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preseriesdean · 1 year
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DEAN + AFFECTION
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hearthouses · 1 month
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happy wincest wednesday!! what do you think would happen if jess found out?
This is highly dependent on when she finds out and how she finds out, in my opinion.
Personally, I struggle a lot with fics where Jess is immediately okay with it and even kinks on incest because it often feels like an easy way to avoid conflict and drama. In an effort to sketch out her character, it feels more like she's positioned as a "cool girl" plot device who is down for anything rather than a fully formed, real person with feelings that can be hurt. So for a situation where Jess eventually becomes okay with it, I imagine it would take a lot of work and development to get there.
My primary thought would be an AU where Jess lives, but in the process is injured and traumatized, and feeling deeply hurt and betrayed by Sam who she discovers has been lying and ommiting truths, leaving her vulnerable. If she chooses to go with them, it would need to be for herself and her own peace of mind, but in the process, she would be getting to know Sam as he is and not as he presented himself, all his dark parts and secrets, and not knowing if she can love this Sam when she fell in love with an illusion. In this AU, I imagine she becomes closer to Dean by default of there being no history, Dean is a clean slate, Dean hasn't lied to her and made her believe he was someone he wasn't. A writer would have to develop Dean and Jess as a separate relationship and dynamic, then have Jess open up to Sam again.
As for her finding out about Sam and Dean in this scenario, I think depending how everything unfolds and develops is what would make or break it. I don't think Jess is in a position to immediately accept it because I imagine she's lived a fairly regular life, and while I think people are cool with things in fiction, it's another thing entirely to have it shoved in your face in reality. I imagine in the best case scenario, with development, it's still a shock to her system and she would have to reconcile everything else that has happened, on top of finding out the man she was going to possibly marry is in love with his brother. So I waver on if she can fully commit and be all in, or not, which I don't blame her at all for and would rather a more realistic and messy possible break up, over a situation that rings hollow and false.
As for finding out during the canon Stanford timeline, I can't imagine any other scenario than her assuming Dean had sexually abused Sam. This would be figuring something happened when Sam was underage, and that Dean being older and his caregiver meant he took advantage. I think she would loathe Dean in this scenario and attempt to help Sam with trying to get him therapy or give him books or find groups he can attend, all while Sam continues to insist it was never like that and wholeheartedly defending Dean. I imagine she would be cold to Dean when he shows up in the pilot and unable to figure out why Sam would want to go off with him.
I also like scenarios where Sam confesses half-truths, like he was younger when he lost his virginity to somone older and Jess using context clues and coming to the worst conclusions. In these scenarios, Jess means well and is trying to help Sam because she loves him and she's never going to be able to wrap her mind around in what world any of this would be okay, or even understandable. She doesn't have the same frame of reference or experience. I personally would love to see more fics that explore the complexities and nuances of what it would be like to be Jess and having to come to terms with all this information, as well as fics that don't necessarily end in a happy poly Sam/Dean/Jess situation, but rather Jess realizing the best thing for her would be to walk away.
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horrorshow · 1 year
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happy wincest wednesday! what do you think is sam's freakiest kink?
consensual somnophilia. but let me build up to that.
in general sam is more dominant and he likes dean as an actively engaging and happy bed partner so on a basic level his kinks are strongly related to dean's pleasure. it's pretty much 'whatever dean lets him get away with'. when dean loses his snark and he willingly lets himself get manhandled, pinned down, put into bendy positions or follow orders, you can count on it it feeds sam's lil powertripping dominant alpha brain. so whatever sam has to do to get dean there and ENJOY that, doesn't really matter (spoiler: it's not much bc dean is easy like that). it can get intense when he's pushing boundaries, but its not really all that kinky bc sam can do the bare minimum for maximum results here. if anything he's holding himself back.
