#fatphobia mention

[keplercryptids]

i don't actually give a fuck whether fatness is an indicator of health because health shouldn't indicate a moral high ground. being healthy isn't some pinnacle of human achievement, it's not morally superior. and being unhealthy isn't a moral failing and shouldn't mean you're less worthy of kindness, justice, and a good life. signed, a chronically ill person who will never be "healthy" at any weight.

#fatphobia mention #ableism

[secondbeatsongs]

looking for a reference for something, and all the stock photo names are like "fat man ugly weight need diet unhealthy eating problem" and I'm just sitting here like. god. this is the hottest picture I've seen all week

#personal #fatphobia mention #I guess? #I'm joining the war on fatness on the side of the fat #there are all these ''dieting''-themed pictures of dudes squishing their stomach fat around and like #dude #is that supposed to be unattractive? #because if so it's failing

[marzipanandminutiae]

she's never going to read this, but it's still interesting

so the person with the extremely cold corset takes last night has now decided that dress history folks are straight-up lying about the purpose of corsets. because we just love them so much, I guess?

she found this ad:

and therefore knows corsets were Totally About Waist Reduction First And Foremost, Always And Forever, Amen

I have. some thoughts.

the main one being that nobody claimed corsets were never used to waist-train back then

the secondary one being that many ads for "form-reducing corsets," at least the ones that I found, make a distinction between "normal" corsets and their product:

It's a specialty product, not what the average woman is wearing on a daily basis. Is its existence messed up? Yes! But nobody has been disputing that pressure on women to look a certain way, and fatphobia, are awful. The issue in question is: was the primary function of an average (in this case Victorian/Edwardian) corset waist reduction? It seems to me that the ad supplied- again, for a specialty garment that was not seen as an ordinary corset -does not prove OP's point.

so let's look at some ordinary corset ads, shall we?

(don't freak out too much about the "baby/child corsets"- I've worked with extant examples many times, and they're just lightly stiffened vests. you couldn't lace a kid down in them if you tried- not that you should, obviously)

(Pliability, elasticity, comfort- but no mention of waist reduction as a selling point)

(this one is an unusual design, but I'm including it because it mentions support- and specifically breast support -not once, but twice. It also instructs ladies to measure their waists OUTSIDE their clothing- which will result in a larger measure even than we commonly use for custom corsets nowadays. note that a 2" lacing gap was common, per a corsetiere quoted in Valerie Steele's The Corset: A Cultural History)

(Flexibility and comfort, yet again.)

(Rather a ridiculous one, including the implication that you need an elegant corset to snare a husband and therefore economic security and love, but the bottom left text says "What an improvement the Madam Warren corset. And how comfortable.")

so we've clearly got comfort, support, and ease of movement at the forefront of the average consumer's mind, for so many ads to mention such thing. a number also don't have much text at all:

(The Celebrated EEE is my hypothetical burlesque name, but I digress.)

of the first twenty random ads that come up when I do an image search for "corset advertisement," eleven mention health and/or comfort, and only one directly mentions waist reduction- while advertising, again, a separate specialty "reducing" corset.

am I saying it never happened? absolutely not. I have NEVER been saying that. tightlacing did happen. obviously reducing corsets existed. I would not deny any of this

am I saying that, clearly, support and comfort were thought so high on the average corset-wearer's priority list that manufacturers played to those attributes more than waist reduction when constructing/advertising corsets, implying that they are NOT, in fact, the same thing as a Kim K waist cincher? yes

(file under: things I cannot believe I have to fucking say, and yet here we are)

#corsets #long post #fatphobia mention #body issues tw #corset discourse #genuinely can't fathom how 'are historical corsets just as-seen-on-TV waist trainers' is a real question here

[ihaventsleptinweekz]

okay. hot take. Polite criticism. Nuanced discussion. I am a little unsettled that the only fat people in the hellaverse are either villains or ppl we're clearly meant to dislike.

Like we have Mimzy who we are clearly meant to think is a leech on Alastors power. We have Adam who is a misogynistic villain. Who also gets a random and weird dig about his weight mid-fight scene. And we have mammon the literal sin of greed.

Look I love Hazbin hotel and Helluva Boss as much as anyone in the Fandom but I can not?? Be the only one bothered by this?

