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crusherthedoctor · 2 months

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"Mario never undergone a drastic redesign for plots"

I mean...the proportional change between the SNES era and N64 era for Mario is massive, and design again changed a lot for Early GC era. And less said of the 1981-85 designs the better

Or hell, Bomberman doing whatever the fuck until Super Bomberman 4

https://twitter.com/a_kinopio/status/1243785430299865088?s=20

Sonic also very much HAD gradual design changes between 1991-7...it's just that the general public didn't give a shit. We go from this tubbiness

To long legs and hair mcbrow here. Hoshino did Sonic CD and R 2D art, and the diff between that and here is still indicating an overall evolution. Only Amy and Eggman drastically changed, which for the former I'm glad. Better than being a literal girl Sonic clone. The rest are just continuing a trend then adding iris color

But really I feel Sonic Team did the redesigns to welcome a new era, given how Japan unironically forgot about Sonic. It's jarring- if you ignore 6-7 years of the franchise, but also distinctively full of much needed energy given the crap 1995-7 period.

Similarly I feel we're missing cultural context; both the US and Japan had a problem with associating design with specific tone, so you ended up with typecasted designs. Sonic despite having attitude and games like 3K WAS associated to being a cutesy generic mascot inferior to Hello Kitty in Japan, which is not a good thing. Almost all noncanon manga further just divorced itself from actual game tone to be a parody or cutesy manga, which both Naka and Oshima didn't like, same for early Sega Harmony Calendar art.

The US market had a forced redesign that lasted till 1994 that while ass, unfortunately just lended to the idea of not accepting a design as is, regardless of tone. So Sonic Team gave in to that for Adventure, which a competition was held in 1997 to see how it was recieved. Uekawa won ironically cuz he had the safest design, but took elements of Okano's art later to add flair and zaniness as it'd defeat the point otherwise

I feel Capcom had a similar problem with Megaman: they didn't feel comfortable with solely using the same design for bigger stories, so they opted for the more adult X spinoffs, and then similarly did the same for Legends and Battle Network (ironically I feel this backfired). Even Ruby Spears attempted to be faithful for their show pilot, but test audiences didn't like it, so we got a mediocre jocked up muscle Mega Man. While in Japan the anime OVAs were very cutesy and basic, despite games being more action oriented

It's hard to say if this issue disappeared now, and I feel it's revisionism to say "oh, if the redesigns didn't happen, no one would be mad" cuz the truth is...Sonic would die if he didn't change harder

I feel both ignoring every middle design and just lumping Sonic as "Classic" "Modern" is a very stupid thing as both are fucking subjective and tempermental terms. Adventure isn't "modern", and anything with sentimental value and nostalgia is "classic". Heroes is fucking over 20 years old, and can be considered one to some, as unpopular of an opinion that is. Sonic Team didn't have eras awkwardly like that in the 10th Anniversary book, and even said "Sonic will continue changing", but after 10 more years of the fandom, original creatives outside Iizuka leaving, and game reviewers destroying nuance and history, they forcibly had to split him like so for Generations. I see the same fan mentality outside Sonic for Golden Age era cartoons, it's maddening. Just look at Looney Tunes fans on how they treat Daffy, it's the same shit

Sorry for ranting, but I hate when history and evolution are ignored just to make strawmanned points when it boils down to "wishful revisionism under MY misnostalgia/control". I saw someone make an SA1 mod to make stages "More classic" with checker spam when not only is that term bullshit, Sega and Okano literally showed us concept art of Adventure stages before the char designs tweaks, and it's the exact same texture and bg prop set as final. That is maddening

I'm tired of it

At the risk of being blunt, I'm aware of all that. I assure you that I could never forget American the Assface and Ivo No-Eyes no matter how much I'd prefer to.

As for Mario, his earliest designs had the excuse of it not being fully set in stone yet, and with the N64 era onward, they generally only involved slight proportion changes or subtle details in the clothing and what have you... much like Sonic in the years between 91 and 97, American Assface and other questionable SoA decisions notwithstanding. The point is, Mario wasn't redesigned for the explicit purpose of seeming like a more mature bing bing wahoo man. :P Neither was Kirby, who I used for reference due to his reputation of fighting eldritch abominations and occasional dark subtext despite resembling a pink blob with stubs for arms.

Finally, I can't speak for how others choose to use the terms, but I use Classic and Modern for simple convenience. I agree that there should never have been an official line in the sand between the two, at least outside of Generations' context, but this is what the franchise has taught us to do at this point. That's the ugly truth, I'm afraid. As is the ugly truth that the vocal, dramatic shift to the Adventure designs and style - regardless of intent, regardless of justification, regardless of the gradual alterations and differences between artists in the years beforehand, regardless of every angle of relevant context - still brought on one of the single most notorious divides in a fandom full of them, up there with the debut of SatAM. We can debate all day as to whether it was fair or not, but the divide happened all the same.

I'm not a Classic-only purist. SA1 is one of my favourite games in the series, and I love various other Modern titles. And to stress once more, I like the Modern character designs and have no personal beef with them whatsoever. But I can't ignore these things in an age where Adventure era rose-tinted goggles are at an all time high, and while it's true that not everything is straightforward, that goes both ways in cases like this.

#Crusher's Asks #Opinion #Sonic the Hedgehog #Sonic Character Designs

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ninjapotatohead · 10 months

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https://vc.sega.jp/vc_sonic/

From these introductions, the official sonic jam book, and even Oshima's mention, Eggman is a dangerous old man who doesn't know right or wrong and believes himself to be the right person. Because the recognition is rooted in Japanese fans I'm confused when I read that Western Eggmen like you are just evil. Eggman was thought to have a character similar to that of a lovable villain, in contrast to the main character Baikinman in Anpanman (a very popular hero in Japan). And the characterization of Eggman in Sonic x may seem like a one-sided characterization of TMS, but that is the character image that Yuji Naka and others thought of the Sonic Team at the time... was done) Also, Naoto Oshima said that Eggman is a mecha fetish that emphasizes functional beauty.

Does the term "narcissism" just mean nothing, or something?

Also, Sonic X is hardly a reputable reference for characterization because a LOT of concepts in Sonic X have been outdated for literal decades now.