(related to that, i absolutely think sam has a size kink and he nuts a bit harder when comparing dick sizes and seeing he's bigger, and knowing he's strong enough to pick dean up and hold him up when dean throws his legs around his waist etc)
hunting probably gave them some kinks as well, so the occasional hand cuffs, bondage, blind folds, choking, bit of impact play etc will be part of their routine. which i love to think and read about, but realistically speaking, won't happen too often. it's something that only works when they're both in the mood for it, and even when they are, it's nothing too extreme. sam doesnt like to seriously hurt dean or cause him pain.
where i think the interesting kinks come in is that so much of sam’s love and desire for dean has been wrapped around dean and dean’s sex life since sam was a kid. in my mind sam and dean slept in the same bed as kids/teenagers (c’mon, it’s just practical on the road) and dean was sexually active from a young age (regardless of whether you think he was sexually abused, did sex work, had random hookups, or, as i think, all three). and i think sam has unknowingly been giving dean aftercare long before sam even fully had an understanding of what it was exactly that dean did. sam would be sleeping and dean would climb into his bed late at night, smelling like sex and booze and other people, and sometimes he was happy and content, and sometimes he was a bit out of it or shaken up, and sam, recently trained in what Monsters and Horrors are out there, did the sensible thing he could do: check if dean was okay or injured. dean was always a bit softer those times at night, would allow and even welcome sam’s caressing touches, coming down after an intense fuck and longing for comfort, and sam would notice and trace the bruises and bite marks and hickeys, and if they woke up limbs entangled, shut up, they didn’t cuddle, and while nothing about this started as sexual, it did fill sam with worry and protectiveness and confusion and anger at whoever did this to him, over time turning into jealousy and desire when he had his own sexual awakening.
what i’m trying to say: sam LOVES to mark dean up. in general but SPECIFICALLY after dean had sex with someone else. sam doesn’t mind if dean has sex with other people as long as there isnt any further emotional connection and dean comes home to him, and when he does, sam loves making sweet love to a sloppy already used blissed out dean, marking up the same spots the person before him did, pressing, kissing, nibbling, biting, sucking, ejaculating, licking, and rubbing his chin all over him like a cat, and pamper him until the traces and marks left by anyone else are all reclaimed and dean tastes and smells like dean again (or... like sam, but to them thats probably the same thing). therapeutic and fulfilling to all his teenage desires. bit weird and freaky? probably. kinky? idk
(adding to this: i’d say sam’s FREAKIEST kink is probably biting hard and lapping up the blood, he’d find tasting dean’s blood on his tongue extremely erotic, but.... there’s too much shame and guilt there to enjoy it bc of the whole ruby and demonblood fiasco, and he’s convinced this kink  is a hard no for dean and dean would judge him for it, so he keeps that one locked away)
so. FREAKIEST kink  (at least to sam) they WOULD do: in this whole scenario its also realistic to assume sam woke up to sounds of dean having sex in the other bed often as a kid, and i think that made him feel helpless and scared, bc he had NO idea what was really going on there. and i think nothing gets sam harder now than sitting on top of a sleeping dean, in the dark, and explore dean’s body, hearing dean making those same noises for HIM, and knowing that they’re safe and okay bc sam has got him now, knowing he’s no longer the confused scared boy who woke up to these weird noises but the one in control now. as if he’s been competing with all those others before him (especially those who took advantage of dean) and sam won. and that makes him rock hard. which makes this an ugly and shameful thing for him, bc a secret part of him will always wonder if he’s any better than his father or any of those other men, especially if there was also incest between his father and dean, or if sam was present to any other abusive sexual situations. and that’s why he can’t have dean awake. it’s a private thing between sam and his demons, and he needs to be able to explore dean at his own pace, away from prying eyes or judgement, cause if anyone would see him he’d feel like a creep. which is unnecessary bc the sex itself wouldn’t be any freakier than any of my earlier bullet points (it’s all very loving, and he wouldn’t do anything dean wouldn’t want him to; if dean WAS awake he’d probably ask sam to stop boring him and get on with it), but the connotations are, and sam feels weird and guilty about it afterwards (also bc it’s so different to what usually gets him going), but not enough to stop bc this is an internal battle he has to make peace with and the only way to make peace with it is to enjoy it and work through that guilt, and for dean this kink would be a non-issue, if you’d ask him how he’d feel about waking up to an orgasm, he’d probably throw sam a party, so yes, they would do this. 
one other addition: i think one of dean’s freakier kinks is the kink variant of munchausen by proxy, and i think sam LOVES to indulge dean in this, especially when sam’s down and depressed and he feels like he’s losing his mind, nothing is more comforting to him than to revert back to being a little brother sometimes and suck poison off dean’s fingers and let dean take care of him. kiss me dean before i’m sick and all that. so that one would rate pretty high on the freaky kink list for him as well, even though it’s a rare one and he’d never initiate it.
