#I’m not anti or pro either

[caramel-ribbons]

I just watched Avatar for the first time all the way through, and yeah, it’s great, but the one thing that surprised me was how different Katara was compared to the fandom interpretation I’d seen and internalized before watching.

Like, before you watch Avatar, you’ve seen all these memes about Katara and her mom, and based on those memes, you assume it’s one of those lines you have to get used to hearing at least once every episode. But then you watch the show and realize that she only talks about her mom maybe five or six times per season and you also realize she only brings her up when she’s trying to comfort someone or empathize with them because that’s how she processes her grief and that’s one way she connects with people.

Or you hear the infamous line, “then you didn’t love [our mother] the way I did” and you prepare yourself for one of the worst character assassinations ever only to see the scene after nearly three seasons worth of context and realize she was kinda right. She’s been the mother, the nurturer, the comforter. She’s been patient, gentle, and accommodating where everyone else has gotten to be insensible and reckless and childish, and the one moment where she allows herself to feel her grief, suddenly she’s this evil bitch and not, y’know, a 14 year old girl whose been thrusted into adulthood in a way no other character has. A 14 year old girl who should be allowed immaturity and raw emotion and anger instead of the patience and grace she’s been forced to extend to every character without even the smallest amount of gratitude or even consideration in return.

Or you see all of the clips where Katara puts Aang in the “friendzone” and you expect to have this wishy washy back and forth where Aang is putting his feelings out there only to have Katara neither commit nor express any clear reciprocation or rejection. Then you watch and realize that, as cute as the ship is initially, that there’s never a point where Aang returns any comfort or grace to Katara despite her always doing this for him to the point of coddling. That for as much as Aang says he loves her, he never seems to outgrow his perception of her so he can recognize her as someone who feels grief, anger, and pain as much as she expresses love, kindness, and maturity. And instead of having moments where he learns to see her beyond her strength or compassion, you’re instead given moments where Aang forces his feelings onto her, both romantic and non-romantic, and Katara is expected to just…shoulder those feelings the way she shoulders everyone else’s.

Katara is the most misunderstood character in the show. As much as people recognize the complexities of Zuko, Sokka, and Azula, they struggle to do the same for Katara because they see her struggles as somehow lesser, and therefore, less deserving of sympathy. They can handle her so long as she’s being endlessly patient and loving and kind, but the moment her endless love, patience, and kindness runs out, she’s suddenly this annoying bitch who can’t shut up about her mother or reciprocate Aang’s feelings. But Katara’s trauma does matter as much as anyone else’s. No, she wasn’t banished from her kingdom. No, she didn’t lose her entire community, and no, she isn’t the only one who lost her mother. But the difference between her and everyone else whose experienced loss because of the Fire Nation is that she’s never given time to process her trauma. Aang gets to lean on Katara constantly. Toph gets to express her feelings to Katara, and yeah, Sokka also lost their mother, but unlike Katara, he isn’t put in the position of being a substitute for everyone’s parent. He even admits that he sees his sister as a mother. The only characters who ever comfort Katara or allow her to vent is Zuko and her father and that’s, like, three scenes in a show where the other characters are consistently given opportunities to seek out Katara for unconditional support.

The fandom interpretation of Katara has been so bastardized that even those who haven’t watched the show know her for this fanon version and not for who she is. She’s such an interesting character beyond her fandom limitations, though. She’s brave, hot-headed, and hopeful as well as gentle and caring. She wishes to learn waterbending, not only because she wants to fight in the war, but because she wants to continue her culture’s practices because, and people often forget this, she also lost an entire subculture within her already fractured tribe. And she wants to defeat the Fire Nation both because of her deep love and empathy for other people, but also because she wants to avenge her mother. But because some of the fans have reduced Katara to a bitch who constantly whines about her mother and friendzones Aang, you wouldn’t know any of this, and it sucks because she’s the only character whose been dumbed down to such an extent.

#avatar the last airbender #avatar #katara #you can tell she’s my favorite character #female character #zutara #I’m not anti or pro either #just something I noticed #I’m ​not against Aang either #just this writing

[l3irdl3rain]

How is my best friend Arthur has he helped you baldur any gates

He’s been good! My washing machine broke last week and I hauled it out the other day in preparation for the new one and he’s been loving his new Top Secret Hiding Spot.