#DISCLAIMER: THIS POST IS A RESPECTFUL CRITICISM OF THE SHOW- NOT MEANT TO ATTACK ANYONE SPECIFICALLY #Sorry for the rant but everyone else has a matchstick waist and the literal ONLY normally sized / fat characters are. Villains. #hazbin hotel #helluva boss #fatphobia mention

[theotherhappyplace]

i hate fatphobia

i've been losing a lot of weight cause im a SICK PERSSOOON but it's not making me any less radical in defense of fat people and i know one of these days im gonna be thin enough someone thinks i'll side with them against fat people and i'll

SCREAM THEIR HEAD CLEAN OFF

fool! I AM A SLEEPER AGENT! *flings myself upon them*

NEWLY POINTY ELBOWS, NOW IS THE TIME TO JAB.

#fatphobia mention #fat liberation #fat girl power #i will defend your honor TO THE DEATH #big or small i'm here to fight #being sick sucks

[brettdoesdiscourse]

Part of the reason fatphobia is so dangerous is because people don't see it as systematic oppression. Even if people think fatphobia is bad, they just say "oh you should be body positive" or "it's bad to be mean to someone about their appearances."

As though fat people don't literally die every day due to systematic fatphobia. As though society isn't literally designed to be inaccessible for fat people. As though fat people aren't looked at as subhuman due to their weight. As though being fat doesn't cause you to not be taken seriously by medical professionals and thus lead to you not getting the treatment you need.

#fatphobia #fatphobia tw #fatphobia mention #social discourse #discourse #brett does discourse

[transtalesofdoom]

The Egg Years and being Cis-Adjacent

I originally made this blog to talk about my new and exciting trans experience, so let's go do that. Long post, obviously and I just figured out how to do the Keep Reading thing

I didn't have any inherent dysphoria growing up, I was just a bit of a not-like-other-girls tomboy. Jeans were comfier than dresses, boobs and bras were sooo inconvenient, make up just meant more effort. Books and video games were more fun than going out to party. I wasn't good at dancing anyway. And don't even get me started on shaving your legs.

It became obvious to me that I wasn't strictly cis pretty much as soon as I learned that gender wasn't binary. It was common sense, really. If gender is a spectrum, very few people would actually find themselves on the very end of either side. So most people were just close enough to either end of the spectrum to consider themselves cis. Including myself.

As my understanding of gender grew, it became more and more ridiculous to assume anyone was 100% cis. There's always some criterion you don't fully meet. Of course, people could still use and identify with the label of cis, clearly there was some sort of leeway. But calling myself cis started to feel wrong. It felt like I was ignoring the very nature of gender as a vast spectrum by picking a label rooted in the binary. I was cis, but in a queer way. I started calling myself cis-adjacent when talking to other queer people.

I never had a "problem" with my assigned gender at birth, outside of the patriarchy and sexism and periods, but those weren't trans reasons to resent being a woman. Being a woman suited me well enough. I wouldn't have cared if I wasn't, if I woke up one day without boobs, I'd just go on and fit into shirts much more easily. I considered "gender-apathetic" as a label, but ultimately it felt like too much hassle for something I was indifferent about.

Really, that was what it came down to. I was close enough to being cis, I didn't have any internal problems with calling myself a woman or living as one. Sure, there probably was something more accurate for me out there, but I knew about the struggles trans people faced. A good friend of mine had come out as trans and started his transition. I was happy for him, but I also got to see the difficulties it brought to update paperwork and book appointments and constantly emailing professors about your new name and pronouns. Not to mention the whole coming out to family thing. Or transphobia. There wasn't enough suffering in me to submit myself to this much effort and misery. Or force everyone in my life to learn a new set of pronouns and name for me, irrevocably changing every single relationship I had in the process. I didn't even want to be a man anyway. Just look a little more like one.

And I could easily present pretty masculine without transitioning. I only wore pants anyway. And hoodies were super comfy. I cut my hair short more than once. I considered buying a binder, just to see what that would do for me, but every time I tried looking into it, I just got overwhelmed and, like I said, there wasn't enough suffering to justify spending 50 bucks and at least one extensive research session on it. Ironically enough, during my last year as cis-adjacent, I finally reconnected with a part of my femininity and wore dresses to special occasions again.

