#I'm not here to change anyone's mind

[theerurishipper]

This is in response to some arguments in defense of the finale I've seen recently, and if you do believe these, then more power to you! But I disagree, and I'm gonna talk about why.

Rant under the cut. Fair warning, this gets pretty salty.

So I've seen a lot of arguments about how it just wouldn't be possible to have Adrien in the final battle, whether it be because it would be too traumatic for him and we can't explore that in the middle of a fight, or because it would take away focus from Marinette and she would be irrelevant ultimately. And I actually agree!

But what could possibly be done to resolve this? Oh, I know! Fucking write better.

If you were going to put Adrien in the position of being central to the story and write him out with the excuse that he can't live up to that role for various reasons, then why did you write him in that role? It's obvious to anyone that if Gabriel is Adrien's father, then the emotional weight of the conflict would be centered on him and not Marinette. Then why did you still write that into the show? If you wanted to focus on Marinette over Adrien anyway, then why did you make Gabriel be Hawkmoth? Let some other rando be Hawkmoth! And now there's no value to Gabriel being the villain beyond giving Marinette some material for her grand speech (which didn't do shit cause she still lost).

And if you were going to say that Adrien was too traumatized to be in the battle or that he wouldn't be able to deal with it well or that we couldn't see that... write around it? Have him deal with it before, or something, I don't know! Maybe give him that sweet sweet character development? Maybe let the friends who are supposed to support him actually do that? Idk man, this is all coming across as a bunch of excuses to me.

The thing is, this is a kids show. It's not real. The writers control everything that happens. It's not about "realism," it's about narrative payoff. It's about the most satisfying outcome. It's about character arcs. If Adrien was never supposed to face his father in a fight, then why make him a superhero? Could have just let him be Adrien the teen model love interest while Marinette is the superhero. Why give him powers which thematically represent him breaking free from his oppressive life and an enmity with his own father if it never mattered? If "it's us against the world, my lady," and "we'll get all the Miraculous back together," never mattered, then why include it? If two partners chosen to fight evil together and the yin-yang symbolism never mattered, why set it up?

If you set something up, you have a responsibility to deliver on it, and Miraculous failed. And yeah. I get that it's hard. I'm not saying writing is easy. But anything is better than this! Writing is your job, and I don't expect literal perfection, but I expect it to fulfill the basic expectations of writing. I expect it to at least be good. This is not good. They literally ignored their own story and themes and character arcs and narrative payoff because they wanted Marinette to get a swanky new outfit and a cool fight scene. It wasn't even for her character. It's just so that they can put give her a cool power-up and sell Bug Noire dolls. It's disrespectful to Adrien's character, and it's disrespectful to Marinette's character too.

The writers failed to make Marinette interesting in terms of the conflict with Gabriel. They gave all the set-up to Adrien and didn't want to write the payoff. There are no emotional stakes in the final battle. They literally only talk about Adrien, and he's not there for that. It's bad writing. And if they didn't let Adrien be a part of the arc with his father as the villain, what hope does he have in the arcs with Lila as the antagonist, since she is a Marinette-centric villain? TA has already said that Marinette is Barbie and Adrien is just Ken. The writers have said that Gabriel is considered a hero by the end of Season 5. The show bible says that Adrien will never find out that his father is Hawkmoth.

Let's face it, they aren't coming back to this. Gabriel's era is over. Miraculous is well known for setting up conflicts and dropping them like a hot potato. If we ever deal with this, it's gonna be half an episode of Adrien forgiving Marinette because "she did it out of love." None of this will matter come Season 6. The supposed conflict being set up now will matter to Season 6 as much as the Ladynoir set up in Strikeback with the "we'll take back all the Miraculous together, you and me," mattered to Season 5, which is to say not at all.