#spud's inbox #sonic series #dr eggman

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kinopioa · 3 months

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Sonic OVA thoughts (Part 1)

OVA is generally beloved by the fandom as a cool piece of Sonic media in the mid 90s. What gets me is how different it was compared to typical none canon Japan Sonic media at the time

For the follow up we have; -The 1992-94 Shogakukan Nicky manga of a timid kid

-The 1992 Sonic 2 promo manga, done by some of the artists in the previous Shogakukan Manga

-199?-1995 Harmony magazine exclusive art

-The 1994 TMS animated short featuring Eggman impersonating as Sonic out of jealousy

All of these typically depict Sonic (unless drawn by Oshima) as kiddier or cutesy, typically missing his attitude, or in the case of Nicky, is completely off base. This was even noted by Naka in development of Sonic Adventure, hence the need for the 1997 Project Sonic competition to reinvigorate edge and attitude

So OVA NOT being cutsey weirdly stands out for the period*

*While Junio/Toei's work for CD also isn't cutesy, that's core from games, not alt media, despite design difference

How does OVA stand out? Well...the prior context might've been why it didn't get to accomplish its goals

The OVA was initially rental tape only available between Jan 1996-March 1996, not getting a formal home release until May 1996. This is already odd, given rumors of it being intended to be a TV series but scrapped. The OVA was split into 2 parts originally, the first half focusing on going to the Land of the Darkness and fighting Mecha Robotnik, the latter focusing on Metal Sonic and the polar ice caps. The base story is concieved by Mayori Sekijima then scripted by Masashi Kubota, both having done full series by that point. Given 1997 Naka admitted that people in Japan didn't really know Sonic by that point (which was why Jam was made alongside lack of Sonic Saturn rep)...I have a feeling this wasn't that popular, despite ads

Anyway, the movie itself

We start with a dark room with monitors and a motionless floating mech of Metal Sonic. Eggman proclaims that he needs Sonic's DNA (more loosely called lifeforce essence here) to complete Hyper Metal Sonic. Note: Hyper Metal Sonic references the new mold he had for Chaotix in games!

We then cut to aesthetic landscape expanses of the Land of the Sky. It helps give us a picture of their world. Refreshingly, not just checker spam that 2nd game devs randomly did a lot despite Sonic Team doing other types of locales. We also see the Old Man Owl flying a spluttering ship, more on that later...

We end up at Sonic's island, composing of wrecked airplanes, buses-i-is that a Star Wars ship!? Pretty interesting, I wonder if they'll tell us where it came from-

But we get interrupted with Tails showing Sonic his newest invention to try out. Sonic isn't interested, so Tails goes out to try it for himself, splashing Sonic accidentally

Note: Tails does note Sonic can't swim here

We hear Tails calling for help soon after, which Sonic coldly ignores. This is something that gets me for this feature, Sonic has attitude, but is weirdly also dismissive of his friends that already run contradictory to games at the time. Even Tails screaming bloody murder doesn't do much as Sonic loudly tells him to shut up (Eng memes aside), only changing his mind when he see the old Owl Man crash through where Sonic was

Tails checks on the blue blur to see if he's ok, which Sonic is. He notes that they should help the Old Man, but Sonic again tells him he's not interested, flat out out saying "hey, you can fly bitch, you do it!", to which Tails calls him out, then takes it upon himself to save the old man. While at first it goes well thanks to surfing, both soon realize they'll crash into the cliffside, to which he screams. At that point Sonic realizes "oh, they might die", then saves them

Speaking of, they seemingly know of this guy before this event. Who is he? How'd they meet? We'll never know!

Afterwards, Owl Man is in shock, which Sonic gets a Crabmeat (wouldn't that still have a Flicky given this period?) to pinch him, bringing him back to his senses, then rambling about how he was an expert racer in his day that got chicks. Tails reminds him that he had something important to say, and we learn that the President wants Sonic due to an emergency. Sonic and Tails then have the aesthetic plane sequence and head out, leaving the old man to watch over Sonic's...well, wreckage is more apt

We have more aesthetic shots showing the capital city of the Land of the Sky, though there's a weird lack of people here... Inside it's revealed Eggman has taken over, shooting Sonic/Tails, and having the President and his daughter held as hostage. We-

Wait, this landmass is South Island!? What's with none canon Sonic media spamming South Island, when mainline games went to different areas

Seriously, most of the STI and Aspect Ltd 8 bit games do this unlike Sonic Team. Even Fighters by Sega AM2 did. Why? Sonic is noted to exploring other locales, likewise Eggman isn't too stationary if a plan fails one spot. It's just...why?

Also epic sub typo

Anyway, Eggman explains the history of the Land of the Sky and Darkness, and how they are 2 split halves. This bores everyone, so he demands Sonic to help him stop a generator in Eggmanland that's out of control, thanks to an upsurper called Mecha Robotnik (Black Robotnik in Japan). If it isn't stopped, the generator would destroy the Land of the Darkness, which would in turn destroy the Land of the Sky. Everyone again is bored, flat out sleeping, so he stresses that someone needs to bypass his taken traps and stop the generator. Sonic dismisses it, despite Sarah and the President begging, as he believes Eggman to be lying, which takes Tails to convince him to just do it. Sonic overall is pretty unhelpful here honestly. Eggman gives Tails a navigator (which Sonic questions way too late if it's rigged AFTER they fly out), and the plot's moving...

Oh nah, we just have Eggman and Sarah playing fighting games

Contrary to popular belief, this is not a Sonic the Fighters ref. This OVA came out well before that arcade game was out

Ignoring filler, everyone's pretty lax about the kidnapping here. Sarah even threatens to stop being hostage, which...doesn't make sense. She's surrounded by a bunch of robots. We then have a mecha crash in and open its hatch, so we now know Eggman's up to something (which was obvious)

Back to Sonic/Tails

Come to think of it, this all implies Sonic never fought Eggman there before. Which gives interesting implications of Eggman only causing trouble in the Land of the Sky, then retreating after failure to Sonic

Anyway, they crash land due to turbulence, and set out on a path straight to Eggmanland

We have a montage of Sonic going through the various landscapes, with him noting how many robots (no Flickies, huh) and traps there are. Tails assures that it is the quickest path, leading directly to a warp zone (?), and the two wound up in E 44th St. in an ancient city

We don't have much explanation for this area, and Tails confirms this isn't Eggmanland yet. Sonic scours the skyscraper to get a better view on their location, and the two head towards Eggmanland, only to be stopped by...