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stanfordsweater · 1 year
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happy wincest wednesday again!! bonus ask!! if wincest were more canon than it already is, and you got to pick the song playing during their first onscreen sex scene, what would it be?
happy wincest wednesday again to you too!! 🥰 this is a GREAT question. i spent the whole day thinking about it, and i'm going to have to go with god hates the dirty ones by the death riders.
if wincest happened in canon, by virtue of the endless plot, i think it would have to be fraught-- the death riders are great at building tension in their music, and this song in particular has a long guitar section that would go really well with long shots of their backs as they [REDACTED] ahahaha. also, like, look at this:
I live and breathe like a two headed dog Like a fly in a jar Suffocating in the junkyard
amazing.
it also communicates the sense of isolation that's so integral to sam and dean, for me, making their relationship something that makes them dirty in the eyes of god, but something they can't stay away from... and that angst is delicious to me during their first time.
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she-s-a-shy-one · 2 years
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SANSA STARK APPRECIATION MONTH + DAY SIX: THE VALE (2)
Sansa Stark went up the mountain, but Alayne Stone is coming down. It was a strange thought. Coming up, Mya had warned her to keep her eyes on the path ahead, she remembered. “Look up, not down,” she said … but that was not possible on the descent. I could close my eyes. The mule knows the way, he has no need of me. But that seemed more something Sansa would have done, that frightened girl. Alayne was an older woman, and bastard brave.
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iensen-ackles · 2 months
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your icon always makes me stop and stare when i see it in my notes i'm so in love with her
oh my god this was left in my inbox for months i assume i had a danneel icon back then because i change quite frequently lol i'm so sorry i never meant to ignore this 😭💀 thank you tho ! <3
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ladyculebras · 2 years
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happy wincest wednesday scorp!
what's the fic that converted you to wincest? not necessarily the first you remember reading, but the first that impressed you and stayed with you all these years?
Thank you for the ask! I love wincest wednesday <3
I am gonna talk about the first fic I read, because if we're talking about converting me to wincest, I gotta start with the first because I never considered wincest as a possibility until I stumbled upon my first wincest fic (keep in mind, I was 13-14 at the time). I specifically remember thinking that I thought Sam/Dean had a buddy cop dynamic but they're brothers, so you can't ship them, and then I clicked on an Angel The Series/SPN Crossover fic (fun fact: SPN was the show I used to replace Angel, because after the finale for ATS aired, they showed a little trailer for SPN coming next fall, and I decided to watch it because of that trailer), that had Sam/Dean as vampires and also incest and I was SHOCKED. I wasn't offended by it but I didn't realize that people would go there!
After that, I'm not sure....I don't think I sought out fic but sometime around Dead Man's Blood, people were writing more Sam/Dean fics and I was more aware that there was a group of fans that really shipped them? And I wasn't ~into it but I also was curious about it. I didn't really like gen or any other ships so I started poking around at the fics to see what they were doing.
I remember one fic that sticks out at me that I read after Devil's Trap but before season 2, where Sam/Dean recover from the car accident and got together. I don't remember the name or much of what happened in it, honestly, except for Dean got a Camaro (which is BLASPHAMY now but I don't think people realized just how much the Impala meant at the time) but somehow it sold me on wincest, lol. I was like "aww. I like this. Maybe I'll read more." I remember I was very into flipmontigirl, who wrote one of my favorite Sam/Dean get together while Sam is still grieving Jess. I think it was called Fishing Through the City Phonelines? Unfortunately they've privated their fic and I can't find it anywhere. They wrote a lot of in second person POV which really worked for me but not for a lot of other people.