#Meta #My meta #S5 Finale #ML Salt #ML Writers Salt #ML Writing Salt #Marinette Salt #Not really but just to be safe #Ladybug Salt #If salt really ticks you off then please don't read this #I'm not here to change anyone's mind #I'm just ranting

[the-badger-mole]

One of the funniest things to me is people ignoring my track record for snarkiness in the face of unhinged, unsolicited arguments. It's not even like I haven't warned them, either. They just want to provide me with entertainment, I guess.

#antis you've been warned #i'm not here to change anyone's mind #and i'm not here to have mine changed either #deal with it

[why-the-heck-not]

insomnia? do u mean my true crime podcast time

#u know bc now I can convince my brain I slept a little bc I had my eyes closed for like 2h while listening to it #it’s like u can almost gaslight it into thinking that that podcast was actually dreaming bc we for sure were asleep yes #also this sucks bc it’s ahead of its schedule; I can’t sleep during summers so like what is this then #the climate change is affecting my insomnia cycle damnit #real unfortunate tho if it keeps going for longer (just been like 2ish weeks now) bc I got a thesis plus other shit to do #(also to anyone who’s unclear on the subject; yes I have slept during these 2ish weeks I'm not dying i'm just hella tired bc it’s not good #refreshing long sleeps bc mf it takes like 5 hours to fall asleep) #(except today bc it’s 7am and I’m giving up on it & hopefully will have a nap sometime during the day idk) #(im tired and getting increasingly more stressed abt becoming more tired and then not having the energy to do things that I fully neeed to #get done and how the stress just yes helps ah nice) #(sorry for ranting in thr tags; weird state of mind here bc of aforementioned) #march 2024 #2024

[dollypopup]

y'all can all cancel me (again) for this, but if there's even a SHRED of 'who should I pick?' from Penelope in season 3, I am tuning out SO fast because like. . .sorry not sorry, there IS no choice. Debling is some crusty OC suitor she barely even knows and Colin is a man who she has been so supposedly in love with to the point where she'd ruin her entire family's reputation to have a potential love story with him. Penelope and Colin have background, years of knowing each other, intimacy that few people in the Ton can boast of having (letters, conversations about purpose, fights and arguments and makeups) and her and Debling have. . .a dance or two at a ball because he's a rebound for Penelope's broken heart. he means nothing. he has no nuance, he has no weight to the story, he is such an afterthought to me. either I wanna see Penelope going 'you know what? I don't even LIKE this dude. he's. . .fine, but I don't care about him even a shred as much as I care about Colin' or the INSTANT Colin's like 'you know what? we should get married' if it's not an immediate 'say less, you're already my husband, try returning me without the receipt, Debling whomst?' then I don't want it!

like. . .it's just so frustrating to see all the 'I hope Debling sweeps her off her feet and she rejects Colin's proposal and she makes him work for it and and and-' nonsense from the fandom and it's always tagged and no matter how many times I block it, it just keeps popping up. I go into the Polin tag for POLIN. I don't give a SHIT about a male love interest other than Colin. Not one. Not a shred. Not an iota.

and also. . .Debling has the 'benefit' of not having depth, or character traits, or HISTORY, so peeps can project onto him however they want, but I'm calling it now, there is NOTHING he could do or be that would make me like him more than Colin. Colin will always hit different, and I will always love him more. and if Pen's not on that same page? lol bye

you want me to believe Penelope and Colin are soulmates and it's romance for her to hem and haw about how difficult a decision it is for her to marry a stranger who knows barely anything about her. . .

when Marina was out here dropping banger lines like 'You were the only man with which I could see myself being happy' and 'I do not care about any of these men, where is Colin?'? like hello??? and she wasn't even fully in love with him!!!! but we'll demonize her until the cows come home in our fandom and make her the villain in Polin's love story for DARING to get in between Polin, yet Debling, a white man, is a darling dear perfect prince for getting in between Polin? existing in our fandom solely so Penelope can be like 'lol, Colin ain't shit, let me entertain any and everyone else'?

