Tumgik
#christian antisemitism tw
Note
your post regarding christians learning hebrew made me consider - i'm anishinaabe (ojibwe or chippewa or native american or however you call it) and so i very much hope this does not derail you and is instead only the shared experience i mean it to be - it reminds me of how white people and the descendants of colonizers will mystify & then appropriate native medicine and mythology, our art, languages, and cultures, because they think it has secret ancient magic powers, and that everybody who actually practices that medicine or speaks that language is dead and gone, and that indigenous people are ancient history. when we are still alive and around and speaking those languages and practicing that medicine today. and the only reason we would even be all dead and gone anyways is if the colonizers who now appropriate our culture had succeeded in their plan to wipe us out!! anyways that's just a thought, like i said, i hope this only comes across as solidarity of some sort, i read your post and really felt i related to the experience!
oh this isn't a derailment at all!!! something i've noticed a lot but feel like i don't know enough about to be eloquent with it is the similarities between a lot of indigenous cultures and jewish cultures. idk it's super cool. shoutout to Really Fucking Old cultures and traditions surviving through and despite everything
there was a celebration for 40 years of democracy here in argentina at la plaza de mayo on saturday. lots of argentinian flags everywhere, big concert stage set up, the works. my friend and i went to an encampment on the casa rosada side that i had noticed a few times before. they had hand-painted signs talking about how they're from an indigenous self-advocacy group that has been trying to get an audience with the president for two years and three months. to support their continued stay on la plaza, they had a shop of homemade materials like bags, scarves, baskets, and more. i ended up buying gifts for my siblings, a gorgeous rainbow scarf with designs the man was telling me had all unique meanings and symbolisms in mapuche culture, and a handmade necklace of the tree of life. i told him that being jewish i'm always on the lookout for more scarves i can use to cover my head, and he told me he hopes this will serve me well (it has, i'm in love with it already). when he told me about the tree of life necklace, i told him judaism has similar symbolism, called etz hayim. he thanked me for teaching him the term
i don't know if that was a particularly impactful exchange for him, but there was some sort of solidarity i immediately felt, like our fights are intertwined (as are all our fights but you know what i mean). you put at least some reasons why that solidarity exists here into words. we are parts of cultures that have faced and are still facing attempted genocide after attempted genocide, and yet we are still here, embodying our people and not backing down. as people try to relegate us to some mystical past, we are vocal and fight back. solidarity to you anon, ily and i wish you the best. please feel free to talk to me more about this
i've reached out to the indigenous organizers currently camping out in front of la casa rosada but as of writing this i haven't gotten a response. the website hasn't been updated in a bit, but i'll add what information i have so that more people can learn about this fight in argentina (i'm realizing as i add this stuff that almost everything is in spanish lmao. i'm going to reblog this with the photos of their signs and translations of each. if your browser doesn't automatically translate these links please lmk and i'd be happy to help out anybody interested in learning more)
information about the org:
a story about a previous protest:
a story about the current encampment:
204 notes · View notes
Text
One thing gentiles need to understand about antisemitism is how ubiquitous it is. Whenever you see conservatives alluding to a mysterious group controlling everything from the shadows, there’s a decent chance they mean Jews. Especially public figures. When tucker carlson talks about the nefarious liberal elite, a decent chunk of his audience hears that as “Jews.” The fact that Christians get vacation days for their major holidays but Jews and other religious minorities do not. Whenever god is mentioned in politics or patriotic rants, that is the Christian god, and any other interpretation will be met with hostility. “Judeo-christian values” is something they say just to sound less overtly like Christian nationalists. So many celebrities behind huge cultural impacts are violently antisemitic. Antisemitism is everywhere and usually only noticed by Jews.
11K notes · View notes
fromgoy2joy · 4 months
Text
i get so angered when ex christians take stories from the "Old Testament' share them without context and say "how can this be a loving G-D?! Checkmate!' When what they should have vexations with is the conditional salvation of the New Testament, not the tales of the Jewish people.
Also, what you were taught about New Testament G-D vs the Old Testament G-D is highly dependent on the christian belief that Jesus redeemed the world. Where through supersessionism teachings, old G-D was a big old meanie and now He's nice and fluffy for us Christians who've accepted him. By mindlessly reiterating this point, you contribute to virile antisemitism, delegitimize the relationship Jewish people have with Hashem, by shaping this around yourself and your own angst.
I say this as a person who no longer practices christianity and whose entire viewpoint collapsed the day I realized I had no faith in the church- deconstruct your faith in a way relevant to the structure you grew up with. Not what you see as witty one liners and in the ridicule of religious texts that belong to a 5,000 year old tribe.