We are taking a little bit of a Baldur’s Gate break right now just because I was getting burnt out. We’re slowly making our way through Mass Effect Andromeda for the second time. I’m very excited to get back to BG3 tho.

I left off right at the start of Act 2. I’m playing a Githyanki monk named Ez’rai and spent way too much time coming up with a backstory for them. I’m going to be romancing Wyll this time. I think Ez’rai growing up in such a harsh culture that didn’t have room for soft romance will go together in such a fun and cute way with Wyll. A noble’s son who is just so sweet and romantic and good.

#been too busy to play much vidya games the past week or two #I spent SO much time on DND wiki #and I feel like it’s plausible with the already set lore. which obviously doesn’t really matter bc it’s just for fun #but it’s important to me that it feels plausible lol #their crèche went rogue. anti Vlaakith teachings as well as teaching that the githzerai and githyanki should reunite #to have a better chance of defeating the mindflayers #for obvious reasons Vlaakith was NOT a fan of this #Vlaakith sent people to destroy the crèche and Ez’rai was one of the only ones who survived #all the survivors eventually either died or ended up split up somehow #makes for an extra interesting dynamic with Lae’zel and also Orpheus (even tho I have to imagine it all in my head lol) #anyways BG3 was my first introduction to DND lore so if you’re a seasoned pro and this seems so far fetched to you I’m sorry #I’m just having fun with my blorbos #my post #Arthur #ask

[moonlightdancer26]

Severus Snape in a nutshell:

#he ain’t operating come back tomorrow #(p.s. he won’t be operating the next day either‚ but i’m sure you already know that) #severus snape #pro snape #pro severus snape #snape #harry potter #anti snaters #shitpost #hp shitpost #hp

[cryinginthefkncorner]

“Um actually, I don’t think you understand the actual meaning of (insert label here)

Maybe instead of assuming that the person your talking to is an idiot you should question if they actually have formed their opinions of the labels being debated through actual research and reading things from people on those sides of the “debate”

I’m anti-censorship, I’m not pro or anti ship. Because both sides are bad, both sides make threats to each other

Both sides are a huge distraction from real censorship issues.

If you fic gets taken down you can just go to another website or create your own

If lgbtq+ books are banned in schools it’s not as easy for people who may need that info to access it, now is it? Especially if their parents aren’t accepting.

Maybe instead of screeching about which blorbos are the right blorbos to like, or which fictional characters get to play squish and squeeze with each other as if it is going to change the fabric of history and time as it stands, you should be worried about the actual book bans that are destroying actual published authors careers.

Maybe instead of screaming on tumblr where nothing you say will make much of a difference, you should show up at a school board meeting and actually stand up for books that are being banned, which are overwhelmingly penned by lgbtq and/or POC authors.

But y’all won’t, because screaming on the internet into an echo chamber is a whole lot easier.

#anti censorship #proship #anti proship #do not “um acksually 🤓 your proship me in the comments #I’m not either pro or anti ship as stated in the post #because I care about actual marginalized authors being able to eat and afford rent #I don’t care about your fucking shipcorse #I don’t care about your blorbos #because your not going to have any blorbos if all the good authors and all the good media is censored #or banned #it’s really that simple

[superfallingstars]

wow that marauders timeline post is actually really fascinating with all the headcanons. snape is headcanoned as being homophobic and also snape’s worst memory is reframed as retaliation for him threatening to out remus as a werewolf, which like... lol.

as much as i love the marauders, i’m continually baffled by fans’ depictions of them and their relationship to snape. making the marauders completely well-intentioned and framing their bullying as justified because snape was so awful that he deserved it (?!) just completely squashes all the nuance and tragedy of both of their stories. why can’t we recognize that each of them have legitimate reasons for the things they do, even if we disagree with those actions?

flattening their motives into a basic good vs. evil dichotomy makes all of their decisions (especially later on in the series!) less interesting. and imo whatever might be gained from making characters completely morally good is absolutely not worth the cost of making them boring.