if that's the direction it goes then, ten toes down and on my mama, she doesn't deserve Colin and she can move because I'm on my way to court him my damn self

and that's that on that

#you know what? lol it's been a bit since i've posted a controversial opinion #tagging it #polin #sorry not sorry i ship polin. . .so i wanna see. . .polin. . .and i'm getting damn sick and tired #of all the bullshit pen/oc pen/other dude theories and stories in the polin tag #and i don't want polin to lose screentime over a frankly bleh male oc #you can't change my mind #if i don't see at least marina's 'you've seen him with the little bridgertons!' level of squee and 'i only want to talk to colin' #levels of devotion then i don't fucking WANT IT!!!!! #yeah definitely try out the marriage market #realize that NO ONE has a good time on the marriage market #try to get over him w/ whomstever #but then be like 'i don't even LIKE this dude where's colin i miss him' about it!!!!! #because otherwise i am not here #i am asleep #and i am courting colin in your place pen #i'm coming for your man #anti debling #if debling has 100 haters i am one of them if he has 10 haters i'm one of them if he has 1 hater i am the hater if he has 0 haters i'm dead #it's incredibly obvious that 'pebling' is half rooted in a revenge storyline fueled by anger at Colin and his complexity #and half a projection of wanting Penelope to have 'choices' because she is a representation and manifestation of the fans themselves #and so people think an OC that can be 'perfect' for them- whoops I mean Pen (because he doesn't have any real depth or interest) #he's a cardboard cutout we can throw whatever you want onto #so we can make him 'perfect' instead of the much more meaningful storyline of pen and colin both being messy and loving each other more #and part of it is bitterness over Polin not being insta-love #which. . .if it was i wouldn't like them as much as i do #anyways y'all ain't slick #and it's fucking WEIRD to be in a fandom that's like 'i ship this couple but i hope she gets with ANYONE else' #maybe you. . .don't ship the couple?? #like. . .to the point of wanting her necklace to be from debling. . .and her wearing it everywhere??? WHAT??

[sluttylittlewaste]

Maybe this is just a me thing but the MOMENT I realize a person in my life, whether romantic or platonic, doesn't reciprocate my feelings - I drop it. If I say "Hey I really like you" and they go "Oof sorry, I don't feel that way " or they leave or they try to change the subject? I will never bring it up again. Fully never happened.

I feel like a lot of people (specifically with regards to the romance genre in media) have this fantasy of being chased and having someone fight to tear their walls down, or to stick around even when they are constantly being pushed away - and perhaps it's because I have always envisioned myself in these scenarios as the one forced to do the chasing - but it feels... sad? Imbalanced? Pushy and coercive?

I don't want a relationship I had to talk the other person into. I don't want to have to give a grandiose speech about all the reasons loving me is actually worth the effort, or roll out a full marketing presentation to convince my partner that our relationship could be a good thing if they just "gave it a chance".

If a person I care for decides not to be around me? I'm going to trust them to know what's right for them. I'm going to trust a person if they say they don't want me or don't have space for me in their life. The moment you say you don't want me around, I'm gone. Poof.

IDK. There is just something about responding to blatant rejection by trying harder that makes me sort of sad instead of the happy tingly feelings these stories are trying to elicit.

#something something people should be able to take no for an answer #i know sometimes it's about “looking through the insecurety and self-sabotage to see the persons true feelings” or whatever #but I just #you'll never have to reject me twice #I'm not here to read people's minds #or try to change their minds about themselves or me or romance or friendship #respecting people's ability to think for themselves is a core component of love (for me at least) #so im going to take what is said or done at face value #ive had this argument with friends and exes before #“you aren't going to try ro fight for me/it/us?” not if you've made it clear that you want out #i have no desire to trap anyone #also #there's something very concerning about encouraging people to assume they know what their loved ones want #rather than accept what they are told or shown #this was brought on by uncarleys rwrb video #because when Henry jumped into that lake? i fully would have just left it at that #im not flying halfway around the world for someone who clearly doesn't want to talk to me #because if he wanted to talk to me he would #and i honestly don't think id ever be able to truly trust that our relationship wasn't just a result of me harassing him into it #but maybe that's my trust issues #rwrb #prince henry rwrb #prince henry fox mountchristen windsor #red white and royal blue #alex claremont diaz #thoughts #let me die #if i die #romance #love