Mecha Robotnik, who attacks and gives chase

Note, Sonic's unable to hurt him

The two dodge its attacks, hiding behind a bus to figure what to do. Sonic notes that they can't waste time fighting it, and Tails notes the direction they should go....

Only for Sonic to moronically alert Mecha where they are by taunting it. Side note: contrary to rumors, this was never censored in English

This Sonic is stupid, I'm sorry. He lacks tact Game Sonic would have

So anyway, the two are chased through the highway, reaching by a broken edge near the water. Mecha shoots by their feet, causing them to fall, and the two take advantage of the obscurity to try to trick Mecha Robotnik him into thinking they fell fully and drowned. But Mecha isn't stupid, so they get further chased. Mecha Robotnik soon shifts to shooting glue from its ass

Due to a lightning shock, Tails gets scared and freezes, which gets him trapped. Before Sonic can save him, Mecha Robotnik shoots several missiles that home in on the hedgehog, with several causing explosions throughout the city as Sonic runs away. This alerts...

Knuckles? So Angel Island doesn't exist? Just unexplained like Triple Trouble I guess...

I swear these noncanon devs never legit played Sonic outside Sonic 1-

Rant aside

While it seems hopeless for Tails, it turns out that Sonic hitched a ride on one of the missiles, redirecting it to hit Mecha Robotnik

It's a clean shot, but the blast weakens the structural integrity of the area. Worse, Sonic lands on the sticky glue from earlier, and the collapsing ground floods from the lake nearby. Mecha Robotnik wobbles back, about to shoot him, but right at the last second, Knuckles flies in to stop it, then frees Tails

Tails unfortunately can't fly to Sonic as his tails are stuck and unable to spin for approximately 10 seconds before it becomes a literal none issue

While Tails reaches the drowning hedgehog and tries to pull him out, Knux is distracting Mecha Eggman. Unfortunately he gets stuck in glue as well

Mecha, running out of bullets, decides to crush the echidna. Tails finally manages to free Sonic

Who then-

Hey, his right arm wasn't hit hit by the missile! Don't bullshit suddenly being able to cut through it

Now fully disarmed (kicks self), Mecha makes a retreat. Thanks to somehow being able to fly, Knux gets Sonic close enough to hurl him at the flying mech, leading to Mecha getting skewered and split

Sonic and co leave, revealing Eggman and Sarah in the wreckage. The doctor fumes about how Eggmanland hosts something far worse than Mecha, which Sarah calls BS

Cutting to another scene, Sonic thanks Knux, with Tails mentioning this

Yeah you guys really need a TV series to flesh this out, there are too many unexplained points for char introductions given how different this is to games, yet casually act like this is status quo. Also why is Sonic the only one shaded there?

Sonic and co realize the sun is setting, meaning that time is almost up before the generator explodes. So they head out, leaving Knux to do his own thing...for about 5 seconds

Knux joins the two, defying gravity while Sonic constantly has to deal with awkward terrain. Given he's a dick, eh

This isn't even an animation error, even bios for this OVA says he flies and not glides for some dumb reason. He's incorrectly referred directly as a mole in dub bios as well (like cuz Harimogura out of context is directly translated as "spiky mole")

But fans like his hat, so Knux is apparently excused for unexplained adaptation changes

That wraps up part 1 cuz of image limit, my thoughts

-Sonic is too douchey and dumb personality wise. His feats mask that for a lot of fans, but I don't buy it. Tails and Knux are alright though, especially with Tails copying Sonic's poses at bits, astraphobia, and his tech prowess, but Knux is just there. Eggman's good though

-The plot is messy. They needed to flesh out char origins for some, and the city

-This won't be fixed, but despite the expanse landscape, there's no fauna or other people shown. Feels weirdly empty

-I'm watching the Bandai Sub version. Eng dub there aren't major changes to plot though, and the translation error is strictly for DVD bios

-Not a fan of South Island being focus for Capital. It weirdly shrinks the world. Insert rant of how everyone is ignoring Sonic Team themselves changing locales

It's aesthetic and fun, but broken and poorly paced when looking past that. I can't fault the Eng dub

@randomthefox @darklightheart @beevean

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maguro13-2 · 3 months

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BALAN WONDERWORLD DAY (REMAKE Inspired by Pluto Nash Day)

Yuji Naka : Fellow Sega representatives. As you can see that we decided to make a game with a new character made by Naoto Oshima, by the people of JRPG and Manga company Square Enix. But hey, we are all in this together for the new video game that I produced to be the successor to Nights. Well, At least it's 2021...And it means we're going to have Balan Wonderworld released in the year 2021, am I right fellas?

Sonic : [to Nights] A new game made for a company of JRPGS and Mangas, (scoffs) That's a random idea since Sonic 06, and besides. What's the worst thing that could happened?

"FRIDAY, MARCH 26, 2021."

[Cloud walks out of the studio surrounded by Balan cutouts]

Balan Developer : Did you enjoy the new game, sir?

[Cloud furiously punches the developer]

"LATER THAT DAY..."

[SQUAR ENIX HEADQUATERS - JAPAN]

[Newspaper : SALES OF BALAN BLOWS AS YUJI NAKA QUITS SQUARE ENIX FOR LIFE]

Square Enix Employee 1 : (after reading newspaper) Oh, dear lord! Have mercy on me! (faints)

(a melee breaks out. a couple of employees and characters including Disney and Marvel assaulted the Balan cutouts.)

Square Enix Employee 2 : Delete! Delete!

(another employee shreds the documents while another group fights)

Edward Elric : (set in a fiery aura) I'M ON FIRE!!!

( A couple more employees and characters vandalize the vending machine. A group of three men; Axel, Roy, and Sephiroth, drinking poisoned Kool-Aid before suffocating. A group of the main characters of Soul Eater are killed by Death the Kid before turning the gun on himself, killing himself)

Liz Thompson : Goodbye, cruel world. (turning the gun on herself, killing herself)

Patty Thompson : Goodbye, sweet life. (turning the gun on herself, killing herself)

(cut to the bathroom where a Janitor walks in on an employee hanging himself while Winry and Riza were fighting)

Janitor : Oh my Goodness! This is terrble!