With that in mind, I'm going to rec a few fics that I read in between the s1 and s2 hiatus that I do remember.
on the banks of the tiber - A Sam/Dean werewolf AU that heavily influenced my characterization of Sam. It's set near the end of season one and it's not actually incest, it's gen, but I guess today it'd be called weirdcest, or gencest. It has a lot of vibes and it felt very shippy despite not kissing. It's what I want for Sam/Dean, basically.
and we are here as on a darkling plain - Very early season one fic where Sam gets demon powers and Dean gets angel powers. It gives Good Omen vibes, I think it has more in common with that than the show but I thought it was hilarious and delightful. It's very FUN, which was what my 14 year old brain wanted for wincest but I enjoyed most of what this author has written and I wouldn't have gone on to explore more wincest fic if I didn't read stuff like this.
Transmutation - Sam/Dean/Jess. This is messy and I really love the messiness of all parties involved. Jess survives but gets half her face burned off and insists on going with Sam and Dean to hunt the YED. Sam copes badly. I love her characterization and I know you asked for wincest but it was absolutely one of the very first few fics I read in this fandom that really worked for me.
Conversations Over a Front Seat - This is a very typical fic, insofar that I don't think it's anything new to anyone now, but it's Sam and Dean, in the Impala, trading stories, secrets, jokes, fantasies, nd eventually confessing incest feelings. It's one of the very first fics I read that made me go "yeah okay, I guess they have feelings for each other, I mean who blame them?" I loved reading them coming to terms with their incestous feelings and struggling with them at the time.
Factum Amoris - One of the very first fuck or die fics I've read. In this one, Sam/Dean get trapped in a haunted house and the only way they can escape is with ~an act of love, which Sam determines actually means sex. Dean doesn't get why he is trapped, because he's no virgin but Sam figures out it means he's never had sex with someone he loves. It sounds tropey but I thought it highlighted the emotions between them pretty well. I remember reading this and being somewhat emotionally undone by the fact that the only person Dean loves this much is brother and my heart just sort of breaking.
devil's tips his hat to me - I swore I reread this earlier this year on LJ, but it was deleted. Thank god for sinfuldesires archives on AO3, though. This is Sam/Dean vampire AU where Sam becomes a vampire in late season one, and Dean copes. This was a fic that when I first read, I thought it was horrific and it made me feel sad but also sick and also kinda fucked up (I was 14 at the time; if I read this for the first time today as an adult, I wouldn't feel this way, but I do think it's a bit of a horror story). It stuck with me, though, and I kept rereading it. There was a lot I admired about it, the prose, the downward spiral of it all, the style choices and atmosphere. It enshews quotations entirely, which worked for me, but it won't work for everyone else. It made the dialogue hit different, though, in a way I can't fully describe. It feels almost dream like. I think it was massively influential for me, directly inspired large chunks of his shoulders blot out the stars so...I am very sad it's gone from LJ.
I didn't mean to rec so many fics but I guess I was thinking of all the fics that sort of stuck with me when I was getting into wincest. Not the most defining ones, or the most popular ones but the ones I found while I was trying to search for stuff to read and really worked for me and helped convince me of the ship, tbh.
There's other stuff. I remember reading a ton of weecest fics but one of them (Things My Brother Taught Me), I can't seem to find anymore, and another one I forgot the name of. If anyone remembers the Television Without Pity boards, I used to read the SPN recaps, then reading the forums there. They had their own little subsection for discussing specifically, which eventually got DELETED sometime around season two. I guess it got too freaky, since TWOP was pretty mainstream. I remember I first read the Flowers in the Attic comparison there. Another thing that really influenced me was an SPN podcast I started listening to, EVP. They'd read several fics out loud and it was great for finding recs. I used to listen to it before falling asleep. It was a really great and fun resource to have.
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happy birthday shannon!!!!!💞💞💞💞💞
thank you!! 🤍🤍🤍🤍
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lesbianalicent · 1 year
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alicentgirl -> montilyet
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valyrianfreehold · 10 months
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ty to my roommate who gave me this url that she’s bad for over 10 years and hasn’t used
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there's no famine of things to believe in.
inspired by this gifset by @alaynestone.