However, a new problem had found my body: The unstoppable passage of time. I wasn't a perky teenager anymore. My body gained weight, my boobs succumbed to gravity, and I had very little in common with what was considered a beautiful woman. Even a beautiful butch woman didn't look like me. No one beautiful looked like me, really. I told myself that I had a lot of internalized misogyny and fatphobia to unlearn. That the reason I started disliking my reflection was social conditioning. I was right about that, of course. But there was more to it that I, in my self-righteous blaming of society, didn't acknowledge.

Until the last full moon night of 2023, when my mirror reflected a ghost back at me.

#to be continued #dysphoria mention #dysmorphia mention #fatphobia mention #crimes against the gender convention #backstory #origin story #genderqueer #trans #transgender #lgbtq #queer #long post #trans experience #trans rights #trans wrongs #nonbinary #enby #nb #agender #gnc #gender apathetic

[the-worm-has-turned]

I don’t really go here, but I was randomly scrolling through the bowuigi tag today and I would like to wish every artist that draws Bowser (both original form and any version of humanised) as skinny a very Die In A Fire

#bowuigi #bowser #mario bros #mario movie #luigi mario #fatphobia #fatphobia in fandom #fatphobia mention #fandom problems #wormie talks

[the-owl-house-takes]

this show is unbelievably racist and fatphobic holy shit. willow is meant to be plus-size and she's smaller than steven universe at his thinnest. and that's before the epilogue when she's no fatter than the rest of the main characters. outside of maybe one of willow's dads no one is allowed to have a belly. they all have to have tapered waists for some reason. and then you have the fact that the crew just flat out doesn't care about gus. he doesn't even have a confirmed sexuality. the crew didn't even bother to make him more than a studio mandate. speaking of which, i know people will be like "but disney could only let them get away with so much!" disney wasn't stopping them from writing good fat characters or characters of color let's be real. disney shows from the 2000s were less racist and fatphobic because even if these characters were stereotypes, they were still there getting focus. the crew just didn't even try.

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#the owl house #toh #toh critical #racism mention #fatphobia mention #Gus porter #Willow park

[transjudas]

one thing i will say.

please please to anyone who might go to any dunes shows or meet frank any other way

do not, “jokingly” or otherwise tell him about the froob thing/froob friday

i know people use it here in a positive, supporting way. i know no harm is meant in it here. but the reality is that so many guys have had “man boobs” thrown around to make fun of their weight. and frank has had his share of randos on the internet asking invasive and rude questions about his weight.

we don’t know him. i think it’s fine to post about it here (as a general statement. if someone told me it made them uncomfortable i’d absolutely reevaluate or at least tag things idk humans are complex!!)

but just. as usual. when we meet frank and any of the guys (and fuckin… anyone ever at all) be chill and normal about it. 🖤

#frank iero #fatphobia mention #body shaming mention

[aiiizawa]

Tbh I have no sympathy for formerly fat thin people who weaponize their newfound thinness against other fat people like you know what we went through and now you decide to perpetuate it? I don’t give a fuuuuck how bad your body image is

#fatphobia mention #i guess idk ask to tag

[blimbo-buddy]

I think the fandom really needs to start tackling the fatphobia problem, both within the books and within the fandom itself. The narrative never questions the blatant hatred towards fat characters because it's always the Clan cats making those comments, and the Clan cats always need to be right in the eyes of the authors, they are never wrong about anything

Characters will say some shit like "Oh no don't become a Kittypet, you'll becomes LAZY and FAT and STUPID and FAT, a fate that is CLEARLY worse than death". This shit is never acknowledged as being wrong. Bumble, as we know, is specifically bullied for her weight by the quote on quote "Good Guys", not a scene goes by where GreyWing DOESN'T have some off-hand thought about her weight

Also I've said this a million times, but I think it's important to start portraying plus-sized characters properly when drawing them. Some of them I understand to an extent, it's often forgotten that Barley or GooseFeather are canonically fat. But at that point you just sorta fix it up, y'know

#blimbo rambles #wc #fatphobia tw #fatphobia mention

[mywingsareonwheels]

Hello, here is your reminder that bigotry is always wrong, even when directed to a member of a marginalised group who is:-

extremely personally powerful

an utter shithead

literally committing war crimes

And if part of you's going "but but surely it's okay if I direct it towards..." [insert horrifying world leader or far right arsehole here] No, no it isn't.