#also to be clear: this is absolutely not meant to be an attack on op pls dont read it as such #i think many marauders fans have a similar interpretation of those characters and i personally do not understand the appeal #(where my morally gray marauders fans at? come say hi. hiiii) #marauders #hp marauders #the marauders #marauders fandom #hp meta #hp fandom #severus snape #pro snape #anti marauders #<- i’m not really either of those things but i want ppl to see this post and share opinions #really being strictly pro or anti any character is what i’m arguing against lol #my posts

[fandomsoda]

Just found out that someone who’s been following me for a bit is pro/ship so ima fucking say it again.

If you ship or are even VAGUELY OK WITH drea//mare (includes Swad/mare, I can’t believe I even have to specify-), font/cest, anything of the like, or anything that qualifies as p3dophilic, get out.

This is not a safe or even neutral space for you. I want you gone.

Frans mf’s are on thin fucking ice.

#text post #regarding dni #I’m not even mad I just want to be firm. #antiship safe blog #btw there’s no such thing as “ship neutral” #You’re either just Pro/ship Lite #or you’re an anti who thinks the term “antishipper” is too extreme/means pro-harassment #It doesn’t #get with the program

[00queasy00]

Rambles in the tags as always lol

#I’m probs just tired but besides posting silly little tomarry boys I have not been wanting to share the other things I’ve been working on #it’s probs the whole mess with Twitter tbh. it’s exhausting and while I already got into the blue/sky place I don’t feel excited to start #being active there either #idk it’s been hella tiring and I don’t personally feel comfy to share more than what I am already #maybe it’s all the anti/pro discourse too tbh tbh it’s tiring and I feel safer and comfy in the tomarrymort space I’m in mmm idk it’s a bit #of many little things #I feel sometimes shy to share these thoughts since I know I’m FOR SURE overthinking and getting stuck on things #but this is also MY blog and I don’t want to shy away from sharing my thoughts even if it’s silly or irrelevant to the theme or whatever #ye ye ye okay I’m done

[the-woild-is-ye-erster]

I am in no way qualified to talk about what is going on in the world, but I think the very basics of it is what’s happening to innocents in Gaza right now is awful, they don’t deserve that, AND this is not an excuse to be antisemitic and condemn Jewish people and all the people of Israel. They experienced a terrible attack as well, the only blame should be on the people ordering the attacks, never on a person who just happens to be living under a certain flag. Something has to be done, because the more innocent blood spilt the worse the world is— no matter who’s blood it is.

Free Gaza, but don’t condemn the civilians of Israel. Their government is to blame— any ‘retaliation’ must be stopped now before the Palestinians are wiped off the map.

There is no good guy in this situation. We need to understand this. We also need to stop punishing each other before more lives are lost.

#gaza strip #Gaza #Israel #free gaza #anti semitism #again I’m not someone to be listened to #everyone should read about the situation for themselves #but I keep seeing posts that are either pro Palestine or pro Israel #and I think that needs to stop #we need to acknowledge that both sides are doing/did bad things #there is no good guy here #or right side

[melhekhelmurkun]

The Jedi Order: attachment is bad and forbidden and it only leads down the path of darkness!!!

Also the Jedi Order: *literally encourages strong parental bonds between Padawan and Master that have a literal emotional bond aspect in which they can feel each other’s emotions/thoughts*

#yes I know that’s not exactly what they meant #but in practice it is #and before anyone says anything about them meaning romantic they do NOT #force sensitive children are taken at a young age specifically to avoid parental bonds #and one of Anakin’s biggest failings was how he reacted to his mother’s death #hell Obi-Wan straight up cut a dude in half when Qui-Gon was killed (yes I’m aware that ‘dude’ was a Sith) #and I’m sure many people would say Obi-Wan was one of the best Jedi in the Order (not just fighting-wise but in general) #sorry I just find it really funny and also irritating how hypocritical the Order was about everything #am I saying the answer was genocide and treason? fuck no #but Anakin wasn’t entirely wrong for feeling like the Jedi Order had a lot of issues and that most of them were unfair to begin with #star wars #jedi #I’m not by any means anti Jedi but I’m sure as hell not pro Jedi either

[calamitousxlove]

I do not like Colleen Hoover books at all, two out of the three I read are probably the worst books I’ve read this year. That being said, I feel like her books are getting the twilight treatment 🧌 otherwise known as: has reasons to be given valid critiques, but instead is hated solely because it has a big audience of young women/girls. Like, I have never met a Colleen Hoover girly that wasn’t nice 💔 why are we insulting the girls who enjoy reading those books, when it’s easy to acknowledge that just because someone likes something doesn’t mean it’s good.