[yeonban]

I might be ~quirky~ for this (welcome to my twisted mind and etc) but I genuinely have so much fun with shipping nowadays, ever since I chose to be singleship for each muse. I feel like my adhd has never allowed me to pour even half as much care and attention into a ship as I'd have loved to when I had multiple ones at the same time per muse, so being able to focus on a single romantic dynamic per muse really feels like a weight off my shoulders

#* ooc. / posts. #I also know my adhd is all over the place so at times I may go a few months w/o bringing that specific muse (and thus ship) up #(unless you approach me in dms; in which case my mind typically instantly goes !!! on the muse & ship) #so I'm INCREDIBLY touched whenever my ship partners agree to be singleship w me. It's truly such an honor and blessing to me #and I feel like it's much easier for my muse to get very attached when their romantic attention only goes to a single person; #so you can best believe that from the moment we start shipping your portrayal will ALWAYS. and I mean /ALWAYS/ be intertwined with mine #doesn't matter if you drop the muse or leave tumblr or stop writing altogether. your muse will Always be my muse's special someone #I've had tons of ships where my partner disappeared off the face of the earth one day and yet all I've done was change 'singleship' #to 'noship' bc my muse's heart to this day (several irl years later) continues to be with their portrayal; REFUSING to look at anyone else #Granted this is also why I'm so picky with shipping; in the sense that I let my muse lead the way til they fall in love #and only THEN do I ask the mun if they're fine w our muses being a thing (and thus being singleship w me) #I used to say yes to people just asking to ship and while I know that's a neat option too; I simply. Cannot do that these days ADGHSAJDSDK #nothing against anyone nor against that route; but I've had a good share of ships that crumbled or made me lose muse bc my muse wasn't #feeling the ship. so I'm no longer going ahead unless the muse falls first and makes ME start shipping it rather than the other way around #and that decision has unironically made me feel so light and comfortable here AHDSAJDSKDJ #AH NEY WAYZ!! I need to be sedated bc why am I awake at 11 am. I HAVE NOT SLEPT.

[goldkirk]

I AM SO GLAD I'M STILL ALIVE FOR ALL THIS

#personal #really thought the blob full of nothing but terror and grief stage was permanent for a while there #and i wasn't even suicidal anymore i thought i had just permanently borked my brain #no!!!!!!! it just needed time! and my body needed more health!!! and i needed more community again! #DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!!!! if you're seeing this and you're exhausted beyond your bones or being eaten alive by a black hole #please know that you don't need to have hope and you don't need to be gung ho about it to survive #just keep going through the slog and take any opportunity that seems vaguely better each time you can #and rest rest rest i guarantee you that you need unholy amounts of rest that you're not getting #and just hold on. just hold on. it might take years but god everyone was right it was worth it to stay and keep going a while longer #you can give up on life. just don't give up on yourself. you keep hold of yourself and don't let ANYONE convince you to let go including #your own brain. you are SO much cooler and braver and wilder and livelier than you think you are and you're only going to improve over time #i love you and i'm here if there's anything i can do for you #don't be afraid to change your mind and don't be afraid to demand your right to live #those are my two rules for life at this point besides the cardinal rule of 'everyone is suffering and traumatized so be as kind as possible #and watch what happens in a snowball effect around you' #i love you. i love you. i am so glad i am alive to love you.