(Heavily inspired by a convo with @daughterofstories. )
233 notes · View notes
fdelopera · 6 months
Note
I’m Christian but want to challenge what I’ve been taught after seeing your posts about the Old Testament having cut up the Torah to fit a different narrative. Today I was taught that the Hebrew word Elohim is the noun for God as plural and therefore evidence of the holy Trinity and Jesus & Holy Spirit been there at creation. Is that what the word Elohim actually means? Because I don’t want to be party to the Jewish faith, language and culture being butchered by blindly trusting what I was told
Hi Anon.
NOPE! The reason G-d is sometimes called Elohim in the Tanakh is because during the First Temple period (circa 1000 – 587 BCE), many of the ancestors of the Jewish people in the Northern and Southern Kingdoms practiced polytheism.
(A reminder that the Tanakh is the Hebrew bible, and is NOT the same as the “Old Testament” in Christian bibles. Tanakh is an acronym, and stands for Torah [Instruction], Nevi’im [Prophets], Ketuvim [Writings].)
Elohim is the plural form of Eloah (G-d), and these are some of the names of G-d in Judaism. Elohim literally means “Gods” (plural).
El was the head G-d of the Northern Kingdom’s pantheon, and the Southern Kingdom of Judah incorporated El into their worship as one of the many names of G-d.
The name Elohim is a vestige of that polytheistic past.
Judaism transitioned from monolatry (worshiping one G-d without denying the existence of others) to true monotheism in the years during and directly after the Babylonian exile (597 – 538 BCE). That is largely when the Torah was edited into the form that we have today. In order to fight back against assimilation into polytheistic Babylonian society, the Jews who were held captive in Babylon consolidated all gods into one G-d. Shema Yisrael Adonai eloheinu Adonai ehad. “Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.”
So Elohim being a plural word for “Gods” has absolutely nothing to do with the idea of the Holy Trinity in Christianity.
Especially because Christians are monotheists. My understanding of the Holy Trinity (please forgive me if this is incorrect) is that Christians believe that the Holy Trinity is three persons in one Godhead. Certainly, the Holy Trinity is not “three Gods” — that would be blasphemy.
(My sincere apologies to the Catholics who just read this last sentence and involuntarily cringed about the Protestants who’ve said this. I’m so sorry! I’m just trying to show that it’s a fallacy to say that the Holy Trinity somehow comes from “Elohim.”)
But there's something else here, too. Something that as a Jew, makes me uneasy about the people who are telling you these things about Elohim and the Holy Trinity.
Suggesting that Christian beliefs like the Holy Trinity can somehow be "found" in the Tanakh is antisemitic.
This is part of “supersession theory.” This antisemitic theory suggests that Christianity is somehow the "true successor" to Second Temple Judaism, which is false.
Modern Rabbinic Judaism is the true successor to Second Temple Judaism. Period.
Christianity began as an apocalyptic Jewish mystery cult in the 1st century CE, in reaction to Roman rule. One of the tactics that the Romans used to subdue the people they ruled over was a “divide and conquer” strategy, which sowed division and factionalization in the population. The Romans knew that it was easier to control a country from the outside if the people inside were at each other’s throats.
Jesus led one of many breakaway Jewish sects at the time. The Jewish people of Qumran (possibly Essenes), whose Tanakh was the “Dead Sea Scrolls,” were another sect.
Please remember that the Tanakh was compiled in the form that we have today over 500 years before Jesus lived. Some of the texts in the Tanakh were passed down orally for maybe a thousand years before that, and texts like the Song of Deborah in the Book of Judges (in the Tanakh, that’s in the Nevi’im) were first written down in Archaic Biblical Hebrew during the First Temple Period.
There is absolutely nothing of Jesus or Christianity in the Tanakh, and there is nothing in the Tanakh that in any way predicts Christianity.
Also, Christians shouldn’t use Judaism in any way to try to “legitimize” Christianity. Christianity was an offshoot of 1st century Judaism, which then incorporated a lot of Roman Pagan influence. It is its own valid religion, in all its forms and denominations.
But trying to use the Hebrew bible to give extra credence to ideas like the Holy Trinity is antisemitic.
It is a tactic used by Christian sects that want to delegitimize Judaism as a religion by claiming that Christianity was somehow “planted” in the Tanakh over 2500 years ago.
This line of thinking has led Christians to mass murder Jews in wave after wave of antisemitic violence over the last nearly 2000 years, because our continued existence as Jews challenges the notion that Christians are the “true” successors of Temple Judaism.
Again, the only successor of Temple Judaism is Rabbinic Judaism, aka Modern Judaism.
This line of thinking has also gotten Christians to force Jews to convert en masse throughout the ages. If Christians can get Jews to all convert to Christianity, then they don’t have to deal with the existential challenge to this core misapprehension about the “true” successor to Temple Judaism.