#again I think not liking something is so valid #like I did not like the Colleen Hoover books #at one point I read one solely because I wanted to complain about something #which I guess makes this post hypocritical lol #also this isn’t about anyone who gives actual good critiques #more about how i see so many hate tiktoks towards the Colleen Hoover girlies #like if you’ve never liked something other people deem as bad you are either lying or think very highly of your interest #maybe this is just because I like glee #IM SORRY THIS WAS A VERY RANDOM RANT #but like I keep seeing tiktoks and it’s annoying me #because I am all for making fun of Colleen Hoover #but if it’s just a person on tiktok making a tiktok about how they had a fun time reading something #you do not need to go out of your way to be mean to them 😭 #colleen hoover #anti colleen hoover #<- it’s somehow both at the same time?? #I’m anti Colleen Hoover pro girlies having fun reading #hope this helps #books #anyways I think everyone reading is a good thing :) #unless the author is living and has done something atrociously bad and you don’t pirate their books #i don’t see the issue #meg’s incoherent thoughts

[saintlesbian]

not me praying on the downfall of the bensons rn!!! of all the people for Nina to tell, I didn’t think she’d bring Martin into it????

#general hospital #pentababbles #sorry to be anti benson again and so blatantly pro nina like. #I’m glad the SEC consequences are coming back. I’m glad that Carly might actually face some kind of consequence #bc seeing her getting so chummy with Ninas daughter when she orchestrated events in such a way to keep nina from knowing the truth angers me #downside tho. nina is immediately going to regret it and the consequences are going to splash back on her HARD sorry. #Drew’s busy with the whole rescue mission rn so it’ll be awkward when he comes home and faces insider trading charges #Carly could very well karma Houdini her way out of this so that might leave the bag on just drew. if anyone at all #but also. the thought of Carly getting arrested mid wedding in front of her family well. that’s embarrassing 😅 #like i don’t like Carly and I do want her to face some consequences but. a little worried how the kids r gonna react to her goin to jail #and like. nina you can kinda tell is regretting this decision bc she is gonna get in sooo much trouble with Sonny #I don’t want that to fuck with their relationship but. nina just can’t help herself in these situations #wish it could’ve been just another step removed from Nina tbh. #Tracy’s hatred of ELQ could come in handy maybe? or at least create some interesting family infighting #either way. nina number one babygirl 2023 rotating her in my mind rn #Carly good fuckin luck I guess. lol. lmao

[ziracona]

TLDR at the bottom, as I know this became very long. My apologies.

I would really like to clarify first that I am not arguing with you or attempting to make you like her and am just attempting to explain my stance since you seemed confused about specifically this: as someone who is very solidly for mage rights in the Dragon Age games and also really likes Vivienne, I do think you overestimate how many fans she has? Which is completely understandable as fandom has cooled a little bit in the last few years, which means there’s less discourse posts floating around, but it used to be that if I found Vivienne content it was vitriolic towards her—she has a canonical Ao3 tag labeled “Vivienne (Dragon Age) Is A Bitch” for example.

We’re not prone to criticizing her character on the regular because she already gets a lot of it, on about the same level as Anders (whom I also am very fond of) and most of it has already been said before.

For examples though, her arguments about mages are genuinely infuriating and make little sense.

She is fantastically racist in the game, which is also very frustrating, though to be fair to her, I’m having trouble thinking of a companion who isn’t at some point or another without ability to correct them (Dorian supporting slavery and his “elven harpy” comment towards, Cole’s “Never trust half an elf” comment which is bad regardless of if they were intending it to be about Michel, Solas and Sera’s everything unfortunately, etc. all come to mind.) Maybe Bull, Leliana, or Josie? I can’t remember them being so off the top of my head.

