I love how in The Hobbit both Bilbo and Gollum think they've told the easiest riddle ever that even a toddler could solve and they're going to lose the riddle game but they don't realize that one has been underground for over a hundred years and doesn't remember eggs very well or that one doesn't fish and therefore has no idea what "mail never clinking" would refer to.
Gollum being like, "He'll get the fish one, everyone knows about fish."
Bilbo:
(and vice versa with Gollum and the eggs and the sun)
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What has roots that nobody sees,
Is taller than trees,
Up, up it goes,
And yet never grows?
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My life is a constant entrapment of tunnels
Which tangle and wind and beguile
And regardless of where I may tumble or funnel
I wonder what’s really worthwhile
Sometimes it can seem like a nightmarish dream
And I’m falling with nothing to hold
Sometimes I get flustered and beaten and blistered
Abandoned outside in the cold
uh I’m not sure what this is but it flows really well so
Drop the chorus next
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tw// cannibalism
Hello random debate me and my friends are having and was wondering if perhaps you would give an opinion: is Gollum a cannibal?
Because he eats goblins, right, but are they close enough to hobbits to be consideeed cannibalism? Second thing of note is of course his threat to eat Bilbo, implying that he would eat Hobbits (making him an aspiring cannibal) or he has eaten a Hobbit before and is therefore definitely a cannibal
I think so, yes.
Gandalf says, speaking of Gollum in FotR:
The Woodmen said that there was some new terror abroad, a ghost that drank blood. It climbed trees to find nests; it crept into holes to find the young; it slipped through windows to find cradles.
Of course, that's Gandalf reporting a rumor, so not exactly ironclad evidence, but it tracks with how we know Gollum behaves, so I tend to believe it.
Now, these are men's cradles, not hobbits's, but Tolkien says hobbits are closer kin to men than elves or dwarves, so I think it would count as cannibalism, or at least something very close to it. At any rate, I don't think, if Gollum is eating babies and looking forward to eating Bilbo, that he would particularly worry about eating hobbits in general - I think that he doesn't is a simple matter of opportunity. Places where hobbits live tend to have plenty of food and animals, so even if Gollum went to those regions, he'd probably have easier prey than hobbits. But would he have eaten Bilbo if he'd managed to kill him? I have no doubt that he would have, yeah.
I'll also say, though you didn't ask, that "monster that threatens to eat the hero" is a bedtime story staple, and Gollum is a bedtime story monster when Tolkien first writes him. But then when he writes LotR and doubles down on Gollum eating human flesh in a book for adults, suddenly that sounds so much more gruesome and creepy. I've always found that fascinating. I react to Gollum threatening to eat my beloved Bilbo in an "Oh, a fun, nerve-wrecking adventure!" way but I am genuinely creeped out and alarmed by him allegedly eating babies I don't even know. I find that a pretty interesting thing about me as a reader.
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This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays kings, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
The Hobbit: Riddles in the dark
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This thing all things devours;
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays kings, ruins town,
And beats high mountains down.
"The Hobbit" - J. R. R. Tolkien
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This thing all thing devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
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