[babacontainsmultitudes]

[just venting a bit into the void you understand you understand 😌] Lately I've been feeling very caught between "I have a lot of thoughts on Sparrow and Normal and all that with the ending and teen talk and feel like I need to get them out and voice them for my own piece of mind and resolution" and "I am lacking the strength and energy to actually sit down and write it all out and kind of really just want to fully move on to other things (AUs, fics, anything else)" but my brain can't seem to commit to either and that's quite frustrating cause it's just left me very restless. *Sigh*. Idk! Just needed to complain about that a bit ig, it's silly but this is what has been ailing me as of late.

#Then there's also a part of me that's like “does anyone even care at this point? haven't I already talked about them too much?” #but I have seen many a take that irk me... #and perhaps at the center of it all nagging at me is that persistent conflation of love and pride #Less about that in Normal's mind so much as in Will's and the fandom's 🤔 #Also that reoccurring issue of the fandom going ''Normal thinks this therefore it is The Truth'' though I believe I've discussed this befor #And... Hooks Will could have grabbed onto but didn't... Quite a few of those... #And the double standard/negativity bias in fandom of ignoring that Sparrow says both that he loves and likes Normal while doodlerized #But not treating those with the same legitimacy we do the pride thing. And ignoring Sparrow's demonstrations of love and change... #And what the love wolf scene actually implies about Sparrow (as I see it) with his own explanation of the pride thing in mind #But also!!! Also on Norm's epilogue and how despite everything taken at face value (i.e. no teen talk influence) I don't actually hate it #and I think it's plenty salvageable #And gah also that like *regardless* of how things turn out with Normal and his dad- #Well I haven't listened to much of the teen talk just the directly Sparrow-relevant clips #so I don't know quite how cynical Will is or isn't about Normal's future #But like. UGH. What I'm trying to say is even if things didn't find resolution vis-a-vis his dad #(which tbh I could go either way on- it's the meta misinterpretations of Sparrow that Bother me not so much Normal's) #(Well that's complicated. Again it comes back to the love vs. pride thing gosh this is so vague of me lol) #With all the positive influences in his life (and just the fact that life is long? and therapy is a thing?) I just don't see Normal- #being Miserable for the rest of his life. Like. I mean I won't elaborate here really but damn it no he can absolutely turn out alright stil #blugh #BUT YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF AND THAT'S ONLY VAGUE RAMBLINGS ABOUT *SOME* OF IT #Like I'm proud of a lot of my essay posts (which I'm hoping to eventually compile in a masterpost eventually actually) but they take a whil #And if my heart wants to do other things... Ah idk... #ANYWAYS a vent to vent a vent to vent

[rraaarr]

everyone's talking about how Nina parallels Aziraphale bc he is the one who broke up with his abusive ex, and while Aziraphale Did do that, of the two of them, Whose the one still getting texts from their ex?

#Not saying anyone is wrong #Just I don't think we talk enough about how Crowley still hasn't made a clean break from hell here #And he does it for protection reasons #Which makes sense! #But I think Crowley hanging out with Shax all season parallels Aziraphale's decision to go to heaven at the end #And that aziraphale does it for similar reasons as Crowley does #It's just hanging out with shax didn't cost him Aziraphale #Which is a fair difference #But like it Almost cost him Aziraphale #Who's the one attacking the bookshop? #I don't know #I'm not really saying anything #I'm mostly just saying that I think Nina does parallel Crowley #And I think both of them parallel both of them #It's all the same they just take turns #No real point just rambling #I'll probably change my mind on something tomorrow lol #Do not look here for go2 analysis consistency #The only constant is that everyone makes good points all the time #Even the ones that disagree #ESPECIALLY the ones that disagree #Oh right go2spoilers #go2 spoilers #ineffable partners #ineffable divorce #ineffable husbands #shax #crowley #aziraphale #good omens thoughts

[avallachs]

anyway, because people got precious about it: my disappointment at bg3 winning doesn't come from a place of hate or bitterness. i dearly love bg3 & had fun before it became unplayable for me. i just don't think a game that was released (and remains) heavily bugged & unfinished is this year's goty material.