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preseriesdean · 1 year
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happy wincest wednesday<33!! do you have a headcanon for why they haven't spoken in 2 years according to the pilot or do you accept that as a continuity error and assume they haven't spoken in 4?
happy wincest thwednesday!! 💞 i do think it’s a continuity error (isn’t there also this thing where according to john’s journal, which isn’t really canon, sam actually left for stanford at 19, not 18? let’s disregard the journal though and say sam left for stanford in ‘01) but i’m running with it.
there are so many possibilities here: of course there’s the drunk 1am phone call somewhere in the middle. but WHAT IF they actually just ran into each other by chance - at least seemingly? not in palo alto, but on a trip sam took. he’ll walk down the street, maybe even in san francisco or somewhere far away, and see the impala parked right there and he’ll go, okay, this could be anyone’s car. theirs wasn’t one of a kind. except the plates match, so it’s definitely dean’s. sam’s friends will gush over the car and sam is sort of stuck, until he sees dean round the corner with a to-go coffee cup and bags under his eyes and his hair longer than sam has ever seen it and there’s this split second of both of them just staring before dean slaps on a grin and gets all smug about some other guy making heart-eyes at the impala. and it takes sam a little while longer to get his brain back online where he recognizes dean’s tough-guy act for exactly what it is but also doesn't know what to say at all
they’d go to a bar and try to catch up but neither of them is telling the whole truth about how they’re doing and they both know they’re lying but neither is willing to call the other one out on it, because they’re not allowed to do that anymore after so long, and maybe they play some darts and try to savor that little unexpected sense of normalcy, of being brothers without this baggage looming over them, and the elephant in the room takes away all the oxygen from around them and there’s this unspeakable tension that’s somehow part anger part longing part something-else until they part ways again because dean’s case is dealt with and sam has exams soon.
and sam is left wondering if it actually was a coincidence because of course mr. dean “i thought you’d tell me to get lost or get dead” winchester wouldn’t admit to following him, right? his face was startled enough when they saw each other, but sam hasn’t seen dean in two years and he’s horrified to realize that he might be out of practice when it comes to reading his brother’s expressions, something he’d always been stellar at, so that’s also a whole issue that breaks sam’s heart a little bit. and he should feel outraged at the possibility of dean following him instead of just calling him and asking how he’s doing but he can’t quite make himself actually feel that rage because it’s dean and there’s always been this part of him that secretly liked how dean loved him in that obsessive, entitled way, because it's what he knows best and it makes him feel safe. so he accepts it.
then it’s another two years of radio silence because dean saw that sam was happy with his friends and fitting in with them, and sam assumes that dean’s still angry at him for leaving, and they’re still young and stupid and trying not to act on how obsessed they both are with each other, so they go right back to not talking. 🙂
this, i think, also works with how dean appears in the pilot and throughout the first season: cocky at first but then earnest and honest, too, communicating more clearly what it is that he wants and needs, “i can’t do this alone / i don’t want to” (only five minutes in and he’s already letting himself be vulnerable. i love him so much) because that first time two years ago didn’t work out so well, did it? so this time he tries to do it right, because the stakes are higher and because he needs sam.
(obligatory fic rec: i’ll take my chance on a beautiful stranger by fleshflutter)
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hearthouses · 22 days
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fanfiction wip meme: pregnant
Their child. The thought still makes him feel a little dizzy, if he thinks too hard on it, remembering why he was here, kept locked up and guarded—to protect him and the life they made, growing slowly inside him.
“Hi,” Sam says, not to Dean as his forehead comes to rest against Dean’s stomach, the flutter of Sam’s eyelashes tickling his skin, “hi, baby girl.”
Dean wonders if she talks back to Sam, if Sam through some miracle of his powers can hear her, sense her beyond what they can see and Dean can feel, but he’s not sure if it’s possible at this stage, if she’s even been given a soul yet. The thought passes as quickly as it comes when Sam’s lips brush against his skin, then press down, trailing kisses from the top of his belly, then down the curve as Sam hunches, lowering himself onto the floor until Dean feels his mouth where the lace of his panties meets skin.
