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#chain of iron theories
anthurak · 2 months
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Continuing my theorizing on Alastor’s powers not actually belonging to him, and rather actually being bound to whoever is holding his leash, I thought I’d discuss the visuals of Alastor’s powers. And in particular how they don’t seem to fit him.
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For one, just look at how Alastor’s powers usually manifest externally. As some kind of summoned minions, tentacles or other such conjurations. Like his powers aren’t truly some extension or manifestation of his will, but rather some detached force that is simply following his orders. And could stop following his orders if it wanted to…
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Then there are the times Alastor’s powers seem to manifest internally. Obviously this is all extremely twisted, creepy and wrong. And what if that’s the point? What if this is meant to convey that Alastor’s power isn’t so much twisted and unnatural in a general sense, but to Alastor specifically? That this is a power that isn’t his and isn’t meant to BE his, and thus is twisting and warping his body in all these unnatural ways.
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And there’s also the color of Alastor’s power (shoutout to @short-wooloo for pointing this out). Has anyone else noticed that it always seems to have a green color or tint? A color that otherwise doesn’t appear on Alastor. His powers literally don’t fit him. And if you’re still not convinced, just look at this shot when Charlie is making her deal with him:
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The strands that clearly seem to be stitching Alastor’s mouth shut are GREEN.
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Alastor’s powers may be great and terrible, but I think they’re also the CHAINS binding him to whoever is holding his leash.
Finally, considering how Alastor apparently ALWAYS had this power from the moment he first appeared in Hell, this may have some pretty dark implications. As in, what if Alastor’s soul, his very essence has become twisted and corrupted by this external power that has bound him to a greater being from the moment he died?
Frankly, it all sounds pretty on point for something that’s likely meant to represent the classic ‘Deal with the Devil’.
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spacehero-23 · 2 years
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Lucie flinched when Will and James tried to hug her because she can't be touched. Which means, after being worried sick about her for god know how many days, Will won't be able to hug his daughter.
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dustndshadows · 1 year
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My thoughts on chain of thorns
I am happy. mostly. Also, GIVE ME MORE SCENES OF EVERYONE BEING HAPPY IN LOVE please. I was tortured for TWO YEARS.
that’s all.
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herondaleminds · 1 year
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Chain Of Thorns Theory:
What if Matthew doesn't die, but gets his rune marks stripped off? What if he takes a punishment? What if he takes Lucie's punishment after she brings Jesse back to life?
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Who is inquisitor Bridgestock trying to blackmail? Charles is the obvious top choice but I also think Alastair is another choice. Maybe that's why they are meeting. If it's either of them then it means Bridgestock knows who they were involved with and they are just letting the other know what's going on and how to deal with it. And like this line just makes me think it's Alastair because who else has very publicly stuck out his neck for a Lightwood and is closer to the Herondales as of late (unless Charles has been doing other things in secret)
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Anyway I just think this is an interesting plot point and connects so many characters to each other. It'll be fascinating to see how this plays out.
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moony401 · 1 year
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I know everyone’s freaking out about the two truths and a lie but I just want to remind y’all that this series features a reverse mermaid fish who’s in a romantic subplot:
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So
It is truly not that far fetched for Belial to be flying around on a talking bird…
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CHOT Two Truths And a Lie 💀
MY GOD YALL CC DID A TWO TRUTHS AND A LIE ON INSTAGRAMMMM 
1) a head of an institute is going to be killed 
2) belial is going to fly around on a talking bird 
3) a main character is going to die and be reborn as a vampire
- shes so good at fucking with us bc shes 100% seen the theories of matthew turning into a vampire AND IF HE DOES TURN WOULD SHE SPOIL ITTT... to throw us off? now these theories dont seem as far fetched, but that's such a confusing and open ended ending bc then hes immortal?? 😩 ig he’ll might show up in TWP 
- i literally do not care about any of the institute heads (except wessa ofc), but its specific enough to make you question it 🤷 its probably the Paris head or another English head, maybe as a plot scheme to get the adults out of town (bc they would have to go take care of it)
- and its kinda reasonable that belial is flying around on a bird?? she’s probably overexaggerating so it seems ridiculous and more like a lie?? to throw us off 😔 but its also rly odd-
HELP IM LITERALLY GOING IN CIRCLES WHY DID SHE DO THIS TO US
@weewoolesbian @rinadragomir
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luciehercndale · 1 year
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Aside from a touch and affection-starved Jesse that I clearly like and I'm sure will enjoy, this situation feels precisely like what happened with Jordelia. COG and COI James had the gracelet, which inhibited his real feelings for Cordelia, and which made Cordelia very frustrated because she didn't know whether James was being truthful with her or not, until she run away to Paris. It seemed as if the gracelet would never break and Jordelia would never be able to declare their feelings, until it breaks. Whenever Jordelia made out, surprisingly, they weakened the power of the gracelet until the gracelet broke down for good. It didn't break because of magic. It broke because of the power of love and passion and desire that James and Cordelia felt for each other. True love broke an enchantment of fake love. I believe that Blackdale are in a same situation. Lucie's love for Jesse kept him more here than there and helped him back into this world. Her love saved his soul, in a way, but in return, she had to give something back. From the snippets released so far, we know that Lucie and Jesse can't touch but they seem to want to try to kiss and make out anyway. And it seems as if it might be working. I think perhaps Lucie was bound by an enchantment like the one in the gracelet, just in reverse. James was manipulated into thinking he liked somebody else and to give the person he loved mixed signals, which made her (Cordelia), decide to run away to cure her broken heart. Lucie, on the contrary, is even more in love with Jesse after brining him back (and so is he), but they can't actively live that love because they can't do the physical/touching part of love. So they might break this curse (because that's what it is) by daring to get physical (as in, to make out et similar). Just like Jordelia did. In return, Jordelia will instead have to work on the building trust and declaring their feelings part, so the not physical part of love, which Blackdale already started building in COI.
