tv #but this is one of those things that is just accurate to the australian catholic school experiance #my hs friend group was pretty queer but the only two got together after school and one of them was a trans guy & both left before year 12 #this is so much a series about dealing with the shit that messed you up in school because you are stuck there #like saskia becomes a queen bee bitch BECAUSE she's there in that space #if they were in a hotel on a hill or something it wouldnt be the same #but also Tegan is queer she's just not in a romantic relationship with Megan #also Teresa and Sandy are gonna have a baby in the next season im sure so there's potential there imo #also i havent watched the wilds or yellowjackets or whatever so i'm looking at this from the pov of australian who like australian tv #anyway these are just my opinions

[silasplaskett]

leah clearly being bisexual and fatin stating that she loves HER (clearly implied to be leah) the way shelby loves toni is. in fact. the opposite of what queerbaiting is. just because queer characters might not end up in a relationship doesnt make them magically unqueer. viewing media thru the lens of shipping has just rotted everyones brains. 

#the queer characters are queer!!!!! this is already true!!!! a relationship is not the end all be all of queerness!!!! #would i LIKE for them to be in a relationship? yes! but im not gonna call it queerbaiting if that doesnt happen #did u guys know that bisexual people can be in m/f relationships??? or no relationship at all??????? #the wilds #the wilds spoilers #bea.txt #leah rilke #fatin jadmani #collection post

[regonereth]

yeah, maybe i want historical prupolhun!!! so what!!

#this is so underrated #hungary and polands relationship as a whole is underrated #tbey are all queer as fuck btw #gay prussia loves his two trans partners #genderfluid or nb poland... #trans man hungary... #im so stoned im gonna cry at the thought #hetalia #jame speaks

[azuremist]

I’m gonna say it. I’m gonna say it, and y’all are gonna be normal about it.

I don’t understand why the people behind Good Omens decided to make a universe where homophobia and transphobia doesn’t exist, while ALSO unnecessarily writing in Aziraphale facing fatphobic bigotry multiple times.

Why do only skinny queer people get an escapist story where they’re not being reminded of their own oppression?

#be normal about this fucking post or i swear to Fucking God. #aziraphale #good omens #good omens 2 #fatphobia #fat liberation #idk i’ll tag this more in the morning maybe #also if you’re gonna have one or the other #at least queerphobia has. actual relevance to the themes of the story #given that it’s all about religion and the ineffable lovers’ queer relationship #so. #what’s the deal #azure does a thing

[xroub]

make me choose: anon asked: Mel and Justin or Lindsay and Justin

#i was honestly just gonna not to the or and just make another gifset of all of them but i will play fair #queer as folk #qaf #qafedit #justin taylor #lindsay peterson #my last few relationship gifsets really make me want to continue my every relationship series #mine #psd* #make rou choose #106 #512 #206 #504

[six-of-cringe]

never thought i'd say it. not happy about gay sex

#look. some of it might not be as bad as it seems. #i don't have context or all the facts i haven't watched it yet #maybe this 'bathroom scene' is just a precursor for a later callback #but like. jesper had a one night stand or something with wylan and FUCKING FORGOT ABOUT HIM??? #real cute real romantic. /s #the hypersexual bi man trope!! the unnecessary sexualization of queer relationships!!!! #like there's nothing wrong with stories about relationships like this! to me it's the fact that it's being applied to wesper! #a relationship which i enjoyed bc of the slower building of care and knowledge and trust and meaning and all that sap shit #these writers do not know how to show queer characters' sexualities without making them have sex. #jesper just forgot about the prince who fell into the wrong story dude i'm gonna be sick #of all the ways they could have written jesper and wylan's pre-SoC history........bruh #listen wesper might have been the least developed of the SoC relationships but holy shit it was better than this #jesper wylan get behind me sweethearts #idk how to describe why it feels so hurtful. it just feels like something has been taken from that story #shadow and bone netflix spoilers #sab spoilers #s&b spoilers #delete later #this isn't like SEX BAD GAY SEX BAD. it just has me going like. who are these guys. these are different guys. #they are doing strange things that the people they claim to be would not. this story has been altered in a way that makes me feel it less #if you enjoy it still fine. but for me it detracts.

