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yaerenart · 4 months
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“Men come and go. They lie, or die, or leave you. A mountain is not a man, though, and stone is a mountain's daughter.”
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laurellerual · 1 year
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Really like your style! Your art is so catchy👏👏👏May I ask for some young Ned&Robert sketch?
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westerosiladies · 11 months
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Sansa Stark Month Day Twenty-One: The Vale Arc
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game-of-style · 7 months
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Gown for a Lady of House Arryn - Ziad Nakad Haute Couture Spring 2019
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racefortheironthrone · 6 months
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In a world where Robb Stark wins his war and manages to consolidate his realm, with the 7K being no more, lets assume he also annexes the northern crownlands too, what kind of council or burocracy would he establish to govern and how much of your economic development plans could he reasonably carry out in his lifetime and how could he unify his 2 realms economy into a cohesive unit?
In a Stark victory scenario, I think annexing the northern Crownlands would be an overstretch and something of a distraction from more important tasks (like bringing the Iron Islands and the Vale into his sphere of influence so that he can govern a geographically, economically, and politically coherent kingdom/coalition of northern Westeros).
To quote King Robb:
"Duskendale, on the narrow sea? Why would they go to Duskendale?" He'd shook his head, bewildered. "A third of my foot, lost for Duskendale?"
What matters in a brand-new Kingdom of the North is things like whether Gulltown accepts silver coins minted in White Harbor with Robb's face on them as valid payment for debts and taxes, or whether the Ironborn agree to keep their reaving south of Ironman's Bay, or whether the Stark navy can keep the Trident open all the way to the Bay of Crabs so that the Riverlands can keep trading directly with Braavos.
I did some back-reading through various economic development posts to see what I'd said in the past about the tricky scenario of how one balances the interests of multiple kingdoms in pursuing economic development. One of the things I'm noticing is that there are some reforms where there is real issues with competition/duplication of efforts (a Kingdom of the North can probably only support one Bank, one canal scheme, one sub-treasury system, one purchasing/marketing cooperative, etc.), some reforms where individual kingdoms can pursue their own goals but where there would be an issue about how the king balances the rewards he's doling out between the kingdoms (do you put your marginal dragon into winter schools and greenhouses for the North or church schools for the Riverlands or roads for the Vale?), and some where every kingdom can pitch in in a common effort (if there's going to be one sub-treasury plan, you're going to need a network of granaries along waterways from the Last River down to the Trident, the same information about how to improve agricultural productivity can be shared between the North, the Riverlands, and the Vale basically for free, etc).
That being said, one of the major political challenges of the Kingdom of the North was always going to be how you balance the interests of the component kingdoms and make everyone feel like the central government is giving them a fair deal and being attentive to their interests - and as you say, forging them into a cohesive economy would go a long way into doing that. So for example, one priority should be in working out reciprocity in trade between the newly-chartered cities. It certainly helps that a bunch of them (White Harbor, Gulltown, Maidenpool, Lord Harroway's Town, Saltpans) are along the same coast of the Narrow Sea or just upriver from the Narrow Sea, which makes close trade links more likely. However, you're going to want to make formal legal arrangements that, when it comes to port fees and staple fees and warehousing fees and the like, all of the North's cities agree to set them as low as possible for other Northern cities (if not an outright zollverein), and that burgher rights are transferrable between cities and that city ordinances will be honored by other cities, and so on.
In terms of "council or burocracy would he establish to govern," Robb was already taking a decent first step to bolster Lord Paramount Edmure Tully by appointing Brynden the Blackfish as Warden of the Southern Marches.
As I've written before, issuing city charters would be a crucial element of governing the Riverlands effectively. Giving Maidenpool, Lord Harroway's Town, Stoney Sept, Fairmarket, and Seagard a combination of economic and political self-governance would paradoxically allow King Robb to project royal authority more effectively - especially when it comes to generating revenue and manpower and enforcement of economic regulations.
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grendelsmom · 1 year
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One thing I'll never forgive the got costuming design department is that Vale is peak medieval burgundian fashion coded (in my mind). I'm speaking fancy headdresses, head scarves, veiles! Fur trimmed dresses in bold colours and with dropping sleeves! Men in tights! Vale-wide fights about how short a gentleman's upper garment is allowed to be before... too much is exposed.
And instead we got weird flowy garments (they live on a mountain range, it's cold up there, babes) and Sansa's weird raven goth era that didn't commit hard enough
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“…recorded in the annals of Westeros…though the wildlings of the mountains still tell tales of a “fire witch” who once dwelled in a hidden vale far from any road or village. One of the most savage of the mountain clan came to worship her, the storytellers say; youths would prove their courage by bringing gifts to her, and were only accounted men when they returned with burns to show that they had faced the dragon woman in her lair.”