These things do suck and most Vivienne fans (except for a few, but typically fans who support the fantasy Catholic Church aren’t going to be the type of fans who will bother caring about a Black woman—they’ll usually go for Cullen, the white straight man who is anti-mage and who the narrative actually cares about) are very aware of her flaws, but generally we think it was a very stupid idea to have the first Black companion (that they will actually admit to being Black anyway, unlike Isabela who got whitewashed and Morrigan and Cole, who never really have the fact that they are mixed Black acknowledged or shown in the games) support the oppressive system and use her as a mouthpiece for a conservative agenda.

(Using characters as a mouthpiece for whatever agenda the devs are trying to push with little regard to their actual characters is a very common thing in Inqusition—ex. at one point they have Cole say Cullen was a “good Templar who remembered the mages are people” when Cullen literally has a line in 2 saying “Mages aren’t people like you and me.” which is a direct quote from him, and even though Cole should by all rights be terrified by Cullen. Also, all of Varric’s Inquisition characterization.)

I mean, her companion quest is just there to have you distrust her briefly (the quest is named after a classic villain line and the youth potion paper) before “surprising” the player with the the fact that she… has layers? Cares about someone? Which is so… incredibly stupid on the Dev’s parts for a variety of reasons that if I talk about now I will start getting genuinely angry over.

I also think she has some very redeeming qualities. I personally found that she was very compassionate towards an Inquisitor she was friends with. It doesn’t stop her from being opportunistic, but I don’t think that’s a bad thing necessarily. I think this bit specifically is probably something we won’t agree on however, since we have very different readings on these moments, so I’m going keep it at that.

None of this is meant to convince you to like her at all, but I wanted to explain my perspective in doing so since you seemed confused about it.

TLDR: I, and many other pro-mage Vivienne fans, are aware of her flaws, but we think that was a terrible writing decision and do see several redeemable qualities in her character. None of this is meant to sway you in your dislike of her, but I wanted to explain my perspective since you said you didn’t understand how someone could like Vivienne and be pro-mage.

(P.S. I am very sorry if any of this comes off as condescending or if this was completely unwelcome. I’m autistic and have a hard time with tone, both reading it and delivering it. I’m working on it, but I’m still not good at tone over text.)

I. I understand all of this. I’ve criticized the fact they made the first black companion a huge bitch and a bigot against her own kind from the second it became clear that was her personality? But her being the first black companion also doesn’t innately make her a good character. Being a minority doesn’t make what a character does automatically ok or less bad, and idealization is dehumanization as much as villainizing is. It makes BioWare’s writers and their decisions gross, and their agenda gross, any anyone who uses her sucking as an excuse to be racist or disproportionately hateful to only the black companion horrible, but it at the same time doesn’t just…make her good, or ok.

She’s written stupidly, but the character they made is a bigot given no real character growth who tries to ruin the advances for mage rights even if you put forth the best possible outcomes (Lelianna Divine, allied Mages) and befriended Vivienne. She straight sucks. She does. She is a bad, selfish, emotionally manipulative person with no empathy for those of her kind less privileged than her, and a species traitor. (Or whatever? Can’t think of a better thing to categorize Mages as. Class??) It’s not like I only complain about her. I’ve been just as liberal complaining about Doriana and Sera and every other fucked up choice the Devs made. If you’ve seen anything I posted the past week, you’ve probably seen me having a meltdown over how utterly unsalvagable Inquisition is as a game. As for Viv herself, she’s not devoid of good qualities. She’ll be nice if she’s your friend, you’re right, but you have to be kind of terrible to befriend her at all, and so? So is everyone on the planet. That’s what fair weather friends /are/. But beyond that, yeah. She’s not all evil. She cared about the guy she was mistress to. She’s not a monster. But she high key is a terrible person and sucks. You’re right, the devs making her quest a quote from the Queen from Snow White of all things, to encourage a player to lie to her, is fucked up. So is literally everything they did to her. So is how they treated Bull, and Dorian, and Sera, and all kinds of things. But that doesn’t make the character good.