(cuts to King Bradely's office)

Square Enix Employee 3 : I got the weekend's sales numbers of Balan Wonderworld, sir.

(Bradley gets up, runs on table and jumps out of the window from the top floor and laughs)

(a limo pulls up to the Square Enix Headquaters)

Barret : Who wants to see when Barret works?

Children : Me! Me! I do! I do!

(Bradley crashes through the limo, scaring the children)

Barret : HOLY SMOKES!

Announcer : The publishers of SEGA and Square Enix returns from Yuji Naka's Balan Wonderworld claimed over many lives. In 2022, the United States congress memorialized the terrible tragedy in Japan by establishing March 26 as Balan Wonderworld Day.

(Screen shows Balan's face with the words "Never Forget. 3-26-21". It is revealed that Balan and the group were all watching a video)

Balan : So, guys. What do you think?

Sonic : That sketch looked funny and you know it!

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kellodrawsalot · 2 years

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So can we stop saying Balan wonderworld was ruined because Square Enix was mean to poor Yuji Naka ? Cause the man seems to even blame Sonic artist Naoto Oshima for the failure of the game,( when Naoto's character designs are the Best PART. ) Neither is he Square Enix. There is definitely more to the story but Yuji Naka being 100 the victim and all innocent seems to be less likely.

#yuji naka #sonic the hedgehog #Balan wonderworld

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sofibeth · 11 months

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Yuji Naka in jail and Naoto Oshima back ar Sonic is certainly a combination right now.

#sonic superstars

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blazehedgehog · 2 years

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Soooooo, Yuji Naka unfollowed Naoto Oshima on Twitter and he cites the Balan Wonderworld thread as an example that Naoto does't care about making good games whenever someone tags Naoto in a thank you comment

Honestly between this and Yuji Naka straight up painting Naoto Ohshima out of a photo of the NiGHTS development team, it lends credence to that theory I heard years ago.

Basically, though this has never been confirmed, I'd heard that Naoto Ohshima left Sonic Team not long after the release of Sonic Adventure, largely due to a disagreement on which direction to take Sonic Adventure 2. Whatever he was proposing, somebody at Sonic Team did not want to hear it, and it lead to an argument heated enough that it supposedly caused him to leave the company.

Ohshima was listed in the credits for the original Sonic Adventure in several places. He helped create CGI videos, for instance, and he was listed as a "story event coordinator" (meaning he probably helped direct the in-engine cutscenes).

Then, three years later, Ohshima's name was erased from the credits for the release of Sonic Adventure DX.

Maybe that wasn't just an oversight.

#questions #Anonymous #naoto ohshima #yuji naka #sonic adventure #NiGHTS

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beevean · 2 years

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I don’t think it’s right to beg sega or make a petition to get Flynn fired ‘cause those never work, but in all honesty I’d rather have him leave because of him realizing he doesn’t own the franchise and can’t just do anything he wants.

Maybe SOJ and especially Sonic Team and even Oshima and Naka should take a look at archie to see how they like seeing their mascot treat his game friends like shit, their main female lead sidelined in favor of a canon foreigner who leeched said heroine’s role, their main team/trio(team sonic) not even be an established team like the rest who were confirmed in the comic(Rose, Dark, Chaotix, Babylon), and just how long this mess went on. Also check out IDW.

Nah, petitions are just annoying. Remember "Rally4Sally"? Yeah.

There are three reasons Flynn could leave that I can think of:

he gets burned out and leaves. Likely, considering he's sticking his fingers everywhere now. Variation: what you said, Flynn much prefers writing for IDW because he has almost complete charte blanche compared to writing for a game.

he gets cancelled for some reason. Probably the worst outcome, nobody deserves Twitter sic'd on them.

the quality of his writing spirals so further down that he starts to lose fans, and he either retires like Pontaff or he gets fired by SEGA. Highly unlikely, considering how loyal his fans are.

(I'm not sure if he has a contract, and in case, whether it expires)

I'm also skeptical on Iizuka saying that he read IDW and liked it, because Iizuka didn't read the original IDW, he read a translation of IDW. Who knows how different the translation is? They could have trimmed down Sonic's speeches, considering how short Japanese sentences tend to be. They could have made Sonic nicer, which has happened. Sure, the plot beats are the same, Sonic letting Metal go will never not be a dumbass scene, but unless Iizuka can read English much better than he can speak it, he can only judge half of Flynn's abilities. (for example: I always liked the Harry Potter series including the plots, but I never knew that JKR liked to use "ejaculated" as a verb of utterance, because I never read the original books, only a translation, and a shoddy one at that. I can't judge JKR's writing properly)

To be fair, I'm not even sure if SEGA is aware of Archie Sonic. That comic was just a 20 year long fanfiction, from what I've read lmao

#sonic the hedgehog #anti ian flynn

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sonicxyoshi97 · 3 months

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Sonic & Yoshi/Mickey Mouse

Sonic & Yoshi As Mickey Mouse

Amy & Birdo As Minnie Mouse

Tails & Netty As Donald Duck

Blaze & Pink Yoshi As Daisy Duck

Wips (Sonic Colors) As Huey, Dewey & Louie (They Have Speech)

Knuckles & Plessie As Goofy

Rouge As Clarabelle Cow

Vector & Koopa Troopa As Horace Horsecollar

Ben Muttski & Poochy As Pluto

Feel & Mr. Game & Watch As Oswald

Zavok & Bowser As Peg Leg Pete

Waluigi As Mortimer Mouse

Uncle Chuck As Scrooge McDuck

Ray & Mighty As Chip And Dale

Professor Elvin Gadd As Ludwig Von Drake

Rotom Pokédex As Toodles

Pac-Man As Felix The Cat

Mario As Popeye

Mega Man As Astro Boy

Crash Bandicoot As Bugs Bunny

Spyro As Spike (My Little Pony)

Bean, Pin & Bin (Dynamite Dux) As Woody Woodpecker

Spongebob As Naranjito (FIFA World Cup 1982)

Fox McCloud As Rigby (Regular Show)

Bub & Bob As Gumball & Darwin

Geno As Pinocchio

Amigo (Samba Do Amigo) As Panchito

Brasonic As Jose

Hat Kid (A Hat In Time) As Little Dot

Boyfriend (Friday Night Funkin) As Senninha

Ty The Tasmanian Tiger As Casper The Ghost

Boyfriend (Friday Night Funkin) As Senninha

Croc As Horacio (Monica Gangs)

Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) As Betty Boop

Diddy Kong As Bosko (Looney Tunes)

Parappa As Pooch The Pug

Keroppi (Hello Kitty) As Flip The Frog

Flapjack (The Marvelous Misadventures Of Flapjack) As Juliano Enrico (Jorel's Brother)

Red (Angry Birds) As Garfield

Klonoa As Foxy (Looney Tunes)

Banjo (Banjo-Kazooie) As Yogi Bear

Blinx The Cat As The Cat In The Hat

Bentley Bear (Cystal Castles) As Cubby Bear

Yuji Naka, Naoto Oshima & Shigeru Miyamoto As Walt Disney

#sonic #yoshi #mickey mouse

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lucasa94 · 1 year

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Sonic the Hedgehog

Ocupação: Personagem

Resumo: Sonic the Hedgehog é uma série de jogos e uma franquia multimídia japonesa criada pelo Sonic Team e produzida pela Sega. A franquia segue Sonic, cuja vida pacífica é sempre interrompida pelo antagonista principal da série, Dr. Eggman.

Ano de lançamento: 1991

Criadores: Yuji Naka, Takashi Iizuka, Naoto Oshima, Shigeru Miyamoto, Masato Nakamura.

Opinião: Joguei infelizmente mais na casa de outras pessoas que tinham o jogo do que em minha casa, consegui felizmente jogar graças a emuladores e me apaixonei pela história dos games e jogabilidade frenética.

#sega sonic #sega #nostalgia #Spotify

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sulan1809 · 1 year

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Balan Wonderworld - Expectativa: Sucesso, Realidade: FLOP

Balan Wonderworld estreou em diversas plataformas em 2021, teria potencial para se transformar em um sucesso, uma vez que Yuji Naka, um dos criadores de Sonic the Hedgehog, estava coordenando o projeto. Embora o caprichoso projeto do criador de Sonic e Nights tivesse visuais esplendorosos, ele acabou por se tornar um dos maiores flops dos games. A razão?! O criador de Sonic acusou a softhouse de Final Fantasy e Dragon Quest de apressar o desenvolvimento de Balan Wonderworld... Segundo Naka, a Arzest e a Square Enix não dão a mínima nem para os games, tampouco para os fãs... Estaria a S.E. indo pelo mesmo caminho que a Konami?!

No Twitter, o criador de Sonic fez a seguinte declaração:

“Cerca de meio ano antes do lançamento do Balan Wonder World, uma ordem de serviço foi emitida para me remover do cargo de diretor do Balan Wonder World, então entrei com uma ação contra a Square Enix no tribunal. Eu gostaria de falar sobre o fato de que o julgamento acabou e a ordem de negócios perdeu seu efeito neste momento”.

“Eu acredito que se eles não se importam com jogos nem com seus fãs, a Square Enix é uma má companhia. Segundo documentos oficiais, a causa do meu afastamento do cargo de Diretor do Balan Wonderworld se deve a dois pontos principais. Esta decisão foi realizada pelo Produtor, Parceiro Promocional, Diretor de Som, Diretor de Projeto e Recursos Humanos.“

“Um ponto foi quando um YouTuber deveria apresentar e publicar a partitura da música do jogo para fins promocionais, tivemos problemas porque acreditávamos que era estranho que um ghostwriter escrevesse uma música arranjada para um novo jogo, então afirmamos que a música original deve ser usada em vez de um arranjo.“

“Além disso, o relacionamento comercial com a Arzest se desfez devido aos meus comentários sobre a Arzest enviar a compilação final sem corrigir bugs, embora houvesse problemas durante o desenvolvimento, e eu estava pressionando por mais polimento. Depois disso, Oshima falou com o produtor, Fujimoto, sobre isso.“

“O segundo ponto é que Oshima escreveu em um e-mail para Fujimoto dizendo: “Reuni a equipe de desenvolvimento e os informei sobre o adiamento da fase de teste do desenvolvimento. [Oshima disse] ‘Esta decisão foi tomada pelo produtor Fujimoto. Vamos fazer o nosso melhor pelo Sr. Fujimoto.' A equipe aplaudiu e aplaudiu. Isso foi totalmente inesperado e ficamos muito emocionados. A equipe, que recentemente estava bastante abatida, foi imediatamente revitalizada. Muito obrigado. Toda a equipe fará o possível.'” “

“Não tenho nada a ver com o cronograma de desenvolvimento porque ele é criado pelo produtor, não por mim (o diretor). Esses prazos apertados são decididos pelo produtor. Algo não parecia muito certo.“

“Não acredito que seja uma boa ideia lançar um game inteiramente original, apenas para utilizar arranjos. Acredito que a música original é o que atrai as pessoas e as faz desejar mais. Acredito que um bom game se faz trabalhando duro até o final, e só então esperando que os torcedores gostem. Acho estranho retirar o Diretor que comenta o desenvolvimento sem ter sido consultado sobre suas opiniões, e depois não permitir que ele se envolva em qualquer título por falta de tempo.“

“Fui proibido de compartilhar e curtir postagens em sites de mídia social e, portanto, não acredito que a Square Enix esteja cuidando bem de seus fãs. Houve tantos comentários gentis e fanarts maravilhosas para Balan Wonderworld, e lamento sinceramente não poder apoiá-lo. Também sinto muito pelos fãs que compraram e apoiaram Balan Wonderworld. Seguindo em frente, posso finalmente responder a você se você me mencionar ou me marcar nas redes sociais.“

“Acho que é totalmente justo pedir melhorias no game, já que éramos a equipe que fazia o game, e se não pudéssemos fazer isso, deveríamos pelo menos ter podido discutir, mas parece que não poderíamos nem fazer isso. Eu realmente não acredito que eles [Square Enix] se importam em apoiar o game.“

“Por exemplo, em Sonic the Hedgehog, duas semanas antes de ir para o ouro, mudamos a mecânica onde se você tivesse um único anel, você não morreria. Até o final, ainda tentamos melhorar o jogo e espero que todos ainda gostem desses games hoje.“