Because other members of that marginalised group can see you. Because you're strengthening the power and validity of that bigotry and making it more acceptable. Because you're seeing someone behave evilly, and you're instinctively reaching for the part of them that is marginalised to attack.

I made a list here of some of the people I'm particularly talking about, but I'm frankly too tired, so I deleted it. And in any case, do I need to? Islamophobia is always wrong; antisemitism is always wrong; racism of all kinds is always wrong; ableism (inc. mental health ableism) is always wrong; misogyny, fatphobia, queerphobia, transphobia, ageism... Whatever the circumstances, whoever the individual. Always wrong. Always.

No matter how gross and appalling the individual. You don't get to direct bigotry towards them.

Pick them up on who they are and what they do. Gods know there's more than enough to attack.

#racism mention #antisemitism mention #islamophobia mention #ableism mention #misogyny mention #fatphobia mention #queerphobia mention #transphobia mention #ageism mention

[marzipanandminutiae]

Regarding the anon who says Victorian literature needs more fat characters: do you happen to know how many fictional characters’ size is established? Do we KNOW that say Beth or Jo March wasn’t fat? (Not counting illustrations: I mean in the text itself.) I always pictured Georgiana Darcy as fat, but she’s not Victorian.

I forgot that anon. But you're right that the Victorian body ideal was a bit to one side of our current one.

Meg March is described as "plump" in Little Women, as is Diana Barry in Anne of Green Gables; both of them are supposed to be very pretty. And outside the world of literature, I've seldom seen a French fashion doll- meant to represent pretty little girls or beautiful ladies -without a little molded double-chin.

Few fictional heroines from that era are meant to be very fat- don't get me wrong; the Victorians definitely did have some toxic body standards and notions about women larger than those standards preferred (see also: Amy Lowell getting derisively called a "hippo-poetess") -but. There are several for whom it's a decided miscasting to let stick-thin Hollywood stars play them.

#ask #just-browsing-8675309 #victorian #classic literature #beauty standards #fatphobia mention

[crustgremlin]

Fatphobes absolutely fucking infuriate me

Like they look at somebody with a body type like mine and go "wow! That is a healthy person" purely based on the fact I'm thin

I'm underweight and have been my entire adult life which puts me at significant risk for bone fractures and osteoporosis, I drink heavily, I smoke, I chug energy drinks far beyond the recommended amount. I am far from healthy

I can fucking promise you there are thousands of people triple my weight who are a LOT healthier than me

You cannot claim that the reason you're shitty to fat people is because it's "unhealthy" when it's very clearly not actually health you're concerned about

#fatphobia #fatphobia mention

[cjoatprehn]

Happy Escapril! I hope everyone’s having a good day so far. I’m dropping my first poem with @adventurerswritingguild second prompt from their list! Day two is “The Internet.” I really channeled this song for inspiration. It won’t read the same, the message is ultimately what I’m going for here.

Song Playing:

Here’s my poem with Alt Text provided. I hope you enjoy.

Oh snap! I maxed out tumblr tags for the first time! That’s a new record. 30 max. Huh. Good to know.

Update with Spoken Word

[#escapril Spoken Word] “A 25 year old Codger’s Cloud Rant” by CJOAT for AWG Shoutout @boburnham

It is April 10. I have another update. It took awhile. I have been getting worsening nightmares as of recent. So I haven’t been sleeping well. Rather at all.

That talk is not for this post.

I made a graphic for “A 25 Year Old Codger’s Cloud Rant.” I made it cyber themed based on the internet. It was hard to make due to the effect on my eyes but…this is an eyestrain warning. Be warned, as I cannot add the eyestrain tag when there’s 30 already.

I hope everyone has a good day, whenever you see this. You can do this. I’m proud of you.

#escapril #the internet #poetry #rainy day today #inside #25 Year old #codger #cloud rants #algorithm #alice in wonderland #change #adapt or die #internet safety #tiktok #president #blues clues #fatphobia mention #predatory advertising #betterhelp #ethics #generations #mother nature #Humanity #Family business #homophobia mention #skittles squad #hey ya #sh mention #astrology #economy