“Oh,” Dean breathes, feeling the heat inside him spread out throughout his body, as his cock starts to thicken, obscene in the lovely lingerie, and his cunt begins to get slick. It’s easy to get him worked up, ever since he got pregnant, all his hormones in overdrive.
Dean reaches down to the elastic waistband of his underwear. “Do you want me to—” Dean starts, but Sam glances up and the look in his eyes stops Dean, the molten gold, not-quite-human anymore color staring right back at him, making him gasp.
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wastemanjohn · 4 months
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tagged by @nameslikeguns and inspired by @preseriesdean! thanks :D
Rules: list your top 5 creations you made for this year. Creations can include any type of fic, any type of art, webweaves/comparatives, meta/headcanon posts, gifsets/edits, fanvids, playlists - anything that contributed to the fandom. These don't have to be your most popular - just the ones you love best.
when the stiff wind blows - johndean phone sex, sub!John, yes this fic is still my whole personality and will be until the day i die
one day like this - johndeanna, Sam Finds Out, everybody loves a clown feels
coming up roses everywhere - my first earnest attempt at samjohn and god I'm so happy with this chaotic filthy fic
then leave me the bones - johndean, non con undertones (or overtones depending on how you look at these things), back to my roots and god i do love the ending of this one
my first vaguely decent edit
honorable mentions: this be the verse (one big family nonconathon that took me MONTHS), and the unfinished serial killer John AU (spot the deliberate mistake over who sings i will survive bc lol i just did)
tagging with no obligation @amiwritesthings @catfoodsminmo @lovetransaction @samswomb @deanwinchesterpregnant @beautyandthebestiality @alaynestone @horrorshow @spnyuri @mercette @blacknidstang @setyourfireonme and mind blank has dumb if I've missed any homies please consider yourself tagged
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stanfordsweater · 1 year
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happy wincest wednesday, ava!! what are your favorite samdean edits you've made so far? (top 5 or top 10)
thank you vicky 🥺 i'll do top 5! i'm sorry this is so late but wincest wednesday is more a state of mind, right???? RIGHT!
starting this off with my soft rock playlist because i'm gonna fail to ever make one of these posts again--i had a really good time putting the playlist together with several discord pals, which was essential help! i have limited knowledge of the genre and i was able to find some gems with their help, so: thanks to y'all <3 i like the composite feel that comes with the several images of different dimensions + i tend to shy away from these paler/overlaid filter style edits, so it was nice to push outside my (very shadowy) comfort zone.
fourth is a tie between this edit from one of my long time favourite songs and this dead in the water gifset! i couldn't decide because i like the first one for the fun narrative switch right at the end that takes it from sam's POV to dean's, but the second one is one of my favourite episodes and has a fun grimy look to it. all good things...
my third fave is unclean in the biblical sense because it really is the sam thesis, as i see it. it's simple, it's clean, and it distills several very important parts of his character in those early seasons into four gifs, which i'm quite proud of! i've seen other versions of this quote with various scenes but none of them have really gripped me and had me nodding along, so i had to make my own.
#2 is this season four parallels post because a. it's the first gifset i finished and thought that i might actually be... good at this... and b. not enough people talk about these VERY deliberate parallels!!!! i LIVE for them.
my this is how you lose the time war post is my number one. i am really proud of the colouring being so different for the different eras but still looking cohesive in the full post, in large part because it's fucking HARD to try to match the colour from kripke era to later seasons. this one was a unique challenge because it's important to me to match my edits with the vibe/theme of the original work, and that book handles time non-chronologically in a way i knew i had to echo with my edit. i felt i had to try to capture the way sam is so cordoned-off, even to the number one person in his life-- sam kept the amulet for YEARS. that is INSANE. his expression when dean finds out he had it this whole time is brain bending. having that in the script was such a beautiful way to illustrate the way sam works, which is that he has his own way to keep himself accountable and to remember the things that shaped him, ways he would never bring up to another person-- the amulet symbolizes his love for dean, his rebellion against john, his personal failures in season 4-- it's in his pocket every day to remind him of what he and dean were-- and then in season 11, with his sentimentality stripped bare in front of dean, it becomes what they are, here and now. and that's really neat.
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monstraduplicia · 8 months
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