“Os criadores de jogos devem melhorar seus jogos até o fim, e acredito que é errado impedi-los de cumprir esse objetivo. Pedi ao meu advogado para negociar com nossos parceiros de negócios para pelo menos me permitir abordar questões sobre o desenvolvimento de Balan Wonderworld até o final, mas eles ignoraram meus pedidos, ent��o decidi entrar com uma ação no tribunal.“

“É por isso que Balan Wonderworld recebeu todas as críticas e comentários que todos vocês conhecem bem. É uma pena que um projeto que eu havia liderado desde o início acabasse assim.“

“Pessoalmente, acredito que é uma verdadeira vergonha que Balan Wonderworld tenha sido lançado no estado em que estava. Eu queria mostrar ao mundo um game de ação em sua devida luz. Portanto, acredito que a Square Enix e a Arzest são empresas que não se importam com games nem com seus fãs.“

#Balan Wonderworld

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kreston-kreature · 2 years

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Funny Sonic The Hedgehog facts I’ve learned after scouring the wiki (P.1)

(I’ve never watched anything sonic related I just think he’s neat)

Character descriptors

He’s had a myriad of nicknames such as, Blue Buffoon, Blue Rat, Faker, and my personal favorite-Pin cushion.

Sonic not only isn’t a fan of romance, but has an apparent dislike for Amy.

More quotes from his dislike list; The word “slow”, insults directed at his speed, slowness, someone claiming to be faster than him, tears, being impersonated and thought to have turned evil (this is rlly specific??), egg man polluting nature, strong winds (again ???)

Some skills include; breakdancing; vehicle intuition; swordsmanship; grinding.

My favorite attacks from the listed moves: Wimpy Punch, Wall shuffle, Windmill

Creation and Early Drafts

Basically in the 1990s Sega wanted a game involving a company mascot. They wanted it to rival Nintendo’s Mario and it to be as iconic as Micky Mouse. So R&D submitted a bunch of ideas like a wolf, bulldog, warrior character, and a robot.

Speed being a big thing in the game was important because Yuji Naka was doing Mario Bros.’s World 1-1 speed runs and felt inspired. So the focus switched only to fast creatures (one concept was of a rabbit who could grab stuff with prehensile ears. It was deemed to complicated and scrapped)

Later Sega changed tunes and started working on concepts based on animals that could roll into a ball for an attack move. After asking locals opinions at a state park, Naoto Oshima found the hedgehog to be the favorite.

Sonic was originally named Mister Hedgehog.

English speaking fans mistranslated his notes and thought it was “Mister Needlemouse” until Yuji Naka corrected the misinformation in Jan. 2021

In the early designs of his debut game, sonic was originally colored teal, then later a light blue. Then it was changed to a darker blue so he would stand out against specific backgrounds, along with matching the Sega logo

According to Oshima, sonic was designed by putting Felix The Cat’s head on Micky Mouse’s body. His boots were based of the Bad album cover, and the white/red scheme was based on Santa.

His personality was inspired by Bill Clinton.

Sonic was created without being able to swim because Naka did not believe hedgehogs could do so.

#sonic the hedgehog #facts #it’s 1am I gotta sleep now #more tomorrow tho

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maguro13-2 · 4 months

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Darkness Reborn ~ Origins of the Ink Demon Final Chapter Pt. 17 (2/2) ~

[In the City - Masaru Setsumaru, Tadashi Kinukawa]

Quatre : So, umm...I'm suggesting that you are the daughter of that NPC, Principal Tyrell. And they say that you are an NPC, correct?

Rico Tyrell : Created within Sonic Team's data, I was the first female Hunter and first female Humarl, I thought that the HUmarl was supposed to be in the early stages, but sadly I was the only Humarl and I held captive by Dark Falz's power when he manage to cause the explosion on Planet Ragol after what he did to Flowen, Pioneer 1, and including me. I thought that I was gonna be the hero of my own story, but Sonic Team rejected it and I was still a HUmarl but it's all good that I was modded as an playable characters thanks to PSO players that used play Phantasy Star Online before the original servers was shut down before the Dreamcast met it's fate and Sega would be going out of the hardware business. Can't say that how does one company meet it's failure and beginning to cope with it.

Quatre : Yeah, that happens sometimes. But it's not my concern that officials of Sega forced Sonic Team to shut down the original servers and led players to create the private servers. They weren't planning on shutting down PSO, they wanted to get rid of PSO. No wonder they're so eager shutting the original servers down. Heck, even in the 21st century, We usually do know or don't know PSO. Sonic Team had that opportunity when Yuji Naka and Naoto Oshima was at the top of their game in the 90s, bringing Sonic, bringing Nights, bringing Phantasy Star at it's finest and everything else that is part of Sonic Team's legacy, From RPG classics of Phantasy Star to the world's fastest blue blur himself, Sonic the Hedgehog.

Rico Tyrell : True. Phantasy Star was the first Sonic Team Title made by Yuji Naka before the Blue Hedgehog himself. Phantasy Star and Sonic were different from Sonic Team. Time changes from the world of Sega itself, we had our fair shares with other developers like Game freak that created Pulseman and what about AM2 that gave birth to Dayotna and Shenmue.

Quatre : Luckily, if you don't know about that much, I bet Phantasy Star's first protag was a girl and she's a hottie, she has a brother named--

Heero Yuy : Enough! *GUNSHOT* Our time for talk is over, we can't wast any more of it and needed to complete the mission. It is our duty to protect Real World AU from the forces of true evil! I'm not letting anyone getting away with this!

Quatre : Okay then, I see your point. But what about the thing about the true intentions that Soul World may offer? About this incident of a hero named Maka Albarn was framed for a crime that she did not commit, a look alike of her named Inky Albarn is responsible for the attacks in Tokyo and...

Trowa : Hey, guys. I found a floating white light. I wonder what this. And I think it's coming closer to us.

Rico Tyrell : Umm, fellas? I would be asking questions about the incident in Tokyo, but that's the explanation on the the point of--IS THAT THE SOUL OF HEATHCLIFF FLOWEN!?!

Trowa : Wait, who's soul was it?

Heero & Rico : DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING WITH YOUR HANDS, YOU DOLT!

Trowa : Relax, it's only a Soul of your dead teacher. And besides, it's harmelss and would never even--

Shadow : Don't touch it!