From your own description, you don’t actually like canon Vivienne. You like the HC version you rewrote in your head. And that’s fair, and it’s a fair way to say fuck you to the devs—I do the same with Solas. But you’ll never see me not absolutely accusing the shit out of canon end game Trespasser Solas—he’s a racial supremacist genocide intellectual dude bro, which is a horrific choice for the devs to make esp considering his preTrespasser characterization, but that’s still what he was. I can ignore that and make my HCs, but I’m not going to pretend canon wasn’t what it is. It was. And I wasn’t complaining I see alternate takes on Vivienne, but that I see people talk about Canon Viv like she’s a girlboss while claiming to be pro mage, and those things just concretely do not and cannot go together. And that complaint absolutely stands. It’s cool and even good to hc and rewrite her as a different person. But that’s not canon Viv anymore then, it’s an OC that should have been in the game.

#ask #anonymous #I’m sick of people wanting to argue with me about dragon age so I’m not tagging this sorry people who filter my blog I usually put you first #but I can’t take it anymore #I am also sick of people arbitrarily liking charcaters who suck because they’re hot or because they’re X and then ignoring or excusing every #terrible thing they do or ignoring it compeltely and it happens all the time in everything and I’m allowed to be annoyed by things that #annoy me. it annoys me I don’t see people complain about Dorian being pro slavery or even hesitate to romance him over it. it annoys me Sera #is a bigot to elves and will try to forcibly convert a lover to Fantasy Catholicism or break up. it annoys me Varric is a massive bitch in #Inquisition in many ways but everyone loves him. it annoys me he refused to speak to my husband ONCE even in the event of my death to tell #him I died. it annoys me he will Stan Iza after the end of Act2 but flips on Anders like a griddle cake. it annoys me he’s a centrist and no #one criticizes that. it annoys me Aveline is a bastard cop in DA2 and I don’t see people criticize that. it annoys me Cassandra won’t tell #Mages how to reverse tranquility and no one I see talks about it. it annoys me they Tommy Gun’d Solas’ charcater from the entire game in #Trespasser and I see people stan him or hate him but no one talk about how fucked up the message the devs flipped on a dime to push with #Trespasser was. and it annoys me Vivienne is a huge bitch and a bigot but i either see people complain only that she’s mean or Stan her as a #girlboss and ignore the fact she’s specist and horribly anti mage and a class/species traitor who doesn’t get better #and it annoys me MUCH MORE than ALL of these things that the fault Leo’s with BioWare eroding it’s ethics to a point of toxicity utterly #*Lies With #unlivable and as little as I see complaints about any of the above I still see them more than people calling to break down doors if that #dumbass white Canadians’ game company and wring their necks for every horrific racist anti-minority-action centrist #fascist religious oligarchy supremacist bullshit take they shoved down every player’s throat in Inquisitiom

[moonlightdancer26]

Who would win in a fist fight between James and severus?

Severus would wipe the floor with James 🥰

#he’d just pick him up and throw him out a window tbh #and james can’t do the same to him bc sev can fly wandless while jim-jam can’t even hold off an alien-snake dude with or without a wand 😍 #but seriously anon idk #i def think sev can throw a punch (mans grew up in cokeworth) but we don’t know enough about either of them to judge properly #severus snape #pro snape #this ain’t anti-james i just think i’m funny #pro severus snape #snape #harry potter #hp #ask #asks

[ihhfhonao3]

So tired of anti vs pro discourse and wishing that antishippers weren’t always so fucking awful but also knowing damn well that I’m an anti by definition because proships make me uncomfy for personal reasons and if I was to call myself proship that would be factually incorrect

#as an antishipper I do not condone nor endorse any harassment from or directed to either side. harassment is usually dumb and meaningless #don’t tell anyone to kill themselves okay? not super hard #antis need to stop being so “point and laugh at the person who’s different!” like dude I’m only anti because incest makes me uncomfy. #not because I think that people should be exposed and harassed and like. lose their jobs for shipping something #just because I can’t separate fiction from reality doesn’t mean that other people can’t either. yknow #antiship #anti ship #anti shipping #antishipping #antishipper #proship #anti proshipping #peaceshipping #tldr pros and antis y’all are both welcome on my blog. I don’t dni people. but don’t tread on thin ice by harassing others/ sharing your #“problematic ships” with me. both of these things make me uncomfortable and id like that to be respected. ty

[helluva-dump]

Ngl, seeing critical blogs getting involved in the anti-proship discourse is disappointing as hell, considering that many of them act like they’re more “mature” than Vivziepop, her crew, and her fanbase, but they’re having panic attacks over stupid online labels and shipping discourse. Some are even claiming being transphobic is as “bad” as drawing problematic fictional art, and it's just I can’t deal with this.