#ophelia.txt #and as per usual i'm not here to argue with or change anyone's minds. happy for those of u who are excited about it winning <3 /gen #i wasn't going to say something like this. much less a day later. but some people got upset a my joke yesterday & i wanted to clarify !

[aquaristintern]

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#the thing is: people would rather believe things are going to play out exactly how they are in the books that they'll point to anything #to back themselves up #interviews of cast members saying something that does not at all equate to 'armand is mind controlling louis' #or 'the domestic abuse did not happen' #rather than stop and engage with the show on its own #all the symbolism amazing writing and complex characters and new but fantastic changes does not mean anything #because they are more concerned about getting to a hypothetical point of the show where they'll be validated #like they can't acknowledge racism and abusive relationships and inter-generational trauma because they think doing so #makes them a bad person for....liking lestat? being white? liking anne rice as a kid? idk #and THAT'S how we get 'fandom is so toxic pcs were never this bad' 'being white gets you oppressed in some countries so pls be nicies to me #and 'these people are actually pretending to be black to cause trouble see these black people who agree with me? means i'm not racist' #'btw don't worry about the fact i follow racists and allow them on my platform i'm very popular after all that's not the real issue here' #fandom racism #iwtv discourse #to blacklist in case anyone is sick of hearing this

[ofgentleresolve]

the way i think moving blogs might help with my enthusiasm on here but also not knowing if it would actually help....

#that would be truly wonderful ( ooc. ) #( tbd. ) #negative cw #i also honestly hate moving blogs.... #ugh i miss writing on here and my other blogs #but something just?? hasn't been feeling right?? kinda like #my writing or characters aren't engaging enough bc they tend to be goody two shoes ( which is my comfort ngl ) #but i guess...i just feel off in general? i miss some of my writing partners #and that's not anyone's fault!! life happens and motivations change....i wish mine will too :/ and i don't mind waiting #i thought renovating might help but i can't help but think it wasn't as effective :/ #i also will admit this is partially ( okay entirely ) my fault i know i haven't bee active on reaching out and talking to ppl #and i haven't been nearly as active on here as i've wanted to #if you got to the end of this thank you for reading #just so you know i'm already very satisfied with my current set of partners and active plots and want to expand to new ppl too #i will be gone for most of this weekend so i won't be able to write much/talk with ppl on discord #so have a good weekend in the meanwhile everyone

[winepresswrath]

I think it would be an improving experience for the writers who think surprising their audiences or leaving them sad and unsatisfied is the pinnacle of artistic achievement and have not noticed that the easiest way to bring that about is in fact to be bad at your job and the fans who think it should be illegal to write an ensemble or fail to clearly signpost the endgame couples or whether there's a happy ending to spend some time together, creatively speaking. Hand in unloveable hand.

#improve what u ask? #me. I'd be improved by watching #my mood specifically #I know dunking on the former is too easy in a post got world but they have plagued me for so long #i do understand how frustrating it can be to feel like the reader-writer contract is being broken #but I also feel very strongly that you've gotta give writers room to change their minds and explore the story as it goes #especially in collaborative serialized story telling where they really aren't going to have a full sense of how everything is landing until #fairly late in the process #and like. I'm not here to tell anyone how to enjoy a story #but I also think that if some of these people experienced the epic highs and lows of not knowing exactly where a story is going from #the beginning they would enjoy it #like at their best genre expectations function like the structure of a sonnet and part of the trick is bringing that form to life and #working within that structure #but breaking the rules can be so much fun! as can throwing them out the window #and also often they are not at their best and just turn everything to boring cardboard #my personal vendetta against romance as a genre aside I love fantasy I will defend it to the end but so much of it is not as good as it #could be for this reason and that makes me sad