[IDOLA ~ Have the Divine Blade - Hideaki Kobayashi]

*DBZ SFX : ENERGY POWERING*

Trowa : Oh man! Not good! I accidentally woke him up!

Rico Tyrell : I told you not to touch it! You didn't woke him up, you idiot! Your brought him back it to life be reviving it and now it's going to have legs! Do you realize what you've done!?

Trowa : Oh, big mistake.

*RUMBLING+OLGA FLOW ROARS*

"OLGA FLOW PHASE 2 : TRUE FORM OF HEATHCLIFF FLOWEN"

(the Battle begins)

Heero Yuy : The bastard's alive again! I knew that some ransom Idiot must've touched the Soul of Flowen!

Trowa : Well, sorry! That was minor a mistake, I promise that I would never touch anything again on purpose!

Quatre: We're gonna be scrambled eggs if we don't stop this guy! Oh no! He's beginning to walk on his own around the area and...what's he planning to do?

Rico Tyrell : Oh crap...Dodge! [the group avoids the attack]

Trowa : This guy's going nuts again! Are you sure this giant is the Flowen that you know!?

Rico Tyrell : Yes, he was! But eventually I realized that he died before me! We would completely expunge ourselves if any player that is an idiot!

Quatre : How would you know!?

Olga Flow/Flowen : (talks in mutant language)

Rico Tyrell : Sh*t! Get down!

*DBZ SFX : Energy Blast+Explosion*

All : WAAAAAAAH!!!

Rico Tyrell : He's doing the attacks, the same thing that Dark Falz did it once on the players.

Quatre : And trying to sink everyone including the facility into the seabed, and would be lost forever! We have to stop it at all costs!

Trowa : Somebody stop that mad man! That creature of a human is going crazy if he keeps that up! We need to simmer this thing down before it can cause anymore damage! This world's not big enough for the giant in the seabeds!

Wufei : It'll take us 10 seconds to beat this guy down! He looks very big and it can really pack a punch!

Heero Yuy : That's what you're thinking what I'm thinking!

Rico Tryell : I'll handle this one! [summons a Red sword] Red swords. You like em very much?

[the group shakes heads "yes]

Rico Tyrell : That's what I thought so. Hi-ya!

*DBZ/One Piece SFX : Sword slashing*

Olga Flow : [roars in pain]

Trowa : Yes! Red weapons is the one true weakness for the giant! Huh? [suddenly, his appearance changes into Flowen] Holy sh*t, guys! This giant just switch my body and I'm the man of a hunter who died of D-Cells! Not much of an old due who is ripped. At least, Heathcliff Flowen was the only character that is playable, if only one's soul isn't good enough for this kind of body.

*DBZ/One Piece SFX : SLASH!*

Trow : GWAAA-HAAAA!!! Ow, Rico! What's the big idea attacking me!?

Rico Tyrell : Oh great! even switching souls with Flowen can cause the player damage health due to switching appearances. Not one of Sonic Team's better ideas to come up with.

Trowa (as Heathcliff Flowen) : Hello! That sounds like a bad idea if we attack Olga Flow, the player's health points will be damaged. Pretty obvious, right?

Wufei : Not even a single hit to defeat this guy. He's kinda tricky. Otherwise, he might go berserk take one's soul at another awkward!

Trowa (as Heathcliff Flowen) : Awkward!

Quatre : How are you gonna get your soul back.

Trowa (as Heathcliff Flowen) : Easy! (scene flips) I had to do it with a red weapon and some Techinque points! Light is the power that is very equivalent to darkness. But hey, at least I got my body back!

Quatre : Look! He's dazed and he is worned out! Now's your chance Rico!

Wufei : NOW THIS MOTHERF*CKER DOWN!

Heero & Rico : Got it!

Heero Yuy : Sorry, Flowen! If you want to stop, then next time, try finding yourself to go with the freakin' flow!

*DBZ SFX : JUMPING HIGH*

Heero Yuy : HIYAAAAAAAAAHHH!

*DBZ SFX : SWORD KILL*

Olga Flow/Flowen : [talks in mutant language]

Heero Yuy : Timbeeeer!!!

*DBZ/One Piece SGX : Wall Hit/Crash*

Heero Yuy : May your soul rest in peace...

*DBZ SFX : Falling+Sword claning*

Heero Yuy : ...as a weapon by the way!

Trowa : That was anti-climatic.

Quatre : Phew! Looks like we stopped in time.

Wufei : That'll put him in his place.

Flowen : Rico...Is that you?

Rico : Flowen? You're...You're back!

~ Ninety-Seventh Scene : The Hunters of PSO Pt.2 ~

#mobile suit gundam #gundam wing #phantasy star #phantasy star online #bandai namco #sega #sonic team #studio sunrise #crossover #drama #dark comedy #horror #mystery #thriller #supernatural #dark fantasy #science fiction #adventure #action

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sonicfanj · 4 years

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I’m a big fan of AUs and the freedom that fans have to explore Sonic or any fandom in ways that diverge from the source material, but with AUs and more recent Sonic stuff being what a lot of new fans brought in from the movie will see, the possibility of providing false information is far to high if we are not careful. That SEGA also spreads misinformation only makes matter worse and it is the heart of this particular post.

One of the biggest misconceptions of Sonic that SEGA perpetrates both through retcons and from Sonic Generations onward is that Sonic before the Sonic Adventure (Adventure henceforth )rebranding back in 1998/1999 is that “Classic Sonic “ as he is dubbed these days is possessed of an age of around eleven and is even shorter than Sonic’s 1 meter/3′3″ height. The height can actually be sourced to a profile of Metal Sonic’s that lists him at around seventy something centimeters as well as Generations making him shorter to account for the difference in proportions. But the truth is, Sonic was always listed at 1 meter tall, both before and after the Adventure redesign.

[Character height chart for reference - http://info.sonicretro.org/images/9/99/Classic_character_heights.svg]

Age on the other hand is where things get really strange. Again, a retcon for Generations makes sense to an extent, especially when you consider that the characters had their ages shuffled around as it was with the Adventure redesign. Amy aged up from 8 to 12 and Knuckles aged up from 15 to 16. Tails remained the same but Sonic actually received a subtle change. Bios that listed Sonic’s age before Adventure typically listed him at 15 to 16 years old. That would actually make him the same age or older than his Adventure onward counterpart. But it gets even weirder. According to the Sonic Technical Files (currently hosted by Sonnic Fansite Sonic Retro here - http://info.sonicretro.org/Original_Story) Sonic was actually originally thought about to be even older, around 18 years old. Suddenly, Sonic from his typically dubbed Classic Era is actually definitively older than his modern counterpart, yet is portrayed as a younger bubbly child from Sonic Generations onward. And I assure you, this is a retcon.