And even today, many Christians still believe that they should try to force Jews to “bend the knee” to Jesus. When I was a young teenager, a preacher who was a parent at the school I went to got me and two other Jewish students to get in his car after a field trip. After he had trapped us in his car, he spent the next two hours trying to get us to convert to Christianity. It was later explained to me that some Christians believe they get extra “points” for converting Jews. And I’m sure he viewed this act of religious and spiritual violence as something he could brag about to his congregation on Sunday.
Trying to get Jews to convert is antisemitic and misguided, and it ignores all the rich and beautiful history of Jewish practice.
We Jews in diaspora in America and Europe have a forced immersion in Christian culture. It is everywhere around us, so we learn a lot about Christianity through osmosis. Many Jews also study early Christianity because Christianity exists as a separate religion within our Jewish history.
But I don’t see a lot of Christians studying Jewish history. Even though studying Jewish history would give you a wealth of understanding and context for your own religious traditions.
So, all of this is to say, I encourage you to study Jewish history and Jewish religious practice. Without an understanding of the thousands of years of Jewish history, it is easy to completely misinterpret the Christian bible, not to mention the Hebrew bible as well.
249 notes · View notes
itsheckinwes · 1 year
Text
I've got a question I need a Jewish perspective on. Is the biblical story about Jesus cursing the fig tree antisemitic? I've seen some people claim that it's against israel and not necessarily Jewish people specifically but I haven't come across any Jewish sources.
Shout out to the post I saw somewhere in response to wizard blood libel game being antisemitic teaching me the connection between figs and Judaism. Never would have thought there was any meaning to the cursing of the fig tree otherwise.
Also is the bit about Jesus "cleansing the temple" of merchants playing into antisemitic stereotypes too?
Non Jewish people reblog please!
470 notes · View notes
agrebel18 · 9 months
Text
some atheists will claim that they support all minority religions that are separate from Christianity UNTIL someone from said minority simply jokes about atheists or calls them out for saying disgusting antisemetic/islamphobic/etc claims and then suddenly go “actually all religions should be banned, it’s a
mental illness😡😡😡”
82 notes · View notes
Text
I desperately need people to understand that Orthodox Jews having a lot of kids is very different from Fundamentalist Christians having kids. Fundamentalist Christians have a lot of kids because they want to raise a Christian army. Orthodox Jews have a lot of kids because of a thousands-of-years-old extinction anxiety rooted in history.
Jews make up less than 1% of the global population, and continuous genocides and ethnic cleansings have threatened our existence. The global Jewish population still hasn't recovered from the Holocaust, and we still haven't recovered from so many genocides. There's a reason we still talk about the Ten Lost Tribes- the trauma of so many of our people being stolen from us.
I've seen people mock people who genuinely *do* want a lot of kids, as if every one of them is lost and brainwashed. There are modern, progressive people who really *do* want to have lots of kids, even if it means being pregnant multiple times, because the Jewish population is *tiny*, and our existence is always threatened.
There's a common saying that sprung up after the Holocaust - "Six kids for the six million".
Don't talk about every person wanting lots of kids being "brainwashed" until you understand the deep desperation Jewish parents face to not disappear off the face of the earth. Until you understand the trauma of losing so so many of your people, and desperately not wanting your people and culture to be lost forever.
926 notes · View notes
apostatement · 5 months
Text
I think about my dad a lot these days.
Like many mormons, he believes that in order for Second Coming of Christ to begin the gathering of Judah must commence. He believes that the Mormon church must proselytize in Israel and build a temple in Israel with a throne. This is church doctrine. I believed this shit until I was like 16.
The Mormon Church is not neutral about the state of Israel. They are antisemitic. They are Zionists for their own ends.
When I see all these Americans supporting Israel all I can hear is my father, my ward bishop, my Sunday school teacher. They believe any atrocity is justified if it is enacted for God. My dad has a fucking doctorate degree.
My dad and people like him have poisoned this country. When you see the US and Canada support this genocide remember the Christian Right.
47 notes · View notes
lt-cmdr-titties · 4 months
Note
A bit of a hot take, perhaps- have you considered that people in the ST fandom who draw K/S in Christmas sweaters AREN’T being deliberately antisemitic? Or, have you considered phrasing this in a different way might be less… abrasive?