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sjfwrites · 2 years
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Real question: do people like Grace Blackthorn?
Like, can I empathise with her? Of course. Do I like her? Not really. She’s done too many gross things for me.
I’m open to some great character development in Chain of thorns but I don’t know if it will 100% change my mind.
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msbrightsides · 2 years
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CHOT theory time!
This is for all the people who read the first chapter on CHOT
Spoilers Ahead:
So I was thinking about Ariadne and how she found information her father had written about the Herondales and Lightwoods. And how her mother acted when she was in Maurice’s office: no longer warm like she was earlier. I think this confrontation will end one of two ways:
1. Ariadne’s mother kicks her out of the house. Either as punishment for snooping and seeming “untrustworthy”, or bc Ariadne defends her friends against her parents’ prejudice. OR
2. Ariadne chooses to leave the house on her own accord. She’s lonely and her mother is hostile, so why should she stay?
Either way, that brings her to Anna’s doorstep because she feels she has nowhere else to turn. She can’t go to the Institute bc that would look bad on her family and she still cares about them. So she goes to Anna, who ultimately lets her in bc of the information Ariadne has. And then they’ll rekindle their relationship after some angst and tension
What do we think?
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spacehero-23 · 1 year
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“What happened with Grace and James was so terrible, I don’t feel qualified to address it” you’re killing me cassie…
but she also said that Matthew and Alastair could work things out if they only talked to each other, so there’s some hope for that storyline.
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ashalightwood · 1 year
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I want so much that Matthew get his happy ending in chor. I really don't think he'll die but I also don't want him to become a downloader or get Lost in fairie to come back in TWP. I mean, I already think his arc is more similar to Jem's than Will's , but that would be too on the nose and he wouldn't even have a Tessa waiting for him like Jem did. I mean, what's the point of having Matthew coming back without his family, parabatai and friends? They were the most important thing in the world for Math, and he'll lose them? Without having time to rebuild and be in peace with them? No, thanks...
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theamazingwhizzo · 1 year
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What if I told you TLH doesn't happen in the past and it's happening around the same time as TDA?
Let me explain. In COG Cordelia saw a "view of dead ground and broken trees, and a red moon rising". The desert, the mention of a red moon, is literally a description of Thule. I couldn't understand how it was possible if Thule and our dimension split during the dark war, way after TLH.
But what if TLH isn't happening in our dimension but another one exaclty the same as our own, except is 1903. Maybe time passes slower, so it's identical but with different times.
And the Avenger Assemblence Cassandra Clare talked about, with the characters of the shadowhunter chronicals in TWP (And has confirmed they aren't ghost), is possible because they travel from their dimension to ours, like Emma and Julian did.
Just a thought
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moonchildreg · 2 years
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Lucie Herondale - circa 1905
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wyluvbot · 1 year
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in light of Cassie’s instagram post, these are the chapters I’m most scared for… and why. just theories or general thoughts
6. through blood: who is bleeding and why. please don’t hurt them excessively, cassie
10. wanderer …. why are we wandering? i am really interested in what this chapter will be about. are we going on a journey? following a type of greater demon prince?
11. devil’s paladin .. poor Cordelia will definitely be visited by Lilith here, maybe even forced to do things like kill someone
13. angels alone … this just sounds sad and possibly sinister. almost like there is a fight and someone is left without help?
16&17. chimes at midnight/lamp of night … these sound really interesting, but bad things happen at night so…
19. marks of woe … WHY ARE WE FILLED WITH WOE. who’s getting their marks stripped?
26. the remorseful day… obviously someone is doing something they’ll regret, killing someone or hurting someone??? Cordelia does something because of Lilith? Jesse and Lucie? idk….
intermission: grief. i have nothing to say about this, it’s self explanatory. someone will die.
27. clouds of darkness … this will be the aftermath of whatever happens in 26…. the thing I’m concerned about is that a major character will die and we’ll have 9 chapters (200 pages, this is a guess) without someone we love.
29. exile from light … does Lucie or Matthew get exiled after marks are stripped?
35. winged with lightning … this sounds either angelic or demonic, maybe something happens to James or Cordelia? nothing bad though, I’m manifesting a happy jordelia ending
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luciehercndale · 2 years
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Chain of Gold, Ch. 3 - Cordelia taking care of James while he has a fever and brings him back from the shadow realm. Don't forget that when James travelled to the shadow realm where Belial was, Cordelia was his anchor and was able to bring him back to the surface. Perhaps it was their love for each other, even if they didn't know about their feelings for each other, that helped them stay strong against their enemies.
Chain of Thorns, Ch. 1 - Jesse taking care of Lucie while she's unconscious after bringing him back. Supposedly takes Lucie back from whenever she is? The chapter is titled "Twilight", so I'm assuming Lucie is in a void where lost souls are... between the living and the dead. She fell there when she tried to bring Jesse back in Chain of Iron Ch. 13. In this occasion, it was Lucie who brought Jesse back from the world of shadows (ghosts) he had been for seven years. Maybe, Jesse's love will be able to bring Lucie back?
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