I’m sorry, but if you act like this, then you’re on the same level of immaturity as Vivziepop, Spindlehorse, and the fanbase & can’t talk any shit.

For real, like the way they’re painting Raphielle as a terrible horrible sick individual kind of rubs me the wrong way… to me it seems like they only have kinks that may rub someone the wrong way.

Now my only issue with Viv having a pro shipper on their team is that they don’t seem to separate their kinks from their fetish and ship art from their professional work.😅 now I do understand r*Pe survivors (myself included) do draw things to help cope with their trauma. (I’m not sure if that’s the same case with Raphielle though, but I know people who enjoy n*nc*n use it to cope) however, not all r*Pe survivors cope the same way.

And I think that’s something they should keep in mind when they handle certain topics. It does come off a bit like fetishizing or romanticizing it on your canon writing. There needs to some separation form that since it can seem a bit unprofessional.

But at the end of the day, these are fictional characters that doesn’t even exist.

I’m sorry what??? Somehow liking problematic things in fiction when ships makes you on the same boat as a transphobe???? That’s very transphobic if you actually think that and a stupid analogy.

I do have some issues with pro shippers but antis really take the cake with death threats. I’ve seen how they treated an artist I followed on another fandom who drew inc*st ships. Now I myself do not like that but you know what I did? I ignored it and just kept my dislike to myself. Plus me and this artist had nice friendly talks over other things and it’s not fair to harrased them over fiction.

They bullied the shit out of her, gave her death threats, and accused her of being a p*do to where she couldn’t take it anymore and left the fandom after all the hate she got.

Dude like some of these antis dedicate their whole entire blog to shit on Viv and have this stupid moral savior complex.

Tbh like Viv, I’m also gonna work on an indie project in the future that I wanna make into a comic and cartoon, and I know damn well we may have this shipping discourse. But I also just rather people separate their non canon ship art and smut separate from our project to keep it professional.

I just hope Raphielle doesn’t face death threats over this shit

#not even tagging in the critical #because fuck #you guys are acting like pathetic #I’m not a viv bootlicker either #pro Shipping and anti discourse is a mess #txt post #rape mention

[universalsatan]

sometimes i forget how distinctly american my mother is, and how we are generally a product of our surroundings

#personal #just found out she’s pro-military!!! and she was accusing me of being anti-military because of watching x files. like girl i am 10 episodes #into this show. i have had these views for a Long time (VERY specifically about the us military). and im just like. damn. like yeah of COURS #it’s not plastered everywhere. ‘give me some peer reviewed articles’ i would but i just cant bring myself to get the energy to get stuck in #this exhausting npd abuse loop again (sounds exaggerated but im basically falling for exacerbating the situation. which is why it’s always #hit me the hardest i guess. because she Will just straight up either not mention it ever again or just simply deny it. and i’m not exactly #educated enough on the subject to remember specific points. my memory has been destroyed BECAUSE of this kinda shit and i cant recall decent #argument points anymore. not that i even particularly want to!!! read up on all this shit!!!! oh and even realizing that she was Definitely #seeing me as an Extreme. like girl what. i forgot that npd does that #reminds me of how. she’s very liberal. she was the one who got me out of the closet in the first place (bc i wouldnt do so myself) #and yet the other day. i swear she said something that was almost terf rhetoric #FUCK i HATE that my memory has already scrambled it. fuuuuuck and here i thought my memory was coming back #but it was something along the lines of implying that men Would try to get into women’s shelters etc in a skirt or smth and i #i just stopped talking i was so shocked #god. sorry didnt mean to vent lmao but im. hhh im just Tired yknow? #mandont