“Munkun sets down the name of this unlikely dragonrider as Nettles.”
Excerpts from: Fire and Blood, GRRM
“Every clan in the Mountains of the Moon feared the Burned Men, who mortified their flesh with fire to prove their courage and (the others said) roasted babies at their feasts.”
Excerpt from: A Game of Thrones, GRRM
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slymreddwyne · 1 month
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Was thinking about the idea of an au where Stannis fostered at the Eyrie instead of Robert, and I think having Ned around and being away from the brother to whom he is constantly compared would have done wonders for his Middle Child Syndrome.
And Ned would know how much Robert sucks by hearing it from Stannis, so when he finds out Lyanna's engaged to that guy he's like "Yeah I'll help smuggle you to Braavos or some shit lil sis". Rhaegar would never have had the chance to get near her.
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zae5 · 9 months
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The Arryns of the Vale
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catofoldstones · 5 months
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Please add any theories you have in the notes. Also, please reblog for a larger sample size.
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sayruq · 1 year
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I find it interesting that GRRM decided that two different times in history, both the Vale and Dorne were kept out of life changing events. First there was the Great spring sickness where only vale and Dorne were kept safe and quarantined while the other kingdoms suffered. And then during the war of five kings, vale and dorne remained neutral while everyone else was fighting someone. Is that meant to be a coincidence or is Martin wanting to make a connection between them?
It's probably done on purpose. The War of the Five Kings was written first, then GRRM went back and added in the Great Spring Sickness because GRRM loves his rule of 3. Either things come in threes or they come in twos with the third time diverging.
Aegon and his sisters, Dany's 3 dragons, 3 Baratheon Kings, 3 Martell siblings, 3 Lannister siblings, 3 Starks who died before and during Robert's Rebellion, etc but there's also
2 Martell-Targaryen marriages (1 successful, 1 disastrous, 1 more potential marriage between Aegon and Arianne that could go either way),
two Starks going south to join a civil war (Ned Stark joining Robert's Rebellion with his side winning, Robb fighting the Lannisters ending with his death, which means the Northern army is going to leave the North for a third and last time this time ending with a Northern victory. I don't think Cregan Stark really counts as Rhaenyra was dead while Ned and Robb went south as the war was ramping up),
and 2 plans by sacrifice a child with royal blood (Edric Storm who escapes, Mance's baby who is hidden and sent away, which means that when they decide to burn Shireen, they'll go through with it)
This tells me that if Dorne and the Vale were spared war and sickness, then the third time must be different. This is why Dorne and the Vale are going to be instrumental in 2 different concurrent wars: the War against the Others and the Dance of Dragons 2.0 between Aegon VI and Daenerys.
Both kingdoms have fresh armies eager for war. The Dornish army will join Aegon VI in TWOW and the Vale army will go to the North for Sansa Stark (who is Aegon's narrative twin. Seriously, go read ADWD and tell me Aegon doesn't follow the same narrative beats as Sansa's ASOS and AFFC chapters. The main difference is that Aegon was hidden as a baby, he has open supporters while Sansa's are still looking for her or waiting for an opportunity to step up -*ahem* Yohn Royce - and he is ahead of her rn because he's invading Westeros while Sansa is still in hiding).
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laurellerual · 1 year
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Random Randa sketches
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westerosiladies · 1 year
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game-of-style · 11 months
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Gowns for Queen Aemma Arryn - Atelier Couture ‘Shakespear in Love’
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mejcinta · 6 months
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I need scenes of Jeyne Arryn and Rhaena bitching about Daemon at breakfast.
Would also be super cool if they show us Jeyne educating Rhaena in politics because tbh Daemon and Rhaenyra SUCK at it.
It takes a level of brilliance, tolerance and political know-how to end up joining two warring houses the way Rhaena did when she, a Targaryen, married Garmund Hightower. Perhaps Jeyne informed this choice...or maybe not since Rhaena had little to gain from marrying a third Hightower son, and her previous marriage to Corbray wasn't popular with the Council as well). We'll never know.
But I love the idea of Jeyne being an inspiration to Rhaena and helping her look at things from a broader, open minded perspective.
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twoiafart · 1 year
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MAEGOR ARRIVES AT THE EYRIE Artwork by Daniel Alekow
In the Vale, Lord Allard Royce defeated the few supporters of Jonos Arryn, but when he demanded the release of Lord Ronnel, Jonos returned his elder brother via the Moon Door, from which he plummeted to his death. It was then up to Prince Maegor, flying on Balerion, the Black Dread—whom he had taken as his own mount after his father’s death—to sort out the mess. Maegor forced the remaining garrison to surrender by throwing Jonos out the Moon Door in turn, then the garrison were all hanged at Maegor’s command. Hubert Arryn, a cousin of Jonos and Ronnel, succeeded to the rule of the Vale.
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