If you grew up in the 90s like I did and were introduced to Sonic when he debuted back in 1991, then you will remember the western advertising over embracing his teenager with an attitude description. And it wasn’t just in game ads, it was in all Sonic media available in the west. The US cartoons, the Archie and Fleetway comics, and so on, portrayed Sonic as an uppity teenager with an attitude problem (some cases being far worse than others). That teenager of a high school age mentality was the backbone for why the Archie Sonic comics were littered with teenager romance drama, which would look rather distasteful if you think about it post retcons now. But they were not at fault for portraying Sonic based on being high school age. The material and information they were provided told them as such and so they based their interpretations off of that available information.

But it wasn’t just a western mistake either. If not for input from key members of SEGA of America (henceforth SoA) Sonic would be rather different and would even have had a human girlfriend by the name of Madona who was anything but a child.

[Pic here - https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/d/dc/Madonna.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090313035151]

Madonna was not the only time it happened either as one of the last pieces of pre-Adventure release Classic Sonic material is the Sonic OVA or Movie produced by Japanese animation studio Studio Peirrot where a catgirl (read human girl with cat ears and a tail) was the main love interest and whom even Eggman/Robotnik wanted to marry (it’s weird, I don’t argue that). But more importantly, two of Sonic’s primary creators, Yuji Naka and Naoto Oshima, were listed as Production Directors for the two episode Original Video Animation (OVA) and were rumored to be involved quite a bit with the film. You can typically find it on youtube though I recomend the subbed version, bad video quality and all, to get a better representation of the Japanese perspective. It’s really eye opening and was very nostalgic in when I first watched it post Sonic Generations release.

The thing is though, the OVA released in 1996, years before the Adventure rebranding, and is strongly believed to be how Naka and Oshima see the character. This is actually reflected in the Sonic Adventure redesign as Yuji Naka on record (a shame I can’t find the link) has stated that Sonic was redesigned to bring him closer to the original character idea and to erase the growing cute identity that he was developing due to marketing. He even goes on to say that Sonic was never intended to be cute and that being a cute mascot character would inevitably pit him against Hello Kitty which would not have ended well. Yet, SEGA retconned the Naka/Oshima Sonic into being a bubbly hyperactive kid who was much shorter and generally hyper cute compared to his more modern interpretation of the character. This retcon is only made even more complicated when SEGA decided they didn’t like their “New” Classic Sonic being treated as the same character as their Legacy Sonic and even retconned that come Sonic Forces to say that he was actually from a different dimension. Years after Sonic Forces release that decision still riles up many more dedicated fans as it breaks the series continuity. Arguably, it has too. After all, if Naka/Oshima Sonic is older than Legacy/Modern Sonic and has the same height yet New Classic Sonic is shorter and strangely mute then something had to be changed or it just starts to fall apart for a cohesive narrative. Of course Amy’s four year gain already threw things into question but on it’s own was fairly harmless considering her role in the franchise as the main female lead and primary love interest. But New Classic Sonic’s muteness is what this post will be carrying on from.

One of the biggest misconceptions of Sonic before the Adventure redesign is that he did not speak. The primary reason for this misconception I usually attributed to him not speaking in the classics. this is actually a false statement as Sonic speaks in Sonic the Hedgehog CD, SegaSonic the Hedgehog, and is quite the chatterbox in a Japanese only popcorn machine. Admittedly, these are all difficult to experience items, especially pre-Adventure, but by the time of Soinc Generations’ release a good deal of these could be researched and Sonic CD was readily available to the public again thanks in no small part to Christian Whitehead of Evening Star Studios. but even outside of the games SOnic was shown to talk quite a bit before the Adventure redesign. Again both the western comics and cartoons and even numerous Japanese comics all showed him speaking quite a bit before the Adventure redesign. Of a more canonical nature however, the Japanese instruction manuals for most of the games from the original onward will show Sonic talking.

So, where did this misconception gain enough steam to become a retcon? It’s hard to say, but there are a lot factors that could lead to it. Major fan backlash was threatened when Generations was first revealed if they got Sonic’s voice wrong and hat it’d be better if he didn’t talk at all. SEGA is known for overreacting to negative feedback at odd and seemingly random times and this appears to me to be yet another case of it. But his muteness only got weirder when people started latching on to him being mute as a matter of shyness. I don’t know where that one originated from, but Sonic’s shyness is actually a trait of his, but it is specifically tied to how he feels about his self-proclaimed Amy Rose. When asked about, Yuji Naka once said that Sonic does likely like Amy deep down, but is too shy to act on those feelings. Naoto Oshima expands further on that stating that Sonic has a boyish immaturity in regards to his feelings and thus won’t act on them but should he mature in that regard he would end up with Amy. In other words, boyish immaturity and shyness are part of Sonic’s character, but they only reflect on certain facets of his character. His shyness and immaturity of his feelings for Amy though were instead stretched out to cover most of his character resulting in New Classic Sonic being a mute, when Naka/Oshima, Legacy/Modern, BOOM! (just to throw in another iteration where he is shy about his feelings for Amy), and even Movie Sonic are all rather talkative.

So that there is three misconceptions about pre-Adventure Sonic that are perpetuated officially by New Classic Sonic effectively being placed over Naka/Oshima Sonic. Again, I don’t aim to bash fanfics and AUs as I love them and the way they explore the characters in new ways, but for the sake of new fans not being overly confused, it should be noted if your Classic Sonic is New or Generations based, or the Naka/Oshima, pre-Adventure version. There are hugely massive differences between them with things like height, age, and talkativeness being hugely noticeable. Otherwise, keep writing, drawing and having fun, and may all of the movie’s fans who find their way into the fanbase enjoy themselves

#sonic the hedgehog #sonic misconceptions #misconceptions born of retcons #misconceptions #retcons #Naka/Oshima Sonic #legacy/modern sonic #boom! sonic #movie sonic #long post #long rant #thoughts #my thoughts #clarification

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