homie i've been cultivating my pleas for the fandom to stop fucking goywashing these characters to make them as palatable as possible to the goyische eye for literal years, and they continue to be ignored and pushed to the side. i'm TIRED. i'm tired of people ignoring the very jewish origins of these characters and their actors. i'm tired of it being a microcosm of the goywashing that i experience in my everyday life personally every fucking day. it doesn't matter if it's intentionally antisemitic or not, it's still fucking antisemitic either way
i'm not going to apologize for my jewish rage and hurt not being palatable to you. i'm done being palatable
18 notes · View notes
Text
there's this christian here that told me i'm "wrong" about judaism bc i said it's very common for jews to cross dress and get super drunk for purim. he was like "maybe it's common in your community but i disagree that it happens as a whole" and "you can disagree with me if you want" and all that. like what the FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU "DISAGREE" THIS IS FACT THIS IS DOCUMENTED, EASILY VERIFIABLE FACT
and then he said "oh but it's against mosaic law to get drunk" and i told him judaism doesn't base its laws on mosaic law, it's based on the talmud. and he went "there are many books that judaism's laws are based on" and just oh my GOD WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKR YOURE AN EXPERT ON THIS WHEN YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCKING TALMUD IS!!!!! god i HATE CHRISTIANS LIKE THIS OH MY GOD
174 notes · View notes
dougielombax · 5 months
Text
Evangelical Christian Zionism is a putrid apocalypse worshipping antisemitic death cult.
(This is mostly true for Christian Zionism in general)
Plus they don’t give a shit about actual Middle Eastern Christians.
(Arab Christians, Assyrians, Armenians, Maronites, Coptic people)
They never did!
And they never will.
And they certainly don’t give a shit about Jews either. Like I said it’s an antisemitic apocalypse worshipping death cult.
19 notes · View notes
maryellencarter · 2 months
Text
It occurs to me that many of the people considering Not Voting specifically because the Biden administration is supporting Israel, may not be aware of what the alternative would mean.
I was raised in what is now Trumper culture. That culture's attitude toward Israel vs Palestine is as follows, directly quoted as much as possible from the actual people I grew up around:
"Islam should not exist. There will never be peace in the Middle East as long as Muslims exist, because Abraham did a bad thing by fathering Ishmael instead of trusting God until Isaac came along. The Jews have a right to the Holy Land in perpetuity and should all go there, not bother us, and also convert to Christianity. Wiping out all the non-Jews in the area is probably necessary to make that happen, so this is a great first step!"
So uhhhhh. Even if you're considering yourself a one-issue voter about Palestine, which is your right, you can vote on whatever basis you decide is important to you...
...the non-Biden option is going to be *significantly fucking worse*
13 notes · View notes
fromgoy2joy · 1 month
Text
My therapist - your parents don’t know the real Jesus, who overturned the tables of the merchants in the temple-
Me- ohh uh , Jewish people interpret that as him being awful, because you kind of needed to go get food after a long day of travel and then sacrifices for your temple visit.
My therapist - how could Jesus be disrespectful in the temple? He was Jewish!?
Me- well Jewish people can be assholes too..
56 notes · View notes
magicalenbysarah · 2 years
Text
"Don't be antisemitic. Jesus was Jewish!"
Actual Jews are Jewish too...
254 notes · View notes
tweedstoat · 4 months
Text
As someone who grew up brown in a post 9/11 America I gotta say it's wild seeing some internet racists pivot to stanning Muslims cause apparently virulent antisemitism is the new big thing? Like 10 years ago you people were calling everyone darker than a paper bag terrorists and testing me for bomb residue everytime I went to the airport and now you're quoting the Quran???
I mean i know why it's happening it's racist grifters looking to use minority groups as battering rams against one another I just have to say it's a wild switch to see in my lifetime.
10 notes · View notes
sins-of-the-sea · 4 months
Text
The Jewish Commune, Avignon, France, 1518
Tumblr media
"Why did you do that to that boy?! He was nice!! He said my eyes were pretty and liked my smile!"
Tumblr media
"First off, he's Christian! Christians never come to our part of the city with good intent! Second of all, he's clearly flirting with you! He's likely trying to stick things into parts of your body you'll never want stuck in to begin with!"
Tumblr media
"Gross, Guy! You can't just assume the worst in anyone who looks at any of us! You chase away suitors for Maman, any pretty girl looking at Phoebus, and now you're chasing boys away from me too?! Why are YOU the only one allowed to have lovers?!"
Tumblr media
"They're not real lovers, Noelle, they're meal tickets. You can't find real love in people like them."
Tumblr media
"I want real love!!"
Tumblr media
"Then arrange yourself at the matchmaker!"
Tumblr media
"NO!!" Noelle starts pounding at Guy's chest. Ineffectively. "I don't want to be arranged with some stranger or someone I don't like just because we're 'compatible'! I want friends! I want love! Real love!"
Tumblr media
Guy looks upon his sister, distraught at this reaction. "Noelle..."
Tumblr media
"AND I'LL NEVER GET IT IF YOU INTERFERE WITH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE!!" She starts punching the shit out of him.
Tumblr media
"OOFF!!"
7 notes · View notes