[feferipeixes]

vent

#content warning for detransition #it is hard to exist in the world as someone who regrets transitioning #i'm not transphobic. i support trans people. it just wasn't right for me #and yet my experiences get lumped in with people who spout hateful rhetoric #i'm not here to take away anyone's right to do anything. i believe in bodily autonomy. #i don't want to be a precautionary tale or a right wing news story. fuck terfs. #all i want is empathy #i can't talk about how traumatic my transition was without people assuming that i'm talking about all trans people #i'm just talking about me. my experiences are not normal. #i am a victim of homophobia and malpractice. i was tricked and abused. #i saw a post about detrans positivity and it was all about how you can change your mind and it's fine #it's not fine for me #there are major irreversible medical changes i underwent that i did not truly consent to #i struggle with it every day. i can't just turn back. and people tell me it's my fault. #i'm happy for people who feel supported by that sentiment but i don't feel supported by it #i need love and support for people who DO feel broken because of transitioning #the grief that people like me experience is unimaginable #and so often we have to face it alone because we are seen as traitors #i promise i still support you and your transition despite my pain #please. acknowledge that I exist.

[thevegetablewhichnoonedaresname]

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#pickle pontificates #i need to find a nice chill blog to follow for a certain fandom because I've been braving the wild west of the tag for a few weeks #and I'm sick and tired of seeing weird braindead discourse that's just rehashing stuff from every fandom ever and refusing nuance #i hate shipping discourse. sick of it #liking a ship or hating a ship does NOT make you morally superior or inferior or say anything about your political opinions #(in and of itself anyway) #like. yeah i don't ''get'' a lot of ships and don't really love any for this particular thing #but like. people are going to ship. they're going to ship things that don't make sense to you. #they're going to ship ''the wrong couples'' and ''the wrong genders'' (???) and there's nothing you can do about that #it's fair to vent about ships you don't care for or understand and it's fair to enthuse about ships you love #what i don't get is discourse with ppl vaguing in main tags back and forth like there's a debate to be had #there's not. there is no debate to be had in matters of preference #if ppl were really debating what makes canonical sense then sure. you could debate that #but there are only like two or less implied canonical ships in this fandom and NO official ones #NOTHING makes canonical sense. SHIPPING IS PREFERENCE. shipping is almost always inherently nonsensical to varying extents #you're not going to change anyone's preferences or behavior by complaining about a widespread cross-fandom phenomenon that's now here #this is an adult/teen story with adult characters aimed at an adult demographic #be an adult and mind your own business instead of acting like it's a moral social justice crusade to engage in shipping discourse #mkay rant over #okay to respond/reply btw i just don't want this in tags

[unrestrainedbalderdash]

NOOO WHY'S THERE BI LESBIAN EXCLUSION IN THE ORIENTED AROACE TAG.

#DUDE. YOU'RE LITERALLY IN THE ORIENTATION THAT IS MASSIVELY BUILT ON THE SPLIT ATTRACTION MODEL #AND YET YOU CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND THAT ALLOS COULD HAVE THE SPLIT ATTRACTION MODEL????? #(not saying all the bi lesbians are alloallo just trying to point out op's foolishness) #(also there's probably people identifying as bi lesbian for reasons other than that which is also valid #but pointing this out because it's in the oriented aroace tag) #like. it won't cover all the nuances but i can think of an extremely simple explanation for bi lesbians existing #you can just have different attraction types to different genders. it's simple! #dw i'm not getting too angry at this i'm just baffled by their chopt logic #anyway. bi lesbians are extremely valid and if you don't agree get out #queer discourse #<- not looking for any debates here just tagging for filtering purposes. get gone if you disagree. or think and change your mind. #tw discourse #cw discourse #if anyone knows the specific tags people have filtered for mspec and bi lesbian discourse let me know #just hovered over their accounts to block them. the asker is a minor so i guess i can understand them being stupid #but the answerer is 24 you should have developed critical thinking and common sense by now #rancid takes #<- gonna use this as a general tag for filtering