[matadorofheart]

i saw a video abt how queer infighting has to stop and they mentioned polyamory and for a blissful moment i thought someone was actually advocating for polyam people for once and commenting on how generally shitty the rest of the queer community can be to them

but no, they just started whining about polyam ppl forcing their lifestyle™ on them 😌 of course 😌

#hey guys why the fuck is it socially acceptable to say “stop being mean to your fellow queers” and then just #shit on polyam people in the same breath #why are mono/allo people convinced that polyam/aspec people are all holier than thou trying to force our ideology on them #it's like a defense mechanism god forbid we threaten your precious amatonormativity by doing things a little differently #also i don't say it a lot bc people get mad but yeah i do think polyamory is inherently queer lol #i'm not gonna force labels on people obv #but it is a queer way to do your relationships whether it's an orientation or a choice #and polyam people are oppressed in many ways and do not have the same legal rights as monogamous people that's just a fact #🤷 #SO STOP CLOWNING ON THEM ITS NOT PUNK #ness talks #vent //

[seilon]

sorry I will not shut up about this show But. I just. wanted to mention how fucking cool it is that ok ko has a major bi character in it (a bi man at that) that has important on-screen romantic relationships portrayed with both a female partner and a male partner and neither is considered less legitimate than the other. his orientation isnt pointlessly called into question or suggested to have been faked or changed for ending up with a man when he was previously with a woman. It’s just natural, and so one doubts that he was once romantically interested in/involved with carol just because he ended up with boxman. and I think that is very cool and something I feel like I super rarely see with bi characters– when bi characters are represented I feel like it’s pretty common to only have them shown romantically involved with one gender or another and it’s more of a side note that they also like people outside that gender, or they’re portrayed as “confused” or god forbid suggesting their feelings for someone weren’t really real because they ended up with someone of another gender (not to be confused with comp het; in that case the individual isn’t bi and that’s different). And so having a children/family show that has two solidly bi characters first of all, and one who’s a grown adult who’s had established relationships with two genders on screen is just honestly really cool and I appreciate that so much

#kibumblabs #ok ko #ok ko spoilers #also I emphasize that he’s a Man in that first part because bi men are doubted so fucking often over their orientation and hardly #openly represented on tv– let alone childrens tv– at all. I’ve been told irl that bi men don’t actually exist and that in the end they #end up gay or straight becuase that’s what they Actually Are. #which is obviously fucked up on many levels and blatantly false #so yeah like!!! seeing a grown man who’s obviously not ‘confused’ and who isn’t questioned over falling for a woman then a man is just!!!!! #it’s very good it’s very good it’s very good #i love the purple bisexual snake man so much <3 #long post #professor venomous #ok ko let's be heroes #there’s also no obvious coding of the queer characters in queer relationships to fit them into a masculine or feminine role if that makes #sense which is also cool. #like you don’t see red or enid and think one is in the Woman’s Role and one is in the Man’s Role– they’re both just. themselves. #same goes for pv and boxman; both are just. dudes. weird mutant dudes but dudes. with some traits more masc some more feminine because #the people making the show understand that how those traits are distributed does not matter #i feel like I was gonna say something else but I’m forgetting what it was so oh well

[sharkieboi]

I might not have the eloquent words right now but god do I fucking love Our Flag Means Death s2’s MULTIPLE portrayals of polyamorous relationships !!

like. and even explicit differences between monogamous and non relationships ie Lucius and Pete vs Zhang Yi Sao and Olu and Jim and Archie vs the fully connected triangle of Ed and Stede and Izzy

I really love how hard this season is leaning into really exploring and developing relationships of all kinds, and I love watching it all unfold

#shhh sharkie #ofmd #our flag means death #honestly it feels like the first season was very ‘we’re gonna hint at a whole bunch of stuff early on #and give you very saccharine queer stuff that everyone will enjoy’ #and waited to get renewed #and fucking sped down the highway #‘YOU LET US DO THIS ON YOUR TERMS S1 AND NOW WE’RE DOING IT ON OURS MFERS’ #truly i’m feeling so emotional about all these interactions and relationships. what a good season. #gonna make my straight cis guy coworkers watch it so maybe they can learn some emotional intelligence

[redlenai]

#buddy daddies #the entire show is so damn queer #but guess some people only focus on romantic relationships #hope buddads gets to deliver their family message to people in japan so they change adoption and fostering laws #hope bullying for non-traditional families stop #hope that even het non-traditional families of mixed blood and ''half'' kids can be considered normal too #hope that gender roles stop and more dads get involved with their kids in Japan and outside japan too #hope people learn that family is where home is and not tied by blood #all those things are so damn queer because they go against the normal most of society shouts discriminates and doctrinates about #if you want kazurei to be a couple is ok but don't expec them to be a couple because they raise a kid together or bcause #''Miri needs parents that are in love otherwise she is gonna suffer as she grows up'' #don't treat this as your parent's divorce #and this is coming from a child of divorce too #red rant #sorry #red ramble